| ahoneybun | seems my laptop is broken... | 01:43 |
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| valorie | what's going on with your lappy, ahoneybun? | 04:49 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 05:30 |
| soee | good morning | 06:19 |
| * palasso hugs Riddell | 06:25 | |
| sitter | :O | 07:06 |
| sitter | doko: did kdepim get through proposed on its own now or did someone give it a final poke? | 07:08 |
| sitter | Riddell: kmix is red btw https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kmix/4:15.08.0-0ubuntu1 | 07:12 |
| doko | sitter, overwrote a hanging autopkg test, but zenshin and akonadi1 were the two last bits | 07:25 |
| sitter | groovy | 07:25 |
| sitter | doko: thanks for your help on this | 07:25 |
| doko | sitter, next time, please write transition files. the time you spend with that is easily saved later ;) | 07:27 |
| * soee reads http://jriddell.org/2015/09/02/jonathan-riddell-ip-policy/ :) | 07:27 | |
| sitter | deadhorsealert.jpeg | 07:30 |
| sitter | doko: do you have a documentation pointer for writing transition files? | 07:30 |
| doko | sitter, https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ReleaseTeam/TransitionTracker https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-transition-tracker/ | 07:35 |
| valorie | Riddell: LOL | 07:35 |
| sitter | doko: thanks | 07:35 |
| valorie | {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} | 07:35 |
| sitter | Riddell: kubuntu-meta will need update to get rid of now missing kdepim-kresources | 07:39 |
| sitter | Riddell: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/wily_unstable_rocs/lastFailedBuild/console | 07:50 |
| Riddell | sitter: doing.. | 07:57 |
| Riddell | done! which also added plasma-pa | 08:13 |
| * kfunk notes: kontact 5 is a bit broken/crashy | 08:18 | |
| sitter | !info libqextserialport wily | 08:38 |
| ubottu | Package libqextserialport does not exist in wily | 08:38 |
| sitter | libqextserialport (for marble) - clivejo - Can get it to build locally, but wont upload to LP | 08:38 |
| sitter | Riddell: can you help clivejo sort the packaging of that? | 08:38 |
| Riddell | I'll e-mail him | 08:39 |
| * sitter sent mail about pim stack | 08:42 | |
| === sitter changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Plasma 5.4 work in progress. Will be ready soon. | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | apps 15.08 https://goo.gl/KFMF4F | 5.4 http://goo.gl/XrOhvc | ||
| sitter | sgclark: ping | 08:53 |
| soee | sitter: @topic "Plasma 5.4 work in progress. Will be ready soon" isn't it ready and in Wily? | 09:00 |
| sitter | yes | 09:02 |
| sitter | someone needs to get on those backports though | 09:02 |
| maxyz | sitter: On the Debian side of kdepim, I'm planning to keep kdepim 4.14.10 in unstable and play with the plasma 5 version in experimental till it can replace the kde4 version. | 09:03 |
| maxyz | ScottK: ^ | 09:04 |
| sitter | maxyz: that does seem very reasonable | 09:08 |
| maxyz | You are planning to maintain co instabillability till 16.04 ? | 09:09 |
| sitter | maxyz: we are already not providing co-installability. there is no data migration going on between the two runtimes so any data put into the old kdepim would be lost anyway | 09:11 |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu: free to share, copy and modify | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | ||
| Riddell | maxyz: can you explain to me the purpose of networkmanager-qt debian/tests/acc ? I don't see an existing acc build to compate anything against so I think it's pointless? | 09:27 |
| maxyz | Riddell: Currently, it tests that the headers compile, that helps finding out missing deps in the -dev package | 09:27 |
| sitter | Riddell: didn't I already tell you how to fix the acc? | 09:28 |
| Riddell | maxyz: isn't that done at build time? | 09:28 |
| Riddell | maxyz: oh it uses the -dev I see | 09:28 |
| Riddell | sitter: yes and it got further by removing libnm-utils but still seems to fail, I"m investigating | 09:29 |
| chalker_ | Can I get the source svg behind http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/47Eeknz.png? | 09:29 |
| chalker_ | I'm assuming that's based on Vibrant? | 09:29 |
| chalker_ | Could someone please tell me the offsets in the original file? | 09:29 |
| Riddell | chalker_: I doubt there's any svg, it's just word kubuntu put on top of the plasma wallpaper | 09:29 |
| maxyz | I used to store the acc dumps in my build machine but it was a bunch of shameful hackery and the checks were mostly useless | 09:30 |
| chalker_ | Riddell: what are the offsets there? | 09:30 |
| Riddell | chalker_: no idea | 09:30 |
| chalker_ | Riddell: I know about the plasma wallpaper, I have a source svg for that one. | 09:30 |
| sitter | that acc test should really create an artifact with the actual output, no? | 09:30 |
| sitter | impossible to debug with the output it generates | 09:30 |
| chalker_ | Riddell: My eyes bleedwhen I look at that image… | 09:31 |
| maxyz | sitter: It generates a logs dir in the running directory | 09:31 |
| chalker_ | It's got both banding and noise, and the lines are aliased. | 09:31 |
| sitter | maxyz: somehow they don't end up in the artifacts tarball of ubuntu's autopkgtest though, so I suppose they need to be moved somewhere special | 09:31 |
| sitter | http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/n/networkmanager-qt/wily/amd64/ | 09:31 |
| chalker_ | Riddell: Ok. Another question: what was the size of the original wallpaper? | 09:32 |
| sitter | chalker_: I am willing to wager that it wasn't vector drawn but pixel drawn | 09:32 |
| chalker_ | If that's based on a png file, I mean. | 09:32 |
| chalker_ | sitter: The foreground is fine, the background is bad. | 09:33 |
| chalker_ | I have the svg file of the background. | 09:33 |
| chalker_ | Just tell me the size that you need. | 09:33 |
| Riddell | chalker_: that wallpaper is ancient history, the new one has some details here https://kver.wordpress.com/2015/07/21/new-artwork-coming-in-5-4-the-tale-of-a-troublesome-wallpaper/ | 09:34 |
| maxyz | sitter: the running directory for the autopkgtest is the uncompressed package directory. I have no idea which dirs you are keeping. It should be trivial to simply cat all the logs on error. | 09:35 |
| sitter | chalker_: I do not even know who made that banner. ovidiu-florin or ahoneybun might know. and as Riddell indicated, IMO the banner should be redone with new wallpaper anyway s you couldjust go crazy with it ^^ | 09:35 |
| chalker_ | Ah, ok. | 09:35 |
| chalker_ | I already re-rendered the new wallpapers. | 09:35 |
| sitter | maxyz: let me ask, but cat-on-errorr seems like a reasonable approach | 09:35 |
| chalker_ | I thought that you wanted the old one. | 09:36 |
| chalker_ | If you want the Vibrant wallpaper, I could re-render that one. | 09:36 |
| sitter | maxyz: oh btw, what I wanted to ask a while ago. I recall that the python and ruby teams came up with autopkgtest meta-packages that somehow contain common files to provision testing on any standard python/ruby package. have you looked into that at all? | 09:37 |
| sitter | the copy-n-paste of debian/tests in all the kf5 packages is really meh considering 99% of the time they require exactly the same stuff anyway | 09:37 |
| maxyz | sitter: Something like: ret=$?; if [ 0 -ne $ret ]; then find logs -type f -print -exec cat '{}' ';'; fi; exit $ret | 09:38 |
| sitter | chalker_: I don't think anyway would be ungrateful about awesome new artwork instead of awesome old artwork :) | 09:38 |
| sitter | maxyz: <pitti> sitter: yes, absolutely; see https://people.debian.org/~mpitt/autopkgtest/README.package-tests.html , your test can put anything into the $ADT_ARTIFACTS dir, and it'll appear in the "artifacts.tar.gz" from autopkgtest.u.c. | 09:40 |
| chalker_ | sitter: Could you re-phrase that one, please? =) | 09:40 |
| sitter | maxyz: depending on how big the logs dir is we could simply log into the artifacts directory | 09:41 |
| sitter | chalker_: go ahead and make with the new wallpaper | 09:42 |
| sitter | actually | 09:42 |
| sitter | Riddell: how about we use the new wallpaper for 15.10? | 09:42 |
| Riddell | sitter: for the website banner? that makes sense | 09:42 |
| sitter | chalker_: what you could do is re-render the banner with the old wallpaper for Kubuntu 15.04. and do a new banner with the new wallpaper saying Kubuntu 15.10 | 09:43 |
| sitter | that would be super awesome then :) | 09:43 |
| Riddell | yep | 09:43 |
| mamarley | That wallpaper looks pretty awesome on a 4k monitor. :) | 09:43 |
| chalker_ | sitter: I am not good at doing banners, sorry =). I just re-rendered kde wallpapers to remove banding and aliasing. | 09:44 |
| chalker_ | But only the two last ones. | 09:44 |
| chalker_ | So I was asking you if you need the old one fixed. | 09:44 |
| sitter | ah yes probably | 09:45 |
| sitter | chalker_: you'll still need to talk to ovidiu-florin or ahoneybun to find out who has the sources for the banner though | 09:46 |
| soee | ovidiu-florin, ahoneybun, ricktimmis: great talk in podcast #4 ! | 09:46 |
| chalker_ | sitter: If it's png-based, I will just make you png files. | 09:48 |
| === james is now known as Guest95617 | ||
| === sitter changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | apps 15.08 https://goo.gl/KFMF4F | ||
| Riddell | sitter: not like the new topic? | 09:55 |
| yofel | sitter is a minimalist | 09:56 |
| sitter | yeah | 09:57 |
| chalker_ | sitter, Riddell: It looks like that was 3200x2000 wallpaper. | 10:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | chalker_: If we're to replace the old one, I don't see the point in fixing it | 10:31 |
| ovidiu-florin | anyhow ahoneybun is the one who made it | 10:31 |
| maxyz | Riddell, sitter: networkmanager-qt's 80d795b1c503fc9bf47539012017bd521116989b, Copy the acc logs to the adt artifacts. | 10:36 |
| sitter | cool beans thanks | 10:40 |
| sitter | maxyz: should be copied as acc-logs maybe? | 10:40 |
| sitter | or do we havemore than acc in there? | 10:40 |
| maxyz | Just the acc output, possibly intermixed with whatever was already in the logs dir. | 10:42 |
| sitter | hm | 10:44 |
| sitter | maxyz: so yeah, why not simply log to the artifact directory directly? ^^ | 10:44 |
| maxyz | sitter: how? | 10:45 |
| sitter | maxyz: I don't see how stuff ends up in logs/ to begin with so I can't really say | 10:47 |
| sitter | ah well, something to look into eventually | 10:48 |
| sitter | Riddell: uploading with acc change | 10:48 |
| sitter | uploaded and pushed | 10:49 |
| maxyz | It's the abi-compliance-checker -q behavior, it can be changed with a <log-path></log-path> entry in the acc file but you'll to mangle it to expand the env var. | 10:49 |
| sitter | ah | 10:51 |
| sitter | maxyz: so yeah, I'd `cp logs -r ${ADT_ARTIFACTS}/acc-logs` to have it reflect that this is acc output and probably add an exit handler to rm -rf logs/ | 10:53 |
| maxyz | sitter: The exit is done by adt, afaik | 10:54 |
| sitter | even better then | 10:54 |
| maxyz | 9350e598e780a2d7c46481f7c56e0b2ad7b0d563 for the directory name. | 10:56 |
| sitter | cheers | 10:58 |
| clivejo | hummmm apparently make a zip doesnt work in my dolphin either! | 11:14 |
| chalker_ | ovidiu-florin: Just in case: http://oserv.org/files/kde/wallpaper-vibrant/desktopWallpaper-vibrant-1.3-kvermette.splitnoise.svg.out.x4.optipng.advdef/images/3200x2000.png | 11:16 |
| clivejo | ahhhhh | 11:26 |
| clivejo | dolphin-plugins was not installed | 11:26 |
| clivejo | I guess I need that for thumbnails and zipping up files | 11:26 |
| maxyz | the zip files aren't managed by ark? (good) | 11:27 |
| clivejo | maxyz: im not sure | 11:28 |
| clivejo | I used to have a Compress item in my menus | 11:28 |
| clivejo | but its gone | 11:28 |
| sitter | dolphin-plugins has nothing to do with that though | 11:31 |
| clivejo | sitter: yeah, but it solved my thumbnails problem | 11:35 |
| sitter | literally makes no sense :P | 11:36 |
| sitter | clivejo: do you have the install list? | 11:36 |
| clivejo | sitter: do you know what I need to install to get back the Compress and Extract menus? | 11:36 |
| sitter | might be that plugins pulle din something else | 11:36 |
| sitter | kio-extras probably | 11:36 |
| sitter | either that or ark | 11:36 |
| sitter | I am guessing former though | 11:36 |
| clivejo | both are installed | 11:37 |
| sitter | then I dunno | 11:37 |
| Riddell | clivejo: can you send us your qserialext thing packages? | 11:38 |
| clivejo | I sent it on an email | 11:38 |
| Riddell | clivejo: hmm not got it here | 11:38 |
| clivejo | Riddell: its probably a load of rubbish | 11:38 |
| clivejo | Riddell: did you get my last email? | 11:39 |
| sitter | maxyz: it uses ark after all btw | 11:39 |
| sitter | clivejo: I think there is a bug in ark | 11:40 |
| sitter | ark: /usr/share/kservices5/ServiceMenus/ark_servicemenu.desktop | 11:40 |
| sitter | that file should provide the service menu itseems | 11:40 |
| clivejo | I assume DCC doesnt work here either :/ | 11:41 |
| clivejo | Riddell: Kmail says the email was sent with an attached file, libqextserialport.tar.gz | 11:43 |
| sitter | clivejo: file a bug on bugs.kde.org against ark | 11:43 |
| sitter | to me it looks like the servicemenu desktop file is wrong | 11:43 |
| sitter | it has ServiceTypes=KonqPopupMenu/Plugin | 11:43 |
| sitter | but shoudl be ServiceTypes=KFileItemAction/Plugin | 11:44 |
| clivejo | my system is being very unstable and not bing nice to me today | 11:44 |
| clivejo | I think Ive broke my system | 11:51 |
| clivejo | plasma-shell is going crazy and not responding | 11:52 |
| Riddell | my X server keep dying every 2 hours :( | 12:01 |
| * Riddell packages plasma 5.4.1 | 12:04 | |
| ahoneybun | Error gettin authority: error initializing authority | 12:05 |
| ahoneybun | I get this when running a fsck test in recovery mode | 12:05 |
| ahoneybun | as I can no longer boot | 12:05 |
| yofel | "no longer boot" ? | 12:09 |
| sitter | Riddell: nmqt artifacts now have acc logs | 12:09 |
| sitter | /usr/include/KF5/NetworkManagerQt/networkmanagerqt/ipconfig.h:29:24: fatal error: nm-version.h: No such file or directory | 12:10 |
| sitter | what the | 12:10 |
| sitter | libnm-dev:amd64: /usr/include/libnm/nm-version.h | 12:10 |
| * sitter wonders if libnm shouldn't be in the -I list | 12:10 | |
| yofel | uh, didn't the rebuild against the new NM fix that o.O? | 12:11 |
| sitter | well | 12:12 |
| sitter | well | 12:12 |
| yofel | right ^^ | 12:12 |
| sitter | Riddell broke it while fixing it | 12:12 |
| yofel | lol | 12:12 |
| sitter | I think I even told him to watch out | 12:12 |
| sitter | [Dienstag, 01. September 2015] [16:28:47 CEST] <sitter> and don't forget to update the -dev Depends to libnm-dev | 12:13 |
| sitter | Riddell: "update" is not the same as "remove" :P | 12:13 |
| * sitter diffs against master | 12:14 | |
| soee | ahoneybun: what is going on with your system that you can't boot ? | 12:15 |
| ahoneybun | soee: idk I updated during the show yesteryday and then took it out later to a non booting system | 12:16 |
| ahoneybun | I can get to tty sometimes when I boot from the recovery mode | 12:16 |
| ahoneybun | I think something to do with UUID | 12:16 |
| ahoneybun | idk tbh | 12:16 |
| ahoneybun | anyway g2g to work bbl | 12:16 |
| sitter | Uploading networkmanager-qt_5.13.0-0ubuntu6.dsc: done. | 12:16 |
| sitter | Riddell: ^ should fix ACC | 12:17 |
| yofel | ahoneybun: you have nvidia right? | 12:17 |
| yofel | I had a X segfault with 355.06 yesterday, had to prime-select intel to get anything working | 12:17 |
| soee | ahoneybun: maybe something similar i had | 12:17 |
| yofel | didn't try 355.11 yet | 12:17 |
| ahoneybun | mmm | 12:17 |
| soee | yofel: don't boot to sddm usualy | 12:17 |
| yofel | soee: I had a X segmentation fault when it tried to start sddm | 12:18 |
| soee | ahoneybun: check .Xauthority user and group | 12:18 |
| ahoneybun | it had dr something permissons | 12:18 |
| ahoneybun | but I have to go really | 12:18 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: yea nvidia | 12:18 |
| soee | yofel: yup after this latest nvidia update it seems liek it doesn't work anymore on my laptop when using nvidia profile | 12:19 |
| soee | on intel profile all works fine | 12:19 |
| yofel | right | 12:20 |
| soee | but .. i think if i switch profile from nviodia-settings and relogin nvidia is used | 12:27 |
| soee | reboot makes it fail | 12:27 |
| yofel | interesting, I'll try that here later | 12:29 |
| yofel | actually | 12:32 |
| yofel | mamarley: did you guys hit something like ^ | 12:32 |
| mamarley | yofel: Huh? | 12:33 |
| yofel | mamarley: X segfault with nvidia 355.06 on optimus | 12:33 |
| yofel | intel works | 12:33 |
| soee | 355.11 i think | 12:33 |
| soee | previous worked fine | 12:34 |
| yofel | I still had 355.06 when it happened | 12:34 |
| yofel | so maybe it's not the driver... | 12:34 |
| soee | :/ | 12:34 |
| soee | sddm ? | 12:34 |
| soee | there was some update in last days | 12:34 |
| mamarley | It is likely a problem with the driver itself; I don't see how mis-packaging it could cause a segfault like that. | 12:34 |
| yofel | probably something in the driver or something related | 12:35 |
| yofel | was just curious if you had heard about it | 12:35 |
| mamarley | Nope, this is the first time. My recommendation would be to make a post at https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/board/98/linux/, maybe aaronp will help you out. :) | 12:35 |
| yofel | thanks | 12:36 |
| soee | yofel: ahoneybun said that switching to intel helped him also | 12:37 |
| yofel | :/ | 12:37 |
| soee | so we have the problem with nvidia confirmed in 3 user now | 12:37 |
| Riddell | clivejo: still no e-mail, can you send them by some other means? | 13:13 |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | apps 15.08 https://goo.gl/KFMF4F | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.4.1_wily.html | ||
| soee | why 5.4.1 so quickly ? | 13:17 |
| Riddell | just the way the weeks landed | 13:19 |
| soee | is there some changlog available ? | 13:20 |
| Riddell | https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.4.0-5.4.1-changelog.php | 13:21 |
| clivejo | Riddell: Im having big problems at the moment | 13:21 |
| clivejo | plasma-shell is refusing to work for me | 13:21 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy folks | 13:22 |
| clivejo | it seems to throw a whobbley everytime I click the Kickoff button to open the full page menu | 13:23 |
| clivejo | and I cant fix it now cause Im about to go out the door | 13:24 |
| BluesKaj | cli the full page menu froze my desktop toyally had to use RESUB to get out of it, then I removed plasma-desktop and kubuntu-desktop and re-installed them because the fancy full screen kicker doesn't work | 13:26 |
| BluesKaj | phooey | 13:27 |
| BluesKaj | I'm reluctant to try the full screen launcher agin in case it still isn't fixed even after several large upgrades since | 13:29 |
| pursuivant | muon (Plasma/5.4) v5.4.0-5-g11883b9 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml/MuonToolbar.qml | 14:15 |
| pursuivant | Use the correct icon for the application menu | 14:15 |
| pursuivant | http://commits.kde.org/muon/11883b994d90300be535e8c4d69bee11e66f73ab | 14:15 |
| sitter_ | Riddell: I am out. won't be around tomorrow. next week randa so limited availability I suppose. keep an eye on KCI plz. kthxbai | 15:10 |
| sitter_ | also if sgclark can make enough time I think I'll try to come up with a jenkins driven release workflow next week | 15:11 |
| sitter_ | i.e. eliminate the upload automation and handle all that thru jenkins | 15:11 |
| pursuivant | muon (master) v5.4.0-27-g09a944e * Aleix Pol: (3 files in 2 dirs) | 15:21 |
| pursuivant | Merge branch 'Plasma/5.4' | 15:21 |
| pursuivant | http://commits.kde.org/muon/09a944e34e2f1ad0cf6fe2a9a71b3fc513e2a8e3 | 15:21 |
| pursuivant | muon (master) v5.4.0-28-g720c49d * Aleix Pol: notifier (2 files) | 15:21 |
| pursuivant | Delay updates notification | 15:21 |
| pursuivant | No need to automatically show the notification, we delay it 3' so that we | 15:21 |
| pursuivant | can avoid peak moments in the system, such as boot or frequent internet | 15:21 |
| pursuivant | connection drops. | 15:21 |
| pursuivant | http://commits.kde.org/muon/720c49df7640d701840ba55b46613683f6fc1205 | 15:21 |
| === greyback_ is now known as greyback|eod | ||
| soee | Riddell: safe to remove http://paste.ubuntu.com/12265032/ ? | 17:56 |
| soee | Plasma 5.4.1 ready for tests http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.4.1_wily.html ? | 18:02 |
| ronnoc | Having constant crash issues in a fully-updated Beta install to metal. I've installed every Plasma-related dbg package I could find, to no avail. Anything I can do to help get this properly reported? or should I test 5.4.1 before even trying? | 18:06 |
| soee | what crash ? | 18:07 |
| ronnoc | Just generic Plasma crashes saying Plasma closed unexpectidly. Can't get a backtrace though all dbg symbols are installed. | 18:08 |
| ronnoc | it self-restarts nearly every time, it's jsut annoying, obviously. Happens about every 5-10 mins. | 18:08 |
| soee | never seen such problem :/ | 18:10 |
| snele | ronnoc: it works fine for me too | 18:10 |
| snele | and i have proposed and all staging ppas enables (they should brake something ;) ) | 18:11 |
| ronnoc | I just want to help get it reported properly. It's a purely stock, fresh install. And yes, you're living on the edge snele :) | 18:12 |
| snele | ronnoc: for me dolphin crashes from time to time | 18:14 |
| snele | ronnoc: but never had plasma crash | 18:15 |
| soee | Riddell: plasma 5.4.1 tested, smooth upgrade. | 18:15 |
| ronnoc | Mine says Plasmashell segfault :/ | 18:16 |
| snele | ronnoc: maybe its time for clean (re)install? at one moment my wily installation was so broken that i had to reinstall. now it works great | 18:16 |
| ronnoc | snele: maybe, but this install was a few hours ago. Though as you likely know, there were a LOT of updates since the beta was finalized. | 18:18 |
| * ronnoc wonders if it's related to the new Intel kernel drivers... | 18:18 | |
| mamarley | I have had kdeinit crash a number of times, which dumps me back out to SDDM. It always happens after I unlock the system. | 18:18 |
| clivejo | soee: have you a link to the Plasma 5.4.1 changelog? | 18:21 |
| soee | clivejo: chekc history, Riddell posten it ealier today :) | 18:22 |
| clivejo | soee: I cant, I wasnt logged in earlier when this was posted | 18:22 |
| soee | and i'm on different machine :D | 18:22 |
| ronnoc | Just happened again "Executable: plasmashell PID: 2498 Signal: Segmentation fault (11) Time: 9/3/15 14:22:02" :/ | 18:22 |
| soee | and i don't remember the link :( | 18:23 |
| clivejo | had problems with plasma and had to sort out a car | 18:23 |
| clivejo | did Riddell get my email with tar attached | 18:23 |
| genii | I'm pretty sure he said something like email was not working | 18:25 |
| snele | ronnoc: if that is your test partition/system, enable proposed and maybe stagging ppas to see if that helps | 18:25 |
| snele | i don't know if 5.4.1 realise is in proposed or in staging | 18:26 |
| snele | but i got it and it works good | 18:26 |
| snele | :) | 18:26 |
| ronnoc | It's aproduction machine, but tonight I can re-install on a spare drive and enable those for testing. | 18:26 |
| ronnoc | snele: That's good to hear :) | 18:27 |
| snele | ronnoc: i have boring and rock stable 14.04 as main system and one partition for testing/playing :))) | 18:28 |
| snele | but 15.10 work so well for me I'll probably switch to plasma 5 in october | 18:28 |
| snele | no crashes at all (exept kwin crash but i fixed it, it was nvidia related) | 18:29 |
| yofel | clivejo: https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.4.0-5.4.1-changelog.php | 19:00 |
| ahoneybun | mmm we need someone handling the Kubuntu user group on Linkenin | 19:02 |
| ahoneybun | they need some answers | 19:02 |
| ahoneybun | on our future | 19:02 |
| soee | oh interesting, now after updates i have the same situation as ronnoc mentioned | 19:03 |
| soee | every ~10 min plasmashell crashes and restarts | 19:03 |
| ronnoc | soee: You'll likely find that the longer you're loggin in, the rate will accellerate | 19:03 |
| ronnoc | until at some point it's incapable of restarting | 19:04 |
| soee | yeah just second tome crash | 19:05 |
| clivejo | soee: on plasma 5.4.1? | 19:15 |
| soee | i doubt it's related to plasma 5.4.1 | 19:16 |
| soee | more likely to pim | 19:16 |
| soee | ronnoc: info form Plasma devels by looking at my stack trace: "that's a crash in the intel i65 mesa driver" | 19:26 |
| soee | back, plasma just died :) | 19:29 |
| clivejo | again? | 19:43 |
| soee | yes, i tried to disable compositor for sullscreen windows ;) | 19:46 |
| soee | but now since the crash all is fine | 19:46 |
| soee | yofel: now it is impossible to switch to nvidia provile through nvidia-settings :/ | 19:52 |
| soee | meh, command line switch also doesn't work :< | 19:54 |
| blaze | oh crap, where did all akonadi resources go? | 19:54 |
| blaze | are you testing anything before upgrade? | 19:55 |
| blaze | worst distro ever | 19:55 |
| yofel | what a bug report... | 19:56 |
| soee | :D | 19:57 |
| soee | worst distro but this one was the best user ever :D | 19:57 |
| valorie | lol | 19:59 |
| valorie | I guess I should upgrade the wily box | 19:59 |
| valorie | on the Worst Distro Ever | 19:59 |
| yofel | XD | 19:59 |
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| soee | valorie: some strange crashes today | 20:01 |
| valorie | well, I don't have proposed and such enabled | 20:01 |
| soee | nor do i | 20:01 |
| ronnoc | I'm still getting them. Are you soee? | 20:01 |
| soee | ronnoc: not since ~40 min but i did relogin 2 or 3 times ahen trying to activate nvidia :) | 20:02 |
| ronnoc | hmm | 20:02 |
| soee | ronnoc: maybe it is related to some part of plasma we are using and doing something with it | 20:03 |
| valorie | so how did you induce the crashes? | 20:06 |
| valorie | all good here so far | 20:06 |
| soee | valorie: no idea plasmashell just crashed and restarted itself right away twice for me before | 20:06 |
| valorie | wow | 20:06 |
| soee | 3 time it died when i was playgin with compositor settings | 20:07 |
| valorie | ok, watching the podcast interviews on it | 20:07 |
| soee | podcast interviews ? | 20:07 |
| ahoneybun | so setting the intel card seems to fix the issue soee | 20:07 |
| ronnoc | ahoneybun: can you elaborate? | 20:08 |
| soee | ahoneybun: yes, but i can't switch now to nvidia :D | 20:08 |
| valorie | soee: see the podcast channel | 20:08 |
| valorie | that little laptop does have intel, but I did nothing special | 20:09 |
| ahoneybun | ronnoc: something that soee, yofel and I have in common, NVIDIA+Intel cards | 20:09 |
| ahoneybun | soee: mmm odd | 20:09 |
| valorie | simplicy rulez | 20:09 |
| soee | weee plasma crashed :) | 20:09 |
| yofel | "We are sorry, plasma closed unexpectedly" | 20:09 |
| ronnoc | ok was hoping for something that could lead me to the cause of my chronic crashes :/ | 20:09 |
| yofel | and I didn't even update yet | 20:10 |
| valorie | huh | 20:10 |
| * ahoneybun needs to reboot in a few | 20:10 | |
| soee | ;D | 20:10 |
| yofel | WTF | 20:10 |
| yofel | #6 0x00007f002696fc3c in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so | 20:10 |
| soee | looks liek Plasma 5 has fancy AI and it communicate with all devices and crahes it randomly :) | 20:11 |
| * ronnoc is uninstalling Intel firmware to see if that helps | 20:12 | |
| ronnoc | brb | 20:12 |
| snele | hmmm seems that plasma is rock stable for me. but i have proposed and staging enabled, and I am on nvidia | 20:18 |
| soee | i need someone on Plasma 5.4.0 to test one thing | 20:20 |
| ronnoc | soee: I can try if my machine stays up long enough | 20:23 |
| soee | ronnoc: just check in dolphin if it shows icon for .sql files | 20:23 |
| valorie | excellent here.... | 20:27 |
| * ahoneybun reboots and grabs food ;) | 20:29 | |
| ahoneybun | mm rebooted just fine | 20:33 |
| soee | wee crash :) | 20:35 |
| * ahoneybun wonders when we will not have 2 volume things lol | 20:36 | |
| soee | remove kmix :) | 20:36 |
| yofel | ok, so that update is... "fun" | 20:44 |
| yofel | nvidia is still broken, that's for sure | 20:44 |
| yofel | also my kwallet is broken, meaning I couldn't connect to the WiFi as plasma-nm couldn't provide a password | 20:45 |
| valorie | well, I think now that it is raining, I'll go buy a new backup instead of working in the yard | 20:45 |
| valorie | so I can update this box | 20:45 |
| yofel | oh, and plasma didn't save my session this time | 20:46 |
| yofel | so much for that | 20:46 |
| soee | hmm, Kontact has this welcom popup "Did you know .. ?" but it is just empty and clicking previous / next changes nothing :) | 20:48 |
| soee | wee plasmashell crash .. :) | 20:49 |
| yofel | do you also have intel in the trace? | 20:50 |
| yofel | funny enough kmail still works for me | 20:51 |
| soee | yofel: i closed this crash window .. my first crash today was http://paste.ubuntu.com/12265705/ | 20:52 |
| soee | and info on plasma channel: <_kdepepo> soee, that's a crash in the intel i65 mesa driver | 20:52 |
| yofel | soee: install xserver-xorg-video-intel-dbg | 20:52 |
| yofel | that's the same trace I had earlier | 20:52 |
| yofel | sadly retracing after installing that didn't work | 20:52 |
| soee | ok i have it installed | 20:53 |
| yofel | now this feels like an old-school ubuntu dev release again | 20:53 |
| yofel | until beta1 everything works fine, then hell breaks loose XD | 20:53 |
| soee | :D | 20:54 |
| yofel | this is what I get with nvidia http://paste.ubuntu.com/12266942/ | 20:55 |
| yofel | dang, I forgot to run nvidia-bug-report.sh | 20:55 |
| soee | :/ | 20:57 |
| yofel | well, on the positive side, this is perfectly reproducable -.- | 20:59 |
| soee | bu this is 100% nvidia driver issue ? | 20:59 |
| yofel | probably... the only other parts in that trace are libc6 (probably not...), and X (well, this is X, but it works with intel) | 21:00 |
| snele | soee: yofel: I have nvidia in desktop pc and it is rock stable. I believe it is optimus issue(you guys have laptops right?) | 21:01 |
| soee | yup | 21:01 |
| yofel | yep | 21:01 |
| yofel | it's still nvidia_drv.so that crashes though.. | 21:02 |
| yofel | I guess I could try 352 again.. | 21:03 |
| snele | yofel: are problems with optimus+ssdm fixed yet? I am going to buy new laptop soon and I am scared to buy optimus laptop :) | 21:06 |
| snele | but like them the best :) | 21:06 |
| yofel | until yesterday, I didn't really have issues with optimus.. | 21:08 |
| yofel | soee: also install libgl1-mesa-dri-dbg | 21:08 |
| yofel | here's my full plasma trace http://paste.ubuntu.com/12267093/ | 21:09 |
| soee | yofel: installed | 21:11 |
| soee | hihi NVIDIA 355.11 Driver Stabilizes The Series With Full OpenGL For EGL :) | 21:11 |
| soee | ... Stabilizes | 21:11 |
| yofel | riiiiiight | 21:12 |
| * yofel filed lp 1492037 | 21:16 | |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1492037 in mesa (Ubuntu) "Segmentation fault in brw_meta_fast_clear" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1492037 | 21:16 |
| soee | i confirmed it though have to wait for crash to have some trace | 21:18 |
| ximion | Riddell et al. : I made a package for the AppStream metadata generated at appstream.kubuntu.co.uk, which installs the data for the "main" and "universe" archive components | 21:19 |
| ximion | you can get the thing from https://launchpad.net/~ximion/+archive/ubuntu/packagekit/+sourcepub/5368271/+listing-archive-extra and test it | 21:19 |
| ximion | to reach the archive, it will need a sponsor though ;-) | 21:20 |
| ximion | oh, and it required the appstream package to be available in at least version 0.8.3, so the data can be read correctly | 21:20 |
| yofel | we'll need a FFE for that then, we only have 0.5 | 21:21 |
| ScottK | Will you? | 21:22 |
| ScottK | Considering the current version is broken with the upstream data, isn't it just a bug fix? | 21:23 |
| yofel | hm, good point | 21:23 |
| yofel | can we still do a sync from unstable? that has 0.8.3-2 | 21:23 |
| ximion | yofel: appstream-glib is at 0.5 | 21:25 |
| yofel | will still need a sponsor, I have no upload rights for that | 21:25 |
| ximion | that version can't read the data as well, but upstream also doesn't have a fix for that yet - and it's not very relevant for KDE :D | 21:26 |
| yofel | oh, I checked -util | 21:26 |
| yofel | -index is 0.8.2 | 21:26 |
| ximion | so the Debian developer dashboard is correct ^^ | 21:26 |
| ximion | ScottK: the current version is broken with the *downstream* / distro data ;-) - upstream works well | 21:27 |
| ximion | although I would also consider this to be a bugfix | 21:27 |
| ximion | especially since the new release doesn't bring many invasive new features | 21:28 |
| ximion | (not a single change which could break ABI, only the name of a cli tool has changed) | 21:28 |
| ronnoc | yofel: I'm getting (what I beleive to be) the same constant Plasmashell segfauts but I do not have anything nvidia on this desktop. | 21:29 |
| yofel | ronnoc: please pastebin the trace when you get it | 21:30 |
| yofel | ronnoc: the plasma crash is from the intel mesa dri lib from what I see | 21:31 |
| ronnoc | yofel: that would appear to be the case - my graphics is an onboard 82G965 Integrated Graphics Controller | 21:36 |
| ronnoc | I should be getting one momentarilly | 21:36 |
| yofel | ronnoc: make sure you have libgl1-mesa-dri-dbg installed | 21:36 |
| ronnoc | ok | 21:37 |
| valorie | what's the command again to upgrade this box to vivid? | 23:04 |
| valorie | sudo do-release-devel-upgrade ? | 23:04 |
| valorie | or is there a kubuntu special version | 23:05 |
| valorie | got it | 23:06 |
| ahoneybun | do-release-upgrade -d | 23:08 |
| valorie | yep, that's what I used | 23:11 |
| valorie | it's now in the midst of it | 23:11 |
| valorie | and I'm out ripping out the hated groundcover | 23:12 |
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