[02:36] Don't think it's related, but https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/09/msg00000.html [02:37] bluesabre, micahg: In case you didn't already see ↑ [08:43] https://bugs.debian.org/798074 [08:43] Debian bug 798074 in catfish "catfish: New upstream release available" [Wishlist,Open] [10:04] not sure why qa articles is a work item - moved it to whiteboard [10:46] Unit193: the debian menu discussion makes sense [10:47] I'm guessing debian menus existed before the FD.o desktop spec [10:47] re Catfish, would debian actually want a development release packaged? [10:50] hi bluesabre [10:50] bluesabre: 1. Eh, not as-is, no. 2. Chances that person knew it was a development release? May have either seen 2a. New release announcement and not read. 2b. New release on Xfce. 2c. That Ubuntu had newer. [10:51] and Unit193 :) [10:51] flocculant: Howdy. [10:51] bluesabre: If you're using the version numbering of Xfce, update watch file? :D [10:52] hey flocculant [10:52] hey Unit193 [10:52] aha [10:52] so, can update the watch file to only watch for even numbered releases... [10:53] I thought https://sources.debian.net/src/xfce4-settings/4.12.0-2/debian/watch/ was pretty creative. [10:53] ooh [10:53] smart [10:54] Hrm, actually. That's point releases it's looking at. :D [10:54] closed enough [10:54] *close [10:54] Ah, I see how the structure is, nm. [10:58] (Anywho, that was mearly an idea, not necessarily even a recommendation!) [10:58] yeah, I might work with that [10:59] looks like the build failures for menulibre/mugshot might be caused by python3-distutils-extra [10:59] or gobject-introspection [10:59] I'll look at that a bit later [11:01] Unit193: thoughts on setting CLUTTER_BACKEND=x11 in our env until I get the bug report sorted with gnome upstream? [11:01] bluesabre: File in /usr or /etc? [11:01] Can the user easily override? [11:02] And I'd presume this affects more than just parole, but that'd be intended due to the same issue. [11:03] right, since it affects parole and even mugshot (which is a super basic usecase of clutter) I think it would probably affect other things as well [11:03] etc/X11/Xsession.d/56xubuntu-session [11:04] https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/xubuntu-default-settings/trunk/view/head:/etc/X11/Xsession.d/56xubuntu-session [11:05] Reminds me, did zequence want those too? [11:05] I think so... maybe [11:05] (Being in x-d-s won't exactly help him much though, soo. :P ) [11:05] :D [11:06] bluesabre: Oh! And next release we'll get to sync xfce4-terminal! [11:06] woohoo [11:07] Added your action item for xfdesktop, but not sure we've got enough testing to get that in. One of us could pop it up though. [11:09] we can drop it into -staging and request that folks review it, then get it in later this week [11:09] if it's just bugfix, should be pretty fine [11:10] bluesabre: if you send mail to the m/l - I'll copy it to the testers LP group [11:11] alrighty then [11:11] suppose that's a good motivation to get that done this morning [11:11] just make sure to ask what you need people to look at :) [11:11] I'll copy as soon as I see it [11:12] bluesabre: Already got xfdesktop4. [11:12] Unit193: cool, so you want to go ahead and upload it to -staging? [11:12] Am now. [11:13] you rock [11:13] Unless I dun goofed. [11:13] http://aka.media.jibjab.com/assets/12/88/78/77/17qqt2.png [11:13] Hah. [11:25] it's too bad that eric does not update NEWS in the repo when making a release [11:26] or make release announcements [11:26] nothing to link to :p [11:26] oh wait [11:27] and the cert is still dead on xfce [11:30] flocculant: sound good or too verbose? http://pad.ubuntu.com/xfdesktop-staging [11:30] Yes, yes it is... And, http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfdesktop/commit/?h=xfce-4.12&id=bce031253515aabb8dfd7497b7d9c2a8a36cef8b [11:30] ah [11:31] he should really update trunk [11:31] bluesabre: looks ok - though if there's something specific you want people to look at then now's the time [11:33] I popped it up into my own Xfce, so I'll get it in wily and vivid too. [11:35] Unit193: thanks, looks like its published now [11:35] sending the mail out [11:35] bluesabre: that looks better - thanks [11:38] ...I suppose someone should re-assign that task, then. [11:39] bluesabre: and copied as soon as I saw it [11:39] \o/ [11:40] just need to get the socially aware peeps to ping it out :D [11:43] Unit193: gave the task to you since the only thing I'm doing with it is uploading a bit later [11:43] you did all the heavy lifting ;) [11:44] Hah, well was easy enough this time. [11:44] And thanks, of course. [11:45] thank you, much faster than if I did it [11:46] normal morning routine for me: wake up, eat, watch news/anime, check email, then start working on stuff [11:46] I had only finished "eat" when all this started, so we're well ahead of schedule :D [11:46] Hah. :P [11:47] bluesabre, Unit193, flocculant: feel free to check out lp:ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu for some new art for the last slide [11:48] "./test-slideshow.sh xubuntu" to run the xubuntu slideshow [11:51] knome: I like it [11:52] and that color scheme [11:52] good good :) [11:52] yep [11:52] it's directly drawn from the new wallpaper [11:52] sweet [11:52] for much rejoicing for flocculant [11:59] heh [11:59] back tomorrow probably [12:00] hf then :) [13:15] knome, slideshow is nice. One question, though... it looks like there's been a regression to a draft vivid version in line 8 of the Customize slide. [13:15] knome, paste.ubuntu.com/12281910/ [13:16] knome, looks like it happened back in revision 690. Don't know if it was intentional or not. [13:43] jjfrv8, probably unintentional - i'll get it fixed - thanks :) [14:05] jjfrv8, pushed to production, thanks again [14:05] (well trunk, not production...) [14:06] cool [21:03] evening all [21:05] hello ochosi [21:05] hey [21:06] thought i'd quickly check up on things [21:06] currently pulling in the slideshow [21:06] :) [21:07] gee, it's so big [21:07] yep [21:08] i've heard that before [21:08] funny leg :) [21:08] was that bitten off by a vampire or something? :) [21:08] other than that, gotta love the moon [21:08] well i don't know [21:08] but you can have the svg source if you want to improve it... [21:08] the leg is kind of, ehm [21:09] cartoony [21:09] and the idea of only showing the werewolf leaving instead of howling i like [21:09] yeah, i didn't really like showing "werewolf" [21:09] heh, yeah, maybe that's ok since it's a *were*wolf instead of just a wolf [21:09] "killing" and "blood-thirsty" are not the things i want our users to have in their mind when they install xubuntu [21:09] howling would be ok, but then again, i think this is totally fine [21:10] yep [21:10] glad to hear you like it [21:10] even without the werewolf btw, the moon and the colorscheme work really well together [21:10] but let's keep it as is [21:10] nice work! [21:10] * knome bows [21:11] btw, have any of you tested numix? [21:11] nope [21:11] i've gotten a reply from satya saying he might merge the SASS branch and do a release with that [21:11] sorry.. [21:11] np [21:11] aha [21:11] the SASS branch should work ok with gtk3.16 [21:11] but i haven't ever tried it [21:12] i guess that'll finally break the sync/synergy between greybird and numix [21:13] okay [21:13] do you think it would be too much to ask that satya dedicated some time to come here before our releases? [21:15] i dunno, i think it'd be ok [21:16] then again, i haven't seen him being very active lately [21:16] so i'm not sure what to expect for numix's future [21:16] mhm [21:16] but we can evaluate that fater 16.04 [21:16] sure [21:16] i presume until then it'll remain maintained [21:23] oooh, ochosi [21:23] ochosi, tell me, would you like to earn some money? :D (i suspect not since you're a fellow phd student) [21:27] sidi, oh please, take the advertising to PMs :) [21:27] sidi: i'm not a student anymore - started job last week [21:27] or if you want to "catch-all", it's fine to send one email to the mailing list [21:29] but yeah, what knome said :) if you have a proposal, feel free to PM me ;) [21:29] ochosi, he wants to backdoor your pc [21:29] ah i'll stop, sorry i sometimes feel like im on shimmer [21:30] sidi, that's what the channel name is shown for in clients :P [21:41] night all! [21:41] nighty simon [22:34] evening all - just looking at slideshow, and ... [22:35] and? [22:35] Make the desktop your own - wording is odd [22:35] we can still change that [22:35] yep [22:36] Edit your user menus, whether adding applications, directories, separators to the menu layout or reordering menu items. [22:36] odd [22:36] well... [22:36] suggest a replacement :) [22:37] the .whether adding replacements wording [22:37] implies the 'or reordering' [22:38] but really implies do anything [22:38] not sure how to reword that [22:39] but I do like the werewolf shaking the crap that was vervet of it's foot :D [22:40] probably a comma does the job -> Edit your user menus, whether adding applications, directories, separators to the menu layout,or reordering menu items. [22:44] pushed something === SwissBot_ is now known as SwissBot