[07:11] <fgimenez> good morning
[07:14] <dholbach> good morning
[08:28] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Buy a Book Day! 😃
[08:29]  * Chipaca buys a book
[08:31] <JamesTait> Which book, Chipaca?
[08:32] <Chipaca> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0356502422
[08:45] <Chipaca> JamesTait: although some would call it the promise of a book
[08:46] <JamesTait> Chipaca, isn't that true any time you order something for delivery?
[08:46] <Chipaca> JamesTait: get off with you and your logical thinking
[08:47] <JamesTait> "Take my money, and promise me you'll post the item to me."
[11:52] <asac> how can i get a core dump on snappy? e.g. how to set where it will write it etc?
[11:59] <sergiusens> asac, I think we want to set /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern to something more useful than 'core'
[12:00] <sergiusens> but that as far as my knowledge goes, maybe pitti or ogra_ can chime in
[12:00] <sergiusens> on desktop (and I guess phone), it's piped to apport
[12:00] <ogra_> well, we dont ship apport ...
[12:00] <ogra_> so i'm not sure
[12:01] <ogra_> you might be able to trigger a core dump but i dont think it would be processed
[12:03] <sergiusens> ogra_, the pattern is set to 'core', maybe we want a fixed path
[12:04] <ogra_> yeah
[12:04] <sergiusens> ogra_, since the working dir would be the snapdir in most cases
[12:11] <ogra_> sergiusens, well, i'd dump it to /run or /tmp (in the respective snap subdir)
[12:12] <ogra_> not sure if thats possible though, /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern is a global thing, nt sure it takes variables
[12:12] <ogra_> (beyond tthe defined ones)
[12:14] <sergiusens> ogra_, we can pipe it into somehting that would understand the variables, but yeah, would be complicated
[12:16] <ogra_> ah, right ... we could call that thing we pipe into "apport" :)
[12:16] <ogra_> or probably better "snapport" :)
[12:19] <sergiusens> ;-)
[12:37] <sergiusens> mvo, did you have any time to check my MP?
[12:59] <asac> ogra_: sergiusens: i am sure it wouldnt be processed, but if we know how to enable to dump it that would already help
[13:00] <ogra_> echo "/tmp/core.%e.%p" > /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern
[13:00] <ogra_> as root
[13:00] <asac> how much space do we have in /tmp usually? enough for any reasonable dump:
[13:00] <ogra_> that would dump it to /tmp/core.$executable.$pid
[13:00] <asac> ?
[13:01] <ogra_> dunno, else point to somewhere in /writable
[13:01] <ogra_> the kernel wont care
[13:03] <ogra_> asac, /tmp is a tmpfs ... so limited to ram size indeed
[13:04] <asac> ogra_: is there another presistent directory that also has the /tmp properties of getting wiped from time to time?
[13:06] <mvo> sergiusens: not yet, sorry, I do that now
[13:08] <miken> Hi mvo o/
[13:08] <miken> If anyone has time for a quick review, I wrote this doc update last week - https://code.launchpad.net/~michael.nelson/snapcraft/fix-golang-tutorial-to-match-changes-from-r132/+merge/270131
[13:08] <mvo> hey miken
[13:08] <ogra_> asac, /var/log ? and a logrotate rule ?
[13:09] <ogra_> i.e. /var/log/core ... and have files wiped regulary ...
[13:09] <ogra_> ... or by size or whatever
[13:24] <asac> ogra_: how are we doing logrotate?
[13:44] <sergiusens> elopio, hey, how do you feel about rebasing your symlinks branches on top of the repo one?
[14:33] <elopio> sergiusens: no problem.
[14:33] <elopio> fgimenez: lets meet tomorrow.
[14:34] <fgimenez> elopio, ok np
[14:35] <sergiusens> elopio, thanks!
[14:36] <elopio> ogra_: how do I generate the init img from this initramfs-tools-ubuntu-core branch?
[14:48] <dholbach> hey hey sergiusens, do you remember if there was any discussion about allowing packages being pulled from PPAs for snapcraft?
[14:48] <beuno> dholbach, hi
[14:49] <dholbach> hey beuno
[14:50] <sergiusens> dholbach, yes there was; not sure how to cleanly do this yet
[14:51] <dholbach> sergiusens, should I file a bug for it?
[14:52] <sergiusens> dholbach, I think there is a task for it already on trello
[14:53] <dholbach> hum.......is there a separate trello board for snapcraft?
[14:53] <sergiusens> dholbach, no, it has it's own lane
[14:55] <dholbach> ah yes, found
[15:43] <guest42315> uuu mycroft kicks a$$ :P http://i.imgur.com/cCrM6Nj.png
[15:46] <ogra_> :D
[18:44] <sergiusens> elopio, this mp has your name all over it :-P https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/snapcraft/yaml_init/+merge/270325
[18:45] <elopio> sergiusens: I'm already looking at it. I'm too fast for you :p
[18:45] <sergiusens> elopio, \o/
[18:45] <sergiusens> elopio, slow Monday I guess ;-)
[20:50] <sergiusens> elopio, https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/snapcraft/yaml-tabs/+merge/270331