[00:04] <Unit193> apt
[00:22] <knome> bedtimw
[00:22] <knome> nighty
[01:34] <bluesabre> Unit193: hah
[01:34] <bluesabre> Unit193: and yes, much prefer apt over yum
[01:35] <bluesabre> or whatever is in use now
[01:35] <Unit193> dnf
[01:35] <bluesabre> yeah
[01:35] <bluesabre> didn't like yum
[01:35] <bluesabre> really really dislike dnf
[01:36] <Unit193> Oh?
[01:36] <Unit193> Huh.
[01:36] <bluesabre> at least from my minimal usage and annoyance
[01:36] <bluesabre> or maybe its because you can use both currently, but using yum once messes dnf up
[01:36] <bluesabre> or did for me :)
[01:39]  * bluesabre is probably just a debian man
[01:39] <bluesabre> debianite
[01:47] <Unit193> 'Upload patched xfce4-panel with xfpanel-switch integration'?
[01:51] <bluesabre> button to launch xfpanel-switch
[01:52] <Unit193> Like a virus?
[01:52] <bluesabre> lol
[01:52] <bluesabre> more like a "we need more ways to launch a single related app"
[01:53] <bluesabre> ochosi is supposed to upstream that patch at some point
[01:53] <bluesabre> ochosi: nudge nudge
[01:57] <bluesabre> Unit193: the patched version is chilling in xubuntu-staging if you want to take a look
[02:46] <bluesabre> ochosi: hide the power-manager plugin charge label by default? https://code.launchpad.net/~bluesabre/xubuntu-default-settings/hide-xfpm-label/+merge/269701
[02:47] <bluesabre> https://i.imgur.com/zw1UGBz.png
[02:47] <bluesabre> for reference
[03:00] <bluesabre> ochosi: so for panel layouts, I'll add "GNOME 2", "Xfce", and "Redmond" to xfpanel-switch, and we can add "Xubuntu 12.04" and "Xubuntu 14.04" as ubuntu-specific patches
[03:17] <bluesabre> well, it would have been a faithful reproduction, https://i.imgur.com/ogfhoni.png
[03:18] <bluesabre> bed time, night all
[14:32] <knome> micahg, any idea when you'd be getting to your work items?
[14:32] <knome> micahg, or should we look for other people to look at some of the stuff, when there is still time before the freezes?
[14:33] <melodie> hello
[14:34] <melodie> when I want to install virtualbox-gues-x11 it refuses because it needs "xorg-video-abi15" and "xserver-xorg-core". When I install both at same time (using apt-get) it installs them, and it triggers a huge change, removing all xserver lts packages and replacing them with the non LTS versions. Question : is that the expected behavior? Or is it a bug?
[14:34] <flocculant> melodie: knome said can't be #xubuntu-devel ;)
[14:35] <flocculant> I'd try asking in #ubuntu-devel - if nothing else they might have a clue who to talk to 
[14:35] <flocculant> and hi knome 
[14:35] <knome> hello flocculant 
[14:35] <knome> melodie, well, this channel isn't for bug reporting either...
[14:35] <knome> melodie, it is a development channel for sure, but not a bug tracker
[14:37] <melodie> okok
[14:44] <knome> bluesabre, is #1482626 ready for a FFe request? or do you need to prepare it further?
[14:44] <knome> bug 1482626
[14:44] <knome> silly bot
[14:44] <knome> Unit193, would you mind helping upload gmb 1.1.15 to debian?
[14:45] <knome> Unit193, and/or xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin
[14:45] <knome> who's even doing that, it's WIP but assigned to -devel
[14:45] <flocculant> can we stop the bot being interested in qa trello - not sure it's needed now it's not used much
[14:47] <knome> also, bug 1388922 seems like a low-hanging one
[14:47] <knome> flocculant, i don't mind the messages either, though
[14:57] <melodie> knome flocculant where can I talk about the location of the icons on the desktop? Here, at #xubuntu or else? This is Xfce related
[15:57] <melodie> bye
[17:44] <knome> wb dkessel 
[18:23] <knome_web> oh bah
[18:23] <knome> oh... what?
[18:23] <flocculant> bah
[18:24] <knome> apache must have crashed here or sth
[18:24] <knome> i can't access the staging website where i was just working on stuff
[18:26] <flocculant> :(
[18:26] <knome> sigh
[18:26] <knome> ssh appears to work :D
[18:53] <Unit193> knome: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-multimedia/gmusicbrowser.git - http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-xfce/goodies/trunk/xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin/
[18:54] <knome> so what does those need?
[18:57] <Unit193> Corsac wanted to review then upload, and for gmb I pinged alessio.
[18:58] <knome> ok
[18:58] <knome> can you reping?
[18:59] <Unit193> Won't help Ubuntu at this point.
[20:41] <knome> where's krytarik when you need him?
[20:41] <knome> Unit193, it'll help us get them to debian.
[20:41] <knome> "xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin: Upload to Debian"
[20:42] <Unit193> Heh, I meant that, auto-sync is off.  Yeah, he's been missing for days.
[20:42] <Unit193> 17th.
[20:42] <knome> anyway, did you work with the pa-plugin too?
[20:43] <Unit193> Pushed that and xfdash to alioth/pkg-xfce, poked Corsac and he's at least looked at it a little.
[20:43] <knome> i just gave those works items for you :]
[20:44] <knome> not that you need to do any more for them than so far
[20:44] <knome> just to track who's doing what
[21:04] <ochosi> bluesabre: i don't mind hiding the label, but that patch only applies to xfpm>=1.5.x which we still don't ship, so i'm not sure it's totally necessary already
[21:05] <knome> ahhh, ochosi 
[21:05] <ochosi> hi knome 
[21:05] <ochosi> and everyone else
[21:05] <knome> ochosi, a few things
[21:05] <knome> ochosi, http://xstaging.lallinaho.fi/
[21:05] <ochosi> about to go to bed though, had a full first day at work and tomorrow will be a looong day
[21:06] <knome> ochosi, first, i'd probably move the blog there.
[21:06] <knome> ochosi, then, make the window narrow (<600px)
[21:06] <knome> there you see some quick access menu items
[21:06] <ochosi> nice
[21:06] <knome> the rest can still be accessed from the dropdown or the footer menu
[21:06] <knome> i'll likely change a few bits there, but that's the plan
[21:07] <ochosi> nice responsive design
[21:07] <ochosi> well done
[21:07] <knome> thanks again
[21:08] <ochosi> anything else you wanted to discuss? ("a few things..")
[21:08] <knome> that was it
[21:09] <knome> the blog item was the other thing
[21:14] <ochosi> oh ok
[21:14] <ochosi> that's good, i'm too tired for anything meaningful anyway...
[21:15] <knome> gee, thanks :P
[21:15] <ochosi> :)
[21:53] <bluesabre> ochosi: oh right... that appeared after adding the ppa
[21:53] <bluesabre> silly me