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ahoneybunScottK: I grab the debian dir from here: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/ and the source from the github page02:01
ahoneybunmm now I cant make folders...02:16
ahoneybunI'm having that issue that someone was having the other week02:17
TJ-Just noticed that System Settings > Applications > Default Applications > File Manager does *not* save its changes. Returning to the applet, or trying to use the newly chosen F.M. result in the original still being selected/used.02:22
sgclarkmorning05:56
lordievaderGood morning.06:43
sgclarkmorning lordievader06:45
lordievaderHey sgclark, how are you doing?06:45
sgclarkbusy! but good. you?06:46
lordievaderWaking up slowely...06:48
lordievaderBusy with kde stuff, or things in general?06:48
sgclarkkde stuff06:51
lordievaderNice nice :D06:52
sgclarkadding mobile to my CI06:52
lordievaderMobile? The KDE connect things?06:53
sgclarkandroid and ubuntu-phone supports so kde applications will get tested on those platforms.06:56
lordievaderAhh, nice. :)06:57
ovidiu-florinare these bugs reported in the right place?07:25
ovidiu-florinhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/148036207:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1480362 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "[needs-packaging] Request package: expanding icons taskmanager (kde plasmoid)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]07:25
ovidiu-florinhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/148599807:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1485998 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Add the "standard" DMZ (White & Black) cursors to the Kubuntu ISO" [Undecided,New]07:25
ovidiu-florinalso, it seems that the SDDM KCM does not work on Kubuntu07:27
ovidiu-florinhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35148907:27
ubottuKDE bug 351489 in kcm_sddm "Can't change cursor theme on SDDM settings" [Normal,Unconfirmed]07:27
ovidiu-florinhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34899807:27
ubottuKDE bug 348998 in kcm_sddm "SDDM login manager configuration window can be unresponsive" [Normal,Unconfirmed]07:27
sgclarkovidiu-florin: looks right to me08:04
ovidiu-florinsgclark: thank you08:04
ovidiu-florinsgclark: will these bugs be reviewd at some bpoint and be decided wether these will happen or not?08:04
sgclarkovidiu-florin: yup08:06
ovidiu-florinawesome08:07
soee_ahoneybun: if you wantwrking nvidia on wily - install previous driver08:39
sitterRiddell: didn't I port ubiquity to pyqt5?08:48
Riddellsitter: no I think you missed it out09:04
Riddellplasma 5.4.1 up!10:04
sgclarkRiddell: up where?10:15
Riddellto ubuntu10:15
Riddellwily10:15
sgclarkahh cool, perhaps an update is in order, my wily is completely broken atm10:16
soee_sgclark: why ?10:17
sgclarkbeats me, even stumped sitter ...10:18
soee_:)10:18
sgclarksddm will not start a new session, just sits there10:18
soee_Riddell: what about sddm 0.12 10:19
soee_will you use it in Wily ?10:19
Riddellsoee_: dunno, ahoneybun was looking at it last night10:20
Riddellwhat's new in it?10:20
soee_Riddell: http://plfiorini.blogspot.com/2015/09/sddm-0120-released.html10:20
sgclarkif it allows me to login I am all for it heh10:20
soee_i doubt it will fix your problems :-)10:22
soee_sgclark: but you have working addm just cant login ?10:23
sgclarksoee_: correct10:29
sgclarkthe log was less than useful10:29
soee_do we have this bug with wrong root passwod in muon reported ?10:48
Riddellsgclark: tried a reinstall?10:51
sgclarkRiddell: ugh, I have so much set up... trying to avoid that10:51
Riddellthe trick is to script your setup :)10:51
kfunksgclark: try mkdir /var/lib/sddm10:52
kfunkthen restart sddm10:52
sgclarkkfunk: will try that, thanks10:52
BluesKajHey folks11:02
soee_hiho BluesKaj11:04
BluesKajhi soee_11:05
ahoneybunRiddell: the new sddm has some fix for nvidia prime, poke ximion to package it since he made it for debian already lol11:09
soee_ahoneybun: what fix exactly ?11:09
soee_iv seen some readme entries only with sample code11:10
ahoneybunidk I just saw something about nvidia prime so wanted it11:10
soee_ahoneybun: seen my message @ nvidai drivers issue ?11:11
ahoneybunsoee_: I just saw your issue with going back to nvidia from intel with nvidia settings11:11
soee_ahoneybun: i moved back to driver 355.06 and it works just fine11:12
ahoneybunmmm11:12
ahoneybunI see no such driver on any of my machines11:12
ahoneybunjust 352 or 35511:12
soee_ahoneybun: see my comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/149286411:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1492864 in nvidia-prime (Ubuntu) "Fails to load nvidia, fails to fallback to intel properly" [Undecided,Confirmed]11:13
soee_and you can also add yourself as affected11:13
ahoneybunwell since I've not tried I can't say11:13
ahoneybunalso I switched because it would just show a black screen 11:13
* ahoneybun seems can't find the nvidia prime in the changlog anymore11:15
soee_ahoneybun: https://github.com/sddm/sddm/wiki/0.12.0-Release-Announcement there is only mentioned this Add NVIDIA Prime notes - link: https://github.com/sddm/sddm/commit/81f02b811:17
ahoneybunyea that11:20
soee_so thi is not change :) but im always for+1 for new releases11:21
ahoneybunlol11:21
ahoneybunI'll look at it later if Riddell/ScottK/ximion are around then11:22
ahoneybunalmost 7:30am here11:22
cyphermoxRiddell: finishing up fixing things here, it's no longer failing all tests locally, I think all that was left was to upload ;)12:57
sitterRiddell: plz upload kde-cli-tools from wily_archive if you get a chance13:24
sitterfixes runtime problem13:24
Riddellonto it13:26
RiddellMirv: mitya57: are there packages of qt 5.5 anywhere yet?15:22
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* Riddell spots https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-01215:23
TJ-noticed that System Settings > Applications > Default Applications > File Manager does *not* save its changes. Returning to the applet, or trying to use the newly chosen F.M. result in the original still being selected/used. Tried to report the bug with backtrace but it wanted a KDE account, and I wasn't set up to do that. Anyone else seen this?15:40
TJ-** Ignore the backtrace/report bug - that was for a separate but related System Settings crash on exiting it15:41
soee_guys to encrypt disc it needs to be formated ?16:02
Riddellyeah it will do16:09
TJ-soee_: what do you mean, formatted?16:18
soee_TJ-: yes16:19
TJ-soee_: huh? I was asking what you meant by 'formatted' ... that's orthogonal to encryption. What kind of encryption?16:20
TJ-soee_: typically it is block-device > LUKS/dm-crypt > device-mapper-node -> ??something??16:21
TJ-soee_: ??something?? could be a LVM PV/VG, or any file-system16:21
soee_TJ-: i havn't been using any encryptions so far, so i'm trygin toget some basic informations16:22
TJ-OK... you've come to the right person then :)16:23
soee_;]16:23
soee_i'v seen some info that existing partiotions can be encrypted but it requires a lot more effort16:24
soee_and using fresh/erased one is much simpler16:24
TJ-soee_: Example: On my system (500GB SSD) there is a GUID Partition Table (GPT) with 1 BIOS-BOOT, 2 EFI-SP, 3 /boot/ 4 VG_OS, 5 VG_DATA16:24
TJ-3,4,5 are all encrypted using LUKS/dm-crypt16:24
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TJ-GRUB boot-loader supports LUKS/dm-crypt including for its own root file-system (/boot/)16:25
soee_i have 128 GB ssd for windows os and / and also hdd with 4 partitions16:25
TJ-So at boot it goes BIOS > read sector 0 boot-strap > bootstrap reads BIOS BOOT partition (which is GRUB core.img) > core.img asks for a LUKS passphrase to unlock sda3 (/boot/).16:26
soee_TJ is it true that using 1 hdd where 1 partition is encrypted and second not is not a good idea ?16:26
TJ-soee_: Makes no difference; only encrypt what you want to protect while the system is powered off.16:27
TJ-soee_: If you want to avoid malacious tampering with the kernl images then encrypted /boot/ + rootfs makes sense16:27
soee_hmm, how hard woul dbe to encrypt existing patitons and their content ?16:27
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TJ-soee_: if you just want to protect some data, then maybe a partition for data only (I have sda5 > LUKS > VG_DATA > /home/) 16:28
soeeTJ-: what VG_DATA means?16:29
TJ-soee: It is very difficult because you've got to shrink and shuffle the existing file-system data around to create space. It's much easier - especially for a novice - to move the partition to another device, encrypted the now-empty partition, configure it, and move the file-system data back16:29
TJ-soee: An LVM Volume Group called 'VG_DATA' where I keep 'data' file-systems16:29
TJ-soee: in sda4 I have 'VG_OS' LVM Volume Group which contains Logical Volumes (LVs) for the rootfs, /var/, /usr/local/, /var/lib/, /var/cache/ and others16:30
TJ-soee: For file-based encryption (not block device) there is ecryptfs. That allows in-place encryption to be added16:34
soeeuh to much information for a first time :)16:39
sitterRiddell, yofel, shadeslayer: I need a preliminary review on lp:~apachelogger/ubiquity/breezeification16:39
shadeslayeryou're alive!16:39
MirvRiddell: rightly spotted. I'll push another kwin in there now.17:36
vipanybody on laptop with one external monitor under wily?17:47
kfunk<-18:01
kfunkvip: 18:01
vipkfunk: do you connect/disconnect that external display? or do you have it connected all the time?18:13
vipbecause when friend of mine connects display, he'd to configure screen position everytime18:14
clivejoanyone able to tell me how to make a MakeFile from a Makefile.am ?18:28
yofelclivejo: that's a file from GNU autotools, you should have a configure.sh in there, if not, maybe a bootstrap.sh or autogen.sh or so18:36
clivejoI have configure and configure.ac18:38
yofelrun the configure18:39
yofelthat'll generate the Makefile18:39
clivejogetting an error - configure: error: Missing pjproject files18:39
clivejoand no MakeFile18:40
clivejojust MakeFile.am and Makefile.in18:40
yofelwell, it won't make it if there's errors..18:41
yofelcan you pastebin the whole output please?18:41
clivejo:(18:41
clivejoyofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12315748/18:44
sitter---> ubiquity revu plz <---18:48
sgclarksitter: no!18:48
sitterBREEZY YOUBEECUTE!18:49
* sitter looks at yofel with a passive aggressive smile18:49
sitteruh uh18:49
sittersgclark: I have super speed on the intertubes18:50
sgclark?!?!18:50
sitterI am on the highnet now18:50
sitteroh I spoke too soon18:50
sgclarklol18:50
clivejogrrrr18:53
sitterdon't grrr at me young man!18:56
clivejotell me why!18:57
clivejowhy wont this work!18:57
* sitter lights a candle18:57
sitteroh mighty sgclark, sprinkle us with knowledge on building things18:58
ahoneybunsgclark: here is the new telegram group18:58
ahoneybunhttps://telegram.me/joinchat/Bpq8FwCyZ1lp9y1_-cf1Wg18:58
sittertelugrym18:58
sitterahoneybun: what's new about the group?18:58
ahoneybunthe other one has that troll in it18:59
ahoneybunplus I have a bot in the new one18:59
ahoneybunwell a few bots18:59
ahoneybun218:59
ahoneybunone I need to learn to program18:59
sitterI think the way to not have trolls is to not publicly post invite links :P18:59
ahoneybunwell I don't have her number19:00
ahoneybunor yours19:00
yofelclivejo: try installing libpjproject-dev19:01
yofelsitter: I'm overloaded as well :(19:01
yofellets see19:01
clivejoyofel: thank you soooo much!19:03
sgclarkerr I need that invite link sent to my phone lol19:03
clivejothats been bugging me for days!19:03
yofelclivejo: tip, if it asks for $something, run 'apt-file find $something' - that might actually something19:04
yofel*actually find something19:04
clivejoI thought it was files in the project19:05
yofelit's one of my more-or-less-random guess strategies :P19:05
clivejoIve been going through all the documents19:05
yofelactually, configure is a shellscript. You can just look into what it's actually looking for19:05
sitteryofel: oh mighty yofel, the KDE VDG besieges thee for a review and bows before your might19:05
yofelXD19:06
ovidiu-florinRiddell: ping19:09
sitterdoko: I think I found the problem wiht kubuntu-driver-manager not building19:12
sitterlooking into a solution19:12
clivejogrrr19:15
soeeovidiu-florin: ping19:15
clivejowhat is opendht/crypto.h19:15
ovidiu-florinsoee: pong19:16
soeeovidiu-florin: did you have any of those 1+ devices?19:17
ovidiu-florinI have a OnePlus One, if that's what you're asking19:17
soeeovidiu-florin: yes, how are they compared to Samsung Galaxy X19:18
soee?19:18
sgclarksitter: where are the cool kids hanging out?19:21
ahoneybunSamsung Galaxy X soee?19:22
sittersgclark: africa19:22
sitteraltho19:22
sitterdepends on which cool kids you mean19:22
soeeahoneybun: S3, S4, S5 etc. :)19:22
ahoneybunsoee: oh well the S6 might put it out because of age but it blows the S3-S5 for sure19:23
ahoneybunI have it as welll19:23
sgclarksitter: what floor is that lol19:23
ovidiu-florinsoee: IMO all Samsung devices are cheap and rainbow coloured crap19:23
ahoneybun*well19:23
sitterI literally do not know19:23
ovidiu-florinwhen it comes to smartphones19:23
ahoneybunI'm looking at the Note 519:23
ovidiu-florinand by cheap I don't mean the price19:23
sgclarkok I will wander the halls :)19:23
ahoneybunS6 and other new devices are built better I heard19:24
sgclarkI have the note edge and I love it19:24
soeei need to replace my old S3 with something new :)19:24
ahoneybunI've always liked the concept of the S Pen19:24
ovidiu-florinsitter: are you a moderator on the Kubuntu mail list?19:25
ovidiu-florinkubuntu devel*19:25
sitterovidiu-florin: negative19:25
sitterfor all I know only jon is19:25
shadeslayersgclark: how much alcohol have you had yet19:25
sgclarksecond beer19:26
shadeslayerThat entirely dictates what floor everyone is on19:26
shadeslayerAha19:26
shadeslayerProbably like the top one the :P19:26
ovidiu-florinsgclark: I still haven't finished my first19:26
shadeslayerAs people get more drunk, things progressively move closer to the beer19:26
sgclarklol19:26
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: are you at randa?19:26
ovidiu-florinnope19:26
ovidiu-florinbut I drink beer and code19:27
ovidiu-florin:D19:27
ovidiu-florinis vHanda at Randa?19:27
sgclarkno19:27
ovidiu-florindamn...19:27
ovidiu-florinI need his feedback19:27
sitterdoko: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debconf-kde/1.0.1-3ubuntu1 this should fix the kubuntu-driver-manager rebuilds for python 3.519:42
dokositter, ok, I'll give it back then19:42
soeeRiddell: is there some public todo list for Plasma 5.5 ?19:53
valorieI'm a mod on Kubuntu ML - is there a problem19:58
valorie?19:58
shadeslayerdoes not compute19:58
clivejoyofel: how do I pre-compile with debuild ? 19:59
yofelhuh?19:59
shadeslayeryou just run debuild to get debs?19:59
clivejoopendht/crypto.h is a separate project and needs to be complied first19:59
clivejoI guess I need to mod the rules to build it before the main project?20:00
yofelseperate project?20:00
clivejoin the contrib folder20:01
yofelurgh20:01
yofelsorry, no time to dig into that now20:01
clivejono problem20:01
clivejoIm totally confused now, think Ill leave it for the night20:02
jussigood morning all21:51
* genii makes more coffee22:10
valoriegood idea!22:23
valoriemoar coffees22:23
valorienow that I have internets again, time to run updates23:05
jussiinternet.... now that would be nice...23:07
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