[03:44] <daftykins> wow, never been asked what time was before
[05:00] <EriC^^> what a pun
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> hi EriC^^ :p
[05:03] <EriC^^> hi lotuspsychje
[05:04] <daftykins> criminals in our midst!
[05:04] <daftykins> D:
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> hi daftykins :p
[05:06] <daftykins> allo
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> nihao cfhowlett
[05:17] <cfhowlett> howdy y'all.  So: how large is your /ignore list?  I'm at 19
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> loool
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> 0 here i have ops for n00bs n trollz
[05:18] <cfhowlett> just comparing if I'm truly the impaitent, offensive @**hat I was recently described as.
[05:18] <OerHeks> yeah, lets merge the troll ip's
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> morning OerHeks
[05:19] <OerHeks> hi lotus
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> hmmm
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> do we have a flash alternative yet on ubuntu
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> or should we use chromium/chrome until new solution?
[05:56] <daftykins> yep pepperflash is it i think
[05:56] <OerHeks> there seems to be a pipelight multi ppa https://launchpad.net/~pipelight/+archive/ubuntu/stable with newer wine also
[05:56] <daftykins> i heard of wrappers to use pepper with firefox, but not much point
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> doenst pepper get hacked also?
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> ive tested chromium from terminal many times
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> and after some browsing youl see sandboxed warnings
[05:59] <daftykins> gets updated pretty quickly by Google
[06:00] <daftykins> fixed before adobe fix it :>
[06:00] <daftykins> though i still don't go for chrome as a browser personally
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> yeah ive got more trust on them then adobe for sure
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> mornin lordievader
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: so FF with much care then?
[06:01] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:01] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje
[06:02] <daftykins> just put flash onto 'always ask' before running lotuspsychje :)
[06:02] <daftykins> that should sort you out
[06:02] <daftykins> then you have to click items to run them
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> but when their malicious, most users will click them anyway
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> its not for me, but for all the ppl i install ubuntu for
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> i always install ubuntu-restricted-extras and if one day flash fails..
[06:03] <daftykins> ah
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> just wondering for a good solution then
[06:03] <daftykins> i wouldn't allow the standard flash 11, so old
[06:04] <daftykins> it's a bit of a mess on Linux really right now :)
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> and a bigger mess on windows too
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> youtube should be better block flash and convert to html5 right away
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> to make users used to it
[06:06] <daftykins> no it's not worse on Windows
[06:07] <daftykins> i can continue using flash with firefox happily :P
[06:07] <daftykins> none of the drama that's gone on in Ubuntu land :)
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> i dont trust adobe, even if its up to date
[06:07] <daftykins> always comes up as HTML5 for me these days
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> you never know there are 0day xploits for flash
[06:08] <lordievader> There can be 0days for any piece of software...
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: true
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: but feels safer on ubuntu then windows for me
[06:08] <lordievader> Living in fear ain't useful.
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> im healthy paranoia
[06:09] <daftykins> ;]
[06:09] <daftykins> it's not safer at all if you're using the ol' v11 on firefox
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> in our country, mass ppl get phoned by 'microsoft' these days in english to ask them if they need help
[06:10] <daftykins> yeah i keep hearing the same
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> with a weird phone number
[06:10] <daftykins> not any locals yet, but folk in England
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> my father almost stepped into it lol
[06:11] <daftykins> doh!
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> i had to tell him, ive installed ubuntu on his pc years ago :p
[06:11] <daftykins> a friends gf at University called me up once and said she'd gotten taken over by some call
[06:11] <lordievader> Yayy, the ext3 driver will be removed :D
[06:11] <daftykins> the machine was Vista back when SP2 was out, but hers was still vanilla
[06:11] <daftykins> lordievader: in wily?
[06:12] <daftykins> or just in the kernel in general?
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> thats how those gangs get information social engeneering
[06:12] <lordievader> In 4.3: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=EXT3-File-System-Drop-4.3
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> ah tnx phoronix is also nice linux news source tnx lordievader
[06:12] <lordievader> Ext2,3 drivers have been obsolete for a while. The ext4 driver provides backwards compatability.
[06:12] <daftykins> 28,000 lines bye bye, nice
[06:13] <daftykins> yeah i think everyone in this channel knows that ;)
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:17] <daftykins> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/8/31/474
[06:17] <daftykins> looks like Linus isn't keen ;)
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> oh-oh :p
[06:19] <lordievader> Hehe, people... http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-34106482#sa-ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=PublicRSS20-sa
[06:20] <daftykins> i told OerHeks not to sign up but he insisted!
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> hahaha
[06:20]  * daftykins whistles
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> he prolly got 5 affairs already
[06:21] <OerHeks> yeah, all mint users
[06:21] <daftykins> :O
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> hmmm maybe thats why im so paranoia oO
[06:21] <daftykins> scandal!
[06:21] <lordievader> O.o
[06:22]  * lotuspsychje quicly removes scandal pics from Icloud
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> http://giphy.com/gifs/l41m1wh0lQN8ZbNTO
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> A huge congratulations to @veltunas for the #UbuntuGoesSciFi competition. You can enjoy the winning GIF entry here:
[06:26] <daftykins> poor Bones :(
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> isnt stoPPed with 2 p's lol?
[06:30] <daftykins> sure is
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> my phone stoped working :p
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> hmmm alot of ubuntu official wiki's get updated lately
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> thats nice!
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> custommed 5 days ago
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> would be interesting to find only the updated ones
[10:03] <daftykins> any of you folks run digitalocean VPSs?
[10:05] <lordievader> Nope.
[10:05] <lordievader> Their documentation is quite nice though.
[10:05] <daftykins> indeed!
[10:06] <daftykins> just funny getting a hash sum mismatch on their own PPAs just now
[10:26] <daftykins> hehe, i've got to ride my high end bike to the shop to get some brake pads, new seat post and maybe get a brake bled (hydraulic)
[10:26] <daftykins> it's gonna be such a ridiculous slog even along the flat from home here, since i've got my downhill tires on already
[10:26] <daftykins> :D
[10:29] <daftykins> hrmm this guy asking about DVD mounting, does blkid look at optical drives too?
[10:30] <EriC^^> i dont think so
[10:30] <EriC^^> lsblk should show it
[10:31] <daftykins> ah that's the one i've seen you guys use :) thanks!
[10:31] <daftykins> does it require sudo?
[10:32] <lordievader> Thought not.
[10:49] <EriC^^> np
[10:50] <daftykins> that guy PM'd me the whole output :(
[15:48] <daftykins> anyone recall off hand which kernel raring used? (13.04)
[15:48] <daftykins> maybe ubottu has it
[15:49] <daftykins> !info linux-generic raring
[15:49] <ubot5> 'raring' is not a valid distribution: kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-proposed
[15:49] <daftykins> our survey says no
[15:51] <lordievader> I guess it is mentioned in the release notes.
[15:52] <daftykins> sure is :> my guess of 3.8 was right \o/
[16:55] <daftykins> i've gotta clock out, if joyce seeks me out - they've got sleep resume issues, i was suggesting moving their trusty install to the vivid HWE from the utopic HWE but got into package hell
[16:57] <EriC^^> ok
[16:58] <daftykins> laters :)
[16:58] <EriC^^> later :)