| === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang | ||
| xubuntu81w | hello all' | 01:51 |
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| holstein | o/ | 01:51 |
| xubuntu81w | got a serious issue | 01:51 |
| xubuntu81w | on my 14.04 install | 01:51 |
| xubuntu81w | it wont let me update and freezes after about 5 mins after logging in | 01:51 |
| xubuntu81w | it started freezing after it quit updating | 01:51 |
| holstein | sounds like something where i would want to test the hardware, a bit.. | 01:52 |
| xubuntu81w | it gets an x org error | 01:52 |
| holstein | stopping an update is a bad idea.. but, that could be due to a hard drive issue, or who knows | 01:52 |
| xubuntu81w | but i can't change the display driver | 01:52 |
| holstein | what i would do is, not bother with any drivers, at all.. | 01:52 |
| holstein | i would make the update complete.. in tty if necessary | 01:52 |
| holstein | !tty | 01:52 |
| ubottu | To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login). To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution | 01:52 |
| holstein | if i cant get that to happen, i would test the hard drive and memory, and see if its overheating.. talk about why the update failed the first time, and go from there.. | 01:53 |
| xubuntu81w | how do i find out why the system does not update, it says failure on removing packages | 01:54 |
| holstein | xubuntu81w: im saying, i would make the update complete.. i would use tty to do that, if i cant login | 01:54 |
| holstein | xubuntu81w: i would share, why the update failed the first time. why did you stop it.. | 01:54 |
| xubuntu81w | did not stop it | 01:54 |
| xubuntu81w | it just errored | 01:54 |
| xubuntu81w | then would start to freeze a couple weeks later | 01:55 |
| holstein | xubuntu81w: you said, "it quit updating" | 01:55 |
| holstein | xubuntu81w: what does that mean? it quite updating? when? | 01:55 |
| xubuntu81w | it would not update any more | 01:55 |
| holstein | xubuntu81w: what was the error, friend? | 01:55 |
| xubuntu81w | just gave an error "saying can't remove package" | 01:55 |
| holstein | xubuntu81w: cant remove what package? | 01:55 |
| xubuntu81w | thats what i need to find out | 01:55 |
| xubuntu81w | where to look | 01:56 |
| holstein | xubuntu81w: anyways, nm that.. just open a terminal, and use this command.. "sudo apt-get update" | 01:56 |
| holstein | !paste | 01:56 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 01:56 |
| holstein | to share error output.. share the entire output if you dont know | 01:56 |
| xubuntu81w | ok cool | 01:56 |
| holstein | then, if no errors, run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and share errors.. | 01:56 |
| xubuntu81w | ok, i am in windows 10, let me reboot into xubuntu | 01:57 |
| xubuntu81w | brb | 01:57 |
| xubuntu81w | yeah so here is the error, apt-get update worked , but errored on dist-upgrade | 02:04 |
| xubuntu81w | Preconfiguring packages ... dpkg: error: reading package info file '/var/lib/dpkg/available': Input/output error E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) | 02:04 |
| holstein | xubuntu81w: worked? you mean, "sudo apt-get update" completed without error? | 02:05 |
| xubuntu81w | yeah | 02:05 |
| xubuntu81w | sudo apt-get update did not have any errors | 02:05 |
| xubuntu81w | if i have to reboot, its because the os can freeze at any time | 02:05 |
| holstein | xubuntu81w: if the OS is freezing, that would make me want to test the memory and hard drive.. have you? | 02:06 |
| xubuntu81w | how to test hard drive? | 02:06 |
| holstein | xubuntu81w: i use gsmartcontrol from a live instance | 02:06 |
| xubuntu81w | is gsmartcontrol on a live xbuntu instance | 02:07 |
| xubuntu81w | *xubuntu | 02:07 |
| xubuntu81w | i think it is the drive | 02:07 |
| holstein | xubuntu81w: i have no idea if it ships with it, but, i install it if its not there | 02:07 |
| xubuntu81w | it is a new 1 tb from best buy | 02:08 |
| xubuntu81w | but I installed mint 17.1 and it also locked up randomly | 02:08 |
| holstein | right.. which, makes me think its hardware.. doesnt it you? | 02:08 |
| xubuntu81w | but this install of xubuntu worked for like 2 months just fine | 02:08 |
| xubuntu81w | then now cant remove packages | 02:09 |
| === ubott2 is now known as ubottu | ||
| holstein | xubuntu81w: thats not the error i read | 02:09 |
| xubuntu81w | but it does give me an xorg error when it locks up | 02:09 |
| holstein | xubuntu81w: please give *entire* error messages | 02:09 |
| holstein | !paste | 02:09 |
| xubuntu81w | should i do a fresh install of xubuntu | 02:09 |
| holstein | xubuntu81w: i would test my hard drive.. | 02:09 |
| xubuntu81w | can i just do it inside xubuntu | 02:10 |
| xubuntu81w | or do i have to do it through a live instance | 02:10 |
| holstein | xubuntu81w: i dont. i want a good test from a live instance | 02:10 |
| holstein | xubuntu81w: you can do what you like, but, im telling you how i do it, to get the proper result i want/need | 02:10 |
| xubuntu81w | yeah, it wont install anything | 02:11 |
| xubuntu81w | error on installation | 02:11 |
| xubuntu81w | hmmmm | 02:12 |
| holstein | xubuntu81w: you need to stop trying to install things | 02:12 |
| holstein | xubuntu81w: you'll have to get "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" issues fixed.. you can share the *entire* error with me, and i can look, if you like | 02:12 |
| holstein | xubuntu81w: nothing will work, package management-wise, with your system broken, as it is | 02:12 |
| holstein | its broken, and wont do anything.. no need to try and install, or remove, or fix drivers. you have to fix the errors with the packages first | 02:13 |
| xubuntu81w | yeah, this thing is really messed up graphically to | 02:14 |
| xubuntu81w | bunch of black boxes opening | 02:14 |
| xubuntu81w | *too | 02:14 |
| holstein | xubuntu81w: sounds like something, again, that would make be get a live iso out, and test the memory, and hard drive | 02:14 |
| holstein | but, it could be anything.. i dont know what you were installing before the breakage.. | 02:14 |
| xubuntu81w | thanks, will do, be back in a bit, thanks for all the help | 02:15 |
| xubuntu81w | lots of things | 02:15 |
| xubuntu81w | mainly themes, and icon sets | 02:15 |
| xubuntu81w | i think i broke it | 02:15 |
| holstein | well, if you broke the install, then, there is nothing wrong with the hard drive, likely | 02:15 |
| xubuntu81w | next time i won't try to get different looking icon sets | 02:15 |
| holstein | you can.. you can just ask about how to install what it is you are looking for, before | 02:16 |
| holstein | but, you said mint and ubuntu are both bad, on the same drive.. | 02:16 |
| xubuntu81w | yeah | 02:16 |
| xubuntu81w | its weird | 02:16 |
| xubuntu81w | but xubuntu was fine for 2 months, but I was putting lots of icon sets and themes on | 02:16 |
| xubuntu81w | so I'm not sure if it was me or the drive, but why would it go for so long with no lock up | 02:17 |
| xubuntu81w | mint had weird errors | 02:17 |
| xubuntu81w | like really really slow downs | 02:17 |
| holstein | what would i do? test, to be sure... then, move on to paste the *exact* error messages here | 02:17 |
| xubuntu81w | and Ubuntu also | 02:17 |
| holstein | xubuntu81w: that can be due to a GPU driver.. | 02:17 |
| xubuntu81w | ok, cool, be back in a sec | 02:17 |
| holstein | xubuntu *is* ubuntu | 02:17 |
| xubuntu81w | hmmmm | 02:17 |
| xubuntu81w | yeah and the error i get before lock up is xorg error | 02:18 |
| xubuntu81w | and everytime on a reboot | 02:18 |
| holstein | error? or message? | 02:18 |
| xubuntu81w | can i do a restore on the system | 02:18 |
| holstein | anyways, i need the *exact* messages.. | 02:18 |
| holstein | xubuntu81w: you should have backups, regardless.. then, you can restore as you please | 02:19 |
| xubuntu81w | is there a log file with all error messages | 02:19 |
| xubuntu81w | ? | 02:19 |
| holstein | there are many log files.. | 02:19 |
| holstein | http://askubuntu.com/questions/186276/where-are-all-the-major-log-files-located | 02:19 |
| xubuntu81w | ah found them | 02:22 |
| xubuntu81w | sweet | 02:23 |
| xubuntu81w | how to restore to previous date, or is that possible | 02:26 |
| xubuntu81w | can i just do a clean install of the os, or will that screw up grub since i have windows 10 on here also | 02:28 |
| holstein | xubuntu81w: many ways. what i do is, i make an image, and i restore that image | 02:34 |
| holstein | xubuntu81w: you can do anything.. but, you should plan on grub, and the entire drive getting "screwed up", and back up what you need | 02:35 |
| * newbeen slaps roniez around a bit with a large fishbot | 08:06 | |
| knome | newbeen? | 08:07 |
| newbeen | lol | 08:11 |
| knome | no, stop doing that. | 08:11 |
| newbeen | so quiet here.. | 08:14 |
| knome | yes, this is a support channel, not a chat. | 08:14 |
| newbeen | ups sorry, my bad | 08:14 |
| xubuntu14w | Hello? | 09:45 |
| xubuntu14w | New user from Windows, how do I remove the grey bar below the start menu and above the tabs bar? It has the close and resize buttons on it | 09:46 |
| xubuntu14w | Can anyone help me? | 09:48 |
| knome | !patience | xubuntu14w | 09:49 |
| ubottu | xubuntu14w: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ | 09:49 |
| knome | well also, you have waited 2 minutes... | 09:49 |
| knome | xubuntu14w, do you mean the area with your username and commands like shutdown and settings or something else? | 09:50 |
| xubuntu14w | Sorry, I was waiting for verbal confirmation so I could know someone was there. knome: It's the bar with the x, +, - buttons and an arrow pointing down. | 09:53 |
| knome | the window titlebar? | 09:53 |
| xubuntu14w | I.. think so? | 09:54 |
| knome | can you send a screenshot? | 09:54 |
| xubuntu14w | Is there a preferred image host here? Or can I use whatever? | 09:56 |
| === Floris is now known as Flory | ||
| knome | the screenshooter can send files directly to imgur, so that's probably the easiest - but you can use whatever | 09:57 |
| knome | (at least in newest releases) | 09:58 |
| xubuntu14w | https://imgur.com/O80Lv54 | 09:59 |
| knome | yes, that's the window title... | 10:00 |
| knome | why would you want to get rid of that? | 10:00 |
| koegs | there are two ways i think, remove title bar on maximize or remove title bar altogether :) | 10:02 |
| xubuntu14w | was hoping to make it look more like windows with the x, +, - buttons on the tab bar | 10:02 |
| koegs | aah, "that" firefox thing | 10:03 |
| knome | xubuntu14w, removing the title bar isn't really a good idea, but some applications do have "CSD" enabled, which basically means they put their controls on the titlebar | 10:03 |
| xubuntu14w | "remove title bar on maximize" how do I do this? Is there a way to change the color of the title bar? | 10:05 |
| auscompgeek | you can change the xfwm4 theme | 10:09 |
| xubuntu14w | Got it, thanks. | 10:10 |
| knome | xubuntu14w, settings manager -> window manager tweaks -> tab accessibility -> "hide titel of windows when maximized" | 10:11 |
| knome | but it of course only affects windows that are maximized... and the controls aren't visible | 10:12 |
| === Rayner is now known as Rayne | ||
| Casper- | hey, how do you make the 'highlight' around the desktop-icons-text, squared (instead of rounded)? | 14:02 |
| Casper- | http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers_years/2012_1/xubuntu-pimp-opaque-icons.jpg | 14:02 |
| Casper- | i like the squared look. (like Numix). i dont like rounded corners :( | 14:03 |
| holstein | Casper-: https://launchpad.net/~numix/+archive/ubuntu/ppa numix maintains a PPA.. | 14:05 |
| Casper- | thanks, but i dont think Numix makes the highlight squared | 14:08 |
| knob | Do you guys knows if apcupsd can turn off the UPS, and then cycle it back-on? | 14:08 |
| holstein | Casper-: i think it'll just be a matter of looking for the theme that implements what you are looking for. http://xfce-look.org/ for example.. | 14:23 |
| holstein | Casper-: im really not sure how easily editable that is, in a theme, but, you can try in a more xfce specific channel.. maybe there, they would be able to tell you how to simple square that look up to your liking | 14:23 |
| Casper- | holstein: i just installed Numix again, doesn't sqaure it. thanks though. i'm thinking its not the theme, that it is some other setting somewhere | 14:25 |
| Casper- | holstein: what is the best channel for editing themes anyway? i like the high contrast of Clearlooks, with the squared-look of numix :) | 14:29 |
| holstein | Casper-: i might try a more general xfce channel.. or, just general xfce documentation.. gtk, etc | 14:30 |
| Casper- | http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=109494 | 14:33 |
| Casper- | ^ that is like a high contrast Numix. Now i'm looking for that, for GTK3 | 14:34 |
| Travis | Hello | 14:38 |
| knome | hello | 14:38 |
| Travis | I was about to ask my question in the wrong channel. | 14:39 |
| knome | congratulations for dodging the bullet | 14:39 |
| Travis | It's a Wine question. | 14:40 |
| knome | i prefer beer. | 14:41 |
| Travis | Looks like I am not getting an answer. | 14:50 |
| knome | well, you haven't asked the question | 14:50 |
| knome | please do that and we'll see if anybody knows the answer | 14:51 |
| Travis | I am having difficulty getting a program to work under Wine. | 14:51 |
| Travis | It gives me an error at the end of the installation. | 14:52 |
| cfhowlett | Travis, no detailz >>>> no anwerz | 14:54 |
| Travis | It didn't give me any error code or anything like that. | 14:54 |
| cfhowlett | Travis, then you should ask the wine channel. | 14:55 |
| Travis | Something about a problem with wine or the program, then a link to the supported program page. | 14:55 |
| * knome tries to turn on his telepathy module but the brain denies | 14:55 | |
| * cfhowlett looks over and sees that Ms. Cleo has taken the night off. | 14:55 | |
| xangua | knome: try sudo apt-get install telepahy-core | 14:55 |
| knome | Travis, if you want help, we need accurate errors, "some app doesn't work with wine and it gives me an error message" isn't helpful at all | 14:55 |
| Travis | I am reinstalling it, to see what it says. | 14:57 |
| Travis | There's a C++ exception and a long register and stack dump | 14:59 |
| knome | !pastebin | Travis | 14:59 |
| ubottu | Travis: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 14:59 |
| Travis | Here's the problem | 15:00 |
| knome | Travis, it would also help if you told what the app was. | 15:00 |
| Travis | I am not on the same computer as the Xubuntu one :D | 15:00 |
| Travis | Paltalk | 15:00 |
| knome | that doesn't get us to the same page, so i think it's better ask again when you are | 15:01 |
| Travis | pastebin.com/TKTpNMZP | 15:02 |
| Travis | oops | 15:02 |
| Travis | pastebin.com/TKTpNMZp | 15:02 |
| Travis | That one | 15:03 |
| knome | Travis, https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=3824 | 15:04 |
| knome | Travis, also, #winehq | 15:04 |
| xangua | if you want to videochat, why don't you use skype or a native linux voip program? | 15:05 |
| Casper- | ring.cx | 15:06 |
| Casper- | VOIP ^ encrypted | 15:06 |
| Travis | Blah | 15:06 |
| Travis | I am on Paltalk most of the time. | 15:07 |
| Travis | Two, it's been something I've been toying with anyway. | 15:07 |
| Travis | Looks like it doesn't work at all. | 15:08 |
| xangua | there is also this Viber app, works better on the phone than Skype and has a Linux desktop client | 15:08 |
| Casper- | Viber is closed source, and not encrypted :( | 15:09 |
| Casper- | for phone: Redphone/Signal | 15:10 |
| Casper- | https://whispersystems.org/ | 15:10 |
| Travis | Looks like Paltalk is no longer able to be ran on Xubuntu, because WINE does not support it. | 15:11 |
| Travis | THis blows | 15:13 |
| xubuntu794 | hey guys | 15:55 |
| xubuntu794 | hey guys, i just installed xubuntu and well when i restart, this is embarassing, it does not restart | 15:56 |
| holstein | xubuntu794: what is it doing? just hanging? or literally not starting up? is there anything happening? any lights, or messages? | 15:57 |
| xubuntu794 | just hanging | 15:58 |
| xubuntu794 | it loops by telling me to | 15:58 |
| holstein | cool.. so, at shutdown, is is just hanging? | 15:58 |
| holstein | i have a laptop here, that, when i select restart, it hangs.. i just try and remember not to select that option | 15:58 |
| xubuntu794 | on boot it loops by telling me to insert hs | 15:58 |
| xubuntu794 | hd | 15:59 |
| holstein | xubuntu794: so, is this at shutdown, it hangs, and doenst shutdown? or, on startup, it hangs and doesnt start? | 15:59 |
| xubuntu794 | on startup it hangs and doesnt start | 15:59 |
| xubuntu794 | it loops a message | 16:00 |
| xubuntu794 | the install is fresh, it's my first reboot and it does not reboot at all | 16:01 |
| xubuntu794 | i did the install myself so thats not the problem and i wiped the cpu before | 16:02 |
| holstein | xubuntu794: cool.. what is the "exact" message? | 16:02 |
| xubuntu794 | ill reboot, leave me a sec | 16:02 |
| holstein | xubuntu794: you likely didnt wipe any "cpu".. you likely mean, you wiped the hard drive? | 16:02 |
| holstein | xubuntu794: anyways, sounds to me like, you installed the OS, but, you may not have gotte grub installed | 16:02 |
| xubuntu794 | i wiped the hd, yes | 16:02 |
| holstein | fromm a live iso, you can simply try repairing grub.. | 16:02 |
| xubuntu794 | yes that is what i beleive | 16:02 |
| holstein | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair for example | 16:03 |
| xubuntu794 | boot repair | 16:03 |
| holstein | but, if you literally pulled a drive off the shelf, that you dont konw anything about, you may want to test it, as, it could be failing and causing the issue.. or, it could be a bios setting preventing the boot | 16:03 |
| xubuntu794 | this is a laptop and the toshiba sign appears | 16:04 |
| xubuntu794 | before i get the message | 16:04 |
| holstein | sure.. thats the bios.. that will appear if you had no hard drive in the machine | 16:04 |
| holstein | that actually supports the theory that you didnt install grub.. or, something about the hardware prevented that.. breakage, safe boot.. bios settings.. etc | 16:05 |
| xubuntu794 | safe boot is off, bios settings are ok | 16:06 |
| holstein | sure.. but, if the hardware doesnt allow you to boot a hard drive with safe boot off, then, you wont be able to boot anything | 16:06 |
| holstein | and, im not saying thats the issue, just that, its something that can break boot.. | 16:06 |
| xubuntu794 | that's my main fear | 16:07 |
| holstein | fear? | 16:07 |
| xubuntu794 | that the hardware won't let grub do it's job | 16:07 |
| holstein | try and just address any fear you have.. take the hard drive to another machine.. tweak the settings.. i mean, its a fresh install, with nothing else on the drive, so, there really is no fear of losing data | 16:08 |
| holstein | i think, from what i read, my steps would be.. test the hard drive. something like gsmartcontrol from live iso.. then, i would simply check that grub is installed, with boot repair, or something else from the live iso.. then, i would look at my bios settings more closely | 16:09 |
| holstein | i know, i had to tweak the ones on this machine to do the same thing.. there *is* a setting in my bios, that looked quite "normal", that, if i choose it, the hard drive doesnt boot | 16:10 |
| xubuntu794 | thanks for the help holstein | 16:11 |
| xubuntu70w | how do you manually install a bootloader | 16:59 |
| GridCube | !grub | 17:00 |
| ubottu | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 | 17:00 |
| GridCube | !bootrepair | 17:01 |
| ubottu | Boot-Repair is a simple tool to repair frequent boot issues you may encounter in Ubuntu. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair for more info. | 17:01 |
| xubuntu70w | i tried boot-repair, i wouldnt ask if i hadnt tried the obvious answer | 17:02 |
| xubuntu70w | boot-repair says i dont have a boot loader | 17:03 |
| GridCube | are you installing from a pendrive? | 17:04 |
| GridCube | grub migh have ended on it | 17:04 |
| GridCube | also | 17:04 |
| GridCube | !uefi | 17:04 |
| ubottu | UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI | 17:04 |
| xubuntu70w | http://paste.ubuntu.com/12308287/ | 17:04 |
| GridCube | everything should be fine xubuntu70w | 17:06 |
| GridCube | what is your issue? | 17:06 |
| xubuntu70w | i cant boot | 17:06 |
| GridCube | how is your efi setup? | 17:07 |
| GridCube | is it on legacy? | 17:07 |
| xubuntu70w | its on UEFI | 17:08 |
| GridCube | try legacy | 17:08 |
| xubuntu70w | ok | 17:08 |
| xubuntu70w | but my grub2 is ok^ | 17:09 |
| GridCube | even though efi shows the ubuntu entry | 17:09 |
| GridCube | so, you get the grub stage | 17:09 |
| GridCube | so the computer boots but then it doesnt load the OS? | 17:09 |
| xubuntu70w | when i boot i get the insert system disk in drive message | 17:10 |
| xubuntu70w | it tried compatibility and uefi just to make sure | 17:10 |
| GridCube | and you dont see the grub stage? | 17:10 |
| xubuntu70w | no i press shift i cant access grub if that is what you are asking | 17:10 |
| GridCube | you can see this http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/sshot-3.png | 17:11 |
| xubuntu70w | no | 17:11 |
| GridCube | thats the grub stage | 17:11 |
| GridCube | its where you choose if load ubuntu or windows | 17:11 |
| xubuntu70w | i dont have windows | 17:11 |
| GridCube | thats irrelevant then | 17:12 |
| GridCube | boot-repair said that the mbr was on sdb | 17:12 |
| xubuntu70w | ye | 17:12 |
| GridCube | your efi might be trying to load from sda | 17:12 |
| xubuntu70w | yes* | 17:12 |
| xubuntu70w | so i would need to redirect it | 17:13 |
| GridCube | try to change that, you migh be able to press F11 or something to force the efi loader to show you a list of booteable devices | 17:13 |
| GridCube | and choose sdb | 17:13 |
| GridCube | you might be able to use boot-repair and tell it to install the boot loader to sda | 17:14 |
| xubuntu70w | ok | 17:15 |
| GridCube | is sdb a harddrive or is it a pendrive? | 17:16 |
| GridCube | oh, it looks like a 16gb pendrive | 17:16 |
| xubuntu70w | it is a partition of my hard drive | 17:17 |
| GridCube | no | 17:17 |
| GridCube | its not | 17:17 |
| xubuntu70w | ok | 17:17 |
| GridCube | if it where a partition it'd be sda1 or sda2 or something, the b means is a whole different drive | 17:18 |
| xubuntu70w | if it is a pendrive then i need to install on sda1 or | 17:18 |
| xubuntu70w | install grub2 on sda* | 17:18 |
| GridCube | look at data dump of bootrepair, sdb has 1 partition sdb1 of 16gb in fat32 | 17:18 |
| GridCube | yes xubuntu70w | 17:19 |
| xubuntu70w | yeah seems like my usb | 17:19 |
| GridCube | use boot repair to install grub on sda :) | 17:20 |
| xubuntu70w | so i should reinstall grub2 with boot-repair and use standard efi file | 17:20 |
| GridCube | yes | 17:20 |
| GridCube | that sounds correct | 17:20 |
| xubuntu70w | and i boot by default on sda1 | 17:21 |
| GridCube | yes | 17:21 |
| GridCube | becuase its your only drive :3 | 17:21 |
| xubuntu70w | boot repair says i boot in da2 | 17:21 |
| xubuntu70w | sda2 | 17:21 |
| xubuntu70w | anyway thanls for the help its really saving my life | 17:22 |
| GridCube | xubuntu70w: just tell it to move to sda | 17:23 |
| GridCube | maybe you need to create an efi partition at the very begining of the drive | 17:23 |
| GridCube | but boot-repair usually takes cares of that | 17:24 |
| xubuntu70w | http://paste.ubuntu.com/12308750/ | 17:24 |
| GridCube | so you have a efi partition at sda1 | 17:25 |
| GridCube | just tell boot-repair to use that | 17:25 |
| xubuntu70w | ok | 17:25 |
| GridCube | >place grub into [sda] | 17:26 |
| GridCube | :3 | 17:26 |
| xubuntu70w | how do i do that | 17:26 |
| xubuntu70w | how do i change the bootpartition that is called | 17:32 |
| xubuntu70w | i can still see with fdisk that sdb is called for boot | 17:33 |
| holstein | i just use bootrepair to reinstall grub as i need, and as it will work best for my system | 17:34 |
| holstein | i do that from a live iso | 17:34 |
| xubuntu70w | i did reinstall grub with boot repair | 17:36 |
| xubuntu70w | but it still calls sdb | 17:36 |
| holstein | it? | 17:38 |
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| crans | anyone know of a way to fix my browser from crashing randomly? youtube won't load whatsover and if it does it takes forever to come up but crashes before a video can play | 21:48 |
| holstein | crans: i would try supported flash, from the chrome browser.. and, also try html5.. check your GPU drivers. etc | 21:48 |
| holstein | http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ see that you are using current flash | 21:49 |
| crans | kk im checking now for the flash version, how do i check my gpu drivers? I just did a fresh install and this is my first time using xubuntu | 21:51 |
| crans | ive got 2gb of ram and a 992mhz processor but scrolling down a webpage is like pulling teeth lol | 21:52 |
| knome | i've noticed turning off "smooth scrolling" helps, at least visually | 21:54 |
| holstein | knome: agreed.. | 21:54 |
| jjlava | Hello, new Xubuntu user here with a quick question, is there a firewall installed in Xubuntu by default? I tried looking for Firestarter in the software center but it's not there. | 21:54 |
| knome | though i always keep that disabled even with more recent machines... | 21:54 |
| knome | jjlava, just iptables, but it isn't set to do anything | 21:55 |
| jjlava | hmm, wondering if I need one, I built this as a spare / backup machine and don't plan to use it for much web surfing. | 21:55 |
| knome | jjlava, http://docs.xubuntu.org/1504/C/guide-keeping-safe.html | 21:57 |
| jjlava | Oh thanks,knome. | 21:58 |
| knome | no problem. the documentation is shipped with each xubuntu release as well, in menu -> help... | 21:58 |
| jjlava | Yeah I just got it up and running... found it... will read it over tonight. I just wondered about the firewall because I couldn't find anything in the repositories. | 22:00 |
| knome | there are many alternatives in the repositories | 22:01 |
| knome | !find firewall | 22:01 |
| ubottu | Found: apf-firewall, arno-iptables-firewall, dtc-xen-firewall, firewall-applet, firewalld | 22:01 |
| knome | !search firewall | 22:02 |
| ubottu | Found: iptables, firewall, guarddog, firestarter, security, portforward, shorewall, ufw | 22:02 |
| knome | !info firestarter | 22:02 |
| ubottu | Package firestarter does not exist in vivid | 22:02 |
| knome | hmm... | 22:02 |
| jjlava | Ah, I didn't notice those when I first searched. Guess I was doing it wrong | 22:02 |
| knome | !info ufw | jjlava | 22:03 |
| ubottu | jjlava: ufw (source: ufw): program for managing a Netfilter firewall. In component main, is standard. Version 0.34~rc-0ubuntu5 (vivid), package size 128 kB, installed size 743 kB | 22:03 |
| jjlava | Thanks much. This is helpful. I used to use Ubuntu but haven't for several years. | 22:03 |
| crans | i typed google.com about 2 mins ago and it still hasn't loaded yet >< | 22:04 |
| knome | jjlava, no problem, enjoy | 22:04 |
| jjlava | already installed knome... I'm impressed as usual by Ubuntu's great initial install... can't wait to start playing around with it again. :) | 22:05 |
| jjlava | thanks all! | 22:08 |
| Lopulus | uu0 | 22:14 |
| crans | im trying to figure out if my graphics card drivers are up to date (not sure how to update them) but whenever I search on firefox it just crashes after a few seconds or when i try to load a page | 22:16 |
| holstein | crans: any page? or specifically flash content? | 22:17 |
| crans | im not sure, because it crashes so quickly i can't even tell. | 22:17 |
| holstein | crans: anyways, i would simply try the google chrome browser.. you can see if that is the issue.. the flash version.. | 22:17 |
| crans | is chromium the xubuntu equivalent? | 22:17 |
| holstein | no | 22:18 |
| holstein | chromium is the open source development version, basically | 22:18 |
| holstein | its not specifically given the latest flash, either.. cant be | 22:18 |
| holstein | thats the issue.. adobe is not giving you current flash for linux.. but, they give it to chrome.. there are ways to get it in chromium, though | 22:19 |
| holstein | that would be my first thing to test.. since, you mention youtube, specifically | 22:19 |
| crans | kk im gonna try downloading the chrome .deb file and installing it now to check | 22:20 |
| knome | crans, why not install chromium from the repository? | 22:20 |
| knome | crans, by installing evertyhing from .debs surely increases your chances on a broken system | 22:20 |
| knome | crans, especially if you don't know what you are doing | 22:21 |
| holstein | agreed.. ^ | 22:21 |
| crans | oh, bc i wanna try the google chrome like you said | 22:21 |
| holstein | !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree | 22:21 |
| ubottu | pepperflashplugin-nonfree (source: pepperflashplugin-nonfree): Pepper Flash Player - browser plugin. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.7ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 10 kB, installed size 69 kB (Only available for i386; amd64) | 22:21 |
| holstein | !info chromium-browser | 22:21 |
| ubottu | chromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium web browser, open-source version of Chrome. In component universe, is optional. Version 43.0.2357.130-0ubuntu0.15.04.1.1174 (vivid), package size 50890 kB, installed size 187747 kB | 22:21 |
| holstein | so, should be as simple as "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install chromium-browser pepperflashplugin-nonfree" | 22:22 |
| holstein | then, you can see if flash is the issue, or no | 22:22 |
| crans | so i download chromium from the repository like you said and when i tried opening it it just popped up with a box saying "the application chromium web browser has closed unexpectedly." | 22:26 |
| holstein | hmm.. well, whats the back story, here? you just installed xubuntu? when? what version? etc | 22:27 |
| crans | im trying to get a computer running for my two little cousins as a surprise so i used some leftover parts and put a pc together that has an old 1ghz processor and 2gb of ram with an ATI sapphire hd 3650 graphics card | 22:28 |
| crans | i just downloaded xubuntu from the xubuntu website for i386 and installed in about 45 mins ago | 22:28 |
| crans | the version is 14.04 | 22:28 |
| crans | when i had windows on it i got an error saying something about a instruction set that wasn't able to install opera so i figured id try ubuntu, that was too slow so i tried gnome and got frustrated and downloaded xubuntu stable instead to see what would work | 22:30 |
| holstein | crans: did you test the hard drive? | 22:30 |
| holstein | could be, bad/failing hard ware.. hard drive, or memory.. etc.. | 22:30 |
| crans | the hard drive was brand new | 22:30 |
| holstein | right.. and, you can search, and confirm that that is a popular time for them to have issues.. when new, or 3 years old? i forget the spec on that.. | 22:31 |
| crans | it could be the memory but i cant seem to get memtest to work bc my keyboard isnt being recognized when i boot up (only in ubuntu, it still works in the bios etc) | 22:31 |
| holstein | anyways, you can be spending (arguably wasting) time trying to address something that could be hardware related.. | 22:32 |
| crans | should i try booting up and testing without the ram, and then come back? | 22:32 |
| crans | how do i update my graphics driver? I have been testing out the ram and i think that when the dual ddr slot is enabled i have an issue | 22:48 |
| crans | but i think i may need to update the driver bc the video is now loading slow and sketchy | 22:48 |
| holstein | what hardware do you have? | 22:49 |
| crans | ati sapphire hd 3650 | 22:49 |
| holstein | !ati | 22:49 |
| ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 22:49 |
| holstein | though, there is a simple gui in the menu, for additional drivers.. | 22:50 |
| crans | where's the menu lol i like simple | 22:51 |
| holstein | try "Settings Manager - section "System" - Software & Updates - tab Additional Drivers" | 22:51 |
| crans | hm, it says no additional drivers are available, im going to try putting in a different video card to see what happens brb | 22:54 |
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