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alevalhello i lost network applet in the panel06:55
alevalcan somebody help+06:55
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artagI've just accepted a heap of updates to xubuntu 14.04 and now I'm getting a load of errors at startup. Network manager and others doing crash reports08:33
artagis there some new problem I need to be aware of ?08:33
artagindicator-sound-service is also constantly restarting08:34
auscompgeekartag: do an apt dist-upgrade, I guess. if you can, that is.13:36
melodiehi14:18
melodieI would need the help from xubuntu experts14:18
melodiefor a very very tiny little detail which makes me wonder14:18
melodieI am building a spin of Xubuntu for a non profit association who brings reformed computers to Mali. I have a script which is started at each new session which brings launchers (some desktop files) to the Desktop.14:19
melodiethe distro is installed in French. This is important to say, because in the Live, the Desktop has for default name "Desktop" and once installed the desktop has for name "Bureau"14:20
melodiewell in the Live all the icons are there, but not all at the places where they are supposed to be.14:20
melodieand once installed, the distro has them all at the right place14:20
melodieI have redone the spin several times with tiny changes in the script, and I get always the same result14:21
bazhangis there a question in there14:21
melodieso I would like to find out why. What am I missing?14:21
melodieoh and I found a bug in Xubuntu 14.04.3, not sure if it might not be in all Ubuntu editions though14:29
melodiewhen I want to install virtualbox-guest-x11 and virtualbox-guest-utils I can't because14:29
melodie"xorg-video-abi15" and "xserver-xorg-core" need to be installed14:30
knomeif you found a bug, then maybe you should file it14:30
melodiebut when I install them, it triggers a hell of a change14:30
melodieknome I know I know but I like to talk about my findings before filing, to make sure i file something which will actually be considered as such14:30
knomeif the issue is "installing/updating X wants to update other things as well", that's not a bug14:31
melodiebtw is there a devel chan for14:31
knomefor...?14:31
melodiethe issue is it removes all xserver-xorg-something-lts14:31
melodieand replaces it by the non lts versions14:31
melodiefor xubuntu14:31
knomecan't be #xubuntu-devel14:32
melodiethank you14:32
melodiewhat about the icons on the desktop, any idea what can make them change place from the moment we are in the live, to the moment we aren't in the live anymore?14:37
knomeprobably the fact that you are doing that with a script, not by changing the system files that creates/loads the desktop files in the first place14:38
melodieie: when we tick "register the session for the next connection", if I save the file where it writes, could it help me get the icons right at the same place in the live? or does it eventuelly depend on the place where the default icons (system, home, trash) are located?14:38
knomemaybe.14:40
melodiethe script copies the desktop files we need from within /usr/share/malinux/Desktop/ and the configuration of xfce4 from the /etc/skel/.config/xfce4|xfce4-session14:40
melodiethe goal of the association is having the user sessions restored after the kids in school have eventuelly messed the desktop. It needs to be restored fresh without knowledge from the teachers (only the launchers and their place, not destroy files they may have saved on the desktop either)14:43
melodieit's not a big deal if in the live they are not at the right place, as long as in the install it is, but I am curious to what makes it different.14:43
melodiethanks15:57
melodiebye15:57
xubuntu541hello everyone! i have a problem which i am trying to solve for last few days but even after going to forums and searching, entering codes only thing i am able to achieve is reinstallation of my linux distros17:12
xubuntu541my problem is that i am able to connect with internet but any ubuntu based distro is not able to see my wifi17:13
cfhowlettxubuntu541, skip the preamble, get to the issue?17:13
cfhowletttesting internet connection from live session or full installation??17:13
xubuntu541manjaro sees it and connects with it but right now i am not able to even see wifi connections using xubuntu17:13
xubuntu541both with live sessions as well as full installations17:14
cfhowlettxubuntu541, what is your wifi chipset (hopefully broadcom ...)17:14
xubuntu541i have fully installed xubuntu on acer extensa 722017:14
xubuntu541yes, its broadcom, BCM4311 (14e4:4311) (rev 02)17:15
cfhowlettxubuntu541, confirm that your system > settings > additional drivers picked up the broadcom driver?17:16
xubuntu541it didn't17:16
cfhowlettxubuntu541, so you have not got a configured, active wifi?17:17
cfhowlettvery different from "can't connect"17:17
xubuntu541last time i tried installing them was on linuxmint mate, it asked me to run dkpg config -a and i did17:17
cfhowlettnot - answering - the - question  ...17:18
xubuntu541after that had to reinstall because couldn't run any commands on terminal17:18
cfhowlettnot - answering - the - question  ...17:18
xubuntu541sorry, my mistake.  didn't understand the question17:19
cfhowlettyou said "can't connect".  I asked if your wifi is even active.17:19
xubuntu541i am not able to see the wifi connection. wifi at home is active17:19
cfhowlettxubuntu541, OK, I suspect you need to configure a couple of things in terminal.  easy to do but .... terminal>17:20
xubuntu541sure, terminal is open17:20
cfhowlettubuntu version #??17:21
xubuntu541latest, i just download it today and installed17:21
xubuntu541latest stable release17:22
xubuntu541xubuntu 14.0417:22
xubuntu541new to xubuntu as well as linux so takes a little time to find things17:22
cfhowlettxubuntu541, and you still have the ubuntu installation USB??17:22
xubuntu541yes17:23
xubuntu541not, ubuntu but xubuntu17:23
cfhowlettxubuntu541, lovely.   you'll like this.  plug in the USB and follow this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#STA_-_No_Internet_access17:23
cfhowlettof course, instead of "cdrom" you'll have to navigate to the usb, probably dev/media/ ...17:24
xubuntu541last time i did them and that is what led to system not working properly17:24
cfhowlettnothing in this command sequence should effect you system wide17:25
xubuntu541ok, i will reboot in usb and follow the command sequence and if any issues, wil come back17:26
xubuntu541thanks17:27
cfhowlettSSTOP!!!17:27
cfhowlettthat is absolutely NOT what the tutorial instructs you to do17:27
cfhowlettyou're using the ubuntu USB/CDROM as a source for the .debs to enable your installed ubuntu wifi.  if you want to TEST if this works, you can do so by booting the live session from the USB.  navigate to filesystem>device>media...17:28
xubuntu541sorry17:28
cfhowlettnot to worry, just confirming we're communicating clearly.  I've booted from USB and enabled wifi when I'm out and about testing computers at the store.  do-able and good test process.  takes about 90 seconds17:30
xubuntu541need to how to navigate to filesystem17:30
xubuntu541new to linux and commandline17:30
cfhowlettxubuntu541, easiest way?  go to the usb in filemanager and drag/drop the target address into the terminal17:31
xubuntu541navigated17:33
xubuntu541should i use these commands? sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source17:35
cfhowlettthere are 4 steps in that tutorial ...17:35
xubuntu541i know the chip id and pci-id and kernel driver in use17:36
xubuntu541but beyond that it becomes confusing for me.17:36
xubuntu541i installed bcmwl-kernel-source last time and it made using terminal impossible17:37
cfhowlettso you just skipped right over the 3 things you were supposed to install first?17:37
cfhowlettfor that matter: WHERE on the tutorial do you see " sudo apt-get"....17:38
cfhowlettI think you're looking at the wrong item17:38
cfhowlettTHIS >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#STA_-_No_Internet_access17:38
xubuntu541step 1 run 'lspci -vvnn | grep -A 9 Network '17:39
xubuntu541step 2 'usb-devices '????17:39
cfhowlettOK, I'm about to give up on you.  I've given you the EXACT link several times and you're off reading something else.  sorry, can't help17:40
xubuntu541i am supposed to follow STA - No Internet access?17:40
cfhowlettfor the 3rd time ... YES.  note: NOWHERE does it tell you lspci anything or apt-get intall anything.  whatever you are doing is NOT what I suggested17:41
xubuntu541sorry, i was starting from start of page as it seemed the most logical thing to do when you don't know anything.17:42
xubuntu541ok performing them now17:42
xubuntu541there is no '/pool/main/p/patch ' in my usb option17:48
cfhowlettxubuntu541, skip it.  old tutorials and certain capabilities were rolled into subsequent kernels17:49
xubuntu541ok17:49
xubuntu541ran all the commands terminal shows 'DKMS: install completed' but cursor is not back yet for a long time17:56
cfhowlettchillax.  takes time to build things17:56
cfhowlettbut not that long ...17:59
xubuntu541it still doesn't show anything18:00
cfhowlettctrl -x and retry the dpgk -i command.  verify you got it exactly right18:01
xubuntu541checked, i wrote commands perfectally. i tried ctrl -x but no cursor opens came. should i try it in new terminal18:06
cfhowlettxubuntu541, open a new tab and do ps -x | grep dpkg          see if that command shows anything useful18:07
xubuntu541it shows me to be in .../b/bcmwl$18:07
cfhowlett???   OK18:08
xubuntu541 9358 pts/4    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto dpkg18:08
cfhowlettkill -9 935818:09
cfhowlettthat WILL kill that dpkg command.  so you are now free to try again18:09
xubuntu541bash: kill: (9358) - No such process18:09
cfhowlettcoo.18:09
cfhowlettsudo dpkg -i bcmwl-kernel-source* | nc termbin.com 999918:10
cfhowlettTHAT will return a url of the command.  paste the url here18:10
xubuntu541dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process Use netcat.18:11
cfhowlettthen you didn't kill the previous dpkg18:12
cfhowlettps -x | grep dpkg18:12
xubuntu5419388 pts/4    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto dpkg18:13
xubuntu541~$ kill -9 9388 bash: kill: (9388) - No such process18:13
cfhowlettclose all terminals.18:13
cfhowlettreopen and do that command18:14
xubuntu541already closed and restarted the terminal18:14
cfhowlettsudo dpkg -i bcmwl-kernel-source*18:14
xubuntu541and then i am running these commands18:14
cfhowlettcommand(s)?  you only need to run the FINAL command now, right?18:14
cfhowlettstep 4.18:14
xubuntu541step 4 is 'sudo dpkg -i bcmwl-kernel-source*'. i ran it and after that it said dpkg installed. beyond that nothing happens. i don't get terminal back18:16
xubuntu541dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process18:16
cfhowlettyou ARE running on a single command at a time, right?18:17
xubuntu541i am getting this error now for running 'sudo dpkg -i bcmwl-kernel-source*'18:17
xubuntu541sure i am running one command at a time.18:17
Comstockdo you have any other terms open, running any other tasks?18:19
cfhowlettxubuntu541, ^^18:20
xubuntu541i can't kill this process and can't run any process which requires administrative privilages. i am pretty sure my pc will not shutdown as well(same thing which made me install xubuntu instead of linux mint mate)18:20
xubuntu541no nothing is running18:20
Comstockyou just said you have a process you can't kill18:20
cfhowlettxubuntu541, reboot.  come back and attempt the bcmwl-kernel-source* dpkg again18:20
Comstock^18:21
xubuntu541ok18:21
xubuntu541rebooting now18:21
Comstockthe old, turn it off and back on again fix18:21
cfhowlettI'm more concerned by the phantom proces18:22
Comstocktrue, i've never had one myself, threw me for a loop18:22
cfhowlettComstock, I fear he may have been running as root18:22
Comstockouch18:23
xubuntu337hello everyone once again! i rebooted using 'sudo shutdown -rf +0' it started to shutdown but didn't shutdown, so had to shut it down manually18:30
cfhowlettxubuntu337, let's consider that a separate issue18:30
xubuntu337ok18:31
xubuntu337what shall i do? run dpkg command again?18:31
cfhowlettxubuntu337, yep18:31
cfhowlettxubuntu337, to be clear, those 4 dpkg -i must be run in the listed sequence18:33
xubuntu337yes, no. 2 option doesn't exist so skipped it18:33
cfhowlettright18:33
xubuntu337reached DKMS: install completed stage. same as before till now18:36
cfhowlettxubuntu337, give it a couple more minutes.  MAYBE you just have a really slow system.  say ... 2 minutes?18:37
xubuntu337still waiting18:39
cfhowlettis your wifi indicate live now?18:40
xubuntu337wifi indicator on my system doesn't exist but on router yes. others are using wifi right now18:40
cfhowlettclick on the network indicator, select enable networking, enable wifi18:41
xubuntu337enable networking already selected. no option to enable wifi18:42
cfhowlettno option or greyed out??18:44
xubuntu337none18:45
cfhowlettTHAT is not normal.  Don't know what else to tell you.   sorry.18:46
xubuntu337just doesn't see wifi at all. on manjaro it not only saw wifi but also got connected with it. Also, tried to set it manually as per settings in manjaro but other than saving wifi connection can't do anything with it18:46
xubuntu337ok, anyways thanks for trying.18:46
xubuntu337maybe i install manjaro instead since can't fix shutting down problem or any other sudo command18:47
xubuntu43wHi, I am installing Xubuntu in an old computer. Do I have to partion the hard disk for root, swap and home or let Xubuntu do regular installation?19:27
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aakkohello20:33
aakko"show generic application names" setting of whisker menu doesn't work in 15.0420:34
aakkois there a way to get it working?20:34
knomeaakko, works for me20:38
aakkonvm. got it working20:40
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