[05:50] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: this link is not good? http://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-shirts/
[05:50] <ovidiu-florin> it's in the footer
[05:58] <lordievader>  Good morning.
[06:16] <soee> good morning
[06:17] <lordievader> o/
[06:50] <sgclark> morning
[06:51] <lordievader> Hey sgclark 
[08:39] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: ah yes that looks cool
[08:40] <Riddell> sgclark: how's Switzerland?
[08:41] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: it was there all along
[08:41] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: yes, my mistake, thanks
[10:34] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[10:38] <sebas> Does anyone have a working kmail in Wily?
[10:38] <sebas> It doesn't connect to Akonadi for me
[10:38] <sebas> (but it does start akonadi)
[10:39] <sebas> or rather, it connect to akonadi, but doesn't hide the grey overlay and doesn't show folders
[11:06] <sgclark> Riddell: beautiful... 
[11:06] <sgclark> internet is a bit unstable
[11:07] <sgclark> Anyway, my last upgrade rendered my Wily unusable. Even sitter could not fix it! just an fyi be wary on upgrades.
[11:16] <BluesKaj> sgclark,not unusable here, but some freezing when altering wallpapers and changes to backgrounds like the login screen etc, after latest kernel upgrade. 
[11:26] <BluesKaj> the login is too different for my taste, and the colours are over the top IMO
[11:27] <BluesKaj> and we don't seem to have any other options yet 
[12:07] <sitter> sebas: did you talk to dvratil already?
[12:09] <sebas> no
[12:09] <sebas> seems an integration-level problem, it's "supposed to work" 
[13:03] <shadeslayer> Riddell: sitter FYI we have a random catdoc package on the ISO
[13:03] <shadeslayer> pulled in by libkf5filemetadata-bin I think
[13:03] <Riddell> shadeslayer: why is that random? it's needed for kfilemetadata
[13:04] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[13:04] <shadeslayer> jebus
[13:05] <shadeslayer> why does a library depend on a application q_q
[13:05] <shadeslayer> the world is upside down
[13:06] <shadeslayer> Riddell: shouldn't it be a recommends rather than a depends?
[13:06] <yofel> blame the person that invented -bin
[13:06]  * yofel read catdog on first glance...
[13:06] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I don't think so, the library seemed to assume it was there when I looked at it
[13:06] <Riddell> does it cause problems?
[13:06] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I have a random thing on my system that makes no sense :P
[13:06] <shadeslayer> to me
[13:07] <shadeslayer> Riddell: fwiw how I read the code
[13:07] <shadeslayer> 1) Find catdoc at runtime
[13:08] <shadeslayer> 2) if catdoc is found, add mimetype support for word docs
[13:08] <Riddell> "    // Find the executables of catdoc, catppt and xls2csv. If an executable cannot
[13:08] <Riddell>     // be found, indexing its corresponding MIME type will be disabled"
[13:08] <shadeslayer> Right
[13:08] <shadeslayer> https://paste.kde.org/ptukrtpim
[13:08] <Riddell> right so I guess it can be a recommend, but what problem does it cause?
[13:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I want to remove catdoc :P
[13:08] <shadeslayer> I won't ever use it
[13:09] <Riddell> may your xls files be forever unindexed
[13:09] <shadeslayer> *shrug*
[13:09] <Riddell> go wild then and put it to recommends
[13:09] <shadeslayer> I don't use OO stuff on my computer anyway
[13:09] <shadeslayer> all in the cloud that is
[13:10] <shadeslayer> who has experience with tightvncviewer
[13:10] <shadeslayer> I be needing help
[13:10] <shadeslayer> Riddell: DonVitoCorleone
[13:10] <shadeslayer> brr
[13:10] <shadeslayer> Riddell: done
[13:11] <Riddell> I just used it on ec2 machines
[13:11] <Riddell> but it stopped being usable with plasma 5
[13:11] <shadeslayer> hm
[13:11] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can I make it stop trying to authenticate
[13:12] <shadeslayer> or well
[13:12] <Riddell> no I think it always needs a password
[13:12] <shadeslayer> >.>
[13:12] <shadeslayer> great
[14:25] <Riddell> cyphermox: network-manager still failing tests? do you know what's up there?
[14:29] <BluesKaj> Riddell, on wily beta? NM  is fine here on ethernet at least
[14:31]  * BluesKaj checks vpn connection
[14:37] <Riddell> BluesKaj: right but the newer version is stuck in -proposed
[14:38] <Riddell> ximion: so you have an appstream package I should get into ubuntu?
[14:41] <ximion> Riddell: yes, that would be https://launchpad.net/~ximion/+archive/ubuntu/packagekit/+sourcepub/5368271/+listing-archive-extra (needs review)
[14:41] <Riddell> ximion: what can use it at the minute?
[14:41] <ximion> and the appstream source package would need to be updated to 0.8.3 or higher
[14:41] <ximion> (hint: there is no higher version yet ^^)
[14:42] <Riddell> hmm, currently 0.8.2
[14:42] <ximion> Riddell: right now, GNOME-Software (not in Ubuntu) and Muon if compiled with AppStream support (which it isn't)
[14:42] <Riddell> hmm, but maybe we want to compile it with appstream support since app-install-data is crap
[14:42] <ximion> so including it makes sense for Wily+1 or if you package a more recent version of Muon which makes more use of AppStream later
[14:43] <BluesKaj> Riddell, ok thanks , i'm staying away from proposed 
[14:43] <Riddell> but does appstream work with apt yet?
[14:43] <ximion> exactly, so including it would be more of a future-proffing activity
[14:43] <ximion> no, but it doesn't need to with the appstream-data package
[14:43] <ximion> (it's the same way we ship the data in Tanglu)
[14:44] <ximion> for it to be downloaded by Apt, Launchpad will need to support the stuff, which might take a while
[14:44] <Riddell> ximion: I'm confused by that, if you compile muon with appstream it uses packagekit right? else it uses apt and app-install-data?
[14:45] <ximion> Riddell: btw, one weird thing that happens: the AppStream generator on the Kubuntu machine seems to be unable to download any screenshot => http://appstream.kubuntu.co.uk/html/wily/main/issues/gparted.html
[14:45] <ximion> I have no idea why this happens
[14:45] <ximion> (since it works well on the Debian machine, I also haven't investigated it yet)
[14:45] <Riddell> hmm, is the server locked down? can you wget from it?
[14:46] <ximion> Riddell: yes, that's a design-decision of Muon upstream, which doesn't make sense - you could use AppStream with QApt just as well
[14:46] <ximion> I talked to apol, and when we split KDE Discover out of Muon, this will be made sane
[14:46] <ximion> I can git clone, but I haven't checked wget
[14:47] <ximion> the only other difference is a difference in python versions
[14:50] <ximion> btw, your app-install-data hasn't been updated for a year :P
[14:50] <ximion> (so it likely doesn't include any changes from the KF5  era)
[15:06] <Riddell> mm, pinged mvo
 Riddell: uh, no packagekit, no, sorry. but I can do app-install-data
[15:07] <Riddell> hmm well 50% is better than nothing
[15:12] <ahoneybun> Riddell: can you add my ssh keys to docs.kubuntu.org please: https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+sshkeys
[15:57] <Riddell> ahoneybun: done
[15:57] <ahoneybun> thanks
[15:57] <Riddell> I'd like to move that server to scaleway, they do decent server for 3euro a month
[15:57] <ahoneybun> ok its up to who pays the bills XD
[15:58] <ahoneybun> wait this is holding the qa stuff too?
[16:00] <ahoneybun> I'm not in the sudoers file?
[16:07] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I don't have permission in /var/www
[16:08] <Riddell> ahoneybun: you can sudo?
[16:08] <ahoneybun> pretty such no
[16:08] <ahoneybun> I tried to make a dir in there to no luck
[16:08] <Riddell> ahoneybun: what are you wanting to edit?
[16:08] <ahoneybun> I'm trying to add a dir : docs.kubuntu.org with the new sphinx
[16:08] <ahoneybun> I have it setup here: http://192.254.78.155/
[16:09] <Riddell> ahoneybun: your user does have sudo access
[16:09] <ahoneybun> yea I
[16:09] <ahoneybun> *yea
[16:09] <Riddell> ahoneybun: you want to make a new site set up in apache by copying this file and changing the directory /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/docs.kubuntu.org
[16:09] <Riddell> so copy that to /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/docsnew.kubuntu.org
[16:10] <Riddell> change the domain and directory
[16:10] <ahoneybun> mmm
[16:10] <Riddell> put it in ~kubuntu/docsnew
[16:10] <ahoneybun> I have no permision
[16:10] <Riddell> and ask me to setup a suitable domain name for you
[16:10] <Riddell> what command are you trying to run?
[16:10] <ahoneybun> scp
[16:10] <ahoneybun> to copy my dir from my computer
[16:11] <ahoneybun> it has some html,css and javascript files
[16:11] <Riddell> scp it into ~ahoneybun
[16:11] <ahoneybun> ?
[16:11] <Riddell> then sudo cp into ~kubuntu/newdocs/
[16:11] <ahoneybun> ~ahoneybun?
[16:11] <Riddell> yes, that's your user's home directory
[16:11] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[16:12] <ahoneybun> moving now
[16:12] <ahoneybun> Riddell: manual.kubuntu.org?
[16:12] <ahoneybun> but docs is shorter
[16:13] <Riddell> ahoneybun: I assume this will replace docs.kubuntu.org no?
[16:13] <ahoneybun> done
[16:13] <ahoneybun> well I wanted to add onto it
[16:13] <ahoneybun> so docs.kubuntu.org will look like: http://192.254.78.155/
[16:14] <ahoneybun> I kinda wanted to keep docs.kubuntu.org domain
[16:14] <ahoneybun> unless we need .co.uk for some reason
[16:14] <Riddell> right but it'll replace the content
[16:14] <ahoneybun> the dir is in ~ahoneybun
[16:14] <ahoneybun> yea
[16:17] <Riddell> ahoneybun: voila http://docsnew.kubuntu.co.uk/
[16:18] <Riddell> I copied the files into ~kubuntu/ahoneybun/
[16:18] <Riddell> and set up that domain name on my 123reg account
[16:18] <ahoneybun> nice thanks Riddell
[16:18] <Riddell> and set up /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/docsnew.kubuntu.co.uk
[16:19] <Riddell> and when you're happy with it we can just switch round the  settings in those apache config files
[16:19] <ahoneybun> mm
[16:19] <ahoneybun> a bit confused on that
[16:19] <Riddell> on what?"
[16:19] <ahoneybun> and I can't change things in /etc
[16:19] <ahoneybun> need sudo
[16:19] <Riddell> you have sudo
[16:19] <ahoneybun> oh 
[16:19] <ahoneybun> ok
[16:19] <ahoneybun> so /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/docs.kubuntu.org ?
[16:20] <ahoneybun> something do with that
[16:21] <Riddell> that just needs DocumentRoot changed when it's ready to go
[16:21] <ahoneybun> root?
[18:41] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: you around?
[19:02] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: http://docsnew.kubuntu.co.uk/
[19:05] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: I learned about OBS from you so no clue
[19:05] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: let's take this to the podcast channel
[20:29] <Riddell> hi ovidiu-florin
[20:33] <soee_> oh there is SDDM 0.12.0, will it get into wily ?
[20:54]  * ahoneybun wants 0.12.0
[21:10]  * ahoneybun downloads everything to build sddm, don't hold me to it
[21:24] <Riddell> ahoneybun: go for it :)
[21:25] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I am but I'm getting a error about debhelper
[21:25] <ahoneybun> g2g I'll be back later, going to walk around the mall a but
[21:25] <ahoneybun> *bit
[21:34] <ScottK> ahoneybun: it's packaged in Debian, so merge from that.
[23:13] <soee> Plasma is crazy .. it kicks me to sddm or shutdown my system oO
[23:41] <soee> yofel: i'v added my comment here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1492864