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diddledanit got dark01:00
diddledanI had to turn the lights on01:00
penguin42a while ago01:00
diddledanyeah, I only just turned on the lights tho :-p01:01
zmoylan-pichange your terminal from green text on black to black text on grey to add more light01:01
* zmoylan-pi puts on tonights movie... 'tremors 2'01:03
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MooDoomorning all06:58
shaunohowdy07:05
popeymorning07:59
brobostigonmorning boys and girls08:51
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Friday, and happy Bring Your Manners To Work Day! 😃09:10
diploMorning all09:29
shaunothat's quite ironic, since I got a mail this morning asking me to keep emails with global teams pg-13.09:31
directhex_shauno: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9MWE7DdtIw09:32
popeyhttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/juiceboxofficial/juicebox-the-smartphone-charging-essential/09:38
popey*tiny* batteries09:38
popeyclaim 1 hour, bet you won't get that09:38
shaunodirecthex_: :(09:41
directhex_why don't people get phones with bigger batteries if they need more battery life on their phones?09:42
directhex_"here's my ultra slim iphone! and a bulky bag filled with AAs and an adapter!"09:42
directhex_seriously, it's dumb09:42
shaunobecause my need for extended battery life is very situational.  I have a huge usb battery, and pretty much only use it when I'm travelling09:43
shaunowhereas my pants have pockets much more often09:43
shaunoI do love my battery though.  I got a week out of it on a boat running phone+watch09:45
shauno(which is much heavier usage than it sounds like, because I use the same combo to give me speed & course on my watch)09:46
brobostigona pebble?09:46
shaunonah, I'm all apple'd up, sorry09:47
* brobostigon sighs, and shakes his head in disappointment.09:47
shaunoI was actually curious about the pebble, but couldn't find enough information about people tying it straigth to bluetooth without a phone09:48
diplopopey: Making me spend money ref kickstart and indiegogo :P09:48
shaunoI mean, like watch to pi without needing the pebble app on a phone between the two09:48
brobostigonits the only one i can think of that has the battery life you deswcribed form a watch.09:48
popeypretty sure the pebble is the _only_ one you can use without a phone09:48
shaunooh, that's what I meant by my usb battery, still charging it every night09:48
brobostigonlibpebble for example.09:49
popey(other than whacky android ones which don't use wear, but run full android and have a sim card in) (and are terrible)09:49
popeydiplo: which one?09:49
shaunohm, libpebble I didn't come across.  interesting09:50
diploBoth :D Witi and the MyCroft :)09:51
diploFirst time I've backed anything09:51
brobostigonlibpebble is a couple of years old now, its does need some updating, but does work, especially when/for fw3.09:51
zleapmycroft looks great09:51
shaunoI'm still quite interested in the pebble just because it's one order of magnitude cheaper.  so for situations where I'm liable to get wetter than 'showerproof', replacably cheap is a huge factor09:51
diploIt does, I've wanted to autmomate home stuff for a while09:51
zleapis it just about voice stuff09:52
zleapor is the idea you say for example heating on and the heating comes on09:52
diploNah, can integrate it to other devices if that's what you mean09:52
diployeah exaactly09:52
selinuxium'lo09:52
diploOr play this on spotify etc09:52
zleapi have built a arduino based temp / humidity sensor project i want to do more with it,  so i am looking at bluetooth but I could also set it so a fan comes on if the temp is > a certain figure09:53
zleapbut also perhaps send the data to a phone / tablet / desktop app via bluetooth09:53
selinuxiumHi guys, going a bit nuts here (not news I know). Trying to set up passwordless ssh between servers. The trigger jobs are in the root cron. Is this possible?09:55
JamesTaitselinuxium, yes it is.09:55
selinuxiumJamesTait: Don't know what I am doing wrong... I shall continue on then :)09:56
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)09:56
selinuxiumHi bigcalm09:56
selinuxiumJamesTait: I was starting to think that as root doesn't have a password that it woudn't except passwordless connection..09:57
diploselinuxium: Permissions on the ssh directories is normally my issue at sites with ssh keys09:57
JamesTaitselinuxium, you'll need the public key of the user on the source server in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the destination server. Also, check the file and directory permissions - ssh is very strict.09:57
selinuxiumdiplo: cheers I will take a look.09:58
diplohah, JamesTait went in much more detail +1 :)09:58
selinuxiumCheers all  :)09:58
diploNormally mentions it in /var/log/secure if it's a permissions error09:58
diploOr ssh -vvv09:58
selinuxiumCheers09:59
JamesTaitOh this looks interesting: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mappa_Mercia/UTC09:59
JamesTaitAdding ubran traffic control data to openstreetmap, which "will be used to test build a prototype application which will eventually be a platform for public display of live traffic flows".10:01
diploIf it works, would be good that it gets made mandatory for access to all big cities/towns10:01
foobarryhow does google collect traffic flows?10:02
foobarryhttps://support.google.com/gmm/answer/2839958?hl=en10:04
foobarrylocation data collection10:04
diplohah, just did the same thing10:04
diploAnyone use OsmAnd instead of Google Maps for travelling?10:09
diploTried it a year or two ago but didn't get on with it10:09
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brobostigonanyone seen a bug before, where apt-cache just randomly runs, and it multiplies untill the system load of so high, the system is unrecoverable.?12:04
* penguin42 hasn't12:08
* popey either12:09
popeyapt-cache? not apt-catcher?12:09
penguin42brobostigon: Can you capture the command line given to the apt-cache ?12:09
brobostigonthe former, penguin4212:10
brobostigonpenguin42: how?12:11
popeyps aux ?12:12
brobostigonok, next time it runs, i will try and capture that. thank you.12:13
popeyalso look at the parent process, see what triggered it12:13
penguin42just to try and get a clue for why it's being run12:14
brobostigoni will try, i would like to know as well.12:14
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brobostigonps showed, apt-cache policy,12:18
penguin42just on it's own?12:19
brobostigonand multiples of itself.12:19
penguin42what was the parent?12:19
brobostigonhow do i find out the parent process?12:19
penguin42ps -eaf12:20
penguin423rd column12:20
popeypstree :)12:20
brobostigonok, i will look next time it plays up to see.12:21
brobostigon     |      |-22*[sh---byobu-status---lsb_release---apt-cache]12:37
brobostigonthats answers the question.12:37
penguin42oh god12:38
penguin42does it run byobu-status once per session or once per window?12:38
brobostigoni do not know.12:39
brobostigoni have killed byobu, to see what happens.12:41
penguin42brobostigon: I'm thinking it's something like it updates the status regularly; and if you have 'n' windows open perhaps it runs 'n' at a time12:41
brobostigonpenguin42: exactly, however i have three windows running, and there were definatly more apt-cache processes than that.12:41
brobostigonhad*12:41
popeyI use byobu all day and never see this12:42
popeyhow long does the apt-cache run for?12:42
brobostigonwell, sometimes for just a few moments, and sometimes untill the whole system frezzes due to the load of said processes.12:43
popeydebian bug 68295812:43
lubotu3Debian bug 682958 in byobu "byobu spawns apt-cache without end ... and freezes that way the system by high load" [Important,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/68295812:43
brobostigonthat sounds about it, yes.12:44
shaunolol @ screenshot of conky.  I feel better about my own bug reports now :)12:45
brobostigon:)12:45
penguin42brobostigon: Which ubuntu are you hitting it on?12:46
shaunohm, https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/byobu/+bug/999151 has fix-released in 2013?12:46
lubotu3Ubuntu bug 999151 in byobu "manual "apt-get update" leads to infite apt-get calls and disk filling (-> DoS)" [High,Fix released]12:46
brobostigonthat bug shows it as fixed mar 2 years ago, but it still seems to be there.12:46
penguin42brobostigon: Which version are you on?12:47
brobostigonVersion: 5.87-112:49
penguin42brobostigon: But which Ubuntu - precise?12:49
penguin42hmm no, 5.87 is utopic12:51
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daftykinsalrighty, heading to Portsmouth on the boat then Wales :>14:21
daftykinsbike trip here we go14:21
daftykinsta-ra \o14:21
Laney|\/| ° ø14:34
penguin42http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-3415120414:51
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foobarrybought something off ebay from china..., tracking number is belgian post "out for delivery" :-|19:55
penguin42sometime in the next month it'll probably arrive19:57
foobarry3rd item i've bought lately, first 2 didn't arrive19:58
penguin42oh, not had that problem19:59
foobarryi don't receive anything that doesn't fit in a tiny envelope20:00
foobarrywe'll see about this one20:00
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