[00:00] <Bashing-om> kadiro: Great. now your nick is "YOUR" mick .
[00:00] <kadiro> haha ;)
[00:02] <kadiro> that help my internet speed i thing the download from wget is up, before that is between 5ko/s and 18 and now he come on 40 and more
[00:05]  * kadiro I think i said something wrong now O_o :x
[00:13] <ubuntu331> hi guys
[00:13] <ubuntu331> i need help
[00:13] <ubuntu331> anyone turkish?
[00:13] <k1l_> !tr | ubuntu331
[00:14] <ubuntu331> yeah ubuntu-tr everybody offline
[00:14] <ubuntu331> i will put out my computer case from wişndow
[00:15] <ubuntu331> i have nvidia 9600 gt card
[00:15] <ubuntu331> in dual screen it is tearind
[00:15] <ubuntu331> tearing*
[00:15] <ubuntu331> not only video all things in computer
[00:16] <ubuntu331> i am working on it for 5 hours but no response
[00:17] <ubuntu331> anyone will help;?
[00:17] <ubuntu331> i am using nvidia-340
[00:17] <ubuntu331> i tried everything like rate,resolution etc.
[00:17] <ubuntu331> but in dual screen it is tearing
[00:18] <ubuntu331> one is led monitor one is led tv
[00:18] <bazhang> ubuntu331, dont use enter like that its impossible to read
[00:18] <TJ-> ubuntu331: check "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" to being with, in case there are clues. Also check "$HOME/.xsession-errors"
[00:18] <Bashing-om> ubuntu331: A conflict in drivers ? What does ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' show ?
[00:19] <ubuntu331> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12249664/
[00:20] <ubuntu331> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12249670/
[00:21] <ubuntu331> @Bashing-om :D
[00:22] <Bashing-om> ubuntu331: Looks like a conflict might be - nvidia-304-updates and nvidia-current-updates " installed. What is the exact card ID ' lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12 ' Let's verify what the driver should be .
[00:23] <RandomNames> Hello World!
[00:23] <ubuntu331> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12249688/
[00:24] <ubuntu331> sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia*
[00:24] <ubuntu331> and i will install 340
[00:25] <ubuntu331> but result is same :D :(
[00:25] <lordofcinder> are you trying to install nvidia  gpu drivers ubuntu331?
[00:26] <ubuntu331> i installed
[00:26] <kadiro> I heard the same problem on nvidia 304 especially on 15.04 and i think if i remember it's not supported
[00:26] <ubuntu331> but no result (sorry for enter using) :D
[00:26] <Bashing-om> ubuntu331: Confirmed that 340 is the correct version . What release are you running ?  In later releases are better tools to install a proprietary driver .
[00:26] <ubuntu331> i am using linux lite 2.6 and tried on ubuntu,linux mint
[00:27] <bazhang> what is linux lite ubuntu331
[00:27] <lordofcinder> i've done it on centos7, not sure how similar it would be on ubuntu/.deb ...
[00:27] <lordofcinder> but it worked great
[00:27] <ubuntu331> linux lite os ubuntu based distro
[00:27] <Bashing-om> ubuntu331: They are not official ubuntu . not supported here. All I know is ubuntu. I can offer no further guidance .
[00:28] <bazhang> try their support channel then ubuntu331
[00:28] <ubuntu331> ok i will use ubuntu but it will same
[00:28] <ubuntu331> i will be here tomorrow
[00:28] <ubuntu331> thnx anyway
[00:28] <ubuntu331> cya
[00:29] <Bashing-om> ubuntu331: Takes 30 minutes - with a fast internet connection - to install ubuntu . Install ubuntu and we can troubleshoot, as then we can know what we are doing .
[00:31] <guillermo> hi
[00:31] <userme> hi how do u defrag on linux
[00:33] <Jordan_U> !defrag | userme
[00:33] <bazhang> no need userme
[00:34] <userme> ok thank u dont i have to on linux unlike windows 7
[00:34] <RandomNames> nope
[00:35] <Jordan_U> userme: I don't know if that was a question, a statement, or something else. Please use complete english sentences with spelled out words and proper punctuation so that we can understand you.
[00:36] <userme> u on wind up jordan
[00:36] <bazhang> userme, take the chit chat elsewhere please, this is support only
[00:37] <userme> lol erm yeah
[00:37] <Mirodroid> there are defrag tools out there but by the time you need to defrag an EXT partition likely the drive is close to death anyways
[00:40] <kadiro> any one help me to boot puppy from ubuntu grub2 ?
[00:40] <bazhang> !grub2 | have a read kadiro
[00:41] <Mirodroid> kadiro, try #puppylinux
[00:41] <kadiro> bazhang: my question is not how to restore it but how to boot puppy linux from grub2 or how to detect it
[00:41] <kadiro> I tring this but no success : http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Grub2tut
[00:42] <RandomNames> Can someone recommend a well supported motherboard for running a linux box?
[00:42] <wydhry> Sorry for oot, but  which irc server to use that never ban user?
[00:43] <Mirodroid> wydhry, none... dont uise irc if you fear the banhammer
[00:43] <devslash> I have an Intel compute stick running Ubuntu 14.10 but the Wi-Fi so so damned slow. Can anyone recommend a usb based wifi adapter thats hopefully isnt too expensive
[00:43] <Jordan_U> wydhry: That is offtopic, so rather than apologizing please simply don't ask offtopic questions in #ubuntu.
[00:44] <Mirodroid> devslash, yes i can gimme a moment to pull it out
[00:44] <wydhry> Mirodroid - i dont mean channel ban, but server ban
[00:44] <kadiro> I'm banned from offtopic too so the answer is no channel is safe wydhry
[00:44] <Mirodroid> devslash, it is a TP-link bts that sales for about 9-14 us stinky dollars
[00:44] <wydhry> Not channel ban
[00:44] <devslash> Ok
[00:44] <wydhry> I dont have to join channel
[00:44] <Jordan_U> wydhry: Please stop the offtopic discussion unless you would like to be removed from this channel. This channel is for Ubuntu related support discussion *only*.
[00:45] <Mirodroid> devslash,  tplink tl-wn722n
[00:45] <Mirodroid> it works wonderfully on kubuntu 14.04 .2 LTS
[00:45] <devslash> Do you need to install drivers
[00:45] <Mirodroid> arm and X86_64
[00:46] <kadiro> yes true i have the same Tp-link it's not bad
[00:46] <Mirodroid> nope
[00:46] <Mirodroid> should be in the kernel
[00:46] <devslash> Great. Im sick of this wireless adapter
[00:46] <Mirodroid> also has a wonderful monitor mode
[00:46]  * kadiro my secrete ^^
[00:46] <devslash> This wifi adapter is a Bluetooth/wifi combo chip
[00:46] <Mirodroid> devslash, look at wikidevi and find something atheros based
[00:47] <Bashing-om> kadiro: You might find https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot much easier to implement .
[00:47] <devslash> Mirodroid does that mean you can do packet sniffing with it ?
[00:47] <kadiro> oh thank you Bashing-om always you help me
[00:47] <bazhang> lets take the hardware elsewhere please devslash
[00:47] <Mirodroid> shhh
[00:47] <Mirodroid> (yes)
[00:48] <bazhang> Mirodroid, you too
[00:49] <devslash> Bazhang my question is about wireless adapters for ubuntu
[00:49] <Bashing-om> kadiro: 5 commands @ the grub > propmt to boot an .iso .
[00:49] <bazhang> devslash, packet sniffing is not on topic here
[00:50] <RandomNames> What about packet sniffing in ubuntu?
[00:50] <Mirodroid> bazhang, are you an op here?
[00:50] <k1l_> RandomNames: its not in the focus of this channel
[00:50] <bazhang> time to return to ubuntu support
[00:51] <kadiro> ok Bashing-om i will try that, i extracted iso for puppy i will remove it and place it with the iso
[01:02] <RandomNames> So nobody knows a well supported motherboard (Intel 1155) I can use for a linux box?
[01:03] <kadiro> RandomNames: Try lubuntu to see
[01:05] <bazhang> RandomNames, try ##hardware
[01:05] <bazhang> !hcl | RandomNames
[01:07] <CAPITANOOO> acer aspire  no solution   unable to find medium containing live file system
[01:07] <RandomNames> Thanks ubottu, thats just what I was looking for.
[01:13] <Jordan_U> CAPITANOOO: Please use complete sentences and explain your exact situation.
[01:14] <CAPITANOOO> Jordan_U:  o heve acer aspire m1641 and get this error  unable to find medium containing live file system
[01:14] <CAPITANOOO> itried 3 differnt lts 14   and 12
[01:14] <CAPITANOOO> i tried usb install and dvd install
[01:14] <CAPITANOOO> and nomodeset  noapc  aal combination
[01:15] <jmadero> CAPITANOOO: unetbootin usb thumb drive
[01:15] <CAPITANOOO> tried 2 different usb stick   in2.0 slot
[01:16] <jmadero> CAPITANOOO: did you verify that your download is good?
[01:16] <jmadero> and how are you creating the USB's
[01:16] <jmadero> you can't just copy the ISO to it
[01:16] <CAPITANOOO> yep ever whit md5 check
[01:18] <CAPITANOOO> i created i 3 different unetbootin   Universal USB Installer
[01:18] <jmadero> bummer - sounds like you've got an issue
[01:18] <jmadero> did you google it ?
[01:18] <Jordan_U> CAPITANOOO: Have you tried the minimal install CD? Note that it requires you to be connected to the internet, preferably via ethernet, during installation and is a little more complex (and much uglier) than the normal Ubuntu installer.
[01:19] <OerHeks> Nvidia GF 7050, very old gpu of that aspire
[01:19] <OerHeks> Jordan_U +1
[01:19] <CAPITANOOO> i cant   connected to the internet, via ethernet,
[01:21] <CAPITANOOO> iv tried minimal Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (Precise Pangolin)
[01:21] <CAPITANOOO> it seems that pc stop reading evrithing
[01:22] <CAPITANOOO> at installatin start
[01:22] <jmadero> CAPITANOOO: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1967382
[01:22] <tmcapecodder> Can you run off a live cd at all?
[01:22] <jmadero> if that works next time I suggest a 2 second google search
[01:22] <alejandro> hola
[01:22] <jmadero> that is your model computer with the exact same error
[01:23] <alejandro> alguien tiene idea de como resolver una x roja que aparece en mi tarjeta de sonido al entrar en configuracion?
[01:23] <alejandro> antes no aparecia
[01:23] <CAPITANOOO> m bios dont have this option
[01:24] <OerHeks> !es | alejandro
[01:24] <jmadero> CAPITANOOO: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/543875
[01:24] <jmadero> CAPITANOOO: are you using a USB 3.0 flash? some say that 2.0 works when 3.0 fails
[01:25] <alejandro> gracias ubottu
[01:25] <alejandro> donde lo escribo?
[01:25] <CAPITANOOO> i tried 2 different stick b
[01:25] <jmadero> CAPITANOOO: that did not answer my question
[01:25] <jmadero> are they 3.0 or 2.0 USB thumbdrives
[01:25] <CAPITANOOO> i dont know
[01:25] <CAPITANOOO> but 1 its old probabli its 2
[01:26] <CAPITANOOO> how can know that
[01:26] <CAPITANOOO> if its 3 or
[01:26] <CAPITANOOO> 2
[01:28] <TJ-> CAPITANOOO: The problem isn't with the media; there is a BUG in the PC BIOS
[01:28] <CAPITANOOO> i tried upgrade the bios but get  id error
[01:29] <TJ-> CAPITANOOO: A BIOS upgrade isn't going to magically fix all bugs. On older hardware this used to be quite common.
[01:29] <CAPITANOOO> i tried whit this
[01:29] <CAPITANOOO> https://it.driverscollection.com/?H=Aspire%20M1641&By=ACER&SS=BIOS
[01:29] <CAPITANOOO> TJ-: so there is no solution
[01:30] <TJ-> CAPITANOOO: The problem is caused by the BIOS telling the boot-loader the wrong device ID for the device being booted from, so when the boot-loader tries to read additional files it cannot find anything because the device doesn't exist
[01:31] <CAPITANOOO> and there is no whay for sai at bios to search in right device
[01:31] <TJ-> CAPITANOOO: There is a possibility of a work-around for this; I wrote some code that is in syslinux/isolinux that allows you to tell the boot-loader to change the way it interprets what the BIOS tells it
[01:33] <CAPITANOOO> the edit whit —uuid
[01:33] <CAPITANOOO> i tried
[01:33] <TJ-> CAPITANOOO: It isn't guaranteed to fix all issues, but what you need to do is press and HOLD DOWN the Ctrl key from the point the system Power On Self Test messages appear until after the boot-loader has started.
[01:34] <CAPITANOOO> and what happen if press and HOLD DOWN the Ctrl key
[01:36] <TJ-> CAPITANOOO: If the BIOS is telling the boot-loader the incorrect device number, the boot-loader will try to guess the correct device instead
[01:37] <CAPITANOOO> whit  the Ctrl key press and HOLD DOWN
[01:38] <Bashing-om> ++
[01:38] <Bashing-om> +
[01:38] <Bashing-om> +
[01:39] <kadiro> O_o
[01:39] <Bashing-om> ^^ sorry ' bout that - cat learning to type .
[01:39] <Walkerdine> I cant get my screen to look right
[01:39] <kadiro> lol
[01:39] <Walkerdine> And as soon as I hit apply to these screen settings all the windows I have up are going to go away
[01:40] <Jordan_U> TJ-: The message that CAPITANOOO is seeing is from the initramfs, not from the bootloader.
[01:40] <fghost> *
[01:43] <CAPITANOOO> im desperate
[01:43] <TJ-> Jordan_U: Hmmm, yes, but that is related and often caused by the same underlying issue. The BIOS lies about which device was booted from and that gets propagated
[01:44] <jmadero> CAPITANOOO: are you making the live cd from the same computer as the one you're trying to install to?
[01:44] <CAPITANOOO> no
[01:45] <TJ-> I remember there's another workaround, but you have to do it in the busybox shell when it fails
[01:46] <CAPITANOOO> but maibe i can tri this
[01:46] <Jordan_U> TJ-: There is no device number information passed between the bootloader and the Ubuntu live initramfs, it just looks for the appropriate path on all devices.
[01:46] <CAPITANOOO> i can install aperistent ubuntu in an hd
[01:46] <ubuntu726> ok guys
[01:47] <ubuntu726> i use ubuntu now
[01:47] <CAPITANOOO> and after put the hd in the pc
[01:47] <ubuntu726> my problem is my nvidia 9600 gt card
[01:47] <jmadero> CAPITANOOO: my father in law had this issue too or something that sounds like the same
[01:47] <ubuntu726> i have led tv and led monitor
[01:47] <ubuntu726> when i wanna use 2 of them everthing slow abit
[01:48] <CAPITANOOO> jmadero: but maibe whit other hardware there is solution
[01:48] <ubuntu726> and it is bad for watching videos flash and vlc or something else
[01:48] <CAPITANOOO> whit my hardwere all tentative in the forum fail
[01:48] <TJ-> CAPITANOOO: the issue is related to these: bug #124260   and  bug #143958
[01:48] <ubuntu726> i am using nvidia-340 driver
[01:48] <jmadero> CAPITANOOO: why can't you connect it to an ethernet cord?
[01:49] <jmadero> that is the next obvious thing to try - the minimal install
[01:49] <CAPITANOOO> its in far room
[01:49] <ubuntu726> i tried it linux mint,linux lite os but in this channels friends say use ubuntu
[01:49] <ubuntu726> i use ubuntu now and problem not solved
[01:49] <jmadero> CAPITANOOO: well, move the computer
[01:50] <ubuntu726> say the commands and i will send you outputs you want
[01:50] <jmadero> if you're so desperate that seems like a minor inconvenience
[01:50] <jmadero> or buy a longer ethernet cord
[01:50] <Jordan_U> ubuntu726: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[01:50] <CAPITANOOO> jmadero: but install dosent  start
[01:51] <Jordan_U> ubuntu726: Specifically, please try to run it in whatever configuration is slow for you.
[01:51] <CAPITANOOO> after i chose  tri live or install
[01:51] <ubuntu726> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12250243/
[01:51] <CAPITANOOO> semms like evrithing stop
[01:51] <jmadero> CAPITANOOO: you'd be installing with a different iso - it's a minimal install
[01:52] <jmadero> and it can resolve some problems sometimes
[01:52] <CAPITANOOO> iv etried  4 different iso
[01:52] <jmadero> not the freaking minimal
[01:52] <CAPITANOOO> 2   14 4    14  3 lts
[01:52] <jmadero> nvm - good luck
[01:52] <CAPITANOOO> x86  and 66
[01:52] <CAPITANOOO> and 12 lts
[01:52] <jmadero> yes that ignores what I'm saying completely
[01:52] <jmadero> which you are good at doing and I don't have the patience for
[01:52] <jmadero> if you're so desperate see if there is a local computer guy who knows linux, pay him a bit to install it for you
[01:53] <jmadero> take care
[01:53] <CAPITANOOO> nobadi know here
[01:53] <jmadero> CAPITANOOO: you new to Linux?
[01:53] <CAPITANOOO> no
[01:53] <jmadero> it's largely about problem solving
[01:53] <ubuntu726> i am waiting Jordan
[01:53] <TJ-> CAPITANOOO: have you tried changing the boot-device order in the BIOS Setup?
[01:54] <CAPITANOOO> yep
[01:54] <Jordan_U> ubuntu726: Please pastebin the output of "cat /proc/cmdline".
[01:54] <jmadero> CAPITANOOO: out of curiosity have you tried a different distro?
[01:54] <CAPITANOOO> no
[01:54] <jmadero> ....why not?
[01:54] <jmadero> I mean at least then you narrow the issue down
[01:54] <CAPITANOOO> i want ubunt i used ever ubuntu
[01:54] <jmadero> well....clearly that's not working right now
[01:54] <jmadero> and it would be for diagnostic purposes
[01:55] <ubuntu726> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12250269/
[01:55] <CAPITANOOO> jmadero: okok and if other distro work    so
[01:55] <jmadero> see if Fedora or OpenSuse will boot up for you - if it does, you know it's something wonky with Ubuntu, if it doesn't, then you can eliminate distro as an issue
[01:55] <CAPITANOOO> the problem sta
[01:55] <CAPITANOOO> y
[01:55] <jmadero> at least then you know and have more info
[01:55] <Jordan_U> ubuntu726: That's nice, but please remember that we are all volunteers. We don't owe you an answer, and certainly not a timely one. Please be respectfull, and if you want support from someone whose job it is to give you a timely answer, there are many places that sell such services.
[01:55] <jmadero> again...you seem very new to Linux
[01:56] <CAPITANOOO> im not expert
[01:56] <jmadero> CAPITANOOO: diagnosing a problem requires guessing and checking
[01:56] <jmadero> which is both time consuming and frustrating ;)
[01:56] <CAPITANOOO> to solve problem m just user
[01:56] <TJ-> A common cause was missing udevd bits in the installer udeb dependencies, failing to correctly identify the boot device
[01:56] <jmadero> CAPITANOOO: try installing OpenSuse or Fedora with unetbootin on one of those thumb drives
[01:56] <ubuntu726> Jordan sorry but you understand me wrong :D when i said "i am waiting" i mean i am still here :D
[01:56] <Jordan_U> ubuntu726: OK, sorry for the miscommunication then.
[01:56] <ubuntu726> thnx for giving your time
[01:56] <Walkerdine> Jk turns out the screen I was trying to use was only 720p
[01:57] <jmadero> lol hate when you find that out :)
[01:58] <ubuntu726> if you wanna other outputs i can give immediatly :D
[01:59] <Vie> hi, zhe li you zhong guo ren me ?
[02:01] <keanne> what's with the squid package of ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS. i am getting "squid3 : Depends: squid3-common (= 3.3.8-1ubuntu6.2) but 3.3.8-1ubuntu6.3 is installed" when doing an apt-get upgrade
[02:01] <ubuntu726> Jordan_U i search the problem everywhere but no response :D If you will solved this problem i will sent you a gift :D
[02:08] <ubuntu726> :( i hate windows but i need dual screen with no tearing :D
[02:08] <TJ-> keanne: "apt-get update" to refresh the package lists
[02:09] <kadiro> re
[02:10] <keanne> TJ-: done that. apt-get -f install, apt-get autoclean, even manually removing /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[02:12] <TJ-> keanne: where did you get  3.3.8-1ubuntu6.3 from: "apt-cache policy squid3-common"
[02:12] <roy> ubuntu suppert
[02:13] <TJ-> keanne: according to package.ubuntu.com 6.3 comes from trusty-updates
[02:13] <roy> ubuntu suppert two screen , check synergys soft
[02:14] <keanne> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/7ZxngZdT
[02:15] <TJ-> keanne: now do the same check for 'squid3' ... they should be identical
[02:15] <keanne> TJ-: yes i see this now. how this became possible?
[02:15] <roy> I use 14.04.3 LTS  and install squid3 no problem
[02:17] <TJ-> keanne: you'd need to look through the apt history in /var/log/apt/ to figure that out :)
[02:17] <keanne> TJ-: this is for the squid only http://pastebin.com/fWEGbupY
[02:17] <keanne> squid3 i mean
[02:17] <TJ-> keanne: fixing it should be "sudo apt-get install squid3=3.3.8-1ubuntu6.3"
[02:18] <btorch> hi anyone know why during a kickstart the network needs to be reconfigured when the system has already booted over PXE and already has a DHCP ip assigned ?
[02:19] <btorch> the system basically looses the ip or it gets removed by the install
[02:19] <btorch> and then it fails to get another one and therfore the network configuration step fails :(
[02:20] <keanne> TJ-: thanks, ill that
[02:22] <keanne> TJ-: dpkg returned an error, looking for a squi3.pid, but what's there is squid.pid. fixed that, and apt-get installed installed the correct squid version. thanks!!!
[02:31] <Sachiru> Query: anyone have any good tutorial on how to move /var/log and /var/cache to another partition?
[02:37] <a_beautiful_mime> hello
[02:40] <a_beautiful_mime> everyone quits
[02:42] <nicomachus> hi, I've having issues installing vdrift due to unmet dependencies, but it lists them as uninstallable. http://paste.ubuntu.com/12250494/
[02:42] <nicomachus> s/uninstallable/not installable
[02:43] <nicomachus> install -f does not resolve anything.
[02:44] <TJ-> Sachiru: assuming you're moving /var/ to another file-system: prepare the partition and file-system, reboot in Recovery mode, go to root shell, "mount -o remount,rw /", "mkdir -p /mnt/var", "mount /dev/sdXY /mnt/var" "mv /var/* /mnt/var/", "umount /mnt/var", add an entry in "/etc/fstab" for /var that points to the UUID of the new file-system, reboot and test
[02:45] <TJ-> !info vdrift
[02:45] <TJ-> nicomachus: That package doesn't exist in the archive
[02:45] <Sachiru> TJ-, thanks for the info.
[02:45] <Sachiru> Hmm.
[02:46] <Sachiru> Looks like I have to adapt that since I'm planning to move /var/logs to a zfs dataset.
[02:46] <OerHeks> TJ-,  it is a getdeb package http://www.playdeb.net/app/VDrift
[02:46] <nicomachus> TJ-: OerHeks has it right. I have the deb.
[02:46] <OerHeks> so not so multi platform as they claim
[02:47] <TJ-> Sachiru: Yes, I have separate LVs for /var/ /var/cache/ /var/logs/ and /var/cache/apt/archives and some other
[02:47] <nicomachus> OerHeks: it's the most recommended racing sim for linux. :/
[02:47] <TJ-> nicomachus: check what "apt-get -f install" reports, that usually explains whats needed
[02:48] <nicomachus> TJ-: no output. 0 upgraded, 0 installed, yada
[02:50] <sad> hi
[02:51] <nicomachus> somewhat similar result for supertuxkart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12250537/
[02:51] <sad> i cant install clam av in my xubuntu 14.04.3. please help ?
[02:51] <OerHeks> nicomachus, after installing that deb package > sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install -y vdrift ( works fine here on vivid)
[02:52] <Sachiru> TJ-, I assume by LV you mean LVM/BTRFS "logical volumes"?
[02:52] <OerHeks> sad why not? what error do you get? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ClamAV
[02:52] <TJ-> Sachiru: Yes
[02:52] <Sachiru> Ah.
[02:53] <Sachiru> Sadly ZFS has weird ways of mounting things, but yeah, I'll have to do more research on this.
[02:53] <Sachiru> BTW, what happens if /var/logs and /var/cache cannot be found/mounted by the system on boot?
[02:53] <sad> i did but after all i dont see it on panel
[02:53] <Sachiru> I assume that it boots but logging and functions reliant on logging will fail?
[02:54] <OerHeks> sad, read that wiki, clamav does not come with a gui standard.
[02:54] <sad> wich wiki?
[02:56] <sad> i see, thanks oerheks!
[02:57] <nicomachus> OerHeks: I manually added the deb to sources.list and then installed, and it worked. odd.
[02:57] <TJ-> Sachiru: the mount-points are there on the rootfs will receive new files; anything that is expected to be pre-existing may well cause issues
[02:58] <fombunk> Hey friends, I just installed 15.04. On previous installs i had to remove the amazon scopes junk, do i still have to do that in 15.04?
[02:58] <Sachiru> Thanks for the info, TJ-
[03:00] <OerHeks> fombunk, see systemsettings > security/privacy
[03:00] <OerHeks> easy to disable though
[03:01] <fombunk> OerHeks: thanks, friend!
[03:02] <OerHeks> have fun!
[03:14] <btorch> is there a way to find out if there is an error on a kickstart .seed file  ?
[03:15] <btorch> this dman thing keeps on trying to configure the network via dhcp even though I told it not to in the seed
[03:30] <davido_> Is there a way to control the zoom-step distance that results from ctrl-shift-plus, and ctrl-minus in the Terminal application?
[03:39] <stangeland> how do i capture all streams from a command and send it to a file? LIke stderr, stdout and what else there might be ?
[03:42] <Bashing-om> stangeland: Something like : <command> > <path/file_name> 2>&1 .
[03:43] <TJ-> stangeland: If you want to pipe, then <command-1> |& <command-2>
[03:44] <davido_> Hm, if there was a response to my previous question, I apologize -- missed it.
[03:48] <dunkle> hi
[03:50] <tiftixd> hi
[03:54] <btorch> anyone here can help on kickstart 14.04 ?
[03:56] <xangua> !ask
[04:06] <kandinski> hi, can one turn off animations per screen? I ask because I have a DisplayLink second screen that hates any special effect
[04:14] <anton02> are these drinks any good https://i.4cdn.org/g/1441155327758.jpg
[04:21] <Faks> somebody there?
[04:21] <cfhowlett> Faks, ask your ubuntu question
[04:21] <Faks> It
[04:22] <Faks> It's not that kind of question, I'm just looking for a good irc client with good ui
[04:22] <Spec> irssi
[04:22] <cfhowlett> !irc | Faks
[04:23] <cfhowlett> errrrrrrrr, nope
[04:23] <WaffleMan> Can someone help me with this graphics driver issue im having, I recorded a video of what it does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZkhkoe4-Bo
[04:23] <Faks> irissi is a terminal based irc? thats intresting
[04:54] <vexati0n> question - since Ubuntu refuses to included modern versions of OpenConnect, I have compiled from source and installed that way. Now, how do I tell Ubuntu to install packages that depend on openconnect (like say network-manager-openconnect) without overwriting my manually installed program?
[05:01] <agent_white> Evenin'
[05:24] <agent_white> !ping
[05:27] <xren> বাঙ্গালী আছেন গা?
[05:28] <xren> quit
[06:13] <aldnavleech>  /msg nickserv drop __aldnav__ navarroclanz16
[06:44] <raspberry> hello
[06:47] <xrfang> hello, how can I suppress this kind of message:
[06:47] <xrfang> Broadcast message from systemd-journald@Desktop (Wed 2015-09-02 14:44:19 CST):
[06:47] <xrfang> I tried mesg n, but didn't work.
[06:59] <sandeep_> Hi
[07:02] <agent_white> Hello!
[07:05] <BuzzardBuzz> In /etc/systemd/journald.conf I have set ForwardToConsole=no
[07:06] <baizon> xrfang: <BuzzardBuzz> In /etc/systemd/journald.conf I have set ForwardToConsole=no
[07:12] <xrfang> baizon, thanks, but it is ForwardToWall=no, setting ForwardToConsole=no does not have any effect.
[07:17] <vijayb> Hi, can I upgrade from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS offline through using an 14.04LTS iso
[07:18] <baizon> vijayb: http://askubuntu.com/questions/474793/is-there-any-way-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-14-04-through-its-iso
[07:18] <vijayb> thank you baizon
[07:20] <baizon> xrfang: did you restart?
[07:24] <gshmu> `which scp` is `/usr/bin/scp` but using scp: `/bin/bash: scp: command not found`
[07:25] <amitprakash> Hi, how do I create users that can are jailed to a certain directory on ssh ?
[07:25] <yar|> gshmu, echo $PATH ?
[07:26] <gshmu> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/bin:/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/db/bin:/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin
[07:26] <gshmu> yar|: scp --help is ok too
[07:29] <Parlane> is old-releases down for a long time ro a short time ?
[07:29] <Parlane> is this a normal downtime ?
[07:30] <yar|> gshmu, my question was stupid, which searches using PATH.
[07:31] <gshmu> yar|: I change to an other server scp it's ,
[07:33] <yar|> ?
[07:33] <n93607> hi
[07:34] <gshmu> yar|: i have no idea...
[07:34] <gshmu> yar|: other server scp it's ok, ssh ok too
[07:36] <yar|> Did you tried to execute scp with -v option ?
[07:36] <yar|> gshmu,
[07:39] <gshmu> yar|: type ~ show: -bash: type: /tmp: not found
[07:40] <yar|> hmmm, do you have /tmp ?
[07:41] <yar|> (I don't really get that line)
[07:41] <gshmu> yar|: http://fpaste.org/262360/
[07:42] <gshmu> yar|: -v at paste, ~ mean /tmp ...
[07:45] <Parlane> is old-releases.ubuntu.com being dossed or something?
[07:48] <yar|> gshmu, I don't get the first and last or your 3 last messages.. anyway, stupid question : you have scp on the other side?
[07:48] <gshmu> no
[07:50] <Parlane> do-release_upgrade - everytime i try old-releases.ubuntu.com suddenly goes down >:(
[07:51] <gshmu> Parlane: do you say upgrade to me?
[07:51] <auronandace> Parlane: you'll need to contact whoever is in charge of that, it isn't part of official ubuntu support
[07:52] <Parlane> its up again, hopefully it gets far enough not to need old-releases domain soon...
[07:52] <Parlane> gshmu nope
[07:53] <gshmu> Parlane: I want but I can't
[07:55] <cart_man> Hey if someone can please help me with my question on the forum -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/668096/service-xxx-start-runs-in-background-only   That would be awesome !
[07:57] <gshmu> cart_man: nohup &>/dev/null & etc
[07:58] <cart_man> gshmu:  ok soo  "  nohup &> /home/tcomp/xxx/executable & etc   ?
[07:59] <gshmu> cart_man: google it
[08:02] <pragomer1> hi. ubuntu server 14.04 always loses nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf...  how can I fix this?
[08:05] <zaggynl> pragomer1: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/128223
[08:09] <lirikklim_> hello, everybody!
[08:10] <Seveas> hi!
[08:10] <Parlane> hi dr nick!
[08:11] <spott> hi guys
[08:11] <spott> i configured a ubuntu webserver to send mail trough gmail with sendmail a few ago
[08:12] <spott> but suddenly google decided that my webserver was not trusty enough
[08:12] <lirikklim_> what do you like most in ubuntu? I am newbie in linux and want to know it better
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> !manual | lirikklim
[08:12] <spott> so, do you know if my mail are somewhere on my webserver ?
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> lirikklim: this channel is used for ubuntu related questions mate
[08:13] <Seveas> spott: depends on how google decided you were not trustworthy. If it rejected the mail outright, it'll be gone and you'll have a bounce message somewhere.
[08:13] <spott> and do you know where that bounce message should be ?
[08:15] <pragomer1> zaggynl: perfect... thank you so much... such easy ;-)
[08:15] <zaggynl> no problem
[08:16] <zaggynl> pragomer1: don't be afraid to use a search engine, like duckduckgo.com
[08:16] <zaggynl> query I used: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+14.04+set+dns+server&ia=answer
[08:20] <balance> hi
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> balance: welcome, what can we do for you?
[08:21] <balance> I just noticed that ubuntu got this mac styled top bar - can I turn that off and integrate it into the programs window?
[08:21] <Nindustries> Hi, I don't get my workspaces to work. I am using desktop wall, and unity tweak tools reports 4x4 workspaces. But I cant switch. workspace manager shows just my two screens. Suggestions?
[08:22] <joekersh> mg /NickServ identify 21Raddl3
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> joekersh: better change your password now
[08:22] <joekersh> yep lol
[08:22] <joekersh> nightmare
[08:22] <Nindustries> lol
[08:23] <balance> or at least, can someone tell me how this top bar feature is called?
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> balance: gnome-panel?
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> balance: you cant get rid op gnome-panel in unity i think
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> balance: its possible to make that bar transparant though..
[08:25] <balance> lotuspsychje, I have no idea since I never ever used any linux dist with a gui. But I'll google these keywords.
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | balance
[08:26] <balance> lotuspsychje, ah, I just found the setting
[08:26] <balance> thanks
[08:29] <Nindustries> I also see no workspace thingy in my launcher
[08:34] <depp> hätte nicht gedacht, dass es heutzutage noch irc chats gibt bzw, dass noch welche diese benutzen^
[08:36] <zaggynl> IRC still lives depp :)
[08:36] <zaggynl> though I wonder what the average age of the IRC user is
[08:37] <compdoc> 12
[08:37] <zaggynl> heh
[08:41] <agent_white> !ask
[08:42] <agent_white> That was not aimed at anyone -- just checked ubottu's response.
[08:43] <Nindustries>  No workspace techies here? :/
[08:43] <berto_> hi im new to ubuntu and i want to install popcorntime and dont know how to as it is not in the software centre, any ideas?
[08:44] <Black_Horseman> meres
[08:47] <BaNzounet> Hey guys, when I installed ubuntu server, I didn't distribute the space correctly : https://gist.github.com/AlexGaspar/b2a3b5edafcccf542698 is there something that I can do to change that?
[08:48] <EriC^^> BaNzounet: type df -h
[08:50] <BaNzounet> I've updated the gist
[08:51] <EriC^^> how would you like it partitioned?
[08:52] <balance> hi, I'm confused wit hall these ubuntu gui stuff. I just want a gui which basically works like windows. A clean taskbar at the bottom, local window menu bar, control elements on the right, win-button to search programms. that's all. what should I install?
[08:53] <ImpactIndustries> balance: look at lubuntu
[08:53] <BaNzounet> EriC^^: I'd way 1T each
[08:53] <EriC^^> balance: xubuntu or lubuntu or ubuntu-mate
[08:53] <k1l_> balance: look at xubuntu or ubuntu mate
[08:53] <EriC^^> balance: lubuntu is more minimal
[08:53] <ImpactIndustries> i use lubuntu its very lightweight
[08:54] <ImpactIndustries> used Cinnamon before and it kept crashing
[08:55] <EriC^^> BaNzounet: i think it would be easier to just reinstall
[08:55] <balance> EriC^^, ImpactIndustries I don't want to change the whoel dist just because of a gui.
[08:56] <ImpactIndustries> you can install lubuntu on top of ubuntu
[08:56] <EriC^^> or use a live usb to resize the partitions
[08:56] <ImpactIndustries> or lxde on top of lubuntu
[08:56] <k1l_> balance: you can install the meta-packages. like "xubuntu-desktop" or the "mate-desktop"
[08:57] <EriC^^> k1l_: mate-desktop is mate? i thought it was just a library
[08:57] <balance> k1l_, what's the proper keyword for this so I can google an overview?
[08:58] <k1l_> EriC^^: balance ah yes, its mate-desktop-environment for mate desktop(since 14.10 in the official ubuntu repo)
[08:58] <ImpactIndustries> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[08:58] <ImpactIndustries> simple
[08:58] <ImpactIndustries> or sudo apt-get install lxde
[08:58] <k1l_> ImpactIndustries: lubuntu will not satisfy that user. he is more on the xubuntu or mate path
[08:59] <balance> I'll look at them, thanks k1l_ ImpactIndustries EriC^^
[08:59] <ImpactIndustries> To be honest i might switch over to Win10
[08:59] <ImpactIndustries> for my work PC
[08:59] <ImpactIndustries> blasphemy in here i know
[09:00] <k1l_> balance: if you install the named packages they will bring you all the needed packages as depencies so it makes sure you have all you need, like you did a new install
[09:02] <balance> ImpactIndustries, I don't like all the anti-privacy stuff in there, but at least, they have a decent gui :p  k1l_ thanks, Im currently installing and trying them
[09:03] <LonelyCoder_> Hello. I'm using PuTTY to connect to my ubuntu server, but I'm curious about remote ssh over the internet.
[09:03] <ImpactIndustries> balance, i know but you can configure most of that away i think
[09:03] <ImpactIndustries> LonelyCoder, why?
[09:03] <somsip> LonelyCoder_: that's more a statement than a question. What are you curious about?
[09:04] <balance> ImpactIndustries, oh, maybe.
[09:04] <LonelyCoder_> Basically, is there a way to connect to my ubuntu server at home from my school's internet. They aren't the same network.
[09:05] <ImpactIndustries> LonelyCoder_, Yeah, does your server have an internet facing IP?
[09:05] <LonelyCoder_> ImpactIndustries: Internet facing? It's got a public IP address.
[09:05] <k1l_> LonelyCoder_: does your home have a dynamic or static ip?
[09:05] <ImpactIndustries> a static one?
[09:05] <somsip> LonelyCoder_: through NAT or direct, dynamic or static?
[09:05] <ImpactIndustries> and your router allows ssh traffic through to the server?
[09:06] <ImpactIndustries> if so just punch the IP into putty
[09:06] <LonelyCoder_> I think I port forwarded the proper port
[09:06] <LonelyCoder_> 3389
[09:06] <LonelyCoder_> It's static
[09:06] <LonelyCoder_> I think, my ubuntu's IP Address has been the same for a while :P
[09:07] <ImpactIndustries> If youve correctly forwarded the traffic there shouldnt be a problem, have you tried?
[09:07] <ImpactIndustries> to connect from school
[09:07] <LonelyCoder_> ImpactIndustries: Not yet, I'm gonna try tomorrow.
[09:07] <berto_> hi guys im new to linux and could do with some help please
[09:07] <balance> hmm "E: Unable to locate package mate-desktop-environment" but according to their page, mate-desktop-environment is the right name.
[09:07] <ImpactIndustries> Yeah, should work
[09:08] <LonelyCoder_> ImpactIndustries: Thanks a lot man :D
[09:08] <LonelyCoder_> -UUU:**--F1  #ubuntu@freenode    Bot L315    [i] (ERC) ---------------------------------------------
[09:08] <LonelyCoder_> File to save in: ~/
[09:08] <ImpactIndustries> Let me know the IP if you want ill see if i get an ssh connection
[09:08] <EriC^^> balance: which ubuntu do you have?
[09:09] <k1l_> balance: "lsb_release -d" gives you what?
[09:09] <balance> EriC^^, 14.04.3 lts desktop (I installed it a few hours ago)
[09:10] <k1l_> balance: mate-desktop-enviroment is available since 14.10. so you cant install that from the official repo on 14.04. but there should be a PPA if you want
[09:10] <balance> k1l I'm back in a minute
[09:11] <berto_> I can do basic istalling from the software centre but dont know how to install other software
[09:11] <berto_> can anyone help please
[09:11] <ImpactIndustries> berto_, research apt-get
[09:12] <somsip> berto_: what other software re you trying to install?
[09:12] <ImpactIndustries> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[09:12] <berto_> popcorntime
[09:12] <balance> k1l_, what was the command u wanted me to check?
[09:12] <k1l_> balance: lsb_release -d
[09:12] <k1l_> but since you already said its 14.04 you will need a PPA for mate
[09:13] <somsip> berto_: you need to get help from the popcorntime people. Not supported here
[09:13] <k1l_> balance: see: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/08/install-mate-desktop-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[09:13] <balance> k1l_, thanks
[09:13] <berto_> somsip: cheers mate
[09:14] <ImpactIndustries> berto_, you have a pm
[09:14] <arku31> hi, may someone help me with preseed? "ubiquity ubiquity/success_command string" is not working for me, here is config https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e141c01380472033ae20
[09:15] <balance> another little question: If I install lamp on ubuntu desktop, is it conifgured the same as on ubuntu server? (the default settings)
[09:16] <32NAAA22M> @babine : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bh3GeG5CQAAvBg4.jpg
[09:16] <agent_white> balance: Yep!
[09:16] <ImpactIndustries> balance, get nginx its better :)
[09:17] <k1l_> balance: there is no difference between the packages on server or desktop version
[09:19] <balance> ImpactIndustries, maybe - but I won't host a web server myself, never ever. It only would get hacked haha :)
[09:22] <ImpactIndustries> balance, to be honest, the default server settings on anything are pretty secure
[09:22] <ImpactIndustries> its insecure applications installed on those servers and user error with permissions/firewalls and the like that opens up vulnerabilities
[09:23] <ImpactIndustries> default firewall and default apache/nginx setup you will be pretty rock solid
[09:23] <ostric> hello everyone, does anyone have experience with yandex  browser on ubuntu?
[09:24] <ImpactIndustries> balance, also unless youre high profile youre only going to get automated bots trying to get you anyway
[09:24] <ImpactIndustries> unless you piss somebody off
[09:24] <balance> ImpactIndustries, maybe - sure, but I'm probably to o"scared" to configure somethign wrong and not noticing it or whatever.
[09:25] <agent_white> Aye. Can be quite a few. I spun-up an instance on DigitalOcean, not at all configured in anyway, forgot about it for a few months, had 12,000+ login attempts.
[09:25] <ImpactIndustries> best way to learn :)
[09:25] <ImpactIndustries> yeah i get thousands a day, scanning normally for vulnerbailites in old versions of software
[09:25] <ImpactIndustries> just stay updated and youre all good
[09:26] <ImpactIndustries> its always the chinese
[09:26] <agent_white> Indeed.
[09:26] <ImpactIndustries> 90% of the time
[09:26] <agent_white> And go install fail2ban if you want to keep the repeaters from coming back.
[09:26] <ImpactIndustries> yeah love fail2ban
[09:26] <balance> ImpactIndustries, absolutely - but still, I wouldn't have the time anyway. but it would be a nice thing to do though.
[09:26] <ostric> ehm, sorry, does anyone have experience with yandex  browser on ubuntu?
[09:26] <agent_white> ImpactIndustries: The amount of folks who try to grab "/var/www/php*"... is ridiculous :P
[09:27] <ImpactIndustries> You can do cool stuff with your own local server, build your own homepage with all your favourites, a task manager and a calendar
[09:27] <agent_white> balance: There's not much to do. Disable password logins via SSH, and configure iptables appropriately.
[09:28] <ImpactIndustries> agent_white, hahaha yeah, i wonder if they ever get a hit
[09:28] <agent_white> Which is a start, and which will avoid majority of complications.
[09:28] <ImpactIndustries> a worthwhile hit
[09:28] <agent_white> I know right?!
[09:30] <balance_afk> ImpactIndustries, I only do simple hompages from time to time - I don't have time to manage my own server. anyway. But security is a very interesting topic though. lunc time now :)
[09:31] <ImpactIndustries> I think the VAST majority of breaches are targeted jobs/inside jobs/outdated software
[09:32] <ImpactIndustries> youre not going to get targeted, you have no inside men and your software will auto-update
[09:32] <BBLLCC> do you know marble?
[09:32] <ImpactIndustries> :)
[09:35] <marus> after updating chrome-stable on my ubuntu i can't open vsphere web client, can i downgrade google-chrome web browser?
[09:35] <bazhang> marus, gotten from where
[09:35] <Carpediembaby> Hello, I updated my 14.04 install last night and now unity fails to load. The login screen appears normal (with the top panel) but after login, I don't see it and neither do I see the launcher. No keyboard shortcuts work either. Any clues on how to fix it?
[09:36] <marus> bazhang: wht do you mean?
[09:36] <bazhang> marus, is chrome a google product
[09:36] <Carpediembaby> I already tried the first two solutions on this answer:http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears
[09:37] <marus> bazhang: google-chrome-stable is the package name
[09:37] <Carpediembaby> They don't work and it is exactly the same.
[09:37] <bazhang> !info google-chrome-stable
[09:37] <bazhang> marus, how is than an ubuntu issue, contact/dl from google
[09:39] <Carpediembaby> When I do "setsid unity" I get an error in tty: x10: fatal io error 11 (resource temporarily unavailable) on X ":0"
[09:39] <marus> bazhang: okay other question, how can  i open Vsphere web client in ubuntu
[09:40] <bazhang> what is vsphere marus gotten / installed from where
[09:40] <bazhang> !find vsphere
[09:40] <jpds> bazhang: It's the vmware stuff
[09:40] <marus> bazhang: thanks for you help..
[09:40] <jpds> Better off installing OpenStack
[09:40] <bazhang> jpds, so #vmware to halp?
[09:42] <marus> bazhang: here is there anwser for my formal question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/138284/how-to-downgrade-a-package-via-apt-get
[09:44] <ostric> ehm, sorry, does anyone have experience with yandex  browser on ubuntu?
[09:45] <Desu> ostric: 1. doesn't support gnu/linx
[09:45] <Desu> ostric: 2. is not open source, so don't use it
[09:46] <Desu> just use chromium instead
[09:46] <arku31> Desu, they have linux version but actually you're right :)
[09:46] <Desu> arku31: their homepage clearly states that linux is not supported
[09:46] <ostric> Desu, oh, I thought it supported and yes, had a linux version
[09:46] <Desu> "We're working on it
[09:46] <Desu> Unfortunately, the version for your operating system
[09:46] <Desu> is still not ready."
[09:47] <arku31> desu https://browser.yandex.ru/beta/?linux=1
[09:47] <ostric> but there are a few yandex packages in software center
[09:47] <Desu> taht is not a release though
[09:47] <ostric> though not browser
[09:47] <Desu> just a beta
[09:47] <Desu> anyway, just use chromium
[09:48] <ostric> (how much) is chromium controlled by google?
[09:48] <Desu> define controlled
[09:48] <AlexFan> hello
[09:48] <DalekSec> Less so than Chrome?
[09:48] <Desu> yandex uses the blink rendering engine too anyway so...
[09:48] <ostric> controlled as in 'android controlled by google'
[09:48] <Desu> and is based on chromium code
[09:49] <bazhang> ostric, thats getting waaaaay offtopic
[09:49] <Desu> but unlike chromium doesn't actually let you view the code
[09:49] <Desu> so you have no idea if they actually respect your privacy or not
[09:49] <bazhang> this is not the channel for chit chat
[09:50] <AlexFan> sorry
[09:50] <ostric> it is not chit chat. I cannot switch to ubuntu-offtopic just because the conversation about choosing a browser needs this kind of information
[09:50] <bazhang> ostric, yeah you can
[09:51] <ostric> ok, whatever..I am not here to be trolled..
[09:51] <AlexFan> i will come back if have any question
[09:56] <blelaj> your oversensitivity in stopping legitimate conversations slightly touching at google hints at that you must be one of those devs who love google's übercool (!) dick..am I right, bazhang?
[09:56] <ostrix> goodbye, my ass
[09:56] <balance> can't I integrate the top bar of unity into the sidebar and just align that taskbar on the bottom?
[10:05] <erdal> hi guys
[10:05] <erdal> anyone knows nvidia drivers and dual screen in ubuntu well
[10:05] <erdal> ;?
[10:07] <ImpactIndustries> erdal, nvidia drivers can be dicks
[10:07] <erdal> i have tearing in my computer in dual monitor
[10:07] <erdal> yeah
[10:07] <ImpactIndustries> but they have releases on their site for different cards
[10:08] <erdal> impact web site driver and ubuntu driver same
[10:08] <k1l_> ImpactIndustries: please watch your language. we want it family friendly in here.
[10:08] <erdal> 240.76
[10:08] <erdal> 340.76
[10:08] <erdal> :D
[10:08] <erdal> in one monitor no problem
[10:08] <k1l_> erdal: what card is it exactly? and what driver is installed? we can only support the ubuntu drivers. for issues with the nvidia website driver talk to nvidia
[10:09] <TJ-> erdal: Is it using an Optimus chipset?
[10:09] <erdal> but with the  second monitor led tv problem
[10:09] <erdal> no only one card i have
[10:09] <erdal> want me outputs
[10:09] <erdal> :D
[10:09] <k1l_> erdal: can you pastebinit the "lsb_release -a"?
[10:09] <TJ-> erdal: "pastebinit <( lspci -nn )"
[10:10] <erdal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12252154/
[10:11] <erdal> i have GeForce 9600 GT
[10:12] <erdal> last driver version is 204.76
[10:12] <erdal> 304.76 D:
[10:12] <erdal> 340.76 finally correct :D
[10:13] <TJ-> erdal: I have a system using the same driver, with an 8600 GT, LVDS + HDMI, no problems.
[10:14] <TJ-> erdal: Have you used nvidia-settings to check the vsync option is correct?
[10:14] <erdal> sync to v-blanck?
[10:15] <TJ-> erdal: "X Screen 0" > "X Server Xvideo Settings" > "Sync to this display"
[10:15] <erdal> image settings-high performance-allow flipping
[10:15] <TJ-> erdal: And those, yes, from "OpenGL Settings"
[10:16] <TJ-> erdal: How much dedicated memory does the GPU have, and what resolution are you operating the monitors at?
[10:16] <erdal> i can give you output
[10:16] <erdal> it is 1024 mb i think
[10:17] <Stranger> Hi to everyone
[10:17] <erdal> http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-9600-gt/specifications
[10:17] <Guest14163> Guys
[10:17] <Guest14163> Can anybode help me?
[10:18] <erdal> one monitor is led monitor 22"
[10:18] <erdal> and the other is the led tv 106 screen :D
[10:19] <erdal> i wanna watch th shows and films :D
[10:19] <erdal> but when i use 2 monitor system slow and tearing not only video
[10:19] <agent_white> !ask | Guest14163
[10:20] <erdal> TJ i will reboot and i will be here
[10:21] <TJ-> erdal: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" *may* contain some clues, as may "/var/log/kern.log"
[10:23] <k1l_> erdal: what is "lsb_release -a" and what is "uname -a"?
[10:23] <erdal> TJ i am here i have 2 screen but led tv shows only wallpaper :D
[10:25] <erdal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12252230/
[10:25] <erdal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12252239/
[10:26] <xxxxx_> hi
[10:26] <erdal> kll: sent them bro
[10:27] <balance> hi, I know have ubuntu installed with xubuntu desktop. I want to add win key => opens application menu but somehow I can't find the proper command. does someone know it?
[10:28] <SopaXT> For me, ifconfig wlan0 sets hardblock on rfkill
[10:28] <SopaXT> And I can't just rfkill unblock it
[10:28] <erdal> any output you want =?
[10:29] <SopaXT> It just leaves it hardblocked
[10:29] <SopaXT> Google solutions didn't help
[10:31] <TJ-> erdal: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" *may* contain some clues, as may "/var/log/kern.log"
[10:33] <erdal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12252291/
[10:34] <erdal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12252296/
[10:34] <manh> Hi, I get no sound output after starting jack server, anyone knows why is that?
[10:35] <TJ-> erdal: how about "xrandr -q" ?
[10:38] <erdal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12252325/
[10:39] <TJ-> SopaXT: that may be an ACPI issue; ensure the PC has the latest firmware/BIOS, and check "/var/log/syslog" for clues
[10:40] <TJ-> erdal: That xrandr output doesn't match the system that the Xorg.0.log came from
[10:41] <erdal> what i will do?
[10:41] <manh> hi, my ubuntu gets no sound after I start Jack server, does someone know the cause?
[10:41] <TJ-> erdal: I think the internal SUN AAA LCD panel is lying about the modes and frequencies it supports
[10:42] <erdal> use low resolution?
[10:42] <TJ-> erdal: what does this report? "grep DMI /var/log/dmesg"
[10:43] <erdal> [    0.000000] DMI: System manufacturer P5Q SE/P5Q SE, BIOS 1005    07/10/2009
[10:43] <guest-zp6ATb> sup
[10:44] <guest-zp6ATb> quit
[10:44] <balance> What's the difference between ubuntu + xubuntu-desktop and xubuntu? (xubuntu just as an example)
[10:45] <k1l_> balance: the desktop. xubuntu install and a xubuntu-desktop install afterwards are the same
[10:46] <TJ-> erdal: The video adapter is in the PCIe x16 slot on the motherboard?
[10:47] <balance> k1l_, so what does the term desktop include? if I use xubuntu desktop, I have to us arandr to have mutliple desktop whereas I don't need that when using unity.
[10:47] <erdal> no i have onlt 9600 gt and i have no see output from mainboard
[10:48] <erdal> 2 dvi output from 9600 gt one is normal one is hdmi
[10:48] <TJ-> erdal: What? I asked "is the video adapter in the PCIe x16 slot on the motherboard?"
[10:48] <baizon> balance: ubuntu + xubuntu-desktop, you will have both default apps and pkgs. With only xubuntu you dont have ubuntu stuff (for example unity packages)
[10:49] <erdal> PCIe x16 i dont know :D but it is on mainboard :D
[10:49] <erdal> externaly not onboard
[10:49] <TJ-> erdal: Well, it is very important to know. That motherboard has 3 PCIe slots; 2 are only x1. The video adapter should be in the x16 slot
[10:50] <balance> baizon okay thanks
[10:51] <TJ-> erdal: Look at the photo from Asus; the x16 slot is the BLUE one.  https://www.asus.com/media/global/products/BxdaHYTJECBvPJ3k/yN6UXtBkmWwlAxWF_500.jpg
[10:51] <erdal> 2 dvi and 1 little circle thing (i dont know its name ) :D
[10:51] <is_mw> hi guys.. I have a problem with my wlan.. i suddenly disappeared.. I have a parallel installation of windows but if I boot windows everything is working, so it doesn't seem to be a hardware problem. If I plug in a usb wlan stick that doen't work either. Here is my environment: http://pastebin.com/cP7gCYWF
[10:51] <is_mw> I have no idea why iwconfig doenst list my wlan adapter anymore
[10:52] <k1l_> balance: its about the gui. ubuntu uses unity. xubuntu uses xfce. that is the difference
[10:52] <baizon> is_mw: is your wifi adapter on?
[10:52] <erdal> it is on dark blue think :D
[10:52] <SopaXT> Urfkill disappeared from the bus
[10:52] <is_mw> baizon, yes it is
[10:52] <SopaXT> TJ-
[10:52] <TJ-> erdal: OK, make sure it is because if it is in one of the x1 short white slots, that would explain all your issues
[10:52] <baizon> is_mw: are you sure? what does dmesg say?
[10:53] <SopaXT> Bios is UTD
[10:53] <is_mw> another strange thing: rfkill doesn't list it
[10:53] <baizon> is_mw: maybe its blocked by modprobe
[10:53] <balance> k1l_, ok thanks
[10:53] <erdal> no it is on blue slot :D
[10:53] <is_mw> baizon how to figure out?
[10:53] <TJ-> is_mw: "01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43142" - I wonder if a kernel upgrade has not built the driver for that?
[10:53] <baizon> is_mw: run dmesg and check msg
[10:54] <SopaXT> Wifi is disabled by hardware switch
[10:54] <is_mw> no its definitely not
[10:54] <baizon> i pretty sure it is to be honest is_mw
[10:54] <TJ-> erdal: Good :)  What does this report: "nvidia-settings -tq PCIEMaxLinkWidth"
[10:55] <is_mw> before if it was turned off, the device was listed in rfkill with hard blocked: yes
[10:55] <is_mw> but now the device even doen't get listed
[10:55] <erdal> 16
[10:55] <erdal> 16
[10:56] <SopaXT> TJ-
[10:57] <TJ-> is_mw: I suspect there is no driver. Try "lspci -nnk -s 01:00.0"
[10:57] <is_mw> 01:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM43142 802.11b/g/n [14e4:4365] (rev 01)
[10:57] <is_mw> 	Subsystem: Dell Wireless 1704 802.11n + BT 4.0 [1028:0016]
[10:57] <TJ-> SopaXT: Right, so use the hardware switch on the PC to enable it and check what rfkill says
[10:57] <is_mw> TJ- see above
[10:58] <TJ-> is_mw: OK, so that explains - you should have a line "kernel driver in use: XXXXX"
[10:58] <TJ-> is_mw: So you need to re-install the Broadcom driver
[10:59] <TJ-> SopaXT: If the device 'disappears from the bus' that is almost always a hardware problem.
[10:59] <is_mw> TJ-, ok will try that..
[10:59] <SopaXT> TJ-, that is the problem!  On my TP E330 there is no switch!
[10:59] <is_mw> TJ-, thank you
[10:59] <SopaXT> The keyboard only toggles softblock
[10:59] <TJ-> SopaXT: There will be a hot-key combination
[10:59] <SopaXT> -> it toggles softblock
[11:00] <TJ-> SopaXT: Right... and that is probably because of an ACPI bug in the PC firmware, becoming a common problem unfortunately
[11:01] <SopaXT> TJ-, that was after I upgraded the bios
[11:01] <SopaXT> On win8 with old bios, it was fine
[11:02] <TJ-> SopaXT: I thought as much :(   I'm getting annoyed with the poor ACPI implementations we're seeing especially with cheaper devices; they're aimed only at Windows and disable many features if that is not the OS that is running
[11:03] <SopaXT> The fun thing: the update also broke windows :D
[11:04] <TJ-> SopaXT: One possible solution is to extract the firmware's ACPI DSDT table, disassemble it, and look at the _OSI strings it matches, and try to figure out which string ?????? enables the full features. You can then add "acpi_osi=?????" to the kernel command-line
[11:05] <TJ-> SopaXT: And I bet it doesn't support downgrading the version
[11:05] <erdal> Tj i change the resolution both 1280x1024 still problem :D
[11:05] <is_mw> TJ-, got error while installing driver: http://pastebin.com/SDMVrZbY
[11:05] <TJ-> erdal: Without being able to see it in action I can't really help you further; We've checked all the obvious things and there are no log entries hinting at a problem.
[11:06] <erdal> can i use other drivers except nvidia and mesa
[11:06] <Tangurin> Hi! My server crash when I send a http request via ajax to my laravel application, I have no idea what's wrong can you please help me
[11:06] <TJ-> is_mw The problem: "Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed."
[11:06] <k1l_> erdal: imho, that card is not powerfull enough
[11:07] <erdal> in windows 7-8-10 no problem
[11:07] <TJ-> k1l_: It should be! I have an 8600GT with the same driver and it doesn't have any issues
[11:07] <lightair> hi! I configured FQDN to be server.lightair.com. Then I install iRedMail and on step "Enter first domain name" I enter lightair.com. After installation Web Mail is installed to URL: https://server.lightair.com . How do I make iRedMail install WebMail and all other services to URL https://lightair.com ?
[11:07] <erdal> but in ubuntu-linux mint-linux lite all same problem
[11:07] <TJ-> erdal: did you say the desktop 'tears' as well as when playing videos?
[11:08] <erdal> not absolute tears it is like little sudden stop
[11:09] <erdal> it is like limping man
[11:09] <is_mw> TJ-, how would I install it?
[11:10] <k1l_> erdal: that is called v-sync issue
[11:10] <TJ-> erdal: what does this report? "grep VDPAU /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[11:10] <TJ-> k1l_: the vsync settings are correct, we checked earlier
[11:10] <erdal> [    15.688] (II) NVIDIA(0): [DRI2]   VDPAU driver: nvidia
[11:10] <k1l_> erdal: any adapters involved?
[11:11] <erdal> i dont understand you k1l
[11:12] <erdal> i am turkish man and my english is not good :D
[11:12] <TJ-> erdal: For the video playback, I can imagine a problem if the video is not encoded with H.264 or MPEG1/2, since I think it is only those that are supported by VDPAU on that chipset. But if the desktop is having problems too that suggests the compositor is the issue. Have you customised the Compiz settings/plugins?
[11:12] <erdal> in ubuntu no
[11:14] <TJ-> erdal: I'm not sure what else to suggest then; We've checked the adapter is in the PCIe x16 slot, nvidia-settings confirms its using 16 PCIe lanes, the nvidia driver is correctly loaded, 2D acceleration and VDPAU are confirmed, there are no log errors.
[11:14] <TJ-> erdal: If you use only 1 monitor does the issue go away?
[11:14] <erdal> yeah go away
[11:14] <dzejms> how can i remap escape to capslock
[11:14] <dzejms> I'm ussing i3
[11:15] <balance> xubuntu
[11:16] <TJ-> k1l_: erdal's logs: Xorg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12252291/  xrandr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12252325/
[11:16] <SopaXT> TJ-, windows 2001-2012, linux
[11:17] <TJ-> SopaXT: OK, you've disassembled the DSDT I take it?
[11:18] <erdal> i will reboot machine
[11:18] <erdal> i will be here in 2 min
[11:19] <SopaXT> TJ-, yes
[11:21] <TJ-> SopaXT: Good :) This is where you employ intelligence than. Look at the OSI method where those strings occur. You should see a series of If...Else If clauses matching those strings, and probably doing a Store() operation to the same location of a different value for each
[11:22] <SopaXT> TJ-, it even has Linux, setting osi of which fixed the bug
[11:22] <TJ-> SopaXT: Look at those stored values. The value is a set of feature bits, and usually the value increases as more features are enabled. Typically I see "Windows 2012" having the largest value. What you do is identify the string that sets the largest value, and then use that string with acpi_osi= on the kernel command line
[11:22] <NetworkingPro> hey everyone, i have this huge issue... can you guys help?
[11:22] <TJ-> SopaXT: Is the Linux Store() value significantly different to the largest value?
[11:22] <SopaXT> TJ-, you mean the largest constant
[11:22] <TJ-> SopaXT: Yes
[11:23] <NetworkingPro> sudo make ./breakfast
[11:23] <NetworkingPro> breakfast: command not found
[11:23] <NetworkingPro> how can I resolve this?
[11:23] <NetworkingPro> :(
[11:23] <TJ-> SopaXT: The "Linux" setting is the default used by the kernel so that should be used by default, so it doesn't make sense if setting that on the command-line with acpi_osi= actually fixes the bug :s
[11:23] <SopaXT> TJ-, Windows 2012 sets the largest
[11:24] <SopaXT> But it also sets OSW8 = one
[11:24] <SopaXT> (Logic)
[11:24] <TJ-> SopaXT: Right ... since you have it disassembled can you pastebin that entire OSI Method() for me?
[11:25] <SopaXT> TJ-, hang on
[11:27] <TJ-> SopaXT: I have to do a kernel test with a reboot. I'll be back
[11:27] <SopaXT> Wait
[11:27]  * TJ- hits the brakes just in time
[11:27] <SopaXT> pastebin.com/jmcT7iSo
[11:28] <SopaXT> pastebin.com/jmcT7iSk **
[11:28] <SopaXT> TJ-, -
[11:29] <k1l_> NetworkingPro: are you trying to build a cyanogenmod or android?
[11:29] <protn> hey folks for some reason lubuntu 14.04 is yet to install chrome token signing
[11:29] <protn> http://pastebin.com/pEKwpPgg
[11:29] <protn> something to do with QT5
[11:29] <TJ-> SopaXT: yeah, you can see that Linux isn't getting the 0x0400 flag set, along with several others
[11:29] <protn> how can I fix it?
[11:29] <NetworkingPro> k1l_: nah, i was just being silly man.
[11:29] <k1l_> NetworkingPro: ok, please keep this channel clear for real support issues
[11:30] <SopaXT> TJ-, pm me please
[11:30] <protn> k1`any ideas?
[11:30] <undertasker> Hi. Does anybody know if there's an Ubuntu phone app for viewing offline maps, that can use the compass sensor?
[11:30] <protn> I have read someone recommends to run sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-utopic xserver-xorg-lts-utopic libqt5gui5 libgles1-mesa-lts-utopic libgles2-mesa-lts-utopic libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-utopic libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-utopic:i386 libglapi-mesa-lts-utopic:i386 libegl1-mesa-drivers-lts-utopic
[11:30] <protn> but I am not sure what it does
[11:30] <NetworkingPro> k1l_: I am curious how you derived CM or Android from that?
[11:30] <k1l_> undertasker: best ask in #ubuntu-touch
[11:30] <k1l_> NetworkingPro: see the building instructions for cm
[11:31] <TJ-> SopaXT: If acpi_osi=linux works for you, great. I'd have hoped "Windows 2009" or "Windows 2012" would work and enable a few more advanced features. You'd have to scan/read the rest of the DSDT to determine what is enabled though. Often it is advanced power management features (better battery life)
[11:31] <undertasker> thanks, didn't see that chan
[11:31] <k1l_> undertasker: no problem
[11:31] <SopaXT> TJ- the linux one works
[11:31] <NetworkingPro> k1l_: it mentions breakfast?  :|
[11:32] <TJ-> SopaXT: OK, well if you don't notice any other regressions go with it, but as I said earlier the kernel already passes "linux" as the OSI so I can't see how setting it manually is changing anything
[11:33] <TJ-> SopaXT: "dmesg | grep _OSI" will usually show what setting the kernel used
[11:33] <pragomer> hi. I want to use duckduckgo als startpage in Firefox.. but keep the Firefox setting "keep cookies until I close Firefox"... but language and settings of duckduckgo are stored in cookies.. how could I do that?
[11:34] <k1l_> pragomer: change the starter to load the webpage? or talk to the firefox guys if they know a better method
[11:35] <NetworkingPro> pragomer: set permissions on your duck duck go cookies to allow them to be read by firefox, but not deleted by firefox?
[11:36] <NetworkingPro> When firefox closes it would nuke all cookies except those.
[11:38] <SopaXT> TJ-, without any osi set, glitches start
[11:39] <TJ-> SopaXT: Very strange; anyhow, glad we found the solution. Buggy ACPI DSDT is becoming a major pain
[11:39] <SopaXT> TJ-, also, I had terrible backlight flicker
[11:40] <NetworkingPro> k1l_: is there still an ubuntu off topic chan somewhere?
[11:40] <erdal> kll_ TJ i tried compiz settings but v-syn problem has not gone :(
[11:40] <SopaXT> acpi_osi Linux and acpi_backlight vendor stop it
[11:40] <EriC^^> NetworkingPro: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:40] <allizom> pragomer: visit https://duckduckgo.com/settings edit to your liking and then use the Bookmarklet URL as your home page
[11:40] <SopaXT> But then the backlight control is broken, because it uses thinkpad_screen instead of intel_backlight
[11:41] <SopaXT> Shit.
[11:41] <pragomer> I made the settings.. but when restarting firefox they are gone allizom
[11:43] <allizom> pragomer: what is the exact url of your Firefox homepage? it should be something https://duckduckgo.com/?kp=-1&kz=-1&kn=1
[11:43] <pragomer> no its just   https://duckduckgo.com
[11:44] <allizom> then, after you edit your settings, you should set the Bookmarklet url as your home page. You can find it on the right in https://duckduckgo.com/settings
[11:47] <pragomer> ok... on https://duckduckgo.com/params   I found some parameters
[11:48] <pragomer> this as startpage works: https://duckduckgo.com/?kp=-1&kz=-1&kn=1&kl=de-de&kae=d
[11:48] <SopaXT> TJ-, PM
[11:48] <pragomer> also a dark theme is used ... but the kl=de-de   to have it in german does not work
[11:49] <Abe> hey pragomer deutscher? was geht ^^ ?
[11:49] <lightair> hi! I configured FQDN to be server.lightair.com. Then I install iRedMail and on step "Enter first domain name" I enter lightair.com. After installation Web Mail is installed to URL: https://server.lightair.com . How do I make iRedMail install WebMail and all other services to URL https://lightair.com ?
[11:51] <Voyage> Is there a GUI tool to do torture test and measure cpu/memory performance ?
[11:51] <pdc2> How to install an ubuntu program in a different partition(other than the root)?
[11:51] <allizom> pragomer: it is kad=de_DE for the language, kl is for region-specific results
[11:52] <pragomer> wow allizom.. perfect.. where did you find this information? because I did not on https://duckduckgo.com/params
[11:54] <allizom> I just selected German as language in the page I linked to and observed the URL. It's hidden, you have to click on bookmarklet to show it
[11:55] <pragomer> aaaaah... allizom.. you mean I have to HOVER over the url, right?
[11:57] <allizom> no, just open https://duckduckgo.com/settings, set language to german, show the bookmarket url and read its parameters
[11:57] <pragomer> now I really found in duckduck my favorite startpage... the only thing that is sub-optimal at the moment is, that I have to click in the search field.. as it is not focused automatically...
[11:57] <Bernzel> I need to install drivers for my Wacom pad I belive, the software can't find mine when plugged in. How do I install the drivers on linux?
[11:57] <Bernzel> "ubuntu"
[11:58] <_dreamer> I would like to install ubuntu along side my windows 7, however scince I am using a custom windows 7 loader the "automatic" part of the installation picks the wrong partition when im trying to install alongside. So I need to make custom partitions on the drive I want it to install to.
[12:00] <_dreamer> I have a hard time understanding the guides. How do I go about this? Do I only need to create a swap partition and then another partition with the size of my choice and the rest will be automatic, or do I need to defina how large root, home and so on partitions should be??=
[12:00] <k1l_> _dreamer: you can make the partitions before and just assign them in the installer to the needed ubuntu partitions
[12:00] <k1l_> !partitions | _dreamer
[12:01] <_dreamer> ubottu: how do I do this in windows?
[12:01] <auronandace> _dreamer: from windows you don't
[12:01] <auronandace> _dreamer: just boot a livecd with gparted on it
[12:02] <Voyage> Is there a GUI tool to do torture test and measure cpu/memory performance ?
[12:02] <_dreamer> and then what? will the install make swap space and everything else needed on its own?
[12:02] <_dreamer> auronandace: and then what? will the install make swap space and everything else needed on its own?
[12:03] <EriC^^> _dreamer: you can shrink the partition in windows, leaving unallocated space, and in the installer choose to install alongside windows, it'll create the root partition and swap partition by itself using that free space
[12:03] <EriC^^> _dreamer: or you can use the installer's Something else option to create the root partition and set the mountpoint as "/" and the swap partition as well and install
[12:04] <_dreamer> EriC^^: ok ill try that, it sounds like the least hassle
[12:04] <EriC^^> _dreamer: use windows to shrink the partition though as it's better, and also boot into windows a couple times so it picks up on the changes before installing ubuntu too
[12:04] <revolve> is anyone familiar with a buggy build of cman in 14.04?
[12:04] <pdc2> how do I install ubuntu programs in different partitons?
[12:04] <revolve> has been causing us great pain over the last couple of days
[12:04] <_dreamer> thanks for help, im gonna try again
[12:04] <_dreamer> :)
[12:05] <EriC^^> _dreamer: no problem :)
[12:05] <revolve> well not pain, frustration
[12:05] <auronandace> pdc2: essentially you don't
[12:05] <auronandace> !fhs | pdc2
[12:06] <pdc2> auronandace, I am running low on space in / folder, I need to install it in different partition
[12:06] <revolve> are you using lvm?
[12:07] <Voyage> Is there a GUI tool to do torture test and measure cpu/memory performance ?
[12:09] <ikonia>  /win 7
[12:09] <ikonia> ]oops
[12:10] <Abe> go away :D
[12:11] <cry5t41> any tool for create playlist (m3u) ?
[12:11] <ikonia> text editor ?
[12:11] <Abe> music playlist?
[12:11] <geirha> find, perhaps
[12:12] <Abe> cry5t41: music playlist ? ikonia any text editor you have on you system ??
[12:12] <geirha> find . ! -path $'*\n*' \( -iname "*.mp3" -o -iname "*.ogg" \) -print > playlist.m3u
[12:13] <cry5t41> tnx
[12:13] <ikonia> you can use any text editor, or find as shown above, a playlist is just a text file
[12:13] <cry5t41> yes I know I can use Vim but I'm little lazy :)
[12:13] <geirha> with one filename per line (hence why I filter out pathnames containing newlines with that find)
[12:14] <cry5t41> thank you all
[12:21] <pdc2> If I manually compile an ubuntu program with  --prefix=/opt/symlink-to-folder-on-another-partition, is it going to work?
[12:21] <ikonia> what ?
[12:22] <pdc2> I need to install an ubuntu program in another drive
[12:22] <pdc2> ikonia, *
[12:22] <TJ-> pdc2: Yes;
[12:22] <Bernzel> I can't make my wacom software recognize my tablet. Terminal shows that the system see's the tablet. I've installed the drivers and restarted.
[12:22] <ikonia> an ubuntu program?
[12:22] <ikonia> you should get any software from the ubuntu package manager
[12:22] <ikonia> which case you don't use configure
[12:22] <Squarism> Does anyone know what is up with unity-panel-ser? It constantly grovs uncontrolably.. leaking like a hand net
[12:22] <Squarism> ??
[12:22] <TJ-> pdc2: assuming you're editing the debian/rules Makefile to add --prefix to the configure entry, and reconfigure the package
[12:23] <jasperr> I have a new corporate notebook with Win 8.1 and secure boot...
[12:23] <jasperr> I had an external USB drive to boot for own purposes, which does not work
[12:23] <pdc2> ikonia, what if I'm running low on space in / folder and I need to install a bigger program in another partition, what am I going to do then
[12:23] <auronandace> pdc2: you need to free more space or add more space
[12:23] <ikonia> pdc2: adjust your partrition sizes
[12:23] <jasperr> is there a way to create UEFI linux on my old, legacy PC ?
[12:24] <ikonia> jasperr: no
[12:24] <jasperr> I dont want to mess with the corporate windows...
[12:24] <pdc2> TJ-, ok
[12:24] <jasperr> ikonia: so I need a secure boot enabled machine to re-install linux for UEFI?
[12:25] <ikonia> uefi is nothing to do with secure boot
[12:25] <pdc2> TJ-, it is not an ext4 partition though, it is NTFS
[12:25] <EriC^^> jasperr: what are you trying to do?
[12:25] <jasperr> well, in laptop BIOS they seem to be connected
[12:25] <jasperr> to boot from USB drive
[12:25] <jasperr> on my corporate laptop, without disabling secure boot there
[12:26] <jasperr> I have instructions for installing linux on this machine, with things I dont want to execute
[12:26] <TJ-> pdc2: You'd be better off simply creating an additional file-system and moving say /var/ out of the root file-system - that will usually free up a lot of space. I have a separate file-system for /usr/local/ which is where locally-built packages should generally install to, so you could install it into the root dir of that file-system using a chroot, and it will map into /usr/local/ directories correctly
[12:26] <jasperr> I would like to install UEFI linux on my old legacy desktop PC on the USB drive so I was able to boot it on my laptop
[12:27] <TJ-> pdc2: NTFS is no good; the *nix permissions won't map.
[12:27] <TJ-> jasperr: There is no such thing as "UEFI Linux" - UEFI is a system firmware alternative to BIOS
[12:27] <jasperr> I mean a linux installation that is UEFI compatible
[12:27] <TJ-> jasperr: Ubuntu can install in UEFI mode, or in Legacy BIOS mode, on a UEFI PC
[12:28] <pdc2> TJ-, thanks
[12:28] <jasperr> and can installation than be moved to another UEFI PC at least? (USB drive still)
[12:28] <TJ-> jasperr: Yes
[12:28] <jasperr> so I will check my desktop PC, if it was UEFI... and then
[12:29] <jasperr> if not, I will need to find a friend with a new enough computer...
[12:29] <TJ-> jasperr: There is one issue however; if you want the image to be portable AND bootable on different UEFI PCs, you'll need to copy /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi to /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI  - that is the UEFI 'simple media' default boot-loader path
[12:30] <EriC^^> jasperr: you need to let it have it's own efi partition on the usb so it can boot from it on any pc
[12:30] <jasperr> TJ-: thanks for the hint -- I would like to do exactly that
[12:30] <TJ-> jasperr: A permanent UEFI install adds an entry for the installed OS into the system firmware's boot menu on the motherboard. For removable media the firmware looks for the boot-loader in the EFI System Partition at /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI on a 64-bit system
[12:31] <jasperr> I dont want to hack with firmware boot menu on the target computer...
[12:31] <jasperr> if necessary I can play around with another computer more...
[12:32] <TJ-> jasperr: techically, that path is actually built from "/EFI/BOOT/BOOT${ARCHITECTURE}.EFI" but ARCHITECTURE usually is "x64"
[12:32] <EriC^^> jasperr: sometimes the pc has a boot menu you can access by pressing esc then boot options and you can select which efi file to boot
[12:32] <EriC^^> jasperr: which laptop do you have?
[12:32] <jasperr> Lenovo X1 Carbon
[12:32] <TJ-> jasperr: This is how DVD images are bootable on UEFI, using the Simple Media path
[12:33] <EriC^^> jasperr: try pressing esc as soon as you turn the pc on and see if you can get a boot menu
[12:33] <jasperr> I can get a boot menu...
[12:33] <jasperr> however I have no BIOS password as the computer is a corporate one
[12:34] <jasperr> so I cannot access some parts of the BIOS options (on the target computer)
[12:34] <EriC^^> jasperr: the boot menu says something like os manager and windows is there? and maybe boot from efi file at the bottom?
[12:34] <jasperr> I guess I am not allowed to enter the boot manager. Windows is there for sure
[12:34] <TJ-> jasperr: If secure boot is enabled, you'll need to use the grub-efi-amd64-signed package, not the standard grub-efi-amd64
[12:35] <EriC^^> ^ and need to copy shimx64.efi instead of grubx64.efi
[12:35] <jasperr> amd64?
[12:35] <TJ-> jasperr: The manual boot menu will usually allow you to choose a removable device to boot from, if one is found and has an EFI System Partition on it
[12:36] <jasperr> I have Intel processors on the target computer
[12:36] <jasperr> TJ-: I will try, thanks
[12:36] <TJ-> jasperr: Yes - 'amd64' are the 64-bit builds. AMD introduced 64-bit extensions to the x86 architecture
[12:36] <jasperr> TJ- is amd64 working for intel processors as well?
[12:37] <jasperr> or do I need this package if my source PC is amd64?
[12:37] <TJ-> jasperr: Originally Intel didn't want to do that an created the new incompatible IA64 Itanium 64-bit instruction set, but AMD's extensions won the market, so Intel had to follow their lead
[12:37] <TJ-> jasperr: So Intel 64 bit processors are amd64 compatible
[12:38] <jasperr> ok, I was not following the news then...
[12:38] <arku31> yeah, you are late for 5+ years;)
[12:38] <jasperr> I just have some crazy memories from several years ago..
[12:38] <jasperr> :)
[12:39] <Jordy_> Hi everyone - i'm looking for an opensource proxy tool to forward requests XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:8080 to XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:9090 etc. It must be possible to add my own ssl certificate to the end-point-route. Does anyone a tool where i'm looking for?
[12:40] <ikonia> squid ?
[12:40] <ikonia> membrane
[12:40] <ikonia> apache ?
[12:40] <TJ-> 5+ ... and the rest! 2003 it was
[12:41] <Jordy_> ikonia: Which one do you prefer? It must be easy and fast to setup? Thanks
[12:41] <arku31> emm right im too old :/
[12:41] <ikonia> all are easy, pick what you like
[12:42] <Jordy_> apache http webserver? I have no experience.
[12:44] <Matt_teni> Guys, I have an I3 processor and I'm not sure if I'm using integrated graphic card drive from Intel. Only Nvidia is in use. Do I need to get bumblebee? I really want to use Intel only because of much better hardware acceleration support
[12:45] <ikonia> the intel has better hardware acceleration support ???
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:56] <Meowcat285> hi
[13:01] <Bayangan> Ping
[13:03] <jonascj> Hi all. How come openjdk-7-jre-headless downloads at 40kB/s when I can download the ubuntu iso at 3mB/s ? In my /etc/apt/sources.list I have the "mirror" options at the top, like this instructs http://askubuntu.com/questions/37753/how-can-i-get-apt-to-use-a-mirror-close-to-me-or-choose-a-faster-mirror/37754#37754
[13:04] <pbx> i disconnected my external monitor while my laptop was suspended, now the internal won't respond to backlight controls (xbacklight says it's at 100% but it's not).  any ideas for fix short of a reboot?
[13:09] <erasmus> why does Linus hate Ubuntu?
[13:09] <erasmus> why are arch uses such nerds?
[13:09] <TomyWork> why are you such a troll?
[13:10] <erasmus> what is the point of having drives capable of holding so much data when it takes systems so long to fix them?
[13:10]  * anyoneuno lol
[13:10] <erasmus> I'm not trolling.
[13:10] <erasmus> just keeping it real
[13:10] <Matt_teni> ikonia, yeah from the sources and chats here
[13:10] <Matt_teni> intel hd graphics
[13:10] <TomyWork> you're asking loaded questions, erasmus. dont expect answers from smart people
[13:10] <Matt_teni> I just want to use it. dont know where to begin with
[13:10] <ikonia> nvidia has solid hardware acceleration support
[13:10] <erasmus> wtf
[13:10] <TomyWork> never mind :)
[13:11] <k1l_> !guidelines > erasmus
[13:11] <erasmus> I blocked it.
[13:11] <erasmus> say in channel please.
[13:11] <ikonia> !guidelines | erasmus
[13:11] <ikonia> erasmus: please read them before speaking again
[13:11] <k1l_> erasmus: make sure you read and follow the guidelines if you want to stay in here
[13:11] <erasmus> I'm on topic.
[13:12] <erasmus> sorry you don't like what I'm saying.
[13:12] <erasmus> since when is it bad to be called a nerd?
[13:12] <Pici> erasmus: This is a support channel.
[13:12] <pbx> erasmus, what's your support question?
[13:12] <Matt_teni> My Windows 8.1 runs so smooth as in websites and all.
[13:13] <Matt_teni> all because of hardware acceleration
[13:13] <Matt_teni> i dont have such on ubuntu :(
[13:13] <Matt_teni> I need to get intel hd graphics running
[13:13] <ikonia> why ?
[13:13] <ikonia> how do you know you're not using intel ?
[13:14] <ikonia> what have you done to work this through ?
[13:15] <TomyWork> i moved to a new computer with the same OS (kubuntu 14.04). I took my home directory with me, yet some fonts are not the same. I'm trying to find the font i had before. all i can remember is that the font i used in Kate (and probably elswhere too) had a musical note signs at the end of lines when i pasted CRLF-laden text from some windows VM
[13:16] <TomyWork> so, any idea how i can find a font which has a musical note sign as the CR character? :)
[13:17] <Pici> TomyWork: are you sure that it was an actual font, and not just an option in Kate?
[13:17] <TomyWork> the font i'm using now has boxes
[13:17] <Pici> curious
[13:17] <Matt_teni> ikonia, you lspci | grep VGA gives me only Nvidia
[13:17] <TomyWork> those are actual characters i can manipulate, btw, not virtual characters past the end of line
[13:18] <TomyWork> Matt_teni so you're on optimus?
[13:18] <Matt_teni> no idea
[13:18] <Matt_teni> running novouea
[13:18] <Matt_teni> ubuntu 14.04. intel i3 2330m? intel hd grapic 2000 i think
[13:18] <Matt_teni> but its definitely using Nvidia card for display
[13:19] <ira_> nouvea is bad for nvidia. get nvidia driver
[13:20] <ikonia> Matt_teni: tht doesn't mean you're using nvidia or intel
[13:20] <TomyWork> here's what worked for me: log out of your graphical session, go to a terminal, stop your display manager, lsmod, look for nouveau and nvidia stuff, rmmod it all, start your display manager, see if everything works nicely (secondary monitors and such)
[13:20] <ikonia> your xorg log/config shows what you're using
[13:20] <meadhikari> I can not even kill process due to fork: Cannot allocate memory, is there any way out
[13:20] <TomyWork> (i assume you want to disable your nvidia entirely)
[13:20] <kamil___1> hello
[13:20] <TomyWork> (if you dont want to do that, disregard what i said)
[13:20] <kamil___1> how can i open monitors settings from command line?
[13:21] <kamil___1> because i have broken display in laptop and i want disable it
[13:21] <kamil___1> but menu is on this broken creen
[13:24] <makudesu>  /part #ubvuntu
[13:32] <TJ-> kamil___1: if you know the X output name of the broken display, you can do "xrandr --output NAME --off"
[14:00] <TomyWork> meadhikari which shell are you using?
[14:00] <meadhikari> bash
[14:00] <TomyWork> bash should have an integrated kill command
[14:00] <TomyWork> i think that means no forking
[14:00] <TomyWork> what are you typing to kill?
[14:00] <meadhikari> killall
[14:01] <TomyWork> yeah, killall isnt an integrated command
[14:01] <meadhikari> oh
[14:01] <TomyWork> also, dont use killall. pkill is much better
[14:01] <meadhikari> thanks, I resorted to reboot
[14:01] <TomyWork> ok
[14:01] <curiousx> there is also xkill (just sayin') :p
[14:02] <TomyWork> yeah, not that helpful though :)
[14:02] <ubuntu613> Hallo da drausen
[14:02] <claudio_> hola
[14:02] <TomyWork> draußen*
[14:02] <claudio_> alguien paa conversar un poco
[14:02] <curiousx> !es | claudio_
[14:04] <ubuntu613> Kann hier jemand deutsch und hat ne Ahnung von Ubuntu und Windows 10?
[14:04] <Pici> !de | ubuntu613
[14:11] <vasgorad> hello, can I to chat with other person with IRC?
[14:11] <revolve> is there an ubuntu developers channel?
[14:12] <rory> vasgorad: you can /msg User hello
[14:12] <rory> vasgorad: but (a) This is Ubuntu support channel, and (b) some people find it poor courtesy to recieve a PM out of the blue
[14:12] <karl_> revolve: #ubuntu-devel
[14:15] <vasgorad> sorry but in other channels nobody answer my cuestion. I want this information to chat with a friend, I dont want to bother
[14:15] <superwizard> i can't install opera
[14:17] <tekkkz> Hello! I have a problem with openbox: at on-autostart, i set up a proram which should autostart when i launch my openbox-session, but it wont start .. why could this be?
[14:18] <Bernzel> If I want to run photoshop on ubuntu, should I still get the windows version of it? And then use Wine? Or is there some other version?
[14:19] <baizon> Bernzel: there is no linux version, so yes
[14:19] <Bernzel> baizon ok thanks.
[14:19] <auronandace> Bernzel: the other option is to use a vm
[14:19] <superwizard> yes you should
[14:20] <curiousx> Bernzel: and as a suggestion try portable one, cuz sometimes instalables does crash
[14:20] <superwizard> how can i load opera in linux
[14:20] <pbx> re my earlier question about brightness not adjusting after i hot-unplugged my external monitor, found a way to force it: echo 95 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[14:21] <pbx> superwizard, http://www.opera.com/computer/linux
[14:21] <curiousx> superwizard: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[14:36] <jagat> hloo
[14:36] <jagat> jj
[14:37] <reisio> g'bye
[14:44] <pooya> hi
[14:44] <pooya> how are you?
[14:44] <pooya> im arain
[14:45] <somsip> pooya: do you have a support question?
[14:45] <TJ-> !support | Hello pooya
[14:45] <pooya> aha ok
[14:45] <pooya> oh no
[14:45] <TJ-> !ot | pooya
[14:45] <somsip> pooya: well, you're welcome but if you just want to chat join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:45] <pooya> im want to install irc server ! how to do?
[14:47] <baizon> pooya: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+irc+server
[14:47] <auronandace> !google | baizon
[14:48] <TJ-> pooya: To identify irc daemons in the Ubuntu archive do "apt-cache search -n 'ircd'  "
[14:53] <derek01> im trying to switch to kde from gnome on 15.04, i purged gnome, and installed kde, but it just hangs at boot, I had it boot once, and i was able to log in, but it just kept crashing, and wanting me to use a dif env
[14:55] <Powersource> derek01, just guessing here, but what provides the login screen? did you see it after purging gnome?
[14:55] <derek01> powersource: I dont see it anymore, after the restart, but when I did it looked like the standard greeter
[14:56] <hualet> where does unity put my trayicons?
[14:56] <auronandace> hualet: top right
[14:56] <hualet> auronandace: there isn't any tray icon showing there
[14:57] <hualet> for example, kupfer
[15:02] <Bernzel> Thanks I got photoshop working! But Im still experiencing massive graphics leaks. Or it seems atleast. Streaming films, playing games and generally doing anything heavy on graphics causes lag. When I run with win7 I maxed out BF4 so my hardware is decent. I suspect drivers are messing with things?
[15:02] <codedmart> I am trying to use xmonad with ubuntu. I have set theme/icons/etc with lxappearance. I have a ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini file with the proper info in it. All apps that I have used so for use the right theme except nautilus.
[15:03] <codedmart> Nautilus is not following the chosen theme / icons.
[15:03] <codedmart> Any thoughts on why?
[15:08] <YokoBR> hi guys
[15:09] <Powersource> hi dude
[15:09] <YokoBR> please, i have a sftp server that is returning "Permission denied (publickey)"
[15:09] <YokoBR> it's on amazon ec2
[15:09] <rory> YokoBR: You need to put your public key in the file /home/username/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote server
[15:10] <rory> YokoBR: where "username" is the actual username
[15:10] <rory> YokoBR: your public key is in /home/username/.ssh/id_rsa.pub or if it's not, you can generate one with ssh-keygen
[15:11] <somsip> YokoBR: on AWS you need to use the keypair that you specified when you created the instance.
[15:11] <rory> YokoBR: On AWS they give you a private key to use for logging in. You can SSH onto the server initially with: ssh -i /path/to/your/ssh_key.pem username@ec2-x-x-x-x.amazonaws.com
[15:11] <cristian_c> hello
[15:12] <rory> YokoBR: and then once you're on there, put whatever public keys into whatever authorized_keys files
[15:12] <YokoBR> rory: i can login with ssh
[15:12] <cristian_c> I've to put bluetooth initialization command in runlevel
[15:12] <YokoBR> but i can't with sftp
[15:12] <YokoBR> there are two different keys for those
[15:12] <rory> YokoBR: Are you sure your SFTP client is using the correct SSH private key?
[15:12] <YokoBR> two different users
[15:12] <YokoBR> yep
[15:12] <cristian_c> exactly, what steps have I to do to create an init script?
[15:13] <rory> YokoBR: If there are separate keys, separate users, you need to put the public half of the key you're using for SFTP into /home/username/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote server
[15:13] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[15:17] <Icef32> I'm upgrading Ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04 using do-release-upgrade, and the keyboard has stopped working during the upgrade. Is there something I can do (with the mouse) to recover it? The terminal is asking for input to finish the upgrade
[15:18] <Ivoah> Icef32: what kind of keyboard?
[15:18] <Ivoah> (usb, bluetooth, magic...)
[15:18] <Icef32> USB, but the server is in a VM
[15:19] <Icef32> It stopped working half-way through the procedure
[15:20] <rory> Icef32: do you still have access to the menu?
[15:20] <Ivoah> huh
[15:20] <Icef32> Yes
[15:20] <rory> Icef32: system -> Preferences -> Assistive Technologies
[15:20] <rory> Icef32: select "enable assistive technologies"
[15:20] <rory> Icef32: Preferred Applications -> Mobility -> onBoard
[15:20] <SopaXT-[WEB]> Hello!
[15:20] <rory> Icef32: It's a bit convuluted in 10.04 haha
[15:21] <SopaXT-[WEB]> On Ubuntu 15.04, Lenovo Thinkpad Edge E330, I can't use WLAN becuase RFKill reports it as hardblocked.
[15:21] <Icef32> rory: Thanks, trying to get to that. The terminal window is partially covering that part of the menu and can't get to it
[15:21] <SopaXT-[WEB]> The radio key just toggles the soft block
[15:22] <TJ-> SopaXT-[WEB]: I thought the acpi_osi=Linux change fixed that?
[15:22] <Icef32> THe entire OS has partially broken during the upgrade
[15:22] <SopaXT-[WEB]> TJ-: I have been using this before, no result :(
[15:23] <Icef32> rory: Thanks working
[15:23] <TJ-> SopaXT-[WEB]: Well, from our earlier investigation the fault does seem to be with the PC firmware, and its interaction with Linux, so that's where you need to focus
[15:24] <SopaXT-[WEB]> I updated the BIOS a week ago
[15:24] <rory> Icef32: You can move windows by holding the Alt key and...
[15:24] <rory> Icef32: no keyboard. lol.
[15:24] <SopaXT-[WEB]> Win stopped working 5 days ago
[15:24] <SopaXT-[WEB]> Ubuntu 4 days ago
[15:25] <captainunicorn> hi
[15:25] <ioria> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/267352
[15:26] <captainunicorn> i need openssl on ubuntu anyone can help me plz??
[15:26] <TJ-> SopaXT-[WEB]: I meant, earlier when we looking at the DSDT, you said that acpi_osi=Linux fixed the issue. If 'Linux' isn't working have you tried 'Windows 2012' or 'Windows 2009' ?
[15:26] <SopaXT-[WEB]> 'Windows 2012' neither
[15:26] <auronandace> captainunicorn: sudo apt-get install openssl
[15:27] <cfhowlett> captainunicorn, open a terminal: apt-cache policy openssl
[15:27] <TJ-> SopaXT-[WEB]: probably it also requires functionality that is in the Windows-only platform driver
[15:28] <TJ-> SopaXT-[WEB]: if the firmware update broke it, contact the manufacturer's support
[15:28] <SopaXT-[WEB]> TJ-: Can you suggest me anything, please?
[15:28] <captainunicorn> thanks chow but it hasnt opened yet
[15:28] <cfhowlett> SopaXT-[WEB], windows faile?  ubuntu failed?  hardware issue not an ubuntu issue.  consider replacement
[15:28] <captainunicorn> how can i open it
[15:29] <cfhowlett> captainunicorn, man openssl for instructions
[15:29] <SopaXT-[WEB]> Windows has broken the driver
[15:30] <SopaXT-[WEB]> Updating gave 'Incorrect platform'
[15:30] <cfhowlett> SopaXT-[WEB], updating WHAT?
[15:30] <YokoBR> guys, i'm getting permission denied on sftp after chmod 777 /home/user/
[15:30] <derek01> so on trying to switch to KDE from GNOME, booting up, I am halted up. Its stuck at "A start job is running for Wait for...n to Quit" going for 30+ min with no limi
[15:30] <SopaXT-[WEB]> cfhowlett: in this case, updating the Windows driver
[15:30] <SopaXT-[WEB]> Sorry, English isn't my native
[15:31] <cfhowlett> SopaXT-[WEB], updating windows will not effect ubuntu
[15:33] <SopaXT-[WEB]> cfhowlett: You seem to to get it right. Look: I was using Win8.1. After plugging an USB device and rebooting, it said that the driver was not working properly. When I tried to update the driver on win, it failed. So I returned to Linux hoping no bugs will occur. I was wrong.
[15:33] <SopaXT-[WEB]> *not to get it righgt
[15:33] <YokoBR> now i'm getting echo 60 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_time
[15:33] <YokoBR> ops
[15:33] <YokoBR> now im getting Write failed: Broken pipe Couldn't read packet: Connection reset by peer
[15:34] <cfhowlett> SopaXT-[WEB], if both windows and linux OS are failing, that suggests a hardware issue
[15:36] <TJ-> SopaXT-[WEB]: When you did the firmware upgrade, did you reload the factory defaults? sometimes there internal changes between firmware revisions that require that. Firmware changelog/install instructions usually suggest that
[15:36] <SopaXT-[WEB]> TJ-: yep, I have resetted the bios to defaults
[15:36] <SopaXT-[WEB]> didn't try CMOS yet
[15:36] <SopaXT-[WEB]> I mean, the battery
[15:37] <TJ-> SopaXT-[WEB]: best to contact manufacturer support then, the issue isn't Ubuntu or Windows from what you have described
[15:37] <SopaXT-[WEB]> TJ-: now doing this
[15:40] <mustmodify> SO I'm using an ubuntu machine as a dashboard but I can't seem to figure out how to completely disable the screen saver... surely there's a way?
[15:41] <daftykins> unity? should be easy enough, power save settings - screensaver too
[15:44] <derek01> Anyone got KDE experience
[15:44] <derek01> I attmpted to switch to KDE from GNOME on 15.04, and now im stuck on booting
[15:45] <daftykins> define stuck on booting?
[15:45] <auronandace> derek01: you should also mention you attempted to remove gnome
[15:46] <daftykins> yeah that is a key piece of information :P
[15:47] <TJ-> derek01: *how* did you remove the Gnome/Unity/Ubuntu-Desktop packages?
[15:47] <ileonic> hello
[15:47] <daftykins> lo
[15:48] <reisio> 'lo
[15:48] <derek01> I purged gnome
[15:48] <derek01> yea I meant to mention that I purged as well
[15:49] <daftykins> derek01: you're being asked to state specifically what you purged
[15:49] <TJ-> derek01: And how did you install KDE?
[15:49] <auronandace> derek01: removing a whole desktop environment can remove some key dependencies too
[15:50] <derek01> oh sorry, I used sudo apt-get purge gnome*
[15:50] <ileonic> i mjus used the ubuntu mini iso to install  but i am a noob and did not know hot to install the necesary sofware
[15:50] <derek01> tj_: I used sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[15:50] <ileonic> call it the grafical enveriment
[15:50] <TJ-> derek01: OK, did you install kubuntu-desktop before or after purging the gnome packages?
[15:50] <derek01> TJ-: after
[15:50] <ileonic> help o at least a guide i want  to instal the mate destokp
[15:50] <Captonjamason> Whats the Problem
[15:51] <TJ-> derek01: In that case the system should be in a sane state. What *exactly* happens ?
[15:51] <zaggynl> I how can I find out what causes "device eth0 entered promiscuous mode" in dmesg -T ?
[15:51] <daftykins> ileonic: don't have another system to look it up with huh?
[15:51] <cfhowlett> derek01, that is NOT kde.  that's the entire kubuntu apps and kde.  kde-plasma-desktop = de only
[15:52] <daftykins> zaggynl: why are you worried?
[15:52] <bazhang> !info mate-desktop | ileonic
[15:52] <zaggynl> daftykins: promiscuous mode means listening to ALL traffic, could be someone sniffing
[15:52] <bazhang> use the package manager to install it ileonic
[15:53] <Captonjamason> Its not too hard
[15:53] <ileonic> yeah i have but i will have o reboot
[15:53] <bazhang> ileonic, just logout
[15:53] <Captonjamason> You dont need to reboot
[15:53] <Captonjamason> you just need to logout
[15:53] <ioria> ileonic, take a look at this , you can retrieve some info : https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/2014-08-ubuntu-mate-14-04-from-scratch/
[15:54] <daftykins> zaggynl: i know what it means :) via your own machine? you share it?
[15:54] <TJ-> zaggynl: if eth0 is connected to a switch, all that will be seen is the packets destined for the host plus broadcasts and IP traffic for ARP/STP etc
[15:54] <zaggynl> daftykins: my personal desktop, don't share it
[15:54] <daftykins> unless they're also ARP poisoning :)
[15:54] <derek01> cfhowlet: I love getting conflicting information :), I dont remember where, but someone told me thats hte package to get.
[15:54] <Abe> I know it sounds a little odd... but I need an Antivirus for ubuntu to check my System.. I use a lot of Files directly from the internet and not from the repository for linux. It's a huge amount of data that I gathered over time and I want to check them... I decided to get sophos to do a system check. I know how to install it but I don't know how to remove it properly :/... I am looking at this website right now. It tells me how to install but not how to remove i
[15:54] <cfhowlett> !kde | derek01,
[15:55] <Abe> https://www.sophos.com/en-us/support/knowledgebase/14378.aspx
[15:55] <zaggynl> alright, so it might not be malicious or not
[15:55] <TJ-> :)
[15:55] <zaggynl> how do I find out what causes it?
[15:55] <daftykins> zaggynl: contact the driver writer for your NIC maybe :)
[15:55] <cfhowlett> derek01, yeah even the bot factoid is wrong or outdated.  easy to get confused.
[15:56] <Pici> Feel free to submit an updated factoid.
[15:56] <derek01> cfhowlett: suggestions? should I purge kubuntu-desktop and start over?
[15:56] <cfhowlett> derek01, worth trying but may I suggest you install the DE only for now?
[15:57] <derek01> cfhowlett: Absolutley, what would the package be
[15:57] <cfhowlett> derek01, at this point, I must urge you to ... read the wiki >>> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE
[15:57] <cfhowlett> hint: iii
[15:58] <SopaXT-[WEB]> done: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-11e-Windows-E-and-Edge/TP-Edge-E330-WiFi-not-working-on-Ubuntu-15-04/
[15:58] <TJ-> zaggynl: check syslog; it's probably triggered by NetworkManager, and to do with IPv6 SLAAC looking for RAs
[15:58] <zaggynl> thanks
[15:59] <derek01> cfhowlett: I actually tried that first, i remember now. It says its not a package
[15:59] <Abe> Anybody used Sophos for Linux?
[15:59] <zaggynl> huh, apparently it's virtualbox
[16:00] <cfhowlett> derek01, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12254459/
[16:00] <zaggynl> more specifically, bridged mode
[16:00] <zaggynl> which makes sense
[16:00] <TJ-> derek01: Unless you tell us *exactly* how the system is failing, what error messages you see, the behaviour, what happens when trying Recovery mode, we can't provide you with useful recommendations.
[16:02] <derek01> TJ-: apt-get isntall kde-plasma-desktop Unable to locate package kde-plasma-desktop
[16:02] <Abe> derek01: kubuntu-desktop
[16:02] <TheNumb> Abe: he desn't want kubuntu branding
[16:02] <TheNumb> he wants plasma desktop
[16:02] <derek01> ^
[16:02] <cfhowlett> derek01, lsb-release -a | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:03] <TJ-> derek01: Maybe you're on a later release where it is just "plasma-desktop"
[16:03] <derek01> cfhowlett: lsb-release command not found
[16:03] <Abe> TheNumb: aehm isn't that kde? oh you mean that it doesn't say kubuntu when booting with "branding"
[16:04] <auronandace> derek01: cat /etc/issue
[16:04] <TheNumb> Abe: yes.
[16:04] <bazhang> !info plasma-desktop
[16:04] <Abe> hmm no clue
[16:04] <ileonic>  thks brb
[16:04] <TheNumb> In vivid the package name is 'plasma-desktop'
[16:04] <derek01> auronadance: Ubuntu 15.05 \n \l
[16:04] <derek01> 04**
[16:05] <cfhowlett> there it is.  i'm on 14.04 so ... a bit different
[16:05] <ninos_> ciao
[16:05] <auronandace> derek01: you can use tab complete for nicks
[16:05] <derek01> auronandace: Oh snap, didnt know that!
[16:06] <TJ-> derek01: It is 'plasma-desktop' on Vivid because it's Plasma 5.2, whereas Plasma 4 had 'kde-plasma-desktop'
[16:07] <derek01> TJ-: so it did find plasma-desktop, but it is complaining about dependencies, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12254513
[16:08] <derek01> TJ-: I tried to install the dependencies manually, got this. http://paste.ubuntu.com/12254522
[16:08] <auronandace> derek01: have you tried sudo apt-get -f install?
[16:09] <derek01> auronandace: same result as manual attempt
[16:11] <TJ-> derek01: Was that output the result of doing "sudo apt-get -f install" ?
[16:11] <auronandace> derek01: my guess would be to remove (rename may be safer) /etc/gtk-3.0/settings.ini
[16:12] <TJ-> derek01: "dpkg --purge libgtk-3.0" then try "apt-get -f install" again?
[16:12] <TheNumb> derek01: did you add any ppas with updated gnome or gtk?
[16:12] <derek01> TheNumb: No i didnt.
[16:12] <TheNumb> Good.
[16:15] <derek01> TJ-: it wont purge. Dependency problems. libscim8c2a depends, and libgtk-3-bin depends
[16:15] <derek01> Id pastebin it but I cant
[16:19] <TJ-> derek01: OK, try "apt-get install --reinstall -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" libgtk-3.0"
[16:19] <derek01> TJ-: I renamed settings.ini and it processed.
[16:19] <TJ-> derek01: OK, that's just as good :)
[16:19] <derek01> with apt-get -f install
[16:20] <TJ-> derek01: Make sure to put the file back though
[16:21] <auronandace> derek01: if it generated a new settings.ini you may want to open both of them up to see what the differences are
[16:22] <derek01> tj: auronandace: So now that ive purged kubuntu, and I try to install plasma-desktop, its saying nothing needs to be installed
[16:22] <derek01> How can I check its the default DE
[16:23] <auronandace> derek01: f you didn't remove your login manager you should be able to select it from there
[16:23] <auronandace> derek01: lightdm is the default login manager for ubuntu
[16:24] <derek01> auronandace: lets see if it actually boots. I was having an issue with NM halting everything up.
[16:25] <akik> /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[16:25] <akik> on kubuntu 15.04 that says /usr/bin/sddm
[16:30] <derek01> I think I might shoot the machine. Now its got USB failures. and wont boot.
[16:31] <derek01> its just stuck at "starting version 219"
[16:31] <rishi_> hey
[16:32] <reisio> hey-o
[16:33] <topi`_> help needed with upstart: I built the SIGSTOP mechanism to my custom daemon, and then used "expect stop" keyword in the upstart conf file. However, my daemon is only run once, despite the "restart" keyword. Why?
[16:33] <topi`_> it is run multiple times if I omit "expect stop"
[16:34] <TJ-> derek01: That message just happens to the be last one written to the console (it's the systemd version number)... try switching to other VTs with Alt+F1 through Alt+F7 to see other messages. Also, pressing Esc on the current VT *may* help get more info
[16:35] <derek01> TJ-: Yea I can switch to other VTs, but nothing shows on any, and pressing esc leads nowhere unfortunatley. I dropped myself to a root shell to investigate further.
[16:35] <lrs_> Im trying to run steam with optirun and it gives me this
[16:35] <lrs_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12254719/
[16:36] <lrs_> And i cant open it regurarly becuase then it says it needs libGL.so.1
[16:36] <lrs_> Any ideas?
[16:36] <bazhang> lrs_, #ubuntu-steam
[16:38] <dlam> wat do i do if my "Ethernet Network" always says disconected?  (despite it not being so)
[16:38] <TJ-> derek01: OK... if the system is alive you should have logs.
[16:39] <derek01> TJ-: looking into the boot logs, It says its waiting for Screen to quit. At boot?? Not sure why there is a screen running
[16:39] <derek01> TJ-: But I think I know the culprit, its a minecraft server control service that starts at boot, and I think it uses a screen session.
[16:40] <daftykins> dlam: and you have a cable connected?
[16:40] <dlam> yes and i know it works
[16:40] <dlam> dammeet
[16:40] <TJ-> derek01: In boot.log - those are 'friendly' init service names. 'grep Screen /etc/init/* /etc/init.d/*"
[16:41] <derek01> TJ-: no result
[16:45] <derek01> TJ-: im starting to suspect drive failure, ata12: irq_stat 0x00000040 connection status changed
[16:45] <loa> hello, how i can get source package for ffmpeg?
[16:45] <loa> i want enable nvenc there... and install package back/
[16:45] <pbx> status bar has become unresponsive. how do i restart it?
[16:49] <rinoros> hello there, someone can help on configure the xchat to...chat? can't simple connect it, time out and infinite loading
[16:49] <daftykins> use hexchat
[16:49] <daftykins> likely you have the wrong address and port # for the IRC server you're trying to use
[16:49] <SCHAAP137> anyone else have Qjackctl in autostartup, but no icon appears initially in the indicator tray?
[16:50] <SCHAAP137> only after quitting, starting it again, an icon appears
[16:50] <SCHAAP137> wondering how i can change it to have an icon directly there after startup
[16:54] <derek01> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12254867
[16:55] <cfhowlett> derek01, you're running this as root??
[16:56] <derek01> cfhowlett: running what? Im dropped to a root shell, on my machine atm, Im using chat on a seperate machine
[16:56] <cfhowlett> derek01, ah!  got it.
[17:00] <pax2you> ..
[17:00] <cristian_c> lol
[17:00] <android6011> I have a script that I want to append a line to the end of a file. however, not the actually end but insert it as the 3rd to last line
[17:00] <android6011> any ideas on a command I can use?
[17:02] <rinoros> daftykins : still trying here
[17:03] <cristian_c> android6011: I don't know your situation, but I could suggest echo "string" >> fulename
[17:03] <android6011> cristian_c: that puts it at the end. The last line of the file is "COMMIT" so I need anything I "append" to be before that line
[17:04] <cristian_c> android6011: maybe, you could experiment with regex either awk
[17:05] <protn> hey folks
[17:05] <cristian_c> but I'm not very expert, I've only tiried these tools sometimes
[17:06] <cristian_c> I don't remembernthe other tools
[17:06] <cristian_c> android6011: you could find more info in bash documenation
[17:06] <daftykins> rinoros: would you care to give maybe a fraction of a clue, such as which IRC network you're trying to connect to?
[17:07] <|aaron> does anyone here use xming? im having a really weird problem. anytime i switch out of the xming window, when i return the blinking cursor is missing and i cant type anything. but i CAN move the "missing" cursor around with the arrows keys (i can see the active line in my text editor change) or even shift+select text. but any letters, etc. i try to type just do nothing. but then if i just open the "File" menu with the mouse, as soon as i close it the cursor
[17:07] <|aaron> is back and everything ins normal. this happens every single time i switch out of the xming window. anyone have any idea?? im on a ubuntu host, windows 8 client
[17:08] <rinoros> daftykins: sure! i'm trying to connect to freenode, but seeing online there could be some issues with firewall or irc ports being blocked by the router
[17:09] <Ocnios> Anyone know what the default user/pass for this might be https://susestudio.com/a/TadMax/owncloud-in-a-box
[17:09] <derek01> auronandace: cfhowlett: still stuck at boot, ACPI pcc probe failed, starting version 219. cant hit esc to check where its at, but can switch to other VTs. just nothign on any of them
[17:09] <daftykins> rinoros: xchat is so old it's more likely you've got the wrong address or port entered. check the website - and ask further questions in #freenode for help connecting
[17:09] <cfhowlett> derek01, sorry, but this one is too far outside my limited experience.
[17:10] <rinoros> daftykins: oh yeah, srry, already get the hexchat
[17:10] <derek01> cfhowlett: no worries, thanks for the effort!
[17:14] <derek01> So im stuck at boot, cant do anything, but drop to a root shell. Anyone able to help? I was attempting to switch from GNOME to KDE, now when I try to boot im stuck at "starting version 219". Ill drop myself to a root shell, and get whatever logs are needed.
[17:15] <protn> there is issue  with qt5 libs
[17:16] <protn> for some reasons they dont want to install yet on lubuntu 14.04
[17:16] <ikonia> is that really the best description you can offer ?
[17:16] <balance> hi
[17:17] <protn> iconia http://pastebin.com/0XYgfarT
[17:18] <ikonia> protn: so there is no "some reason" it's clear why - it can't find the dependencies it wants / conflicts the dependencies
[17:19] <protn> ikonia: so where do I get those deps?
[17:19] <balance> I want to install kubuntu on my thinkpad yoga. If I boot from usb stick, dual screen + ethernet works. If I boot from SSD ethernet and dual screen doesn't work. What I noticed is that I get some ethernet loading thing which I don't know what it actually does: http://pastie.org/10392296 - dual screen works on the login screen, also ethernet works after installation (breaks if I restart), any hints?
[17:19] <protn> compile from source?
[17:19] <ikonia> protn: look at where you are getting the packages - then look at if the dependencies are in that same repo, if not why not, if they are there, try to install them and see if you get a clearer error
[17:19] <ikonia> no - never compile from source, a package is not aware of source installs
[17:20] <protn> they are not there
[17:20] <ikonia> protn: how do you know ?
[17:20] <protn> cause then they would install
[17:20] <ikonia> no thats not true
[17:20] <ikonia> READ what I said, I said CHECK
[17:20] <ikonia> not assume/guess
[17:20] <arussel> on 15.04/gnome, is there a way to have a keyboard shortcut for: put window on left half/right half ?
[17:20] <protn> ook at where you are getting the packages  how?
[17:20] <arussel> (same as what sizeup does in mac)
[17:21] <ikonia> protn: look at what repo these packages come from
[17:25] <protn> works now
[17:25] <protn> when I installed missing packages via synaptic
[17:25] <protn> ty
[17:25] <jhutchins> ikonia: If you actually take the extra step of building a package, the package manger is aware of the install.  It's easy if the packages are Ubuntu packages, they'll have a .deb target.  Third party software takes some extra work,
[17:26] <ikonia> jhutchins: what ?
[17:26] <jhutchins> ikonia: Working with source is appropriate, it's not a "never build from source" thing, it's a "know what you're doing" thing.
[17:27] <ikonia> jhutchins: the guy can't handle the package manager - I think he should "never build from source"
[17:27] <jhutchins> ikonia: I think he should learn how to do what he's trying to do.
[17:27] <ikonia> install a package.....
[17:28] <ikonia> which already exists in the repo
[17:28] <jhutchins> ikonia: You weren't born knowing apt.
[17:28] <ikonia> no, but I learnt how to use it before trying to build debs
[17:29] <derek01> So im stuck at boot, cant do anything, but drop to a root shell. Anyone able to help? I was attempting to switch from GNOME to KDE, now when I try to boot im stuck at "starting version 219". Ill drop myself to a root shell, and get whatever logs are needed.
[17:31] <jhutchins> derek01: First off, try aptitude -f install (fix).
[17:31] <jhutchins> derek01: What was the last thing you did before it failed?
[17:31] <derek01> jhutchins: I already did try that. and we left off after installing plasma-desktop
[17:32] <Toya> Computer extremely slow with anything to do with graphics, like switching browser tabs or scrolling fast
[17:33] <daftykins> Toya: graphics hardware + driver?
[17:33] <jhutchins> derek01: So you're not getting a greeter/login/display manger, right?  Did you install kdm?
[17:33] <jhutchins> !install kde
[17:34] <Toya> Not sure what's the problem, it used to be fine weeks ago.
[17:34] <jhutchins> Toya: So what changed?
[17:35] <derek01> jhutchins: actually its not even starting the boot process, but I think I just fixed that. I had my RAID array unplugged, and it was halting looking for it. Now it booted, but im at a black screen, Im gonna give it a few min, then drop back to the root shell, and see what the boot log says. Now I think its a DM issue
[17:35] <derek01> wont even let me switch VTs
[17:36] <Toya> I don't know, I just noticed that anything with graphics such as switching windows is slow and sometimes freezes my computer
[17:36] <Toya> It used be really normal
[17:37] <jhutchins> derek01: Do you get the grub boot menu?  (you may need to hold shift while booting)
[17:37] <TheNumb> jhutchins: there's no kdm in 15.04
[17:37] <BluesKaj> derek01, did you try installing the graphics driver for your card
[17:37] <jhutchins> Toya: Is it swapping?
[17:37] <derek01> jhutchins: Yes I get the grub menu.
[17:38] <Toya> What do you mean by swapping?
[17:38] <derek01> BluesKaj: Yes I have the nvidia drivers
[17:38] <jhutchins> Toya: If your system runs out of ram and starts using the swap space on the hard drive a lot it will slow everything down.
[17:39] <Toya> Oh, no. Swap is 0%
[17:39] <jhutchins> Toya: You can see this with top, or with the sysstat package's iostat.
[17:39] <jhutchins> Toya: Is CPU usage high when trying to do these actions?
[17:40] <Toya> I noticed that CPU is much much spikey than it used to be, like it would go up ~ 40% of cores
[17:41] <Toya> Before it only went that high if I played a game on wine
[17:41] <derek01> jhutchins: is there something you wanted me to do from GRUB?
[17:45] <cristian_c> a further question
[17:45] <cristian_c> what application does manage init scripts?
[17:45] <cristian_c> sysvinit, upstart either systemd?
[17:45] <cristian_c> in 14.04
[17:46] <ikonia> upstart
[17:47] <jhutchins> derek01: No, it shows that it's at least starting the boot process, and you've probably got a video problem.  You might check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:48] <jhutchins> derek01: Also check dmesg | less and look for errors, particularly at the end.
[17:48] <jhutchins> cristian_c: Yes.
[17:48] <jhutchins> cristian_c: I believe 15.04 is systemd.
[17:50] <Bernzel> I downloaded Sublime Text 2 software, got pressed the file from chrome and get's to Archive manager. Nothing runnable in the folder. How do I install?
[17:52] <dna113p> jesus... you can tab to autocomplete names :O
[17:53] <daftykins> dna113p: i don't think jesus is online right now
[17:53] <dna113p> daftykins: daftykins daftykins
[17:54] <dna113p> Sometimes, I feel as though I may not be fit to use computers
[17:54] <daftykins> !ot | dna113p please take the chat elsewhere
[18:00] <kirill> привет всем
[18:00] <daftykins> !ru
[18:04] <oaulakh> how to mount drives automatically in ubuntu, i have fstab file output if anyone can help for http://paste.ubuntu.com/12255416/
[18:05] <daftykins> oaulakh: you have a typo in there, /media/windows not media/windows
[18:05] <oaulakh> ok
[18:05] <daftykins> and the last one you have "auto" and "rw" which should be "auto,rw" though you might not even need to specify read/write
[18:05] <daftykins> "ntfs-3g" hasn't been necessary vs. "ntfs" for a very long time
[18:06] <oaulakh> ok
[18:07] <oaulakh> so i should write onlt ntfs right
[18:07] <daftykins> yes
[18:07] <oaulakh> and on read write mode ?
[18:07] <derek01> hm it might help if the greeter was installed
[18:07] <oaulakh> auto,rw right?
[18:07] <daftykins> maybe
[18:07] <loa> can somebody explain me, what mean "rc" in this listing? it is dpkg -l https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2015.09.02-21%3A07%3A07.png
[18:07] <oaulakh> what is greeter?
[18:07] <daftykins> you're also missing a file system from the FAT entry at the end
[18:07] <derek01> oaulakh: sorry not meant to your situation
[18:07] <EriC^^> oaulakh: you have auto on the first one too, replace it with ext4    errors=remount-ro
[18:08] <daftykins> oh yeah it's all been creatively written :)
[18:08] <EriC^^> :)
[18:08] <oaulakh> EriC^^, but my ext4 is working fine
[18:09] <oaulakh> problem is with ntfs and vfat mounting drives :(
[18:09] <EriC^^> oaulakh: it's better in case it ever gets an error to trouble shoot it, it's what i have, it's default
[18:09] <oaulakh> ok
[18:09] <EriC^^> ( it'll mount ro )
[18:10] <Bashing-om> loa: dpkg status flags 'rc' ->> files (R)emoved (C)onfig files remain .
[18:10] <loa> Bashing-om, thx
[18:10] <vivid> do you guys just tell people to go to #ubuntu-steam if they mention steam or something?
[18:10] <oaulakh> EriC^^, i dont want to mess with fstab can you correct it little plz http://paste.ubuntu.com/12255416/
[18:10] <vivid> because there's zero support staff there
[18:11] <vivid> and problems with optimus really have nothing to do with steam, but rather simply exposes underlying issues within ubuntu
[18:11] <cfhowlett> vivid, irc is not the only support option for ubuntu /steam or other programs.  if no one is home at irc, they should go to forums
[18:11] <vivid> well people are clearly "home" because they're sending them to that channel
[18:11] <cimbakahn> I am going to install a fresh operating system.  I was wondering if there is a file for Hexchat that saves all my chatrooms.  A file i can save on my external hard drive so i don't have to search for them and put them in all over again, when i install the new OS?
[18:11] <cimbakahn> I found:  /home/MY NAME/.config/hexchat/
[18:11] <cimbakahn> Which file is it?
[18:12] <krizzo> Is there any method of a kickstart for a unattended pxe boot full install of ubuntu server?
[18:12] <cfhowlett> krizzo, I bet #ubuntu-server would know more about that
[18:12] <krizzo> cfhowlett: Thanks didn't know about that channel.
[18:13] <cfhowlett> krizzo, happy2help!!
[18:13] <vivid> half the people in #ubuntu-steam say go to #steamlug for help
[18:13] <daftykins> cimbakahn: that's a folder
[18:13] <vivid> they go there, people say "dont use ubuntu"
[18:13] <Bashing-om> loa: While there is no built in way to remove all of your configuration information from your removed packages you can remove all configuration data from every removed package with the following command. ' dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge '
[18:13] <cimbakahn> I know.  Which file is it in that folder?
[18:13] <oaulakh> EriC^^, solved but now last problem is how to show this mounted drives in file manager list?
[18:13] <TheNumb> vivid: they really say that?
[18:13] <vivid> definitely
[18:13] <vivid> all the time
[18:14] <TheNumb> that sucks
[18:14] <pablokbs> Hello, I'm trying to automate the installation of landscape clients with Chef. Is there a way to check if the machine is already registered?
[18:14] <oaulakh> how to show this mounted drives in file manager list? like some drive under /mnt/windows/?
[18:14] <wileee> vivid, this is support not your soapbox based on subjectivity in all your connections.
[18:14] <EriC^^> bookmark maybe
[18:14] <vivid> wileee: then support yeah? dont fumble people around your channels until they give up
[18:15] <lrs_> I cant use optirun.... it says it cant find secondary gpu. Anyone know?
[18:15] <daftykins> vivid: drop the attitude.
[18:15] <wileee> vivid, you are an idiot.
[18:15] <vivid> im responding to wileee with the same attitude he provided daftykins
[18:15] <cfhowlett> let's all chill out, yes?
[18:16] <daftykins> vivid: i'm saying don't :) we often point out the existence of other channels in case a reply isn't given here, don't come complaining that those say other things.
[18:16] <pdc2> cfhowlett, how do I install an ubuntu program on an NTFS drive?
[18:16] <vivid> im not complaining that people "say things"
[18:16] <daftykins> pdc2: you don't.
[18:16] <cfhowlett> pdc2, dont
[18:17] <pdc2> cfhowlett, I need to. I'm running low on space in / folder
[18:17] <cfhowlett> default filesystem for ubuntu is ext4.  there is no sane reason to use ntfs
[18:17] <lrs_> I think vivid is complaining someone sent me to ubuntu-steam?
[18:17] <lrs_> Or am I wrong.
[18:17] <vivid> correct
[18:17] <lrs_> Basically my problem is as stated above
[18:17] <cfhowlett> pdc2, then clean out some space
[18:17] <alessandro_> ciao
[18:17] <Bashing-om> lrs_: optirun is BumbleBee, no ? Might consider purging BumbleBee and using nvidia-prime ; IF this is optimus technology .
[18:17] <vivid> i would like to help him, but i simply dont have enough knowledge on bumblebee
[18:17] <lrs_> Bashing-om, Well. ive purged them multiple times
[18:17] <lrs_> BUt i thought bumblebee and primus need both?
[18:18] <lrs_> Or...?
[18:18] <lrs_> primusrun / optirun is the command i use
[18:18] <wileee> lrs_, lighten the enter and use full sentences.
[18:19] <lrs_> Ok... i installed bumblebee-nvidia
[18:19] <lrs_> That was missing, now i cna open firefox
[18:20] <lrs_> With optirun firefox. But i have the same old problem with steam again
[18:20] <Bashing-om> lrs_: From what I can gather ' optirun ' is a function of BumbleBee . Not within nvidia-prime.
[18:20] <lrs_> Bashing-om, bumblebee uses primus
[18:21] <lrs_> primus is nvidias tool, bumblebee is opensource thing that uses nvidias cards
[18:21] <lrs_> You can use bumblebee and nouveau but its complete horse manure
[18:21] <lrs_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12255578/
[18:21] <alessandro_> !list
[18:22] <lrs_> Bashing-om, wileee http://paste.ubuntu.com/12255578/ thats my problem
[18:22] <lrs_> Installed : bumblee, primus, nvidia-current,
[18:22] <daftykins> primus != nvidia-prime
[18:22] <daftykins> you cannot have bumblebee installed at the same time as prime
[18:23] <lrs_> are you sure?
[18:23] <wileee> lrs_, No idea here I don;t game, just commented so the channel could follow you easier. ;)
[18:23] <derek01> so im trying to purge kde from the system to start over. I got back to my greeter, and was able to log in, but now 2 of my three screens are stuck on a DE selector, mirroring the mouse on my 3rd screens desktop. Its quite odd. would apt-get purge kde* be a bad idea?
[18:23] <daftykins> lrs_: given i've helped over 20 people set it up i think i have a slight hint or two on it by now, yes
[18:24] <wileee> derek01, Any other desktop installed? What is the end goal?
[18:24] <vivid> daftykins: thats exactly why i wanted to get him back into this channel, thanks :D
[18:24] <lrs_> daftykins, so i  should remove bumblebee?
[18:24] <lrs_> purge bumblebee?
[18:24] <lrs_> and keep primus?
[18:24] <derek01> wileee: End goal is to use KDE as me DE, Im currently using gnome.
[18:24] <daftykins> i just said it's not called primus.
[18:24] <derek01> wileee: but its all messed up, and I think starting from begining is the best choice
[18:25] <jhutchins> derek01: Yeah, I believe I asked about kdm.
[18:25] <oaulakh> how to make read and write permission to drive in fstab file http://paste.ubuntu.com/12255604/ now my drives are mounting perfectly but i duuno hopw to make read and write ?
[18:25] <wileee> derek01, gnome what? you can have both, purging a de is not a beginners move is all.
[18:25] <lrs_> daftykins, Im confused. Is optirun bumblee and primusrun nvidia-prime or primus or whatever?
[18:26] <oaulakh> daftykins, how to make drive read and write now http://paste.ubuntu.com/12255604/
[18:26] <derek01> jhutchins: sorry, i got lost in the trying to get my greeter working, then my default DM was set wrong. So now im logged in, but Its super buggy. Ill attempt to take a screenshot to show you what i mean
[18:26] <jhutchins> derek01: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE
[18:27] <derek01> jhutchins: yea im past that, I am attempting to purge all of kde from my system to start over. So i want to make sure purging kde* is ok, or if it will remove anything I shouldnt
[18:27] <pablokbs> Hello, I'm trying to automate the installation of landscape clients with Chef. Is there a way to check if the machine is already registered?
[18:27] <derek01> jhutchins: Ive already purged plasma
[18:27] <oaulakh> how to make read and write permission to drive in fstab file http://paste.ubuntu.com/12255604/ now my drives are mounting perfectly but i duuno how to make read and write ?
[18:27] <derek01> jhutchins: Its going to purge roughly 500mb of data
[18:28] <cfhowlett> derek01, apt-get -s  commandgoeshere                    -s will "sandbox" the command, i.e. give you a preview only
[18:29] <derek01> cfhowlett: Im aware of whats going to be purged, just dont know if its relevant to my current system. As Im looking im seeing pulseaudio is included. So I just answered my own question lol
[18:29] <lrs_> Ok, so i uninstalled primus.
[18:29] <lrs_> Seems like i can still use optirun
[18:30] <lrs_> But primusrun is not working. So primusrun is for primus and optirun for bumblebee
[18:30] <vivid> wileee: btw, where's the subjectivity? im pretty sure these channels are logged
[18:31] <Bashing-om> lrs_: Homework time . Start at termianl command 'apt-cache show nvidia-prime ' .
[18:31] <lrs_> now i removed bumblebee too
[18:31] <lrs_> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12255652/
[18:32] <lrs_> I installed that now.
[18:32] <lrs_> Should I install primus too? Or should i jkust stick with nvidia-prime?
[18:32] <samba35> please correct me if i am wrong if you are using genric/default kernel and not using kernel from recompile in that case if you have  some configure is =y so that is load as a what and if it is load does that module show with lsmod command
[18:32] <samba35>   a /boot/config-3.x.x-generic
[18:33] <lrs_> Bashing-om, If I install primus, it wants me to install bumblebee too and vice versa. Dont get this.
[18:34] <quarters> is there a recommended version of ubuntu that can run fairly decently on 1 gb of RAM?
[18:34] <lrs_> "For nvidia-prime to work, remove bumblebee and bumblebee-nvidia with a --purge first. Reinstall nvidia driver with nvidia prime. nvidia-prime uses the implementation of Nvidia's Optimus technology but in this case, the nvidia driver always stays on regardless of system load and the intel driver is only used as a sink."
[18:34] <cfhowlett> lubuntu or xubuntu quarters
[18:35] <Bashing-om> lrs_: Your goal is to get steam functional with optimus technology ? The current recomendation is to use nvidia-prime to control the graphics sets . Now, what sdo you gather from the 'apt-cache' output ?
[18:35] <lrs_> Bashing-om, Well, i can now start steam reguralry
[18:35] <lrs_> Cant start games, it says..
[18:36] <darkxploit> hello does anyone knows what does this mean in the ntp log please 28 Aug 03:42:08 ntpd[44374]: 0.0.0.0 c012 02 freq_set kernel 56.888 PPM
[18:36] <darkxploit> help me please
[18:36] <marco_> heello
[18:36] <jhutchins> darkxploit: Did you try dropping it into google?
[18:36] <lrs_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/475756/could-not-find-required-opengl-entry-point-glgeterror Bashing-om
[18:36] <lrs_> Got this problem earlier too
[18:36] <lrs_> I think im gonna change nvidia version
[18:37] <quarters> cfhowlett: thank you. I'll check out lubuntu. I'm hoping to run it on vmware
[18:37] <darkxploit> jhutchins, i do not get enough hint. thats why i choose IRC to get an interactive discussion
[18:37] <Bashing-om> lrs_: I am not a gamer. can not advise anything about games .
[18:37] <lrs_> Question is which version
[18:37] <tertiary> im using iotop to monitor disk activity. Disk read is always 0 bytes/sec, never budges. I have many services running, including a python script to continually read a file 20mb at a time, but still nothing. I do have a gluster nfs running. Would that matter? Am I missing something here?
[18:37] <lrs_> Bashing-om, YEah. But what nvidia version is the best, stable? nvidia-current is god damn ancient
[18:38] <lrs_> Bashing-om, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/08/ubuntu-nvidia-graphics-drivers-ppa-is-ready-for-action what about this..?
[18:38] <derek01> ok
[18:39] <Bashing-om> lrs_: Again, what nvidia graphics card . ' sudo ubuntu-drivers devices ; sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' . And match the chip set to the proper driver .
[18:39] <derek01> so im finally booted, in a gnome environment. The main reason i wanted to switch to KDE, was nautilus was messing up. Whenever I drag something more than a pixel, it crashes nautilus
[18:39] <lrs_> Bashing-om, Well... the driver version is obviously old. 304 is the "current" one. They have released dozens up to 355
[18:40] <lrs_> Im going with 355
[18:40] <lrs_> Or hmmm
[18:41] <Bashing-om> lrs_: Old card and new version driver, DOES not mean that the new version supports the old hardware .
[18:42] <Bashing-om> lrs_: What does Nvidia recommend : http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html for the driver ?
[18:45] <Mirodroid> lrs_, what gpu agian?
[18:45] <Mirodroid> lrs_, i ask as i know a bit about the nvidia driver(s)
[18:45] <Mirodroid> especialy with another distrobutions stupid naming convention for their official drivers
[18:49] <lrs_> Bashing-om, Its not there
[18:49] <oal> How can I see the ports open with UFW without enabling it?
[18:49] <lrs_> Mirodroid, NVIDIA NVS 5400M
[18:49] <oal> And isn't it enough to do ufw allow 1234 to open a port?
[18:49] <oal> I've locked myself out twice now... :p
[18:51] <Bashing-om> lrs_: That card Nvidia recommneds the 352 version ! http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/90279/en-us
[18:52] <lrs_> Bashing-om, Ok, done
[18:53] <tnkhanh> hi I have packagekit in /usr and /usr/local, the one in /usr is from distro and older version, how to force use the one in /usr/local?
[18:55] <Bernzel> Im trying to install Sublime Text 2. I tried running this in terminal http://askubuntu.com/questions/172698/how-do-i-install-sublime-text-2-3 and it started installing and seemed fine, but I can't find the software installed anywhere?
[18:56] <jhutchins> Bernzel: See http://www.sublimetext.com/support for sublime support.  It is not an ubuntu package, we do not know how to support it.
[18:57] <derek01> so now my issue is this, Moving any file more than a pixel crashes nautilus. Even when I try to just re-arrange my desktop, by moving a folder, everything disapears, and I have to start nautilus to get them back.
[18:58] <demhlyr> Bernzel: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/07/sublime-text-3-ubuntu-ppa-now-available.html you can add a ppa for sublime
[18:59] <derek01> dpaste.com/1V4YP7D
[19:00] <tnkhanh> hi I have packagekit in /usr and /usr/local, the one in /usr is from distro and older version, how to force use the one in /usr/local?
[19:03] <lrs_> heh. seems its working
[19:03] <lrs_> BUt.....
[19:03] <lrs_> I had to install bumblebee...
[19:03] <Mirodroid> ahh
[19:03] <Mirodroid> wb
[19:03] <lrs_> But if i use steam... it works
[19:03] <lrs_> So strange
[19:03] <Bashing-om> lrs_: Use what works .
[19:03] <Mirodroid> yea the 5400M will utilize the 35x.x series nvidia driver
[19:04] <lrs_> Bashing-om, Yeah well. I need it to use the 5400.. because the other gfx is slow as heck
[19:04] <lrs_> but when i start with just steam, im not really sure
[19:04] <Mirodroid> on another channel i had someone come in saying the Nvidia 3400 series driver wasnt working on their 4200 TI
[19:04] <Mirodroid> 340.x
[19:05] <Bashing-om> lrs_: What is the on-die graphics chip set ?
[19:05] <Mirodroid> the latest driver iirc just added support for the GTX950
[19:05] <lrs_> But i picked primusrun as launchoption in steam. So i think it works...?
[19:05] <lrs_> So.. i start steam normal, and it *Should*start primusrun when i start a game
[19:06] <lrs_> Bashing-om, on-die?
[19:06] <Mirodroid> Bashing-om, pretty sure lrs said Nvidia 5400M which is a quadro gpu
[19:07] <lrs_> NVIDIA NVS 5400M is the gfx cards used for performance, Intel HD Graphics 4000 is the gfx in the mb
[19:07] <Mirodroid> Thinkpad?
[19:07] <lrs_> Yeah Thinkpad T530
[19:07] <Mirodroid> figgured
[19:07] <Mirodroid> :)
[19:07] <Bashing-om> Mirodroid: If this is not a hybrid graphics situation, then a means to switch graphics sets is not even in the equation .
[19:07] <lrs_> You?
[19:07] <lrs_> Thinkpad is good. But fucking nvidia on linux is hell
[19:07] <Mirodroid> T61p
[19:07] <lrs_> Oh nice
[19:08] <lrs_> Thats the best of the best
[19:08] <Mirodroid> well 27 thinkpads but agian tyhis is leading to offtopic
[19:08] <daftykins> !language | lrs_
[19:08] <lrs_> I kinda like the frankenpad stuff
[19:08] <Mirodroid> take thinkpad discussion to ##ibmthinkpad
[19:08] <well> ola
[19:08] <daftykins> lets take the chat away to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[19:08] <well> ola bot
[19:08] <lrs_> I actually used to be a bit in that channel
[19:08] <well> help
[19:08] <lrs_> But anyways, thx for help! Now i know 352 is the way to go
[19:08] <well> meus ovo
[19:08] <well> chupa
[19:08] <daftykins> well: ask a question in english.
[19:08] <well> meu ovo
[19:09] <well> quero saber como se comi um cu
[19:09] <well> ?
[19:10] <derek01> anyone have any ideas relating to my nautilus errors? Im fairly certain this pertains to it : http://pastebin.com/TY6bUDsp
[19:12] <fancyfetus> Hey guys
[19:12] <fancyfetus> I'm having a lot of difficulty installing ubuntu in uefi mode
[19:13] <daftykins> details?
[19:13] <fancyfetus> I guess i tried to install it alongsite windows 10 a while back and gave up. I returned to try again, but I think my EFI partition is really messed up. In my bios boot options there is like... 7 ubuntu boot options
[19:13] <daftykins> heh
[19:14] <fancyfetus> none of which boot to ubuntu
[19:14] <fancyfetus> I can't even boot to a usb containing ubuntu in UEFI mode.
[19:14] <daftykins> but you did to install
[19:15] <fancyfetus> I must have, yeah
[19:15] <fancyfetus> But to be honest I'd forgotten that I even tried earlier.
[19:15] <fancyfetus> So I have no idea what I did...
[19:16] <tnkhanh> I think I just uninstalled ubuntu-desktop and everything is still running ok.
[19:16] <fancyfetus> I've already deleted the ubuntu storage partition I created. How do I... reset my EFI partition
[19:16] <tnkhanh> help!
[19:16] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: when you boot ubuntu what happens?
[19:16] <EriC^^> tnkhanh: what's the command you used?
[19:17] <fancyfetus> EriC^^, which one do I boot to? :P There is one partition that is a part of my ssd called ubuntu.
[19:17] <fancyfetus> Then there are 7 other partitions that are 476GB in size (which doesn't make sense...)
[19:17] <fancyfetus> all called ubuntu
[19:17] <fancyfetus> When I boot to the main one that is part of my ssd, it just boots into windows
[19:19] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: do you have a live usb?
[19:19] <tnkhanh> EriC^^: check this out. It seems I uninstalled ubuntu-desktop http://paste.ubuntu.com/12256040/
[19:19] <fancyfetus> oh, I just tried booting to the main ssd partition called Ubuntu
[19:19] <fancyfetus> and It took me to GNU GRUB
[19:20] <EriC^^> tnkhanh: why are you removing that package?
[19:20] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: ok
[19:21] <tnkhanh> EriC^^: it seems to be "conflicting package", with another package. I'm not sure what that means, I'm just trying stuff
[19:21] <fancyfetus> EriC^^, It's just the grub command line though. I do have a live usb. Do I boot to it in UEFI or normal mode?
[19:21] <EriC^^> tnkhanh: what other package?
[19:21] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: grub prompt is fine
[19:21] <tnkhanh> EriC^^: the other is packagekit
[19:22] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: type ls -l
[19:22] <fancyfetus> That's an L right?
[19:22] <tnkhanh> EriC^^: it seems everything is still fine and even better, packagekit not conflicting anymore!
[19:22] <fancyfetus> "error: file --l' not found."
[19:23] <fancyfetus> ls works though.
[19:23] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: ok, try ls (hdx,gptY)/
[19:24] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: pick one that looks like the ubuntu partition
[19:24] <fancyfetus> disk -hdx,gptY not found
[19:24] <EriC^^> tnkhanh: i think you need that python package though
[19:25] <fancyfetus> (hd0) (hd1) (hd1, msdos1) (hd2) (hd2, msdos1) (hd3) (hd3, gpt3) (hd3,gpt2) (hd3,gpt1) (hd4) (hd4,msdos1)
[19:25] <fancyfetus> that's what ls prints
[19:25] <EriC^^> tnkhanh: why are you installing packagekit anyways?
[19:26] <tnkhanh> EriC^^: its a dependency to build plasma-desktop which is what I'm trying to do
[19:26] <fancyfetus> also, to be clear, I want to remove all traces of ubuntu from my efi and start fresh
[19:26] <EriC^^> tnkhanh: oh, ok
[19:27] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: ok, can you boot the live usb?
[19:27] <fancyfetus> in uefi or normal mode?
[19:29] <fancyfetus> okay, launched in uefi mode, EriC^^
[19:30] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: ok, type sudo parted -l
[19:31] <EriC^^> paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[19:31] <fancyfetus> paste.ubuntu.com/12256185/
[19:32] <fancyfetus> paste.ubuntu.com/12256185/ EriC^^
[19:34] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: where do you want to install ubuntu?
[19:34] <derek01> anyone have any ideas relating to my nautilus errors? Im fairly certain this pertains to it : http://pastebin.com/TY6bUDsp
[19:34] <fancyfetus> on the 500GB SSD
[19:35] <fancyfetus> EriC^^, the samsung drive.
[19:35] <j2daosh> hello all. This is probably not the appropriate place for this, but i had a VM with kali on it that started failing when it did a disk check because the vml file was full
[19:35] <j2daosh> s/vml/vmk/
[19:36] <j2daosh> anyway, I loaded up a bigger drive for the kali install and now i am trying to recover the data. I loaded the disk to the new installation but according to diskmanager and partitionmanager, it doesn't have a partition table now (i think it must have gotten corrupted from the failed fsck). what are my recovery options?
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> j2daosh  idd, kali is not supported here
[19:36] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: ok, i think you have 34gb at the end free space
[19:37] <fancyfetus> 134*
[19:37] <EriC^^> right
[19:37] <j2daosh> MonkeyDust: i know but kali was dead and since it is has a ubuntu base, uses a ubuntu gui, recovery should be similiar
[19:37] <BenLubar> apt-get just gets stuck on "0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::17)]" when I try to `sudo apt-get install ghc`
[19:37] <fancyfetus> EriC^^, what about my currently messed up EFI partition?
[19:37] <daftykins> j2daosh: still off topic i'm afraid, you can go nuts with 'testdisk' though - but you'll get no more input in here.
[19:37] <OerHeks> j2daosh, wrong,kali 2 has debian as base, good luck in #debian
[19:37] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: type sudo efibootmgr -v
[19:37] <OerHeks> kali failing, lolz
[19:38] <fancyfetus> EriC^^, command not found
[19:38] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: ok, type sudo apt-get install efibootmgr
[19:39] <fancyfetus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12256265
[19:40] <fancyfetus> lol, that doesn't look right at all
[19:42] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: try sudo efibootmgr -B 000F
[19:42] <lauri> Hi, is there anyone working with Ubuntu Certified program?
[19:42] <fancyfetus> EriC^^, I deleted the partition that had storage for my past installation of ubuntu
[19:42] <fancyfetus> that's why I have so much free space.
[19:43] <fancyfetus> it says, "You must specify a boot entry to delete (see the -b option)
[19:43] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: ok, try sudo efibootmgr -b 000F -B
[19:44] <fancyfetus> alright, it's gone
[19:44] <fancyfetus> EriC^^, why does 000B exist? It's just a removable drive, nothing to boot from.
[19:45] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: i dunno, it probably just lists it
[19:46] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: try for i in {0001..9}; do sudo efibootmgr -b $i -B; done
[19:46] <EriC^^> wait
[19:46] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: try for i in {0003..9}; do sudo efibootmgr -b $i -B; done
[19:47] <fancyfetus> LOL
[19:47] <fancyfetus> I'd like to keep my windows partition :P
[19:47] <EriC^^> :D
[19:48] <fancyfetus> There are still a few ubuntu partitions
[19:49] <fancyfetus> 000A, 000C and 000E. Remove those as well?
[19:49] <EriC^^> yeah
[19:49] <fancyfetus> okay done
[19:50] <EriC^^> ok, start the installer
[19:50] <fancyfetus> (Y)
[19:51] <fancyfetus> Is the 3rd party software any good? Or is it bloaty?
[19:51] <EriC^^> it's ok, you need it for lots of stuff like mp3 codecs
[19:51] <fancyfetus> awesome
[19:52] <EriC^^> i think
[19:52] <fancyfetus> Install Ubuntu alongside WIndows Boot Manager?
[19:52] <EriC^^> yeah
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> EriC^^  FYI: with the command 'batch', you can also type the different script lines one by one and execute immediately
[19:53] <ash_work> is this how you would move all files except hidden ones? mv [^.]* /dir/ ?
[19:53] <EriC^^> MonkeyDust: cool, i will check it out
[19:53] <EriC^^> ty :)
[19:53] <fancyfetus> EriC^^, it says that some partition tables will be changed.
[19:53] <fancyfetus> SCSI1 (0, 0, 0) (sda)
[19:54] <expedion> Hey guys, got a question on connecting to a sftp server through nautilus. Basically I have a .ppk file that I need to use. How should I go about doing this?
[19:54] <fancyfetus> partition #4 and 5 specifically.
[19:54] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: no problem
[19:54] <fancyfetus> will this be filling the 135 GB of unallocated space or will this be taking from my windows installation
[19:54] <expedion> It's driving me nuts haha, been trying to get it to work for days now.
[19:55] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: it will use the unallocated space
[19:55] <fancyfetus> installing
[19:56] <EriC^^> ok
[19:56] <fancyfetus> Can gnome be run ontop of ubuntu without having to install ubuntu gnome separately?
[19:57] <EriC^^> yeah
[19:57] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[19:57] <expedion> Running Gnome on top of Ubuntu, wouldn't that make things slower?
[19:57] <expedion> Since you'll have Unity AND Gnome running :/,
[19:57] <auronandace> unity uses gnome 3 as it's base
[19:58] <fancyfetus> Don't think it would be noticeable for me :P
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> unity is a compiz plugin for gnome3
[19:58] <expedion> Still, 2 instances though. Unity and Gnome running at the same time.
[19:58] <fancyfetus> Oh man... I hated Unity with a passion when it was first released.
[19:58] <expedion> Why fancyfetus?
[19:59] <EriC^^> expedion: they don't run together, you can choose either one at the login screen
[19:59] <fancyfetus> Not sure. I can't remember my reasoning. It's fine.
[19:59] <juan_> Hi guys
[19:59] <EriC^^> unity is just a de too
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> expedion  you mean gnome-shell
[19:59] <expedion> EriC^^ nice didn't know :).
[19:59] <fancyfetus> It's fine now*
[19:59] <expedion> And how can you switch back to Unity from Gnome?
[19:59] <Jarvis007> Test
[19:59] <fancyfetus> expedion, by logging off and on again
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> expedion  logout, switch, login
[19:59] <fancyfetus> You can choose it from the log in page :)
[19:59] <expedion> Logout as in, logout account yea?
[20:00] <juan_> i have a question
[20:00] <fancyfetus> yes sir.
[20:00] <expedion> That's awesome man.
[20:00] <Jarvis007> expedion: I'm hling you just for testing's sake k?
[20:00] <juan_> impact in some if i disable IPv6 in Ubuntu?
[20:00] <expedion> The thing with Gnome that I just find the top panel... wtf, looks so ugly. Well atleast the stuff on the top left does.
[20:00] <fancyfetus> expedion, you can have others too! Plasma looked nice but was super ganky
[20:00] <fancyfetus> expedion, ohhh but you can skin it to look OH SO GOOD
[20:01] <expedion> And like the active tabs on Gnome.... my god. Just plain texts :/ chaotic.
[20:01] <Jarvis007> k done testing
[20:01] <expedion> Fancyfetus, got a link to a nice skin for it?
[20:01] <fancyfetus> Thanks EriC^^! :) I was under the assumption that install ubuntu UEFI was a black magic task. Thanks for the walk through!
[20:02] <fancyfetus> expedion, I combined two skins to make my own :)
[20:02] <juan_> make the diference disabling IPv6 in Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS?
[20:02] <expedion> I did the sudo apt-get to get gnome, I'm prompted to an installed now where it asks me to configure gdm, I can choose between gdm and lightdm, which one should i chooose?
[20:03] <fancyfetus> expedion, i combined iris light and yellowstone for elementary OS.
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> fancyfetus  are you on elementary now?
[20:03] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: no problem :)
[20:04] <fancyfetus> MonkeyDust, I never was. I really just took the images and spliced them into iris light
[20:04] <expedion> I picked GDM, guess I can't go wrong there haha.
[20:04] <coy_> one sec
[20:04] <fancyfetus> EriC^^, I heard that if you install ubuntu gnome desktop ontop of an existing ubuntu installation you could run into some package conflicts.
[20:04] <fancyfetus> This was 2 years ago though.
[20:04] <juan_> anyone answer my questin :(
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> !patience | juan_
[20:05] <expedion> Time to logout and login to see what gnome is like :) brb.
[20:05] <fancyfetus> expedion, vanilla gnome is fairly ugly :( Prepare to be disappointed.
[20:05] <juan_> oks, thanks MonkeyDust
[20:05] <coy_> joining call now
[20:06] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: hmm, i've no idea
[20:06] <juan_> #quit
[20:06] <juan_> :exit
[20:06] <fancyfetus> oooo installation done. lets see if it worked!
[20:07] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: i tried installing lubuntu once with unity, and it changed the pop ups i got in unity and other stuff, and i ended up removing it
[20:07] <fancyfetus> I booted straight into windows :( No dual boot picker thing
[20:07] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: try the boot menu
[20:08] <fancyfetus> Yeah, I might have windows set as first priority
[20:10] <fancyfetus> All is well :) EriC^^ I have another random 476GB ubuntu partition though.
[20:10] <EriC^^> odd
[20:10] <shazaum> hggdh: que feio hein...
[20:11] <EriC^^> does it boot to the grub menu when you boot the pc?
[20:11] <shazaum> hggdh: mesmo assim, nao vou ficar bravo, quer mais uma piada?
[20:11] <gruntz> Hi. What's wrong with ubuntu and ugly looking tray icons? Like here https://i.imgur.com/YunP4ls.png (second from left) - it's spideroak (qt application)
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> shazaum  yes
[20:11] <fancyfetus> I need to set ubuntu as the 1st priority boot to bring up the grub menu, EriC^^
[20:11] <hggdh> shazaum: you will also get banned here
[20:12] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: oh, ok
[20:12] <expedion> Ok back, how do I uninstall gnome? I used this command to install it: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> gruntz  firstly, try a different !theme
[20:12] <fancyfetus> YOU ARE STUCK WITH IT FOREVER. MUHAHHAHAHA
[20:12] <expedion> I logged in back to unity and it seems to have taken on the font of Gnome :/
[20:13] <fancyfetus> Yeah, that's the sort of stuff I meant about installing one ontop of the other. EriC^^
[20:13] <expedion> Plus Gnome takes considerably more resources to run I noticed.
[20:14] <expedion> Anyone an idea?
[20:14] <EriC^^> expedion: type cat /var/log/apt/history.log and get the packages it installed newly
[20:14] <gruntz> MonkeyDust: what's wrong with theme? it's just icon that doesn't look like native spideroak's one
[20:15] <expedion> Ok done, EriC^^, what's the next step?
[20:15] <EriC^^> paste them in gedit and save
[20:15] <expedion> I just want to uninstall Gnome.
[20:16] <EriC^^> if you just uninstall the package ubuntu-gnome-desktop you'll have other packages leftover
[20:16] <fancyfetus> the package manager that fedora uses is actually pretty nice. It lets you rollback actions
[20:16] <expedion> Hehe EriC^^, moments like these makes me say to people who say this: Linux, really easy to use... as Bullshit haha
[20:17] <expedion> Just a sec, I'll make the file :).
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> gruntz  i was thinking, with a different theme comes a different icon set
[20:17] <fancyfetus> Oh man, there are a lot of things that hardcore linux users will say that I disagree with :P
[20:17] <jhutchins> fancyfetus: In order to do that, the RPM repos have to keep every version of every package, plus metadata.
[20:17] <fancyfetus> I think that Microsoft Word is hands down a better word editor than libre or openoffice
[20:18] <jhutchins> fancyfetus: It's really nice if an update breaks your system, but a pain to maintain.
[20:18] <gruntz> MonkeyDust: spideroak have client in qt, so change of gtk icon theme will not help
[20:18] <jhutchins> fancyfetus: Also makes the local package lists on your machine much bigger.
[20:18] <fancyfetus> jhutchins, ahh. I didn't think it would be so tough to maintain :( They use a different package manager now, right? Man or something.
[20:19] <jhutchins> fancyfetus: It's like dpkg vs. aptitude, rpm is the package manager, they use yum now as the user tool/wrapper.
[20:19] <fancyfetus> ahh
[20:19] <daftykins> i hear even yum is being deprecated
[20:20] <jhutchins> daftykins: It's still in EL7, which came out last year.
[20:20] <expedion> I liked Fedora ALOT, just the support that Ubuntu was lacking in Fedora.
[20:21] <daftykins> yeah but things often remain for transitional purposes, anywho wrong distro so i shall be silent
[20:21] <expedion> Only thing with unity that I kind of have to get used to is the pretentious window controls on the left and the launcher always being on the left.
[20:21] <expedion> They just... wanted to have it their way and put things to the left.
[20:22] <Aqui1a> Hello, is this the official suopport channel for Ubuntu?
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> expedion  it's because, in time, desktop and phone interface will be the same: everything on the left
[20:23] <EriC^^> expedion: open gedit, delete the lines that say Install: ... and leave only the package names
[20:24] <fancyfetus> expedion, yeah I don't like the thing on the left either.
[20:25] <daftykins> Aqui1a: yes.
[20:25] <daftykins> Aqui1a: the clue is in the topic
[20:25] <moss> dpkg: error processing package libapache2-mod-wsgi (--configure):
[20:25] <expedion> Sec EriC^^
[20:25] <moss>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[20:25] <Aqui1a> Could somebody please help. Ubuntu will not load up for me. Firstly, GRUB has stopped counting down from 10 (the autoboot thing), and when I manually hit enter on Ubuntu, it looks like it will load, but only a flashing cursor appears and remains on the screen
[20:25] <moss> I have uninstalled this module and tried to reinstall it and there are _NO ERROR MESSAGES_
[20:25] <EriC^^> !nomodeset | Aqui1a , also try an older kernel
[20:25] <expedion> EriC^^ I sent you a link to the log.
[20:25] <fancyfetus> i also don't like how ubuntu and fedora have inconsistent windowy things. For Fedora it has metacity and gtx
[20:26] <expedion> There's install: only 1 time in the file.
[20:26] <fancyfetus> I wish there would just be one so that theming could be consistent.
[20:26] <tgm4883> moss: have you tried 'dpkg-reconfigure libapache2-mod-wsgi'
[20:26] <EriC^^> expedion: ok, delete whatever is before the packages, and leave only package ..(...) package (.....
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> fancyfetus  there are over 300 active distro's, they all look different
[20:27] <fancyfetus> MonkeyDust, but fedora uses both at the same time!
[20:27] <fancyfetus> some windows applications use gtx and others use metacity
[20:27] <Aqui1a> Eric, would this still apply if it had been working for a long time prior to this issue?
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> fancyfetus  ok, but how big is the fedora .iso?
[20:28] <expedion> EriC^^.... I have no idea what I should do.
[20:28] <Aqui1a> Eric, I started getting this problem seemingly out of nowhere, after months of using Ubuntu just fine
[20:28] <expedion> Could you check the log I sent you? I'm really not that sophisticated with Ubuntu yet.
[20:28] <EriC^^> Aqui1a: yes, a newer kernel or graphics driver does this sometimes
[20:28] <fancyfetus> MonkeyDust, larger than the ubuntu one if I'm not mistaken
[20:28] <Aqui1a> Eric, ok thanks. I'll try to do this
[20:29] <expedion> Let me reboot, maybe that will help put the fonts back into perspective
[20:29] <expedion> Brb.
[20:29] <fancyfetus> I can't access tty from my new installation. I just see a black screen.
[20:29] <EriC^^> Aqui1a: np
[20:29] <derek01> anyone have any ideas relating to my nautilus errors? Im fairly certain this pertains to it : http://pastebin.com/TY6bUDsp
[20:30] <bristot> thanks hggdh o.
[20:31] <daftykins> derek01: test another user
[20:32] <auronandace> derek01: didn't you switch to kde? why are you using nautilus instead of dolphin?
[20:32] <OerHeks> auronandace, he removed kde .. i just read back
[20:33] <derek01> daftykins: same thing under guest session
[20:33] <derek01> auronandace: I gave up on KDE, the only reason I wanted to switch was because of this issue im attempting to resolve now haha
[20:33] <daftykins> ah well, i reckon you nerfed your install.
[20:33] <daftykins> no idea what you've done to that thing.
[20:33] <OerHeks> just reinstall ubuntu-dekstop, should do.
[20:33] <derek01> daftykins: this was happening before I attempted to get KDE working
[20:34] <daftykins> so yeah, your whole install is funky :)
[20:34] <Aqui1a> Eric, do you happen to have a clearer, easier-to-understand set of instructions you could link me too?
[20:34] <derek01> daftykins: un funky it!
[20:34] <derek01> haha jk
[20:34] <auronandace> derek01: you've had quite a few issues, i'd recommend reinstalling from scratch
[20:34] <moss> tgm4883: libapache2-mod-wsgi is broken or not fully installed it says
[20:34] <daftykins> derek01: sure, go reinstall after stability testing :P
[20:34] <wex> hello friends can one of you please suggest a good alternative to pinnacle studio for linux?
[20:35] <fancyfetus> EriC^^, my efi is borked on second boot!!!
[20:35] <auronandace> derek01: though if you really want to persist and you are not too attached to nautilus you could try another file manager (thunar is my favourite, but pcmanfm is also good)
[20:35] <derek01> daftykins: hahaha you wun
[20:35] <fancyfetus> there is no more good ubuntu boot option. I only have two of the weird ubuntu 476GB boot options. EriC^^  :(
[20:36] <moss> like wtf
[20:36] <derek01> OerHeks: when i run apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, its attempting to download 293mb of packages, so im guessing it might be related
[20:36] <EriC^^> Aqui1a: as soon as the pc boots, hold shift to get grub, then press e over ubuntu, then go to the line that says linux /vmlinuz ...... quiet splash , and add nomodeset after quiet splash, then press ctrl+x to boot
[20:36] <Aqui1a> Eric, thanks
[20:36] <fancyfetus> it;s back again.. I'm so confused D:
[20:36] <EriC^^> Aqui1a: to try an older kernel, go to advanced in grub
[20:37] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: that happens a lot
[20:38] <fancyfetus> a new ubuntu boot option is created every time I try to boot into ubuntu...
[20:38] <fancyfetus> is that right?!
[20:38] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: the bios might be hard coded to do that, you can switch the efi files
[20:38] <EriC^^> no, that's odd
[20:39] <EriC^^> if you switch the efi files the bios will think you're booting windows and it will play nice
[20:39] <EriC^^> it's common practice, i've done the same
[20:40] <fancyfetus> how?
[20:40] <Aqui1a> nomodeset didn't work. It's not a completely black screen, it has a flashing white cursor thing in the top left. It stays like this until I have to manually reboot.
[20:40] <gruntz> Hi. What's wrong with ubuntu and ugly looking tray icons? Like here https://i.imgur.com/YunP4ls.png (second from left) - it's spideroak (qt application)
[20:40] <daftykins> Aqui1a: i reckon you want to try an older kernel
[20:40] <EriC^^> Aqui1a: ^
[20:41] <cyrix> exit
[20:41] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: type sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi.backup
[20:42] <curiousx> gruntz: may be that could be solved with another icon theme
[20:43] <fancyfetus> EriC^^, done
[20:44] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: type sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi.backup
[20:45] <fancyfetus> done
[20:45] <EriC^^> type sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[20:46] <moss> Will someone please help me? http://dpaste.com/0ES0W1J
[20:46] <moss> This does not make _any_ sense and is very frustrating because there are no valuable logs.
[20:47] <fancyfetus> done, EriC^^
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> moss  that's a wall of text, it's easier if you described it a bit
[20:48] <moss> MonkeyDust: I installed libapache2-mod-wsgi - then i uninstalled it by mistake, when i try to reinstall it, it FAILS.
[20:48] <daftykins> it's pretty easy, it's a package going on - failing, being removed - erroring (not a problem) then going back on again because the user is unfamiliar with the definition of insanity
[20:48] <daftykins> moss: no it failed to go on the first time
[20:48] <moss> daftykins: I can't find any error logs to correct whatever mistake is being made
[20:49] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: type sudo /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[20:49] <moss> daftykins: the dpaste is just what is going on now
[20:49] <moss> daftykins: any valuable insight is appreciated.
[20:49] <fancyfetus> done, EriC^^
[20:50] <Bashing-om> moss: "dpkg: warning: while removing libapache2-mod-wsgi, directory '/etc/apache2/mods-available' not empty so not removed " // So what is in that directory ?
[20:50] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: type sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/grubx64.efi
[20:51] <moss> Bashing-om: um.. the rest of my mods for apache?!
[20:51] <daftykins> moss: #1, is it disabled in apache? #2 is apache stopped? once you meet those two requirements try again
[20:52] <Bashing-om> moss: I bet, any if them pertain to libapache2-mod-wsgi ?
[20:52] <moss> Bashing-om: Nope.
[20:52] <greenberet123> I have a 5TB partition and I want to repartition it as /boot, /home and scratch ... what is the smoothest way to achieve this?
[20:52] <daftykins> greenberet123: this your RAID mess again?
[20:53] <moss> daftykins: yes it is disabled.
[20:53] <daftykins> moss: that is only one of the parts i mentioned =|
[20:53] <moss> and yes apache is stopped
[20:53] <moss> autoremove still doesnt remove it
[20:53] <greenberet123> daftykins: Yes. I got it to boot thanks to this IRC room :) . Now I want to fix everything, so that it doesnt get screwed again.
[20:54] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: ?
[20:54] <beaky> hello
[20:54] <beaky> how do i add more workspaces
[20:54] <daftykins> moss: since it's tripping up on the mods path, back it up - then delete it yourself and try removal again- then it'll pass the check.
[20:54] <moss> daftykins: a2dismod wsgi (ERROR module doesn't exist!) && service apache2 stop && sudo apt-get autoremove (still produces error)
[20:54] <fancyfetus> sorry, done EriC^^
[20:54] <moss> daftykins: okay.
[20:55] <daftykins> moss: you shouldn't mix sudo use with non-sudo use - a good example of why being root is a bad move when you're new
[20:55] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: np, type sudo nano /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft
[20:55] <fancyfetus> done
[20:57] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: replace bootmgfw.efi with bootmgfw.efi.backup in the line in the middle
[20:57] <moss> daftykins: None of this is helping.
[20:57] <moss> I'll try removing apache2
[20:57] <moss> and everything associated with it
[20:58] <gnu_lennux> moss try with: whereis apache2
[20:58] <moss> ...
[20:58] <moss> what?
[20:58] <fancyfetus> EriC^^, the line that starts with: bootmgfw=$(item_in_dir bootmgfw.efi ... ?
[20:58] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: if the os-prober package gets updated, you'll have to edit again as you are now
[20:58] <moss> gnu_lennux: i am trying to properly install libapache2-mod-wsgi
[20:58] <EriC^^> yes
[20:58] <gnu_lennux> ok
[20:59] <fancyfetus> save?
[20:59] <EriC^^> yeah
[20:59] <daftykins> moss: i don't think that's wise, i wonder if "dpkg -r <package>" will give any different output
[20:59] <fancyfetus> restart?
[20:59] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: no, type sudo update-grub
[21:00] <moss> dpkg: error processing archive libapache2-mod-wsgi (--install):
[21:00] <moss>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[21:00] <moss> LOL
[21:00] <daftykins> sounds like the package is not in your cache folder o0
[21:01] <fancyfetus2> EriC^^. http://paste.ubuntu.com/12257029/
[21:03] <niilos> Hi all !
[21:03] <niilos> I got a network issue
[21:03] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: looks good
[21:03] <daftykins> niilos: oh?
[21:03] <daftykins> is it one for us or one for ##networking ?
[21:04] <niilos> hu
[21:04] <niilos> yeah I guess
[21:04] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: try to restart
[21:04] <fancyfetus> oooo
[21:04] <niilos> I'll try :)
[21:05] <fancyfetus_lapto> EriC^^, "An operating system wasn't found Try disconnecting any drives that don't contain an operating system."
[21:05] <EriC^^> wow
[21:05] <EriC^^> fancyfetus_lapto: try turning secureboot off
[21:07] <moss> daftykins: i was able to successfully remove it using "sudo apt-get purge libapache2-mod-wsgi"  and reinstalling
[21:07] <moss> now it works
[21:07] <moss> what a _crap_ package manager.
[21:08] <fancyfetus_lapto> EriC^^, Turned off
[21:08] <daftykins> moss: i think it's great, i suspect you might have a PPA there doing something funky.
[21:09] <moss> lol.
[21:09] <moss> possibly.
[21:09] <daftykins> moss: but yeah, you were using remove --purge which is a bit pants
[21:09] <EriC^^> fancyfetus_lapto: ok, is it working now?
[21:09] <moss> daftykins: what is the main difference?
[21:09] <daftykins> pass :D
[21:09] <moss> LOL
[21:09] <moss> ITS THE SAME THING
[21:09] <moss> BUT IT DOESNT DO THE SAME THING
[21:09] <daftykins> lets dial back the caps
[21:09] <moss> sorry.
[21:09] <fancyfetus_lapto> EriC^^, i think so. Can I delete all the ubuntu bot entries now??
[21:09] <moss> i am an angry young man.
[21:10] <fancyfetus_lapto> boot*
[21:10] <nedvork2> nedvork2
[21:11] <fancyfetus_lapto> Also, any idea how to enable tty virtual terminals?
[21:11] <awktion> when you're ready i'll leave this here https://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[21:11] <fancyfetus_lapto> I need to install something that i have to disable X for.
[21:11] <EriC^^> fancyfetus_lapto: yeah
[21:11] <EriC^^> fancyfetus_lapto: no idea
[21:11] <EriC^^> is windows booting?
[21:12] <Aqui1a> Hello again, quick question... It's booted me into tty, how to I get to the .... normal interface?
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> Aqui1a  ctrl alt f7
[21:12] <moss> daftykins: thank you regardless, just for making me think :)
[21:13] <Aqui1a> I have, MonkeyDust. It takes me to some boot information, with the last one being 'Restoring resolver state'
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> Aqui1a  ctrl alt f8 maybe
[21:14] <fancyfetus_lapto> EriC^^, not fixed :/ Back to operating system not found
[21:14] <EriC^^> fancyfetus_lapto: did it boot without using the menu after turning secureboot off?
[21:14] <Aqui1a> Anything above F6 does nothing lol MonkeyDust
[21:14] <EriC^^> Aqui1a: try sudo service lightdm restart
[21:14] <fancyfetus_lapto> yeah
[21:14] <EriC^^> fancyfetus_lapto: did you boot into windows before that error?
[21:15] <fancyfetus_lapto> no
[21:15] <fancyfetus_lapto> I boot into ubuntu and the error happened on restart
[21:15] <EriC^^> what laptop do you have?
[21:15] <Aqui1a> unrecognized service, Eric
[21:15] <fancyfetus_lapto> me?
[21:15] <fancyfetus_lapto> oh
[21:15] <EriC^^> Aqui1a: are you using unity?
[21:15] <EriC^^> fancyfetus_lapto: yeah
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> Aqui1a  then ctrl-arrow left, maybe, until you get there
[21:16] <fancyfetus_lapto> EriC^^, I'm on a desktop I build
[21:16] <Aqui1a> Oh I uninstalled it, I didn't reinstall it. I think I'm using Chrome
[21:16] <Aqui1a> Gnome*
[21:16] <fancyfetus_lapto> built*
[21:16] <EriC^^> Aqui1a: try sudo service gdm restart
[21:16] <fancyfetus_lapto> Man... what benefits does UEFI mode even give?!?! How hard would it be for me to just install it in regular mode??
[21:17] <EriC^^> fancyfetus_lapto: see if secureboot turned on again maybe
[21:17] <fancyfetus_lapto> Nope
[21:17] <fancyfetus_lapto> still off
[21:17] <EriC^^> uefi is just the new standard, and it boots faster too
[21:18] <fancyfetus_lapto> I also disabled Fast Boot
[21:18] <EriC^^> ok try booting into ubuntu using the menu and maybe we can see what happened
[21:18] <fancyfetus_lapto> Those weird ubuntu boot entries are still showing up... there are like... 6 or 7 now
[21:19] <NGC3982> Is there any good alternative to nethogs, that does not hog the cpu instead?
[21:19] <NGC3982> With a ten second delay, it uses 15% of my cpu.
[21:19] <fancyfetus_lapto> Every time I boot into ubuntu using the menu, the entry turns into one of the weird ubuntu entries and I can't boot again
[21:19] <EriC^^> try booting using the windows entry
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> !find nethogs
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> NGC3982  what's nethogs?
[21:20] <NGC3982> http://nethogs.sourceforge.net/
[21:20] <fhf> nyone has a clue how to test Ubuntu Desktop Next since ISOs are no longer built at cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-live/
[21:20] <NGC3982> It's a CLI based program that measures bandwith usage for processes.
[21:20] <fancyfetus_lapto> EriC^^, I'm in ubuntu now. Should I go into windows?
[21:20] <EriC^^> fancyfetus_lapto: no
[21:20] <EriC^^> type sudo efibootmgr -v
[21:21] <EriC^^> and ls -lR /boot/efi/EFI
[21:21] <NGC3982> MonkeyDust: ^
[21:22] <fancyfetus_lapto> EriC^^, keyboard wasn't being detected. This is disheartening :(
[21:22] <auronandace> !ubuntu+1 | fhf
[21:22] <maxflax> How to fix a shutdown that instead of shutdown only logs me out?
[21:22] <Aqui1a> Bah, nothing works... I don't know why it won't start :(
[21:22] <EriC^^> Aqui1a: does it say anything in the terminal after sudo service gdm restart?
[21:22] <MonkeyDust> NGC3982  is this usefull (iptraf) http://www.slashroot.in/find-network-traffic-and-bandwidth-usage-process-linux
[21:23] <Aqui1a> I reinstalled lightdm
[21:23] <Aqui1a> and.. then it went straight to that black screen with the flashing white cursor
[21:23] <EriC^^> Aqui1a: try reinstalling gdm
[21:24] <fancyfetus_lapto> EriC^^, my keyboard is no longer being detected in Ubuntu
[21:24] <fancyfetus_lapto> oh nvm
[21:24] <EriC^^> Aqui1a: did gdm used to work?
[21:24] <Aqui1a> I don't know, I've had lightdm and gdm installed. I don't know which one I've been using
[21:25] <fancyfetus> EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=a6qcH7QG
[21:26] <Aqui1a> Holy moly!
[21:26] <Aqui1a> Holy moly it's working!
[21:26] <fancyfetus> EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=rgbRTqRU
[21:26] <Aqui1a> I messed about with lightdm, purged nvidia drivers.. and some other little things I've already forgotten. Booting into Ubuntu normally has worked!
[21:27] <NGC3982> MonkeyDust: I don't think the other alternatives measure processes
[21:27] <Aqui1a> Now that I'm in, Eric^^, is there any way I can do like... a big search for errors or something
[21:27] <Aqui1a> or clean broken files or w/e
[21:28] <Aqui1a> Damnit. I knew it was too good to be true lol...
[21:28] <Aqui1a> As soon as I enter password, I get a little box saying something about report a systme program error
[21:28] <Aqui1a> and now all I have is a desktop
[21:28] <Aqui1a> but... it's progress
[21:29] <cuqa_> hello, just been to your fellas in #debian also
[21:29] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: try sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[21:29] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: and sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[21:29] <cuqa_> i have to demand that lines 120+121 are being removed from here http://pastie.org/private/smcbd4htzkg6wz9ewvflma#13
[21:29] <cuqa_> its /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server
[21:29] <EriC^^> Aqui1a: you can try sudo apt-get -f install
[21:30] <fancyfetus> EriC^^, done
[21:30] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: try sudo efibootmgr -o 0000,0012,0001,000D,000E,000F,0010,0011,0013,0014
[21:30] <auronandace> cuqa_: demand all you want, this is just a support channel, we are not the developers
[21:30] <cuqa_> this is pretty disgusting  because you do not expect your nfs to break sooner or later if you dont explicitly allow localhost in rpcbind or portmap
[21:31] <cuqa_> np, maybe someone is bored and will push a new version to the ubuntu repo
[21:31] <MonkeyDust> cuqa_  you're in the wrong channel
[21:32] <Aqui1a> Eric^^, do you know why my desktop is just blank?
[21:32] <cuqa_> which one is the correct one MonkeyDust
[21:32] <Aqui1a> There's no menus, no icons. Just the default background image and the mouse cursor
[21:33] <EriC^^> Aqui1a: no, you could try apt-cache depends ubuntu-gnome-desktop | awk '/Depends/ {print $2}' | xargs sudo apt-get -y install --reinstall
[21:33] <fancyfetus> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=V7DT4vYY
[21:34] <OerHeks> cuqa_, goto launchpad for those issues, file a bureport?
[21:34] <OerHeks> *bugreport
[21:34] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: ok, you can try deleting the boot menu's that have ubuntu, leave 0014 though
[21:35] <fancyfetus> done
[21:35] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: ok, try restarting
[21:36] <Aqui1a> Alight Eric^^, I don't know what that means but I'll give it a quick Google
[21:36] <Aqui1a> I'm just updating/upgrading atm
[21:36] <fancyfetus> restarting into BIOS,  windows or ubuntu?
[21:36] <EriC^^> choose the windows one
[21:36] <nomic> bios is the pc bios
[21:37] <nomic> not = windows or ubuntu
[21:37] <fancyfetus> nomic, I know. I should have but an oxford comma.
[21:37] <fancyfetus> BIOS, Windows, or Ubuntu*
[21:37] <fancyfetus> EriC^^, no update-grub?
[21:38] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: no
[21:38] <nomic> i had a nasty traumatic experience last time I blew away the microsoft tax / brand new copy of windows -- last time I wrote to dell there was no reply .. had to go through windows 8 to turn EUFI was it, off .. had to look @ the crap
[21:38] <nomic> it was horrible
[21:38]  * nomic was traumatised for weeks
[21:38] <nomic> saw adware, everything
[21:39] <EriC^^> Aqui1a: it will reinstall some of the packages that ubuntu-gnome depends on
[21:39] <Aqui1a> How do you do that, nomic?
[21:39] <nomic>  dunno it was complex
[21:40] <nomic> things hidden in window s8
[21:40] <Aqui1a> Is it everything after apt-cache? The entire line, Eric^^?
[21:40] <EriC^^> Aqui1a: yes
[21:40] <Aqui1a> Thanks, Eric^^ I'll try that once this update finishes... Currently at about 3 minutes lol
[21:41] <fancyfetus_lapto> EriC^^, it worked, but I'm STILL getting those stupid ubuntu boot entries :/
[21:41] <fancyfetus_lapto> One is created everytime I boot into ubuntu
[21:41] <EriC^^> odd
[21:42] <fancyfetus_lapto> is there a way to disable writing to the file or something?
[21:45] <EriC^^> you could add efibootmgr -b $(efibootmgr | awk '$2 ~ /ubuntu/ {print$1}' | cut -c 5-8) -B
[21:45] <EriC^^> to /etc/rc.local
[21:46] <fancyfetus_lapto> will that work 100%?
[21:46] <MonkeyDust> EriC^^  what's the -B ?
[21:46] <EriC^^> MonkeyDust: delete
[21:47] <fancyfetus_lapto> MonkeyDust, every time I boot into ubuntu, my ubuntu boot entry is changed to a useless entry named ubuntu and a new real ubuntu entry is created.
[21:48] <fancyfetus_lapto> I'm on Boot0015 now for the proper ubuntu partition :(
[21:48] <fancyfetus_lapto> uh wait...
[21:48] <fancyfetus> EriC^^, why does it say current is 0000?
[21:48] <fancyfetus> BootCurrent: 0000 Timeout: 1 seconds BootOrder: 0000,0001,000D,0014,0015 Boot0000* Windows Boot Manager	HD(2,e1800,32000,87e5b27a-8e4e-4e06-b44f-ca97ebccc18b)File(\EFI\MICROSOFT\BOOT\BOOTMGFW.EFI)WINDOWS.........x...B.C.D.O.B.J.E.C.T.=.{.9.d.e.a.8.6.2.c.-.5.c.d.d.-.4.e.7.0.-.a.c.c.1.-.f.3.2.b.3.4.4.d.4.7.9.5.}................... Boot0001* Hard Drive 	BIOS(2,0,00)..GO..NO........O.S.a.m.s.u.n.g. .S.S.D. .8.5.0. .E.V.O. .5.0.0.G.B.
[21:48] <fancyfetus> oops.
[21:49] <fancyfetus> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=8Yf8s51k
[21:49] <fancyfetus> 0000 is Windows Boot Manager. Shouldn't I be 0014 or 0015?
[21:49] <EriC^^> fancyfetus_lapto: hmm it won't work if there's more than 1 entry at a time i think
[21:50] <EriC^^> you could add for i in $(efibootmgr | grep "ubuntu.*ACPI" | cut -c 5-8); do efibootmgr -b $i -B; done
[21:50] <EriC^^> that should delete them all and leave the real ubuntu one
[21:50] <Aqui1a> Eric^^, I did that, and I still got the error 'System Program Problem Detected' after the login screen :(
[21:52] <EriC^^> Aqui1a: that happens sometimes
[21:52] <EriC^^> fancyfetus: no 0000 is the windows one
[21:52] <fancyfetus_lapto> yeah, so when it says BootCurrent: 0000 what does that mean?
[21:52] <meLon> I'm reverting `fglrx` to the open source drivers and I'm getting a weird unmet dependencies error:  http://pastie.org/private/q7sevpdyvuqvusp6kqsq  Any suggestions?
[21:53] <Aqui1a> Eric^^, yes but I still keep getting a blank, non-resonsive desktop
[21:53] <EriC^^> fancyfetus_lapto: it means it's booted
[21:53] <fancyfetus_lapto> EriC^^, wont this continuously increase the number of the entry? I'm on 15 right now.
[21:53] <fancyfetus_lapto> couldn't it reach like... FFFF one day?
[21:55] <OerHeks> meLon, i have seen these weird errors before, elementary ?
[21:55] <EriC^^> Aqui1a: try the guest account
[21:55] <EriC^^> fancyfetus_lapto: i dunno
[21:56] <fancyfetus_lapto> EriC^^, can I like.. disable ACPI in bios or something like that?
[21:56] <EriC^^> who knows :D
[21:56] <meLon> Sorry, I'm not sure what you're asking OerHeks
[21:56] <EriC^^> fancyfetus_lapto: not sure
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> meLon  what's the output of  cat /etc/issue
[21:57] <OerHeks> = elementary desktop
[21:57] <Aqui1a> Ok Eric^^, I did that, and the same thing except without the error... No desktop icons/menu, just the default bg image along with the mouse cursor. And, just like with my own account, it logs me out after about 5 seconds.
[21:57] <EriC^^> fancyfetus_lapto: i've no idea about it
[21:57] <Aqui1a> Eric^^, that last bit is new... dunno why it's doing that. D:
[21:58] <meLon> Ubuntu 14.04.3  Interesting, MonkeyDust.  Could have sworn I was on 14.04.2
[21:58] <EriC^^> fancyfetus_lapto: don't you need acpi?
[21:58] <tgm4883> meLon: you've done updates
[21:59] <meLon> Any suggestions, MonkeyDust tgm4883 ?
[22:01] <DF3D2> hi, my ubuntu boots straight to grub, I followed the steps here, but then I end up on an busy box shell where I can't even type https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/776643-how-to-rescue-a-non-booting-grub-2-on-linux/
[22:01] <tgm4883> Isn't reverting to radeon from fglrx just uninstalling fglrx and rebooting?
[22:02] <RevertToType> i have two wifi-related issues, one is that this kiosk-like-machine i set up is actually booting into the kiosk sometimes a bit before the systemd dhclient service i created has run, additionally on a wpa2 personal hidden network my connection drops sporadically
[22:03] <fancyfetus_lapto> EriC^^, hm... it seems to be working alright right now.
[22:04] <EriC^^> fancyfetus_lapto: great
[22:04] <_7oshi> good morning all, it my first time Im running Linux..
[22:04] <fancyfetus_lapto> Does anyone know why my tty is just a black screen?
[22:04] <Aqui1a> Does anyone have any advice? :(
[22:06] <critical1> If anyone can point me to the right channel/forum to get help for this, id greatly appreciate it (https://goo.gl/CSVVzx)
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> critical1  in short, what does it say?
[22:09] <Aqui1a> Could someone please help? Or, let me know where I can get help?
[22:10] <critical1> @MonkeyDust is it hard to summarize. Using aptitude I am unable to apt-get download packages from repositories on the fly (using Dir::Etc::SourceList) because when I have the package installed aptitude wants to find the one I have installed, instead of the latest one in the repo (specified by Dir::Etc::SourceList)
[22:11] <fancyfetus_lapto> Okay... that's it...
[22:11] <Aqui1a> I'm going to go and come back another time
[22:11] <Aqui1a> Thanks for the help anyway
[22:11] <fancyfetus_lapto> I'm running ubuntu in a Virtual machine.
[22:12] <MonkeyDust> critical1  use either aptitude or apt-get ... why do you still use or require aptitude *after* the package was installed?
[22:13] <critical1> im using apt-get download, i dont want to install it, I want the physical .deb package.
[22:14] <critical1> I want to point my sources at => http://myrepo1 testing main, `apt-get download somepackage`, then point to a different source => http://ftp.another testing updates, and get a different package `apt-get download somepackage-dev`.
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> critical1  what are you trying to achieve?
[22:15] <critical1> however when I have any of these packages installed (somepackage, somepackage-dev) on my local machine, apt-get download will not retrieve the file
[22:15] <critical1> I want to download a package by version/architecture from any repository I want
[22:15] <critical1> just point my sources at it
[22:16] <critical1> but without modifying my local machines /etc/apt/sources.list files
[22:16] <critical1> that is why I am using the -o Dir::Etc::SourceList override
[22:16] <Bashing-om> meLon: Before purring and re-installing the dependencies, there is " this may be caused by held packages. " . What results ' sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ' ?
[22:18] <genii> critical1: If it won't install the package with same name over the other package, odds are it's due to the versioning scheme, so it thinks the installed one is newer
[22:18] <critical1> I dont want to install @genii, just download
[22:18] <boris> my machine performed 2 unexpected reboots today. what log can i  check to see what may have caused it
[22:20] <critical1> my link (https://goo.gl/CSVVzx) shows you how to reproduce
[22:22] <Bashing-om> boris: Log files ar in /var/log/ directory. Might pay attention to kern.log and syslog files .
[22:23] <boris> ty Bashing-om
[22:23] <genii> critical1: Try setting APT::Archives::MaxAge "30";  value to 2 and APT::Archives::MinAge "2"; value to 1  in /etc/apt/apt.conf
[22:24] <genii> ( or specify manually with -o flag of apt-get )
[22:25] <critical1> do I need that on the apt-get update as well? or just the apt-get download?
[22:25] <fancyfetus_lapto> What's the very best virtual machine application?
[22:26] <genii> critical1: Just the update
[22:26] <genii> critical1: Or make it universal by putting the values inthe apt.conf
[22:28] <critical1> that did not work
[22:30] <critical1> `E: Can't find a source to download version`
[22:33] <fancyfetus_lapto> wow, there really aren't a lot of good VM applications for windows
[22:34] <fancyfetus_lapto> parallels and fusion are both mac exclusive?
[22:34] <reisio> for windows?
[22:34] <fancyfetus_lapto> yeah
[22:35] <fancyfetus_lapto> I want to run the VM in windows and virtualize linux in it
[22:35] <reisio> fancyfetus_lapto: VirtualBox
[22:36] <OerHeks> or hyperV Azure, http://blog.canonical.com/2012/06/07/official-ubuntu-images-now-available-on-windows-azure/
[22:36] <OerHeks> :_D
[22:37] <reisio> no, that will make your life a hell
[22:37] <critical1> If using virtualbox on W10, use the latest nightly.
[22:37] <reisio> when you're looking for software worth using, try to avoid that which was made available only after it was found out the authors violated a license
[22:38] <Umeaboy> Installing Bumblebee in 15.04 completely freezes my brand new laptop.
[22:38] <Umeaboy> Asus N550JK.
[22:38] <Umeaboy> Hybrid graphics
[22:39] <Umeaboy> Nvidia Optimus.
[22:39] <OerHeks> isn't nvidia-prime current ?
[22:39] <Umeaboy> Any kernel I've tried lower than 4.
[22:39] <Umeaboy> OerHeks: Doesn't that get installed during the installation of Ubuntu?
[22:40] <OerHeks> Umeaboy, yes, i just read it to check. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[22:40] <k1l> Umeaboy: bumblebee is deprecated. nvidia now ships official linux drivers. nvidia-prime that is and it works with the nvidia-current packages
[22:41] <Umeaboy> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehl3t891zqo4yt7/VID_20150902_232501.mp4?dl=0
[22:41] <OerHeks> GF GTX 850M ?
[22:41] <Umeaboy> That's what happens before Bumblebeen is installed.
[22:41] <Umeaboy> OerHeks: Yes.
[22:41] <Umeaboy> Bumblebee.
[22:42] <Umeaboy> k1l: I prefer using xorg's nouveau driver.
[22:42] <k1l> Umeaboy: did you install bumblebee?
[22:42] <k1l> and i mean especial "bumblebee".
[22:42] <Umeaboy> k1l: Yes. That's what killed my entire session.
[22:42] <Umeaboy> It froze completely.-
[22:43] <k1l> Umeaboy: bumblebee is deprecated. it was a interim as long as nividia didnt bring official support with their nvidia driver
[22:43] <changnesia> Hey guys, I changed my graphics card driver and I can only access tty. How can I salvage the situation?
[22:43] <Umeaboy> k1l: Shouldn't bumblebee get removed from the repos then?
[22:43] <k1l> so i would use the nvidia drivers shipped by ubuntu
[22:44] <Umeaboy> k1l: That's what caused the kernel-bug in the movie.
[22:44] <k1l> Umeaboy: you said bumblebee did caus it
[22:44] <gulag2014> I'm trying to add space to my root partition?
[22:44] <Umeaboy> k1l: No. Bumblebee caused my computer to freeze entirely.
[22:45] <Umeaboy> When installing it.
[22:45] <Umeaboy> I had to remove the quiet and splash flags from kernel boot line in GRUB to be able to get X working.
[22:46] <k1l> Umeaboy: so with nvidia driver it works but brings a delay at boot?
[22:46] <Umeaboy> k1l: Yeah.
[22:46] <Umeaboy> With the open source driver version of nouveau.
[22:46] <k1l> Umeaboy: can you show a dmesg or syslog from that boot with nvidia in a pastebin?
[22:46] <Umeaboy> The proprietary version of it works fine.
[22:46] <k1l> Umeaboy: what?
[22:46] <OerHeks> ...
[22:47] <DF3D2> I really need help, did some updates on my ubuntu and now it won't boot, it goes to a grub screen and if I tell it where to find the linux/initrd image it boots to a initramfs screen and I have 0 keyboard control at all
[22:47] <DF3D2> I have no idea what is going on
[22:47] <k1l> Umeaboy: you are mixing all sorts of drivers. so what happens with nvidia driver from ubuntu repo?
[22:47] <Umeaboy> k1l: Well, the installer chooses xorg-driver-video-nouveau as driver.
[22:47] <k1l> Umeaboy: no
[22:47] <k1l> Umeaboy: simple question. simple answer
[22:48] <k1l> Umeaboy: what happens when you use the nvidia driver from the ubuntu repo?
[22:48] <Umeaboy> If I check in System Settings and the Driver tab it IS using it.
[22:48] <Umeaboy> If I choose to use the proprietary driver of nouveau I'm able to start X.
[22:49] <Umeaboy> And then get to the login screen.
[22:50] <k1l> Umeaboy: i still dont understand what the issue is right now exactly
[22:51] <Umeaboy> k1l: Well, if I let the installer choose driver for me (xorg nouveau driver) I get a delayed boot with thoose messages spewing out.
[22:51] <Umeaboy> If I change to use the proprietary version of the nouveau driver all works fine.
[22:52] <Umeaboy> At least to what I can see.
[22:52] <k1l> please call it "nividia driver". it got nothing to do with nouveau. its kind of confusing
[22:53] <k1l> Umeaboy: ok, so the prop. nvidia driver works. what is the issue then when you use that driver?
[22:54] <changnesia> Can you help me with my driver issue? Lightdm won't start, it says unable to connect to upstart
[22:55] <Umeaboy> k1l: http://pastebin.com/1h7bvn3W
[22:55] <Umeaboy> Xorg.log
[22:55] <Umeaboy> So you see it has problem with nouveau.
[22:55] <arcetera> hey
[22:56] <arcetera> I manually updated (through the kernel ppa) to kenel 4.2 final
[22:56] <arcetera> I previously had 4.2rc8
[22:56] <arcetera> The system is still using rc8, how do I switch to final?
[22:56] <k1l> Umeaboy: is that prop. nvidia driver installed when that log was taken?
[22:57] <k1l> arcetera: reboot and choose the new kernel in grub?
[22:58] <Umeaboy> arcetera: Press ESC at bootup.
[22:58] <Umeaboy> Then choose advanced flags.
[22:58] <arcetera> I have GRUB set to start at boot
[22:58] <arcetera> so
[22:58] <Umeaboy> arcetera: Yes, then use it.
[22:58] <OerHeks> shift @ boot
[22:59] <arcetera> Grub just shows "Ubuntu" "Advanced Options" and some other thing I can't remember
[22:59] <arcetera> Advanced Options?
[22:59] <Umeaboy> k1l: No.
[22:59] <Umeaboy> arcetera: Yes.
[22:59] <arcetera> ok rebooting
[22:59] <Tex_Nick> OerHeks: where is the @ boot key ?
[22:59] <k1l> Umeaboy: i dont see an issue in that log, except its not finding the prop. nvidia driver
[23:00] <Umeaboy> Will faillog help you somehow, k1l?
[23:00] <OerHeks> Tex_Nick, next to 'any'
[23:01] <Tex_Nick> lol
[23:01] <Johnny_Linux> he he
[23:01] <k1l> Umeaboy: i would just use the prop. nvidia driver
[23:01] <Umeaboy> k1l: So, uninstalling bumblebee and rebooting then.
[23:02] <Umeaboy> I have to. The choices in the tab are gone.
[23:02] <OerHeks> i agree with k1l, use the nvidia driver, or disable intel in your bios and use nvidia solely.
[23:02] <k1l> Umeaboy: where did bumblebee now come from?
[23:02] <Umeaboy> k1l: I installed it to see if that fixed the delay issue.
[23:03] <OerHeks> bumblebee is EOL, nvidia-prime is current ( but not for the nouveaudriver)
[23:03] <k1l> Umeaboy: read that: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FAQ/#index15h3
[23:04] <k1l> Umeaboy: dont use bumblebee. use nouveau (with most probaply disabling the intel video card in bios) or use the prop. nvidia which works like intended.
[23:04] <arcetera> o
[23:04] <arcetera> *ok
[23:04] <Umeaboy> OerHeks: I think I have to reinstall AND then switch to the proprietary driver (I dislike proprietary stuff).
[23:04] <arcetera> I am now in Kubuntu with kernel 4.2 final booted
[23:04] <arcetera> How do I set kernel 4.2 final as default rather than 4.2rc8
[23:04] <Johnny_Linux> kaboom
[23:05] <Umeaboy> arcetera: Think you should comment the kernels not to use in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[23:05] <OerHeks> arcetera, update your grub maybe?
[23:05] <Umeaboy> Or as OerHeks says.
[23:05] <arcetera> Umeaboy "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE"
[23:05] <arcetera> also I ran update-grub
[23:06] <Umeaboy> os-prober && update-grub
[23:06] <k1l> Umeaboy: that will be overridden when the scripts are run again. so that is not the right way
[23:06] <changnesia> Guys, can I use recovery mode somehow to change my graphics driver to ubuntu's?
[23:06] <Umeaboy> k1l: OK.
[23:06] <Umeaboy> Gotta go.
[23:06] <k1l> changnesia: what driver, what video card
[23:07] <k1l> changnesia: what ubuntu
[23:07] <arcetera> hmm
[23:08] <changnesia> I changed the driver to proprietary and it doesn't want to boot up
[23:08] <changnesia> It's an amd card
[23:08] <changnesia> 15.04
[23:09] <arcetera> It still listed rc8 as first when running os-prober && update-grub as root
[23:09] <k1l> !nomodeset | changnesia
[23:09] <arcetera> also I had to enable the root user for that wow
[23:09] <k1l> changnesia: try this. some cards need that kernel setting, you can try the "one time" solution to test
[23:09] <OerHeks> arcetera, good luck testing :-P
[23:10] <k1l> arcetera: enabling root user is quite the wrong path
[23:10] <changnesia> k1l: thanks will try
[23:10] <k1l> arcetera: fiddeling with unsupported kernels is neither our job in here.
[23:14] <arcetera> selected "Ubuntu"
[23:14] <arcetera> brought me back to 4.2rc8
[23:14] <arcetera> YAY KERNELS
[23:14] <Johnny_Linux> delete it
[23:14] <TJ-> arcetera: I have a patch for GRUB that provides a custom sort order, which I implemented specifically to put -RC kernels at the end of the boot list
[23:15] <arcetera> TJ-: can you send that to me
[23:17] <changnesia> k1l: can I change the drivers from terminal? I can log into i3 but I tried unity before and it didn't let me
[23:17] <arcetera> I moved from Ubuntu to Arch a few weeks ago and surprisingly I am not looking back
[23:18] <TJ-> arcetera: See https://iam.tj/projects/misc/grub2-custom-sort-order.tar.gz
[23:18] <arcetera> *Arch to Ubuntu
[23:18] <arcetera> blah
[23:18] <arcetera> low-maintainance systems praise
[23:19] <k1l> changnesia: yes. but i would try the nomodeset kernel option first. if that works you get a working prop. driver which will be better afterwards
[23:19] <arcetera> overwrite 10_linux TJ-
[23:19] <k1l> arcetera: so thats not a ubuntu at all there?
[23:19] <arcetera> it is
[23:19] <arcetera> blah
[23:19] <arcetera> I typo'd
[23:19] <arcetera> Arch -> Ubuntu
[23:19] <arcetera> not Ubuntu -> Arch
[23:19] <arcetera> ff
[23:20] <TJ-> arcetera: Yes, it adds some code to pick up the function grub_custom_linux_menu_sort from 10_custom_linux_menu_sort
[23:21] <TJ-> arcetera: If you want a diff instead so you can apply a patch, let me know
[23:23] <changnesia> k1l: I'm kind confused, I don't know what to edit
[23:23] <changnesia> Is that in grub or tty?
[23:24] <k1l> changnesia: on the grub booting screen press e to edit the line that grub will start then
[23:25] <k1l> ah, the pictures are gone in that howto. but the text is still valid
[23:25] <arcetera> Thank you TJ-
[23:26] <arcetera> also btw that was Ubuntu
[23:26] <arcetera> I typo'd
[23:27] <changnesia> k1l: I actually don't have any acpi_osi line there. Do i simply add it?
[23:28] <k1l> changnesia: there should be a "splash" or "plymouth" at the end of the line. there you add that nomodeset
[23:29] <changnesia> So i add it after thesplash? I have $vt_handoff there, doileave it or delete it?
[23:30] <k1l> keep it there
[23:30] <changnesia> Or i replace the ro that's in front of it now?
[23:32] <k1l> if that doesnt work with that setup. try to rmeove the vt_handoff and boot that. and if that doesnt work too, try to remove vt_handoff and use nomodeset instead.
[23:36] <changnesia> How do I save it? Ideleted it, but it didn't work soichecked again and the handoff is still there. Iused ctrl x to exit
[23:36] <changnesia> There are no instructions about how to save it on the screen
[23:37] <changnesia> Is this really my problem? Ican get to tty, but my lightdm doesn't want to start
[23:37] <k1l> changnesia: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132   start with the How to temporarily set kernel boot options on an installed OS (not wubi)
[23:38] <k1l> ctrl+x after editing the right way (its explained very detailed in that howto).
[23:38] <k1l> changnesia: i dont have your pc, i dont have a amd card. i dont know what the issue is on your pc. so i suggest a common issue and you to test it. its very detailed instructions.
[23:39] <TJ-> changnesia: If you use the 'text' mode boot (adding 'text' to the kernel command-line) you'll start at the console. From there you can manually test starting the lightdm service, and look at the logs to find out why it fails, with full control (rather than switching VTs at start-up when lightdm has laready failed)
[23:40] <k1l> so again: follow the howto and add nomodeset. if that doesnt work try to remove vt_handoff and boot that. if that doesnt work too try to remove vt_handoff and use nomodeset instead.
[23:40] <k1l> if one of those options work we can make that permanent and have a easy solution and a working pc.
[23:43] <changnesia> Ok, thanks. Nomodeset lets me enter to the greeter and log into i3, but still not unity. Can't I change it back to ubuntu drivers from the terminal for now and get back to it later? Idon't have too much time to pros around right now
[23:43] <changnesia> *prod
[23:44] <derek01> Im ready to shoot my computer in the face lol
[23:44] <k1l> changnesia: sudo apt-get purge fglrx
[23:45] <derek01> Still having an issue with getting anything to drag, ie a folder on the desktop being moved a pixel and it crashes
[23:45] <derek01> and then I have to restart nautilus for icons to come back
[23:45] <klunkymutt> Hey guys, I am having alot of trouble with my laptop. Everything works fine, however when I open any terminal and try to press d, i just get a beep. any thoughts?
[23:46] <derek01> klunkymutt: is d the other button for the arrow? maybe youre attempting to move the cursor to the right and it cant move so it beeps?
[23:46] <klunkymutt> arrow? no, I have a standard keyboard.
[23:46] <derek01> klunkymutt: just my first thought, I know older laptops used the WASD keys as a secondary "numpad"
[23:49] <felixdd> Any suggestions how to work around this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libtool/+bug/1313958?comments=all
[23:50] <klunkymutt_> sorry guys, had to re run my irc
[23:50] <klunkymutt_> so basically i cant use the d button in any terminal application
[23:50] <klunkymutt_> i tried terminal, roxterm, and terminator
[23:51] <klunkymutt_> i just get a beep when i press d
[23:51] <padgaland> dang so you cant even sudo, have you ried hooking up a usb keyboard?
[23:51] <klunkymutt_> no, i dont have one handy right now
[23:51] <derek01> what about using an on screen keyboard, does ubuntu have that available?
[23:51] <klunkymutt_> but i tried unpluigging the ribbon cable and replugging it
[23:51] <CarlFK> klunkymutt_: all other a-z work?
[23:52] <derek01> yea ubuntu has an on screen keyboard, what about that
[23:52] <k1l> klunkymutt_: any shortcuts on that letter?
[23:52] <klunkymutt_> to answer everyone's question, no. no shortcuts for d
[23:52] <padgaland> copy and paste the d?
[23:52] <derek01> klunkymutt_: What version of ubuntu are you running
[23:53] <klunkymutt_> im running 15.04 with gnome
[23:53] <klunkymutt_> tried copy+paste, no dice
[23:53] <derek01> klunkymutt_: im on the same version, go to applications, then universal access, then Onboard
[23:53] <derek01> does the d key on that work?
[23:54] <CarlFK> how do I find what package contains pyversions ?
[23:54] <klunkymutt_> tried onboard, still wont let me press d
[23:54] <klunkymutt_> just beeps
[23:54] <derek01> klunkymutt_: so its for sure software problem. And there are no alias' set up? Quite odd. Sorry cant help much more than that
[23:55] <derek01> I cant that is
[23:55] <klunkymutt_> not sure where i can find those settings
[23:55] <derek01> klunkymutt_: go to terminal
[23:55] <klunkymutt_> did it
[23:56] <derek01> klunkymutt_: wait im sorry, You cant type d to see if its alias'd
[23:56] <klunkymutt_> by that i mean i am in terminal
[23:56] <derek01> you would need to type "type d"
[23:56] <derek01> you cant paste that from here even?
[23:56] <k1l> look into the .bashrc in the home
[23:56] <klunkymutt_> no i cant
[23:57] <klunkymutt_> im in bashrc
[23:57] <klunkymutt_> now what
[23:57] <k1l> see if there is an alias
[23:57] <k1l> did you reboot inbetween?
[23:57] <klunkymutt_> yeah
[23:58] <klunkymutt_> no alias
[23:58] <k1l> you could check with "alias" in terminal too
[23:58] <EriC^^> if you get a beep on just pressing it i dont think it would be an alias
[23:58] <klunkymutt_> yeah no alias
[23:58] <derek01> klunkymutt_: "bind -p | less" will show you if its bound to a key also. Can you press "shift - d"  to key a capital letter?
[23:59] <EriC^^> do you get a beep after pressing enter or just on pressing?
[23:59] <klunkymutt_> just when i press it
[23:59] <klunkymutt_> shift + d works
[23:59] <EriC^^> try the bind derek01 is suggesting
[23:59] <klunkymutt_> i cant press d
[23:59] <klunkymutt_> binD
[23:59] <CarlFK> klunkymutt_: what about caps lock then shift d?
[23:59] <EriC^^> copy and paste it