[04:11] <Dheeraj> help
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> Dheeraj: ask
[04:12] <Dheeraj> how can we install ubuntu touch in sony Xperia Z ultra..pls help me
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> !devices | Dheeraj
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> Dheeraj: you can join the XDA forums to see if there's an existing project for your device
[04:12] <Dheeraj> actually there is no images for Sony Xeria Z ultra....
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> Dheeraj: then the only way is porting ubuntu touch for your device
[04:13] <Dheeraj> XDA not givibg full info..fk this
[04:14] <Dheeraj> abt instaling ubnutu in Sony Ultra
[06:45] <dholbach> good morning
[06:46] <undertasker> morning.
[06:46] <undertasker> Does anybody know how hard it is to get gpg running on an Ubuntu phone?
[06:49] <coin> undertasker, its already installed
[06:50] <undertasker> great.
[06:51] <undertasker> THAT would be a reason to buy an Ubuntu phone
[06:51] <coin> just open a terminal or a shell and use it
[06:52] <undertasker> Is it integrated into the mail client?
[06:52] <coin> I don't think dekko is able to use it
[06:53] <DanChapman> patches welcome though :-)
[06:53] <Stanley00> undertasker: but you can always patch it
[06:53] <coin> it would be a nice improvement !
[06:55] <m0n5t3r> it would be nice if we got some /userdata encryption first, tho
[07:00] <undertasker> Found this on the web: "Will Dekko include encryption like gpg or mime?" Answer: Dan Chapman  (dpniel) said on 2015-02-12:
[07:00] <undertasker> "Yes it will support both s/mime and pgp, it's being worked on now and should start making it's way into a release in the near future"
[07:01] <Tm_T> \o/
[07:02] <DanChapman> undertasker: yes some of the work on it has been done already, still a fair bit to figure out though and it's not top of my priority list atm
[07:09] <undertasker> BTW: is there some way to test the look and feel of Ubuntu Touch without buying a device? Some sort of an emulator, or a method to install it on top of a standard Linux?
[07:11] <Stanley00> undertasker: you can install an emulator
[07:12] <undertasker> Do you have a link?
[07:14] <Stanley00> undertasker: It comes with ubuntu sdk, I don't know if you can install it as standalone, you can try finding it in ubuntu software center
[07:15] <coin> undertasker, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-sdk/installing-the-sdk/
[07:22] <DanChapman> undertasker: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Emulator if you don't want to install the full SDK
[07:28] <undertasker> thanks
[09:55] <guest42315> ogra_, hi :> my updates got stuck on r4 (terminal app and calendar) any idea how to debug it, i can restart and fix the bug but i don't really want to do that
[09:59] <ogra_> guest42315, hmm, perhaps mandel can tell you what to look for, sounds like either a downloader or an upgrader prob
[10:00] <guest42315> oh, ok :D thanks
[10:00] <guest42315> mandel, hi :>  my updates got stuck on r4 (terminal app and calendar) any idea how to debug it, i can restart and fix the bug but i don't really want to do that
[10:00] <mandel> guest42315, try the following, remove your u1 credentials and readd them
[10:01] <mandel> guest42315, there is a known issue with that, we have code to fix it but I don't know if it is in ota6 or ota7
[10:01] <guest42315> mandel, i don't want an workaround i was just wandering if the bug is known
[10:01] <ogra_> oh, indeed, the token could need renewal
[10:01] <guest42315> ok thanks
[10:01] <mandel> guest42315, yes, it is known
[10:01]  * ogra_ forgot about that old bug 
[10:01] <mandel> guest42315, and e have a fix too
[10:01] <guest42315> it's not in ota6. i'm on ota6 :P
[10:01] <guest42315> so it will probably land in ota7
[10:01] <guest42315> yay
[10:01] <mandel> guest42315, then will be the next ota, I know we were waiting for some work on the server side
[10:02] <mandel> guest42315, but the client code is ready ;)
[10:02] <guest42315> mandel, soooper :D thanks
[10:02] <mandel> guest42315, no problem :)
[10:05] <guest42315> mandel, ogra_ woa silly, if i try to restart it does nothing, i get the spinning thingy (loader?) on the apps scope and then the apps scopers refreshes. it's probably related to this bug
[10:06] <mandel> guest42315, hmm we need to improve that integration :-/
[10:06] <mandel> guest42315, is this after a hard reboot (hardware)
[10:06] <guest42315> nope
[10:07] <guest42315> so i'm pressing the power button and i get the power dialog [power off][restart][cancel]
[10:08] <guest42315> and now if i tap/press Restart it does nothing
[10:09] <guest42315> mandel, ^^ (shoud i try power off?  :)
[10:09] <mandel> guest42315, yes, but that is a big WTF!?! Please write down what you did, if it does not work, we have a problem
[10:11] <guest42315> mandel, poweroff worked :> it's now rebooting
[10:11] <guest42315> mandel, and the updates worked
[10:12] <mandel> guest42315, hurray! \o/
[10:12] <guest42315> mandel, i did exactly nothing to trigger that bug :> i'm on the "stable" channel :P
[10:12] <mandel> guest42315, sometimes it looks like I know what I'm talking about ;)
[10:12] <guest42315> :)))
[10:12] <guest42315> i'm sure you do :P
[10:13] <mandel> guest42315, yes, it is a well known bug, the system setting page code is so so in terms of quality but I'm fixing it for ota7 so that is more stable and better with errors
[10:13] <mandel> guest42315, next time, if the creds are bad, you will get a nice dialog to readd them :)
[10:14] <guest42315> :o)
[12:30] <jgdx> Elleo, hi, do you have a mako available?
[12:31] <Elleo> jgdx: yep?
[12:32] <Elleo> jgdx: I took a quick look at that keyboard test issue last night by the way and I can reproduce it; not sure what's happening though as that test never used to be flaky
[12:32] <Elleo> jgdx: plus unity8 keeps crashing when running tests on the latest image which is making things a bit tricky to debug
[12:33] <jgdx> Elleo, right, that's what I wanted to ask. I'm seeing unity8 and maliit crashes
[12:33] <jgdx> but the maliit crash files are eaten by a grue
[12:33] <jgdx> … or something
[12:33] <Elleo> jgdx: yeah, those are just unity8 crashes really; maliit will die because it can no longer talk to unity8
[12:34] <Elleo> jgdx: not sure why you're not getting maliit crash files though, I get them
[12:34] <jgdx> okay, but I also have non-crash maliit failure where the ~"Keyboard is never on screen"
[12:34] <jgdx> Elleo, I get them, but they disappear. I have no idea how the crash file system works, though. Could be my doing.
[12:34] <Elleo> jgdx: odd
[12:35] <Elleo> jgdx: does the keyboard fail to appear after a unity8 crash? or just at any time?
[12:36] <Elleo> jgdx: I've seen it start to fail to appear after running that test you mentioned (which is what causes the test to fail)
[12:36] <Elleo> jgdx: I'm wondering if there's something wrong with the maliit <-> unity8 comms, as the tests restart maliit-server before running (which should cause a reconnection with unity8)
[12:36] <jgdx> Elleo, after a unity crash unity just keeps on crashing everytime I run a test
[12:37] <Elleo> jgdx: do you only see this on mako then? (I've only tested on mako so far)
[12:37] <Elleo> (the unity8 crashing)
[12:38] <jgdx> Elleo, haven't checked other devices.
[12:39] <Elleo> ah, okay
[12:43] <undertasker> Is there a list of what data is sent from the phone to the store/cloud?
[12:59] <aquarius> can I test the Ubuntu phone keyboard on my desktop?
[13:05] <kenvandine> Elleo, ^^ see aquarius' question
[13:06] <Elleo> aquarius: sort of, it doesn't work very well under X at the moment; there's some bug that causes duplicate key presses under X that I've not had a chance to look into
[13:06] <Elleo> aquarius: but other than that it will run (and look super ugly), you just need to set the right environment variables
[13:06] <aquarius> Elleo, ah, ok. I was thinking about making the emoji keyboard display emoji images rather than the unicode characters (obviously it will still *type* the characters) because they're much easier to distinguish
[13:06] <aquarius> but to do that sensibly I need to get the thing spun up on my desktop :)
[13:07] <Elleo> aquarius: QT_IM_MODULE=maliitphablet or GTK_IM_MODULE=maliitphablet when launching a Qt or GTK app to get it to display
[13:07] <aquarius> Elleo, what do I need to install to get it?
[13:08] <Elleo> aquarius: ubuntu-keyboard-english ubuntu-keyboard-emoji should get all the needed deps
[13:08] <Elleo> aquarius: then just start maliit-server
[13:09] <Elleo> aquarius: ideal solution however would be to add support for image fonts to Qt's font rendering, then we could have proper colour emoji everywhere
[13:09] <aquarius> agreed
[13:09] <Elleo> aquarius: but that's likely to be difficult
[13:10] <jgdx> kenvandine, why'd you start a build of s15?
[13:10] <aquarius> however, that's hard, indeed
[13:10] <kenvandine> jgdx, it was dirty
[13:10] <jgdx> kenvandine, are you able to cancel?
[13:10] <kenvandine> jgdx, i rebuilt all settings silos
[13:10] <kenvandine> sure
[13:10] <jgdx> ty
[13:11] <aquarius> E: Unable to locate package ubuntu-keyboard-emoji. bah. no testing on 14.04 for me :)
[13:12] <Elleo> aquarius: if you check out lp:ubuntu-keyboard it should build okay on 14.04
[13:13] <kenvandine> jgdx, done
[13:13] <jgdx> kenvandine, cool
[13:13] <aquarius> Elleo, checking it out. Can I compile and run it in place, or does it force me to install at system level?
[13:14] <Elleo> aquarius: you'll need to install it, but if you just run debuild it'll create deb packages for everything
[13:17] <aquarius> stone me this is a large repo
[13:17] <aquarius> it's over 100MB already and it isn't finished yet :)
[13:18] <Elleo> aquarius: yeah, it's all the prediction stuff for each language
[13:19] <aquarius> Elleo, This package has a Debian revision number but there does not seem to be an appropriate original tar file or .orig directory in the parent directory
[13:20] <aquarius> should I literally just be able to "debuild" in the root of the new branch?
[13:20] <Elleo> yeah, just say "yes" when it asks if you want to continue
[13:20] <Elleo> it'll still build fine
[13:21] <Elleo> you'll probably need to install the build-deps if you don't have them already though
[13:21] <aquarius> yup, doing that now
[13:29] <Mirv> Elleo: hi! if you have a moment at some point, please update https://code.launchpad.net/~michael-sheldon/ubuntu-keyboard/fix-qt55/+merge/266707 to remove the debian/control part that is not needed anymore, and the branch can be landed. it should be not needing QA team, right, since there are no functional changes? I made a landing line for it https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/312
[13:31] <Elleo> Mirv: sure thing :)
[13:33] <Mirv> great! I'll kick a build when it's ready.
[13:35] <aquarius> Elleo, so, I've installed things, and I run maliit-server, and then if I run "GTK_IM_MODULE=maliitphablet transmission-gtk" and click in a text box, it should pop up the keyboard?
[13:38] <aquarius> (cos it isn't)
[13:39] <Elleo> aquarius: yeah, just tried that and it doesn't seem to be working with the GTK stuff; not sure why, "QT_IM_MODULE=maliitphablet qmlscene" works though
[13:42] <aquarius> Elleo, aha, that works, yup. But... clicking on the buttons on the keyboard doesn't do anything. SHould it?
[13:44] <Elleo> aquarius: yeah, it inputs stuff for me; I'm on vivid though so I'm not sure if anything has changed there, I know we've patched maliit a bit since 14.04
[13:44] <Elleo> aquarius: although make sure the input area is visible, the focused one on the qmlscene file picker is at the bottom so might be overlapped by the keyboard
[13:46] <aquarius> Elleo, yup, it's visible. Sounds like maybe the changes since trusty have broken it on trusty :( Is there some convenient way I can debug?
[13:48] <Elleo> aquarius: if you press a key on the emoji layout does it get entered? wondering if it's related to the pre-edit buffer (which isn't used for emoji)
[13:49] <aquarius> Elleo, I can't switch to the emoji layout, 'cos clicking on the keyboard doesn't do anything
[13:50] <Elleo> ah, so the buttons aren't even pressing, not that they're pressing but not entering stuff?
[13:50] <Elleo> that's odd, as that should be uneffected by anything external
[13:51] <aquarius> correct
[13:51] <Elleo> aquarius: you could try restarting maliit-server with the environment variable MALIIT_DEBUG=true set and then pastebin the log
[13:53] <aquarius> Elleo, log at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12263094/ -- clicking on the keyboard doesn't write anything to the log at all
[13:53] <aquarius> looking at the log, we seem to be identifying the clickable region as a 0x0 rectangle, which sounds relevant :)
[13:55] <Elleo> aquarius: yeah, unless that happened after you changed app (so the keyboard hid itself again)
[13:55] <aquarius> ah, could be
[13:56] <aquarius> it's hard to tell because I can't look at the log window wihtout switching away from the qml window :)
[13:56] <aquarius> working on it
[13:57] <aquarius> Elleo, you were right
[13:57] <aquarius> ignore that size 0 thing; that's after I switched away and it shrank
[13:57] <aquarius> so, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12263120/
[13:58] <aquarius> so that ain't the problem. Meanwhile, clicking the keyboard still doesn't do anything
[13:58] <Elleo> yeah, and those other dimensions look plausible
[14:15] <jgdx> pete-woods, did you try that thing from yesterday?
[14:15] <pete-woods> jgdx: got sucked into a "critical" bugfix
[14:15] <pete-woods> jgdx: also cannot flash my soft-bricked arale for love nor money
[14:16] <pete-woods> I've bought an external thunderbolt USB breakout in the hopes of a different USB chipset making the difference
[14:16] <pete-woods> but it's not arrived yet
[14:17] <jgdx> pete-woods, okay, I can verify later today/early tomorrow. No worries
[14:17] <pete-woods> jgdx: thanks. sorry to be no help on this
[15:38] <muka> I'm trying hotspot feature and can't establish connection. Looks like password is failing. Anyone with the same problem?
[15:39] <kenvandine> muka, on mako?
[15:40] <kenvandine> muka, sorry secure hotspots are known not to work on mako right now
[15:40] <kenvandine> but we plan to have insecure hotspot as an option in ota7
[15:40] <kenvandine> until the issue is resolved on mako
[15:45] <muka> kenvandine, yes, mako
[15:46] <kenvandine> muka, ok, so known issue... sorry
[15:46] <kenvandine> device specific bug in wpa_supplicant
[15:46] <muka> ok thanks
[15:46] <kenvandine> there will be at least something for you in ota7 :)
[15:47] <muka> I was hoping to stop using USB. Oh well, I can wait.
[15:50] <nik90> kenvandine: curious as to why in https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/system-update-logo/+merge/269243, the width is set as 96 rather than in grid units?
[15:51] <kenvandine> i think because we want it to be fixed so the logo doesn't get fuzzy
[15:52] <kenvandine> there are a number of places where we've done that for icons
[15:52] <kenvandine> not saying that's right... but i think that's the rationale
[15:52] <nik90> oke
[15:53] <kenvandine> i guess the svg would probably scale well
[15:53] <nik90> true, but I see that the conversion from png to svg just happened
[15:53] <kenvandine> yeah
[15:54] <kenvandine> before the png would have had a fixed size anyway
[15:54] <kenvandine> so i guess this just matched that
[15:55] <nik90> yeah I guessed so.
[17:58] <kwah> hi all...
[17:59] <kwah> Got UI locked by dialer up (or maybe lock screen). Any hints on how I may try to diagnose/resolve this?
[18:10] <kwah> silence... any idea whom may I ping???
[18:10] <dholbach> the mailing list should be fine
[19:25] <blocage> hello, I broke my ubuntu phone :/ while updating to v5, currently my phone blink in recovery mode and I cannot turn it in fastboot any more, to someone have hint ?
[19:44] <OerHeks> blocage, what ubuntu phone, BQ ?
[19:46] <blocage> OerHeks, yes
[19:47] <OerHeks> i would take a look a this blog https://sturmflut.github.io/ubuntu/bq/2015/05/04/hacking-the-bq-part-1-bootloader-fastboot-recovery/ https://sturmflut.github.io/ubuntu/touch/2015/05/05/hacking-ubuntu-touch-part-1-ubuntu-device-flash/
[19:47] <OerHeks> or the official wiki https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/
[19:47] <OerHeks> ( i don own a BQ so cannot look with you)
[19:50] <blocage> OerHeks, I already get trought this step but know I cannot turn on fastboot anymore, by pressing power+volume up
[19:50] <blocage> I cannot turn off the phone also
[19:52] <popey> hold the power button for longer than you think you need to
[19:52] <popey> like, until your finger hurts
[19:53] <blocage> popey, if I do this the phone reboot in loop
[19:54] <blocage> showing BQ splash
[19:54] <popey> sounds bad. might need to call bq if it's not possible to boot to fastboot
[19:54] <blocage> popey, I will wat for battery depletion
[19:55] <blocage> wait *
[19:55] <blocage> before
[19:55] <blocage> but
[19:55] <blocage> yes it's sound bad
[19:56] <blocage> at the moment the phone looping with ubuntu logo and a blue bar behind
[20:34] <Nibodhika> Hey, is there a way to control an ubuntu phone from linux? or at least force landscape mode?
[20:35] <Nibodhika> My old nexus 4 has a broken screen, so I decided to try to install ubuntu phone to try it out, but the continue button at the bottom of the screen is in the part of the screen that is not working
[20:43] <jgdx> Nibodhika, you can't just rotate the device?
[20:43] <Nibodhika> I rotate the phone but the screen doesn't
[20:43] <jgdx> we have a rotation lock, is that activated?
[20:43] <Nibodhika> that is what I normally do in android to pass the initial procedure
[20:43] <Nibodhika> how can I check?
[20:43] <jgdx> Nibodhika, wait, are you in the wizard?
[20:44] <Nibodhika> yes
[20:44] <jgdx> ah
[20:44] <jgdx> then there's probably a file you can create and reboot
[20:45] <jgdx> hold on
[20:45] <Nibodhika> ok, how? this is my first attempt at ubuntu phone so I have no idea how to do anything hehehe
[20:45] <jgdx> you need to access the phone via ssh/adb. Are you able to do that?
[20:45] <Nibodhika> I supose so
[20:46] <Nibodhika> it's not listed in adb
[20:46] <Nibodhika> but it's pluged via usb, I should be able to ssh into it
[20:46] <Nibodhika> I just don't know how
[20:47] <jgdx> I think you need to touch (create) /home/phablet/.config/ubuntu-system-settings/wizard-has-run and then reboot
[20:47] <jgdx> maybe a wizard/unity person can confirm/deny
[20:47] <jgdx> and if the path does not exist, you need to create the folders
[20:49] <Nibodhika> hum... how can I connect to the phone? for what I'm reading the ssh has to be enabled in the settings
[20:50] <jgdx> next i can think of is recovery…
[20:51] <dobey> no, you can't enable dev mode until after you get past the welcome wizard
[20:51] <Nibodhika> ok, got into recovery
[20:51] <jgdx> Nibodhika, then you should be able to mount the disk and create the file
[20:52] <dobey> i guess you can tweak stuff from recovery yeah
[20:52] <Nibodhika> hum, good idea
[20:53] <Nibodhika> any idea how the device should be named? I don't have any sdb or mmblck
[20:53] <Nibodhika> oh, in recovery it's listed in adb
[20:55] <Nibodhika> but there isn't any /home
[20:55] <jgdx> you have to mount userdata
[20:55] <jgdx> i don't remember the command, might have to look around
[20:56] <Nibodhika> ok
[20:57] <Nibodhika> should there be something in that partition already?
[20:59] <jgdx> try mounting stuff and have a look
[21:04] <Nibodhika> found it it's /dev/block/mmcblk0p23
[21:06] <Nibodhika> but creating that file did nothing
[21:06] <Nibodhika> I still get the wizard
[21:11] <Nibodhika> aha, sorry! missread the path
[21:12] <Nibodhika> so now I passed the wizard
[21:14] <Nibodhika> ok, is there any "tutorial-has-run" file also? hahaha I really need to change this screen
[21:41] <Nibodhika> For what I can see phablet-config edges-intro --disables does something more complicated than creating a file
[21:47] <ahoneybun> any reason the mako is not using the notification light for charging and such?
[21:54] <jgdx> Nibodhika, nah, it's just a dbus call
[21:55] <Nibodhika> yeah, except dbus-send does not exist in the adb shell I'm able to get into
[21:56] <Nibodhika> But I just found there is a --developer-mode on the flash command aparently https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Testing/Autopilot/TestRunners
[21:56] <jgdx> Nibodhika, the dbus call probably just trigger a gsettings change
[21:57] <Nibodhika> but the --developer-mode didn't work
[21:57] <jgdx> nm, that's probably also not easy to do from recovery
[21:57] <jgdx> Nibodhika, did you set a password?
[21:57] <Nibodhika> no
[21:57] <jgdx> you have to iirc
[22:05] <Nibodhika> ok, managed to flash the --developer-mode using --password
[22:06] <Nibodhika> I now have a device in adb
[22:06] <Nibodhika> but I can't connect to it
[22:08] <jgdx> adb shell does what?
[22:10] <jgdx> Nibodhika, maybe you'll have more luck installing stuff from phablet-tools.
[22:17] <Nibodhika> got to go now, I'll keep trying tomorrow, thanks
[23:16] <wyoung> hi, is there a card/cal dav client for the phone yet?