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ovidiu-florinRiddell: this link is not good? http://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-shirts/05:50
ovidiu-florinit's in the footer05:50
lordievader Good morning.05:58
soeegood morning06:16
lordievadero/06:17
sgclarkmorning06:50
lordievaderHey sgclark 06:51
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Riddellovidiu-florin: ah yes that looks cool08:39
Riddellsgclark: how's Switzerland?08:40
ovidiu-florinRiddell: it was there all along08:41
Riddellovidiu-florin: yes, my mistake, thanks08:41
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BluesKajHi all10:34
sebasDoes anyone have a working kmail in Wily?10:38
sebasIt doesn't connect to Akonadi for me10:38
sebas(but it does start akonadi)10:38
sebasor rather, it connect to akonadi, but doesn't hide the grey overlay and doesn't show folders10:39
sgclarkRiddell: beautiful... 11:06
sgclarkinternet is a bit unstable11:06
sgclarkAnyway, my last upgrade rendered my Wily unusable. Even sitter could not fix it! just an fyi be wary on upgrades.11:07
BluesKajsgclark,not unusable here, but some freezing when altering wallpapers and changes to backgrounds like the login screen etc, after latest kernel upgrade. 11:16
BluesKajthe login is too different for my taste, and the colours are over the top IMO11:26
BluesKajand we don't seem to have any other options yet 11:27
sittersebas: did you talk to dvratil already?12:07
sebasno12:09
sebasseems an integration-level problem, it's "supposed to work" 12:09
shadeslayerRiddell: sitter FYI we have a random catdoc package on the ISO13:03
shadeslayerpulled in by libkf5filemetadata-bin I think13:03
Riddellshadeslayer: why is that random? it's needed for kfilemetadata13:03
shadeslayer0.o13:04
shadeslayerjebus13:04
shadeslayerwhy does a library depend on a application q_q13:05
shadeslayerthe world is upside down13:05
shadeslayerRiddell: shouldn't it be a recommends rather than a depends?13:06
yofelblame the person that invented -bin13:06
* yofel read catdog on first glance...13:06
Riddellshadeslayer: I don't think so, the library seemed to assume it was there when I looked at it13:06
Riddelldoes it cause problems?13:06
shadeslayerRiddell: I have a random thing on my system that makes no sense :P13:06
shadeslayerto me13:06
shadeslayerRiddell: fwiw how I read the code13:07
shadeslayer1) Find catdoc at runtime13:07
shadeslayer2) if catdoc is found, add mimetype support for word docs13:08
Riddell"    // Find the executables of catdoc, catppt and xls2csv. If an executable cannot13:08
Riddell    // be found, indexing its corresponding MIME type will be disabled"13:08
shadeslayerRight13:08
shadeslayerhttps://paste.kde.org/ptukrtpim13:08
Riddellright so I guess it can be a recommend, but what problem does it cause?13:08
shadeslayerRiddell: I want to remove catdoc :P13:08
shadeslayerI won't ever use it13:08
Riddellmay your xls files be forever unindexed13:09
shadeslayer*shrug*13:09
Riddellgo wild then and put it to recommends13:09
shadeslayerI don't use OO stuff on my computer anyway13:09
shadeslayerall in the cloud that is13:09
shadeslayerwho has experience with tightvncviewer13:10
shadeslayerI be needing help13:10
shadeslayerRiddell: DonVitoCorleone13:10
shadeslayerbrr13:10
shadeslayerRiddell: done13:10
RiddellI just used it on ec2 machines13:11
Riddellbut it stopped being usable with plasma 513:11
shadeslayerhm13:11
shadeslayerRiddell: can I make it stop trying to authenticate13:11
shadeslayeror well13:12
Riddellno I think it always needs a password13:12
shadeslayer>.>13:12
shadeslayergreat13:12
Riddellcyphermox: network-manager still failing tests? do you know what's up there?14:25
BluesKajRiddell, on wily beta? NM  is fine here on ethernet at least14:29
* BluesKaj checks vpn connection14:31
RiddellBluesKaj: right but the newer version is stuck in -proposed14:37
Riddellximion: so you have an appstream package I should get into ubuntu?14:38
ximionRiddell: yes, that would be https://launchpad.net/~ximion/+archive/ubuntu/packagekit/+sourcepub/5368271/+listing-archive-extra (needs review)14:41
Riddellximion: what can use it at the minute?14:41
ximionand the appstream source package would need to be updated to 0.8.3 or higher14:41
ximion(hint: there is no higher version yet ^^)14:41
Riddellhmm, currently 0.8.214:42
ximionRiddell: right now, GNOME-Software (not in Ubuntu) and Muon if compiled with AppStream support (which it isn't)14:42
Riddellhmm, but maybe we want to compile it with appstream support since app-install-data is crap14:42
ximionso including it makes sense for Wily+1 or if you package a more recent version of Muon which makes more use of AppStream later14:42
BluesKajRiddell, ok thanks , i'm staying away from proposed 14:43
Riddellbut does appstream work with apt yet?14:43
ximionexactly, so including it would be more of a future-proffing activity14:43
ximionno, but it doesn't need to with the appstream-data package14:43
ximion(it's the same way we ship the data in Tanglu)14:43
ximionfor it to be downloaded by Apt, Launchpad will need to support the stuff, which might take a while14:44
Riddellximion: I'm confused by that, if you compile muon with appstream it uses packagekit right? else it uses apt and app-install-data?14:44
ximionRiddell: btw, one weird thing that happens: the AppStream generator on the Kubuntu machine seems to be unable to download any screenshot => http://appstream.kubuntu.co.uk/html/wily/main/issues/gparted.html14:45
ximionI have no idea why this happens14:45
ximion(since it works well on the Debian machine, I also haven't investigated it yet)14:45
Riddellhmm, is the server locked down? can you wget from it?14:45
ximionRiddell: yes, that's a design-decision of Muon upstream, which doesn't make sense - you could use AppStream with QApt just as well14:46
ximionI talked to apol, and when we split KDE Discover out of Muon, this will be made sane14:46
ximionI can git clone, but I haven't checked wget14:46
ximionthe only other difference is a difference in python versions14:47
ximionbtw, your app-install-data hasn't been updated for a year :P14:50
ximion(so it likely doesn't include any changes from the KF5  era)14:50
Riddellmm, pinged mvo15:06
Riddell<mvo> Riddell: uh, no packagekit, no, sorry. but I can do app-install-data15:07
Riddellhmm well 50% is better than nothing15:07
ahoneybunRiddell: can you add my ssh keys to docs.kubuntu.org please: https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+sshkeys15:12
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Riddellahoneybun: done15:57
ahoneybunthanks15:57
RiddellI'd like to move that server to scaleway, they do decent server for 3euro a month15:57
ahoneybunok its up to who pays the bills XD15:57
ahoneybunwait this is holding the qa stuff too?15:58
ahoneybunI'm not in the sudoers file?16:00
ahoneybunRiddell: I don't have permission in /var/www16:07
Riddellahoneybun: you can sudo?16:08
ahoneybunpretty such no16:08
ahoneybunI tried to make a dir in there to no luck16:08
Riddellahoneybun: what are you wanting to edit?16:08
ahoneybunI'm trying to add a dir : docs.kubuntu.org with the new sphinx16:08
ahoneybunI have it setup here: http://192.254.78.155/16:08
Riddellahoneybun: your user does have sudo access16:09
ahoneybunyea I16:09
ahoneybun*yea16:09
Riddellahoneybun: you want to make a new site set up in apache by copying this file and changing the directory /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/docs.kubuntu.org16:09
Riddellso copy that to /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/docsnew.kubuntu.org16:09
Riddellchange the domain and directory16:10
ahoneybunmmm16:10
Riddellput it in ~kubuntu/docsnew16:10
ahoneybunI have no permision16:10
Riddelland ask me to setup a suitable domain name for you16:10
Riddellwhat command are you trying to run?16:10
ahoneybunscp16:10
ahoneybunto copy my dir from my computer16:10
ahoneybunit has some html,css and javascript files16:11
Riddellscp it into ~ahoneybun16:11
ahoneybun?16:11
Riddellthen sudo cp into ~kubuntu/newdocs/16:11
ahoneybun~ahoneybun?16:11
Riddellyes, that's your user's home directory16:11
ahoneybunoh ok16:11
ahoneybunmoving now16:12
ahoneybunRiddell: manual.kubuntu.org?16:12
ahoneybunbut docs is shorter16:12
Riddellahoneybun: I assume this will replace docs.kubuntu.org no?16:13
ahoneybundone16:13
ahoneybunwell I wanted to add onto it16:13
ahoneybunso docs.kubuntu.org will look like: http://192.254.78.155/16:13
ahoneybunI kinda wanted to keep docs.kubuntu.org domain16:14
ahoneybununless we need .co.uk for some reason16:14
Riddellright but it'll replace the content16:14
ahoneybunthe dir is in ~ahoneybun16:14
ahoneybunyea16:14
Riddellahoneybun: voila http://docsnew.kubuntu.co.uk/16:17
RiddellI copied the files into ~kubuntu/ahoneybun/16:18
Riddelland set up that domain name on my 123reg account16:18
ahoneybunnice thanks Riddell16:18
Riddelland set up /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/docsnew.kubuntu.co.uk16:18
Riddelland when you're happy with it we can just switch round the  settings in those apache config files16:19
ahoneybunmm16:19
ahoneybuna bit confused on that16:19
Riddellon what?"16:19
ahoneybunand I can't change things in /etc16:19
ahoneybunneed sudo16:19
Riddellyou have sudo16:19
ahoneybunoh 16:19
ahoneybunok16:19
ahoneybunso /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/docs.kubuntu.org ?16:19
ahoneybunsomething do with that16:20
Riddellthat just needs DocumentRoot changed when it's ready to go16:21
ahoneybunroot?16:21
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ovidiu-florinRiddell: you around?18:41
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ahoneybunovidiu-florin: http://docsnew.kubuntu.co.uk/19:02
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: I learned about OBS from you so no clue19:05
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: let's take this to the podcast channel19:05
Riddellhi ovidiu-florin20:29
soee_oh there is SDDM 0.12.0, will it get into wily ?20:33
* ahoneybun wants 0.12.020:54
* ahoneybun downloads everything to build sddm, don't hold me to it21:10
Riddellahoneybun: go for it :)21:24
ahoneybunRiddell: I am but I'm getting a error about debhelper21:25
ahoneybung2g I'll be back later, going to walk around the mall a but21:25
ahoneybun*bit21:25
ScottKahoneybun: it's packaged in Debian, so merge from that.21:34
soeePlasma is crazy .. it kicks me to sddm or shutdown my system oO23:13
soeeyofel: i'v added my comment here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/149286423:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1492864 in nvidia-prime (Ubuntu) "Fails to load nvidia, fails to fallback to intel properly" [Undecided,Confirmed]23:41

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