[04:22] <pitti> Good morning
[05:51] <didrocks> good morning
[05:52] <duflu> Morning didrocks
[05:54] <pitti> bonojur didrocks
[05:54] <pitti> hey duflu
[05:57] <duflu> pitti, morgen
[05:58] <didrocks> good evening duflu
[05:58] <didrocks> bonjour pitti :)
[05:58] <duflu> didrocks: Arguably still lunchtime :)
[06:00] <didrocks> ok, a little bit early, admitted :)
[07:14] <larsu> morning!
[07:17] <larsu> hm, quiet here
[07:22]  * pitti makes some noise
[07:22] <pitti> hey larsu, wie gehts?
[07:22] <larsu> pitti!
[07:22] <larsu> pitti, great! Just got the keys to my new place :)
[07:22] <larsu> and you?
[07:22]  * pitti s'en va, c'est l'heure de courier
[07:23] <pitti> larsu: alles gut, danke!
[07:23] <didrocks> hey larsu ;)
[07:23] <didrocks> pitti: courir
[07:23] <pitti> larsu: oh, you moved as well? seems to be the season :)
[07:23] <didrocks> pitti: courrier is the mail :)
[07:23] <larsu> morning didrocks! ça va?
[07:23] <pitti> didrocks: ah, un faux "e", merci :)
[07:23] <larsu> pitti, yep. You too?
[07:24] <pitti> didrocks: je vais commencer des lessons français bientôt :)
[07:24] <didrocks> larsu: ça va bien! How are you? Completely healthy and motivated for oyur move?
[07:24] <pitti> larsu: nah, I'm really happy where I am right now
[07:24] <didrocks> pitti: \o/ online?
[07:24]  * larsu is not online :(
[07:24] <pitti> didrocks: non, avec des vraies personnes, dans l'institut "inlingua" ici
[07:24] <larsu> internet in a couple of weeks or so
[07:24] <didrocks> seems both pitti and larsu are going to exercise now… but in different ways. One will be for the legs, the other, the arms (with optional legs if no lift and floor 3+) :)
[07:25] <didrocks> pitti: waow! courageux :)
[07:25] <pitti> didrocks: bien sûr j'aussi continue duolingo
[07:25] <didrocks> larsu: told you, do you have french ISP? :)
[07:25] <pitti> larsu: couple of weeks!
[07:26] <didrocks> the rule with ISP is "once it works, it's awesome, but first, you need to get it working…"
[07:26] <larsu> didrocks, no... there's no router thing in the basement yet. Cables still hanging from the wall :/
[07:26] <didrocks> oh, even worse then…
[07:26] <larsu> at least one of them is already connected to the apartment
[07:26] <pitti> didrocks: j'ai un rendez-vous jeudi soir là-bas, pour choisir quelle course je vais prendre
[07:26] <larsu> didrocks, totally
[07:27] <didrocks> pitti: super, c'est combien de leçons?
[07:27] <pitti> larsu: ah :) (because Telekom is really fast these days if the wiring is in place)
[07:27] <didrocks> larsu: so, the previous inhabitants didn't have any Internet?
[07:27] <pitti> didrocks: je crois 20
[07:27] <didrocks> pitti: une heure à chaque fois ?
[07:27] <larsu> pitti, yep, they were awesome. Called a couple of minutes before he arrived and was very nice
[07:27] <larsu> didrocks, they completely redid the whole place
[07:28] <pitti> didrocks: une 1.5 h leçon chaque semaine
[07:28] <larsu> new wiring and all
[07:28]  * pitti s'en va vraiment maintenant
[07:28] <didrocks> pitti: bon courage !
[07:28] <didrocks> larsu: bon courage !
[07:28] <larsu> thanks!
[07:29] <didrocks> didrocks: bon courage ! (to stay here and work alone :p)
[07:29] <larsu> haha
[07:29]  * larsu needs a table
[07:29] <didrocks> larsu: are you on 1st floor ?
[07:29] <larsu> didrocks, 3rd
[07:30] <didrocks> lift?
[07:30] <didrocks> (I never use the lift, but for moving in/out…)
[07:30] <larsu> but my stuff isn't coming until this afternoon
[07:30] <larsu> nope, no lift
[07:30] <larsu> wanna help carry?
[07:30] <didrocks> I wonder the time to arrive if you wouldn't have finished already
[07:30] <didrocks> and I know it will be great for desrt's health
[07:31] <larsu> yeah and I have 3 others in addition to desrt
[07:31] <didrocks> so, I don't want to be responsible for future health issue because he couldn't carry all boxes to the 3rd floor :)
[07:31] <larsu> (maybe 4)
[07:31] <larsu> hehe
[07:31] <didrocks> tell him I took care of his health (and greetings ;))
[07:34] <larsu> will do
[07:34] <larsu> (he's not here yet)
[07:35]  * larsu goes and finds a better place to work
[08:01] <Laney> hoi
[08:02] <didrocks> hey Laney! How was your long week-end?
[08:05] <Laney> hey didrocks
[08:05] <willcooke> Morning
[08:05] <Laney> good thanks!
[08:05] <Laney> swimming in the sea, fish and chips, beer, wine, games, food
[08:05] <larsu> hi Laney and willcooke! What's up?
[08:06] <larsu> Laney, nice!
[08:06] <Laney> \o o/
[08:06] <Laney> hey larsu
[08:06] <Laney> how's it going for you & didrocks & willcooke?
[08:06] <willcooke> is good
[08:07] <didrocks> hey willcooke!
[08:07] <larsu> Laney, got the keys to the new apartment. Moving stuff this afternoon
[08:07] <larsu> it's all great, but no internet
[08:07] <didrocks> larsu: good thanks, enjoyed swimming pool for the last days of summer
[08:07] <didrocks> now, it's raining, so not as good :)
[08:07] <larsu> didrocks, s/larsu/Laney
[08:07] <didrocks> argh ETOOMANYLA
[08:07] <didrocks> ;)
[08:07] <larsu> now someone called saying this other guy didn't do his job right
[08:07] <Laney> larsu: tethering time?
[08:07] <larsu> I have the feeling this internet thing will become a saga
[08:08] <larsu> Laney, yep. In a cafe right now because I don't even have a table yet :)
[08:08] <Laney> nice
[08:08] <Laney> are you with desrt?
[08:08] <Laney> how was the weekend thingy?
[08:09] <larsu> Laney, desrt arrives at 1 or so. Weekend was awesome. *Lots* of wine and going 20km on a draisine
[08:10]  * Laney looks up draisine
[08:10] <larsu> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisenbahn-Draisine
[08:10] <Laney> what on earth!
[08:10] <Laney> that looks fun
[08:10] <larsu> we had a couple of those: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisenbahn-Draisine#/media/File:Draisine-templin.jpg
[08:10] <larsu> Laney, it is! Was a bit too hot that day, but tons of fun
[08:12] <didrocks> Laney: as told yesterday, I guess this was the pre-warming for moving today :)
[08:12] <Laney> heh
[08:12] <willcooke> Sounds like Trevinho and hikiko are having fun :)
[08:12] <Laney> I've only seen those ones from american movies
[08:13] <Laney> larsu: I re-did that gdbus stuff on the train journeys btw and it works now
[08:13] <Laney> go figure :/
[08:13] <didrocks> willcooke: ah, links?
[08:13] <larsu> nice!
[08:13] <Laney> probably missed some unref or something
[08:13] <larsu> you just started from scratch?
[08:13] <Laney> yeah
[08:14] <Laney> you can look at the MP once I've renamed all the stuff if you want
[08:14] <Laney> or leave it for charles :P
[08:15] <larsu> sure I'll have a look
[08:15] <willcooke> didrocks, the rambling conversation in the telegram group
[08:15] <larsu> I'm not in that team anymore - let me know when the MR is up
[08:17] <Laney> will 'request review' from you
[08:18] <larsu> k
[08:19] <didrocks> willcooke: ah, I need to check sometimes there ;)
[08:22] <Laney> bahaha
[08:22] <Laney> listening to a radio documentary about bilingual people
[08:22] <Laney> they're interviewing a german person who is working on subtitling geordie shore
[08:23] <Laney> they played a clip (in english) and I could barely understand what they were saying
[08:23] <larsu> have we ever had problems with notify-osd leaking memory?
[08:23] <larsu> Laney, what's geordie shore?
[08:24] <Laney> i'm trying to find a youtube video
[08:25] <Laney> it's a version of an american show called jersey shore
[08:25] <larsu> ah, I've heard of that
[08:25] <larsu> some reality tv thing, right?
[08:25] <Laney> yeah
[08:26] <Laney> point was that even fully bilingual people find this one hard to comprehend
[08:26] <larsu> lol
[08:27] <Laney> HAHAHA
[08:28] <didrocks> Laney: in the past, we did, but I thought most of them were fixed once we "valgrinded" it
[08:28] <didrocks> argh
[08:28] <didrocks> larsu: ^
[08:28] <Laney> dude!
[08:28] <didrocks> once of you two have to change nickname :p
[08:28] <didrocks> weechat can't cope when both of you are speaking
[08:28] <Laney> you'd think we just did
[08:28] <Laney> not like we've both been around for years :P
[08:29] <didrocks> Laney: issue is when both of you are talking as weechat complete with the one who talked the most recently
[08:29] <didrocks> so La<tab>
[08:29] <didrocks> so, a good example: di<tab> -> one match!
[08:30] <Laney> i'm surprised that this is the first time that has been a problem though...
[08:30] <larsu> didrocks, fix your client :P
[08:30] <larsu> didrocks, I'm asking because I just found one ;)
[08:30] <Laney> use three characters to tab complete
[08:30] <Laney> or read what it offers you
[08:30] <Laney> :)
[08:30] <didrocks> Laney: reading? so outdated :p
[08:30] <larsu> Laney, xchat has this problem as well. It tab completes my own nick...
[08:31]  * larsu can't wait to get back  to irssi+screen
[08:31] <Laney> ya, poor you
[08:31] <Laney> what are you doing inside notify-osd?
[08:32] <Laney> are you fixing its hidpi stuff??? :) :) :)
[08:32] <larsu> Laney, yep
[08:32] <Laney> oh wow
[08:32] <larsu> it's a bit tricky
[08:32] <Laney> I tried to insert that into des_rt's head
[08:32] <didrocks> Laney: hence the "poor him" :)
[08:32] <Laney> but I think it fell out
[08:32] <larsu> but already I'm seeing nice and crisp notifications
[08:33] <didrocks> larsu: can you get back the red and green lines to ensure everything is alined? :)
[08:33] <larsu> didrocks, never heard of those nor seen them
[08:34] <didrocks> larsu: I guess you were not running the devel version at the time
[08:34] <larsu> maybe there's a way to turn it back on?
[08:34] <didrocks> basically, debug infos, that was only useful to the unique dev
[08:34]  * larsu will check
[08:34] <larsu> thanks for the hint
[08:34] <didrocks> but enabled to everyone "because"
[08:34] <didrocks> :)
[08:34] <larsu> lol
[08:34]  * didrocks tries to find pictures of it
[08:35] <didrocks> can't find it :/
[08:36] <larsu> vodafone is looking forward to the "personal contact" with me... weird
[08:37] <ogra_> cuddling with providers !
[08:37] <larsu> I'd prefer if they'd just answer my mail instead of sending such drivel
[08:37] <larsu> ogra_, I'd rather not :)
[08:37] <ogra_> who would !
[08:37] <ogra_> :)
[08:37] <larsu> indeed
[08:38] <larsu> I'd love if they would cuddle the end of that cable in my basement into whatever plug it needs to go :D
[08:39] <ogra_> haha
[08:46] <Trevinho> willcooke: yeah, Nice time. Also (hopefully) productive, BTW.
[08:46] <Trevinho> Then people here has this strange way to give you welcome by drinking up with you.... But well, they're the first who can't handle it :)
[08:47] <larsu> Trevinho, hi! Did you see my ping from yesterday?
[08:47] <Trevinho> larsu: oh, yeah... but then you wasn't there anymore
[08:48] <larsu> Trevinho, ya sorry. Will soon have irssi/screen setup again. Any comments?
[08:48] <Trevinho> larsu: so.... Well, so I noticed the side effect (opaque corners, right?)
[08:48] <larsu> yes
[08:49] <larsu> and I think if I make gtk set an argb visual, I don't get shadows anymore
[08:50] <Trevinho> larsu: you mean server shadows, right?
[08:51] <larsu> Trevinho, yes. We turned off client side shadows because we don't support frame extents
[08:51] <Trevinho> larsu: I think I got a way to recognize those windows, but I didn't enable since it wasn't needed with old-gtk, but I can test whether that is now the way
[08:51] <Trevinho> So, if you enable ARGB visual for us, then probably I can get server shadows again
[08:51] <larsu> Trevinho, please do :)
[08:52] <larsu> let me know when you have something so I can test it
[08:54] <Trevinho> larsu: that was the thing I had saved... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12244051/
[08:54] <Trevinho> larsu: I need to check whether that apply still...
[08:54] <Trevinho> ouch
[09:52] <xnox> Laney: where did the DPI slider go from unity system settings on vivid?
[09:52] <xnox> we have high internal, low external, and the external IS REALLY BIG
[09:53] <Laney> you mean the one in Displays?
[10:04] <pitti> tjaalton: wrt. our conversation the other day, new xorg-server and other bits are still blocked on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#xcb-util causing uninstallability
[10:04] <pitti> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt shows that it apparently makes $world uninstallable
[10:20] <xnox> pitti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1490918
[10:20] <xnox> pitti: or do i need to subscribe you, for you to see?
[10:20]  * xnox ponders Laney as well.
[10:21] <xnox> Laney: pitti: please let me know if you see it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1490918
[10:23] <pitti> xnox: I see it
[10:23] <pitti> xnox: (but I'm not ~u-desktop :) )
[10:23] <xnox> pitti: well, as ex-security and ex-desktop i think you would find it funny though ;-)
[10:23] <xnox> pitti: i wonder if it's counting the comments length.
[10:24] <pitti> xnox: yeah; not sure whether it really deserves to be called a security bug
[10:25] <xnox> pitti: i know that pgp keys generate different fingerprint based on key size, i am not sure about ssh, i.e. if one can clash checksum with different key sizes cause then there could be a spoof.
[10:26] <xnox> "yeah, this is my key on that server" when in fact it's a different one.... but yeah, i bet it is just a display/gui issue however.
[10:29] <Laney> xnox: I see it, but I think you should file upstream
[10:29] <xnox> well....
[10:30] <xnox> Laney: is it same in wily? /me is on vivid.
[10:30] <Laney> https://git.gnome.org/browse/seahorse/tree/ssh/seahorse-ssh-key-data.c#n35
[10:30] <Laney> yes
[10:30] <Laney> same
[10:37] <tjaalton> pitti: ah, ancell did that :)
[10:38] <Laney> tjaalton: looks like a transition
[10:41] <tjaalton> yes
[11:55] <tjaalton> so qt needs to be built against new xcb-util?
[11:55] <tjaalton> at least
[11:58] <Laney> whatever depends on libxcb-util0 (from memory)
[11:58] <Laney> will need to be rebuilt to pick up ...1 instead
[12:00] <tjaalton> there's a transitional package though, which was supposed to let it all work
[12:01] <Laney> for the dev package
[12:01] <Laney> for built stuff you need the rebuild to link against the new soname
[12:03] <tjaalton> indeed, so a transitional dev package is of little use :)
[12:03] <Laney> it means you don't have to change the source apart from adding a changelog entry
[12:04] <tjaalton> right, "little use"
[12:05] <Laney> haha
[12:05] <tjaalton> oh well, I'll rebuild those then
[12:05] <Laney> it depends on the size of the transition I guess
[12:05] <Laney> will you take those packaging changes into Debian so we don't diverge on the package names?
[12:05] <tjaalton> well, debian didn't like changing the dev package name..
[12:06] <tjaalton> so it's not uploaded there yet
[12:06] <Laney> ...
[12:06] <Laney> might want to undo this in ubuntu then
[12:06] <tjaalton> "I don't think we should change those package names, it's just a bunch of
[12:06] <tjaalton> work for no benefit IMO."
[12:07] <tjaalton> though now that the soname is bumped it's kinda confusing to keep the old soname in dev package
[12:09] <Laney> yeah
[12:09] <Laney> well, it's your stuff, I just advise doing it one way in D & U
[12:09] <tjaalton> *would be
[12:09] <tjaalton> yes
[12:35] <Laney> ooh
[12:35]  * Laney gets a-c_n on a patch
[12:35] <Laney> now I can try out my shiny new gnome git accoutn
[13:13] <tjaalton> shit, because of the xcb-util mess x-x-v-intel snapshot never made it to main before ffe
[13:13] <tjaalton> er, ff
[13:15] <tjaalton> I wouldn't mind lp nagging the uploader about packages that haven't migrated after a certain time
[13:15] <Laney> tjaalton: It's probably okay if it's uploaded
[13:15] <Laney> before FF, as long as it's not ages and ages
[13:16] <Laney> doko says he is doing rebuilds btw, you should coordinate with him if you are too
[13:16] <tjaalton> hmm ok
[13:45]  * Laney has done first git.gnome.org push
[13:46] <Laney> I slightly messed up using git bz
[13:46]  * Laney is now scared that continuous is going to kill me
[13:46] <Laney> s/me/him/
[14:24] <larsu> Trevinho, "ouch"? I guess it doesn't apply anymore?
[14:25] <larsu> Laney, congrats!
[14:26] <Trevinho> larsu: no sorry... I had a meeting next and then we've been taken to dinner, so I had no time to check... I'll do once back to our continent.
[14:26] <larsu> Trevinho, yeah it's not the most important thing, but I'd like to get it done this cycle
[14:26] <larsu> Trevinho, thanks and enjoy ;)
[14:27] <Trevinho> ;-)
[15:06]  * Sweet5hark takes a deep breath.
[15:06]  * Sweet5hark buckles up.
[15:06]  * Sweet5hark braces for impact.
[15:07] <Sweet5hark> seb128: please consider to upload  http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/wily/5.0.1/libreoffice_5.0.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes to wily
[15:07] <Sweet5hark> oh, no seb128. :(
[15:10]  * Sweet5hark hides, camps in a corner and patiently waits for a sponsor to show up ...
[15:11] <Sweet5hark> didrocks: didnt you sponsor LibreOffice once? Wasnt that just _awesome_? It was. Im sure.
[15:16]  * didrocks feels a trap
[15:16] <didrocks> especially when reading backlog
[15:16] <Sweet5hark> .oO(luckily we will have a meeting in 15 minutes, they cannot hide then)
[15:16] <didrocks> not sure what I should tell
[15:16] <didrocks> I remember to have maintained OpenOffice.org
[15:16] <didrocks> remembered*
[15:16] <didrocks> that wasn't so nice, even for this 6 months until you come :)
[15:17] <didrocks> I guess that libreoffice is a total other world of joy though!
[15:17] <didrocks> Sweet5hark: if you send me an email, I promise to have a look tomorrow morning :)
[15:17] <didrocks> before my eyes bleed
[15:18] <didrocks> and then, I'll be able to call it a day :p
[15:18] <Sweet5hark> hrhr
[15:20] <Sweet5hark> didrocks: awesome, thanks. Its not too urgent. Its just the first LibreOffice 5.0.x upload in wily. If anything fails, just blame me. ;)
[15:20] <didrocks> Sweet5hark: this is the usual procedure, right? ;)
[15:20] <didrocks> even for non libreoffice thingy
[15:22] <Sweet5hark> didrocks: oh yeah, feel free to blame me for whatever. As a bonus I then dont have to bother to apply for dpm rights on libreoffice anymore and can do other stuff!
[15:22]  * Sweet5hark hides.
[15:23] <didrocks> heh
[15:30] <willcooke> ding ding ding ding
[15:30]  * willcooke quickly reads scroll back
[15:30] <didrocks> dong?
[15:31] <ogra_> hells bells
[15:31] <willcooke> #startmeeting Weekly Desktop Team Meeting - 2015-09-01
[15:31] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep  1 15:31:22 2015 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[15:31] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[15:31] <willcooke> Somebody needs to do something about this relentless march of time.  September is here.
[15:31] <Laney> back to school
[15:32] <willcooke> Roll call:  andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski, didrocks, fjkong (travelling), happyaron(travelling), hikiko (travelling), laney, larsu, qengho, seb128 (hols), sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevino (travelling), robert_ancell (sick)
[15:32]  * Sweet5hark waves
[15:32] <didrocks> willcooke: and teachers are on strike, everything's back to normal :)
[15:33]  * Trevinho is watching you :-)
[15:33] <dgadomski> o/
[15:33] <desrt> o/
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[15:34] <willcooke> I'll give people a few mins and then we'll get started
[15:34] <larsu> thanks desrt
[15:34] <willcooke> I'm supposed to be in another meeting
[15:34] <willcooke> well, not true
[15:34] <Laney> hi desrt!!!!!
[15:34] <willcooke> I'm *supposed* to be here
[15:34] <larsu> willcooke is starting to get how this meeting works
[15:34] <larsu> s/this/the
[15:34] <Trevinho> There's NO other meeting
[15:35] <larsu> how could there be. The meeting's here.
[15:35] <willcooke> Trevinho, are you really here, or just passing through?
[15:35] <willcooke> ok, let's get started then
[15:35] <willcooke> If he's around.....
[15:36] <willcooke> #topic andyrock
[15:36] <andyrock> Last week was all about properly fixing cube on multimonitor. This is blocking the other work I m doing on compiz to fix some regressions we had with screen resizing.
[15:36] <Sweet5hark> willcooke: its ok, just have your other meeting. we will have fun with meetingology in the meantime.
[15:36] <Trevinho> Willcooke watching... Please write in my behalf :-)
[15:36] <andyrock> Basically it all for me
[15:36] <andyrock> Basically it all for me
[15:36] <andyrock> Compiz is just to messy
[15:36] <willcooke> Thanks andyrock, just seen your mail, sorry about that
[15:36] <willcooke> #topic attente
[15:36] <andyrock> Np!
[15:37] <willcooke> attente:  travelling to London and back.  EOW
[15:37] <willcooke> #topic desrt
[15:37] <attente> i'm here...
[15:37] <willcooke> #topic attente
[15:37] <attente> pocket desktop sprint last week
[15:37] <attente> worked on abstracting out popup menu placement in GTK down into GDK, still in progress
[15:37] <attente> investigated clipboard support in X, details are in the meeting notes
[15:38] <attente> currently investigating requirements for keyboard layouts in Mir
[15:38] <attente> (eof)
[15:38] <willcooke> thanks attente
[15:38] <willcooke> attente, was your trip home uneventful?
[15:38] <attente> willcooke: fortunately yes :)
[15:38] <willcooke> :)
[15:38] <willcooke> #topic desrt
[15:39] <desrt> at larsu's now, with very bad net connectivity (so his update may be missing)
[15:39] <desrt> hanging out in file monitor land trying to clean up the mess i made
[15:39] <desrt> eof.
[15:39] <willcooke> :)
[15:39] <willcooke> Thanks desrt
[15:39] <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
[15:39] <dgadomski> (un)fortunately the desktop seems still perfect - no new issues were reported to me this week
[15:39] <dgadomski> keep up the good work :) thanks
[15:39] <willcooke> \o/
[15:39] <willcooke> thanks dgadomski
[15:40] <willcooke> #topic didrocks
[15:40] <didrocks> Short week (swapping on Friday)
[15:40] <didrocks> Ubuntu Make:
[15:40] <didrocks> * Unity 3D editor experimental support. You can install it through: umake games unity3d. Only amd64 is currently supported upstream.
[15:40] <didrocks> * Fix Arduino download as upstream web pages changes. Support more release version format and ensure we don't raise an exception but only log an error.
[15:40] <didrocks> * Add license support to Android NDK.
[15:40] <didrocks> * Adapt and add large and medium tests for both Unity 3D and Android NDK.
[15:40] <didrocks> * Various enhancements to enable decompressing shell-embedded archives without copying entire files. Add corresponding tests.
[15:40] <didrocks> * Refactor Android license parsing to be reusable to future Android SDK support.
[15:40] <didrocks> * Fix a bug where if license was after the download links, we wouldn't find the license.
[15:40] <didrocks> * Better add_to_user_env API for contributors.
[15:40] <didrocks> * Minor cosmetic and small bug fixes.
[15:40] <didrocks> * Multiple contributors review. We again won a new contributor :)
[15:40] <didrocks> Ubuntu developer advocacy:
[15:40] <didrocks> * Get the example app running on phone (adding policies and various adjustement for it)
[15:40] <didrocks> * Add location support (with a way to test it on the desktop)
[15:40] <didrocks> * Add switch theme support
[15:40] <didrocks> * Cleanup for various workaround not needed due to SDK fixes or finding better workaround for some issues.
[15:40] <didrocks> * Checking qtcreator and ContentHub bug fixes related to the bug reports I opened.
[15:40] <didrocks> * Opening more bug reports on the SDK (discovered from last week, still some to open)
[15:40] <didrocks> * Discussing about Go and snappy rasperry pi 2 future dev experience evaluation.
[15:40] <didrocks> Misc:
[15:40] <didrocks> - printing stack MIR review
[15:40] <didrocks> - some sponsoring and NEWing (mostly for Mate)
[15:40] <didrocks> EOF
[15:40] <larsu> short week?
[15:40] <willcooke> awesome, thanks didrocks
[15:41] <desrt> didrocks: i don't think you're being sufficiently productive lately :(
[15:41] <desrt> larsu and i have been talking....
[15:41] <didrocks> desrt: yeah, will try to speed up :p
[15:41] <willcooke> y'all need to take a long hard look at yourselves compared to didrocks
[15:41] <willcooke> ;p
[15:41] <Sweet5hark> we need to clone didrocks
[15:41]  * larsu looks
[15:41] <larsu> meh
[15:41] <willcooke> haha
[15:41] <willcooke> #topic larsu
[15:41] <willcooke> erm
[15:41] <willcooke> #topic Laney
[15:42] <willcooke> stupid alphabet
[15:42] <Laney> we should shuffle the order each week
[15:42] <Laney> keep people on their toes
[15:42] <Laney> • Short week due to swap day and bank holiday!
[15:42] <Laney> • Worked on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1485659 - MP is up, reviews appreciated. Took ages to get the tests working.
[15:42] <Laney> • Visited London sprint, some chats about the X release (can't say “some chats about X” or else I'll end up working on something I dont want to...)
[15:42] <Laney> • Worked on e-d-s and evo 3.16.5, both uploaded to unstable, need to merge
[15:42] <Laney> • Did some release team work (FFe reviews)
[15:42] <Laney> • Pushed a bit more on xpathselect, got it migrated
[15:42] <Laney> • Thanks to larsu I got a GNOME git account and pushed my first patches :)
[15:42] <Laney> ☯
[15:42] <willcooke> thanks Laney
[15:42] <qengho> I love that damned package.
[15:43] <willcooke> #topic larsu
[15:43] <larsu> - finish gedit 3.16 update; refresh traditional menubar patch for 3.16 and master
[15:43] <larsu> (running it for a couple of days now - pretty nice!)
[15:43] <larsu> - style overlay buttons that are not in toolbars correctly (fixes eog buttons)
[15:44] <larsu> - work on hidpiifying notify-osd
[15:44] <larsu> which is 90% done
[15:44] <Laney> yesssssss
[15:44] <larsu> the last 10% is a bit tricky - trying to figure out *which* of the 5 million surface copies is still ×1
[15:44] <larsu> - some bugs
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[15:44] <willcooke> thanks larsu
[15:45] <willcooke> #topic qengho
[15:45] <qengho> * Translations pump fixes for Chromium.
[15:45] <qengho> * Looked into Cr ARM64 building at customer's request. Not soon.
[15:45] <qengho> * More work on chromium/ozome/mir. Hit dead-end. Taking different tack.
[15:45] <qengho> EOF
[15:45] <willcooke> thanks qengho
[15:45] <willcooke> lets chat about plan B in our 1:1
[15:45] <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark
[15:45] <Sweet5hark> - bumped LibreOffice ppa builds to 5.0.1
[15:45] <Sweet5hark> - bumped LibreOffice docviewer builds to 5.0.1
[15:45] <Sweet5hark> - fixed test-foo on docviewer builds
[15:45] <Sweet5hark> - LibreOffice docviewer build package on armhf is now down to 44.7MB
[15:45] <Sweet5hark> - started to query about getting libreoffice-style-elementary into upstream TDF (getting the attribution/licensing stuff right)
[15:45] <Sweet5hark> - LibreOffice conference preparations: talks, orga, meetings, agendas, hotel, travel
[15:45] <Sweet5hark> - various TDF/LibreOffice board work
[15:45] <Sweet5hark> - polished LibreOffice 5.0.1 ppa build to land in wily, didrocks "volunteered" (see backlog) to sponsor in seb128s absence:
[15:45] <Sweet5hark> -- http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/wily/5.0.1/libreoffice_5.0.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes
[15:45] <Sweet5hark> -- http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/wily/5.0.1/libreoffice-l10n_5.0.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes
[15:45] <Sweet5hark> EOF
[15:46] <willcooke> thanks Sweet5hark
[15:46] <Sweet5hark> (seeing didrocks weekly report though, anyone else volunteering to sponsor is welcome)
[15:46] <willcooke> doc viewer makes apps team happy
[15:47] <willcooke> #topic TheMuso
[15:47] <willcooke> * Continued accessibility profile blog post drafting.
[15:47] <willcooke> * More work on Orca gsettings backend implementation.
[15:47] <willcooke> * Patched Orca so that it doesn't show up in the unity dash search, it should only be enabled from universal access.
[15:47] <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
[15:49] <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Released and packaged 1.0.74 with several bug fixes in cups-browsed, including a crasher.
[15:49] <tkamppeter> - libtrio: Uploaded fixed version built with "-lm"
[15:49] <tkamppeter> - hplip: Provide Fax PPD files .gz-compressed so that hp-setup finds them.
[15:49] <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
[15:49] <willcooke> thanks tkamppeter
[15:50] <willcooke> tkamppeter, I will follow up with you re: printing from the phone asap - just need to clear my plate a little bit first.  But everyone on the phone side wants to see it working
[15:50] <willcooke> it'll be great to finally get it in there, complete with dialogues :)
[15:51] <tkamppeter> Great, it was already waiting for so long time.
[15:51] <didrocks> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-maverick-common-printing-dialog
[15:52] <larsu> yes!
[15:52] <willcooke> :D
[15:52] <didrocks> (2006-05-29)
[15:52] <Laney> /!\ troll /!\
[15:52] <didrocks> very long time :)
[15:52] <tkamppeter> didrocks, I was not meaning that but the "Printing with mobile in mind" blueprint.
[15:52] <willcooke> :D
[15:53] <didrocks> but you will have your unified printing dialog, so win with convergence \o/
[15:53] <willcooke> #topic any other business
[15:54] <willcooke> The marketing team want to start on the plan for 15.10
[15:54] <willcooke> So I will be asking you each to point me at a list of things which I can distil down in to high level marketing style items
[15:55] <willcooke> I'll follow up on email
[15:56] <willcooke> Oh, and also:  I'm going for Ubuntu membership on Thursday night
[15:56] <qengho> Woot!
[15:56] <didrocks> good luck! :)
[15:56] <willcooke> If you feel like writing a testimonial:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WillCooke
[15:57] <willcooke> any other bidnezz?  Going in 1 min....
[15:58] <willcooke> #endmeeting
[15:58] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Sep  1 15:58:42 2015 UTC.
[15:58] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-09-01-15.31.moin.txt
[15:58] <willcooke> thanks all
[15:58] <didrocks> thanks!
[15:59] <Sweet5hark> thanks
[16:03] <Trevinho> larsu: ah cool to read about notify osd, I actually had on my list, so thanks... However are you using the unity (per monitor) scaling factor there?
[16:04] <larsu> Trevinho, no, I'm using what GtkWidget returns - that should always be correct, no?
[16:06] <Trevinho> Larsu well unfortunately no... As we might change it in gtk settings, and also it's a integer scaling value. However, I can also look at this later, since I wanted to refactor the way we save settings
[16:07] <Trevinho> (per eedid, not per output)
[16:07] <larsu> Trevinho, ya, please have a look once I'm done - the hard part is getting it to render right, not getting the correct scaling factor
[16:08] <larsu> that's only in one place in the patch
[16:08] <Laney> You want to make it depend on unity?
[16:08] <larsu> Trevinho does
[16:08] <Trevinho> Larsu yeah... I know that... I've been there. No worries.
[16:09] <Laney> that's the you
[16:09] <Trevinho> Laney: no the dependency is in another package that has the setting only
[16:09]  * larsu felt spoken to
[16:09] <Laney> but who sets it?
[16:10] <Trevinho> Unity Control center
[16:10] <larsu> "great"
[16:11] <Trevinho> And eventually something that reads data from monitor and figure it out the best value on first connection
[16:13] <Trevinho> Laney: Also, as you know... Settings might be optional. So if a key is not available we can just fallback oh the gtk widget value
[16:13] <Trevinho> So, no worries about this...
[16:14] <Laney> ya, it should be done like that
[16:16] <Trevinho> Nice... That was my plan.
[16:16] <Laney> but please don't block larsu's stuff on you fixing this
[16:16] <Laney> you can follow up with that change later
[16:16] <Trevinho> Not at all!
[16:16] <Trevinho> I will do it layer
[16:17] <Trevinho> Later
[16:17] <Laney> sweet
[16:21] <Trevinho> Ok. Bed time... Tomorrow Changsha tour (wich by the way has some impressive places. Time Square has probably half lights compared to their - unknown to the world - central square)
[16:25] <Laney> how hot is it?
[16:25] <Laney> when we were there it was like 40°
[16:58] <Laney> bye!
[17:10] <Trevinho> Laney: Oh.. It's about 30, but humid ad hell. And drinking hot green tea doesn't help much (although they support this) :-)
[17:10] <Trevinho> Ad - > as
[17:17] <willcooke> g'night all