[05:27] <zage> Good day, everyone.
[05:27] <zage> Does anyone know of a good snippets manager for ubuntu? Preferrably cross-platform.
[06:44] <dholbach> good morning
[09:11] <popey> dholbach: if you get a chance can you pls review terminal and calendar updates in the store?
[09:25] <dholbach> popey, sure
[09:29] <dholbach> popey, approved
[09:34] <popey> thanks dholbach
[14:00] <gundo> appdev
[14:24] <popey> dholbach: if you get a moment could you please review music and clock which I just uploaded to the store? cc ahayzen nik90
[14:37] <dholbach> popey, clock is done - I can't see music
[14:37] <popey> dholbach: sorry, just requested manual review, my bad
[14:40] <dholbach> popey, I don't know what's happening with clock
[14:40] <dholbach> it says:
[14:40] <dholbach> Latest uploaded version: 3.5.364 --- Current approved version: 3.5.364 --- Published version: 3.4.305
[14:42] <popey> stupid website
[14:42] <popey> dholbach: I didn't autopublish
[14:43] <popey> \o/ done, thanks dholbach
[14:46] <nik90> popey: Just curious, but why is Clock update size 1.1 MB? I don't remember it being more than 500 Kb to be honest.
[14:47] <popey> nik90: oh blimey, what have I done?
[14:47]  * nik90 thinks back to if he added any image/sound assets to clock source to make it big.
[14:47] <ogra_> you shouldnt have added all the android watch clockfaces
[14:48]  * popey temporarily unpublishes while we look at it
[14:48] <popey> 2.6MB in po alone
[14:49] <didrocks> popey: when you have time and/or want to play with things, please have a try at http://people.canonical.com/~didrocks/tmp/splitthebill.didrocks_1.0_armhf.click
[14:50] <nik90> we added a couple of svgs.. but should at most be an additonal 5 Kb.
[14:50] <popey> nik90: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12263449/
[14:50] <popey> file sizes over time
[14:50] <popey> didrocks: kk
[14:50] <popey> nik90: you agree that looks reasonable?
[14:51] <nik90> popey: hmm yes it does
[14:51] <didrocks> popey: this is my example apps for the futures videos. it should have a default "non archive mode" (until you save your first bill, it will always presents you the "bill split mode"). You can add and manage attachments, it tries to follow best design team practices, contenthub (share/import/see in default app) integration, location service, u1db storage, new listviews (swapping to dismiss),
[14:51] <didrocks> themeable…
[14:52] <didrocks> popey: opened to any suggestions/remarks ;)
[14:52] <didrocks> ah, and currency converter :p
[14:52] <didrocks> (saving the currency rates from the date you added the bill)
[14:52] <didrocks> + small dialogs for date/time saving, and so on…
[14:52]  * didrocks tried to hit a large part of our API in one app example
[14:53] <popey> didrocks: first suggestion, make it a fat click so it works on intel machines :)
[14:53] <didrocks> popey: stupid question, how do I do it? :p
[14:54] <didrocks> zbenjamin never gave me the option in the IDE! :)
[14:54] <popey> indeed, blame him
[14:54] <didrocks> more seriously, I should just build it and click package manually?
[14:55] <popey> i have a script which does that
[14:56] <popey> didrocks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12263491/
[14:56]  * didrocks wget -o popey.sh :p
[14:57] <popey> :þ
[14:57] <didrocks> oh, you harcoded cmake :p
[14:57] <popey> yeah, sorry :)
[14:58] <didrocks> of course qmake .. isn't as flexible :p
[14:58]  * didrocks looks
[14:58] <didrocks> popey: thanks! I'll try to get one soonish
[15:01] <popey> I wouldn't worry too much, can't imaging there's many people who would grab that click and put iton a desktop?
[15:02] <didrocks> I don't guess so
[15:03] <nik90> popey: clock store page doesn't show screenshots, changelog .. not sure if the app scope takes time to show the updated content.
[15:03]  * nik90 reboots phone for good measure
[15:03] <ahayzen> nik90, same for me
[15:04] <popey> the store is broken
[15:04] <popey> IMO
[15:04] <popey> beuno: ^
[15:04] <nik90> haha
[15:04] <beuno> the store is down
[15:05] <beuno> as is SSO
[15:05] <popey> \o/
[15:05] <nik90> oh
[15:05] <ahayzen> hah
[15:05] <beuno> as are... other things
[15:05] <beuno> the clouds are angry
[15:06] <beuno> it's back now
[15:08] <mhall119> beuno: did we forget to appease the cloud gods?
[15:08] <nik90> beuno: clock page still doesnt show screenshots, author information or anything except for reviews.
[15:08] <beuno> mhall119, you never know what they want for dessert
[15:08] <beuno> nik90, link?
[15:09] <nik90> beuno: just long-hold clock app on the phone.
[15:09] <nik90> s/long-hold/long-press
[15:10] <mhall119> oh man, one-star reviews on the clock app.....
[15:10] <mhall119> "The new icon doesn't show the *real* time"......does any other platform update the clock's app icon in real time?
[15:10] <beuno> nik90, I wonder if something's caching
[15:10] <beuno> it all seems fine here
[15:11] <nik90> beuno: ah okay..I will wait a while.
[15:11] <beuno> nik90, can you try rebooting the phone for me?
[15:11] <beuno> just to double check
[15:11] <nik90> sure
[15:11] <mcphail> mhall119: a live-updated icon would be extremely cool, though
[15:12] <nik90> mhall119: iOS 7 does it .. http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/14/ios-7-clock-app-icon-shows-the-current-time-to-the-second/
[15:12] <mhall119> mcphail: sure, unless you like battery life
[15:12] <didrocks> mhall119: android does
[15:12] <mhall119> nik90: really? wow
[15:13] <mcphail> The podbird parrot icon could flap her wings when there is a new episode
[15:13] <nik90> anyway we have a bug tracking this feature and it affects clock, calendar. Unity8 is also added.
[15:13] <nik90> mcphail: lol..is it a parrrot? I never asked :D
[15:14] <nik90> beuno: reboot did not fix the issue.
[15:14] <mcphail> nik90: well, I'm no ornithologist...
[15:14] <beuno> nik90, ack, looking into it more deeply now
[15:14] <nik90> beuno: FYI, popey did update the screenshot and changelog for this new clock app update.
[15:14] <nik90> thnx
[15:15] <mhall119> didrocks: clock and calendar icons on my Android tablet are static
[15:15] <didrocks> mhall119: can be a TouchWiz feature
[15:15] <didrocks> (I have the samsung clock app)
[15:15] <mhall119> ah, could be
[15:15] <mhall119> yay fragmentation!
[15:15] <didrocks> mhall119: yep, seems it is: http://phandroid.com/2015/03/10/samsung-galaxy-s6-touchwiz-clock-calendar-icon-time-date/
[15:19] <beuno> nik90, and now?  :)
[15:21] <popey> i see no screenshots here either
[15:21] <popey> rebooted retail krillin phone
[15:21] <beuno> popey, of anything?  or just the clock??
[15:21] <popey> just clock
[15:22]  * popey checks the store to see if they are there
[15:22] <popey> oh, i see
[15:22] <popey> it's reverted back to "ready to publish"
[15:22]  * popey presses publish
[15:22] <popey> I guess the cloud went down just at the point I hit publish previously
[15:22] <popey> try now nik90
[15:22] <popey> works here
[15:26] <mhall119> works here now too
[15:27] <dholbach> balloons, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Components
[15:28] <dholbach> balloons, updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Bugs as well
[15:30] <mzanetti> Sir popey, meeting time :)
[15:30] <mzanetti> ack
[15:30] <mzanetti> wrong channel :D
[15:30] <mhall119> also, I believe sir popey is on holiday
[15:30] <mzanetti> oh... that slacker
[15:31] <mzanetti> balloons, hey, wanna chat about reminders-ci? we'd have our reminders weekly atm
[15:32] <balloons> mzanetti, I may have something more to say pretty soon. I was bogged down by some bugs in jenkins that prevented me from getting a run in. As usual, your timing means I have a proper solution to try now
[15:32] <mzanetti> balloons, I'd be in a hangout if you wanna join. but we can also do next week if you're not ready yet
[15:33] <balloons> I can hang in a hangout sure
[15:33] <mzanetti> balloons, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/ZGF2aWQucGxhbmVsbGFAY2Fub25pY2FsLmNvbQ.hmi0jtgolt85guqu500jhnu8s0?authuser=1
[15:33] <balloons> no bueno
[15:36] <mzanetti> :)
[15:36] <mzanetti> balloons, anyhow... we don't have to do this today... I've invited you to the reminders weekly. you can join optionally whenever you feel there's something to say about reminders QA
[15:39] <balloons> mzanetti, ahh, now google likes me, but you are all gone, hah
[15:40] <mzanetti> hah, I can return
[15:40] <nik90> beuno, popey: Yup I see it now. thnx
[16:12] <Mirv> thanks everyone for music, terminal, calendar and clock updates, eagerly downloading. yesterday OTA-6, today these, good times to be switching to ~full Ubuntu usage! :)
[17:09] <ogra_> popey, hmm, after update my datetime indicator only shows "unnamed" events :/
[17:09] <ogra_> seemingly also from the wrong calendar
[17:10] <ogra_> hmm, actually its the same event 4 times
[17:15] <popey> ogra_: odd
[17:15] <ogra_> popey, http://i.imgur.com/A9Oeh2r.png
[17:16] <ogra_> my default calendar is ubuntu orange ... it seems ot show "Personal" from the local disk (which is disabled everywhere)
[17:44] <rpadovani> dholbach, why did you reset the Avengers page? It was a useful collection of links...
[17:44] <dholbach> rpadovani, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Components
[17:44] <dholbach> rpadovani, it's linked from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Bugs
[17:45] <rpadovani> dholbach, <3 awesome, thanks!
[17:45] <dholbach> avengers wasn't really to find and it's a project which isn't really used any more :)
[18:22] <moesi> hello! can someone tell me if it is possible to use the ubuntu-sdk in an ubuntu-virtualbox-guest system? It seams that my device (BQ4.5) cant be tunneled to the guest system.
[18:23] <moesi> its not detected
[22:54] <zbenjamin> popey: no option to make fat packages in the IDE? Not true. Just use qmake
[23:03] <nik90> zbenjamin: are you sponsoring to convert core-apps cmake to qmake :D ?
[23:03] <zbenjamin> nik90: well if it were just for me i would vote for core apps to use qmake yes
[23:03] <zbenjamin> except there is a really good reason to not use it
[23:03] <popey> there's voting
[23:04] <popey> and there's patches
[23:04] <popey> the two are not the same :)
[23:04] <nik90> zbenjamin: what's the good reason to not use it atm?
[23:04] <zbenjamin> nik90: not use qmake? I have none :D
[23:04] <zbenjamin> nik90: maybe if your project build is extremely complex
[23:05] <nik90> zbenjamin: I think the complexity will come with the autopilot and qml tests I suppose.
[23:05] <zbenjamin> popey: yeah sure, after i finished doing the day job i'll patch the core apps to use qmake ;)
[23:05] <nik90> ;)
[23:05] <zbenjamin> nik90: nah, tests are not that complex
[23:05] <popey> :)
[23:05] <zbenjamin> nik90: usually that means compiling something, and executing the result , both is doable
[23:05] <popey> I am not wedded to cmake at all, but right now we have a system that works
[23:06] <nik90> +1
[23:06] <zbenjamin> popey: yeah, i guess there is no real reason to change that as well. But if someone starts a new project i'd go with qmake
[23:06] <zbenjamin> after all its a matter of taste and we will continue to support both
[23:07] <zbenjamin> nik90: ah btw, the patch for the runconfigurations should have landed already
[23:07] <nik90> zbenjamin: damn, I forgot to update my laptop just a few minutes back to test that. Will test tomorrow. Need to sleep soon.
[23:08] <popey> sleep! great idea
[23:08] <nik90> gnite all :)
[23:08] <zbenjamin> nik90: or maybe not, need to ask timo again tomorrow
[23:08] <zbenjamin> nik90: have a good night
[23:08]  * popey enters ACPI mode S3
[23:08] <zbenjamin> popey: you too :D