[01:57] <utu8o> you should probably change xchat with hexchat since xchat is no longer supported
[01:58] <holstein> you?
[01:59] <utu8o> YOU
[02:00] <holstein> utu8o: im not following, friennd.. are you asking about how to install hexchat?
[02:00] <utu8o> also change transmission with deluge because it is lightweight and is just plain better
[02:01] <pleia2> these are non-trivial suggestions, last time one of the other flavors looked at hexchat there were some unaddressed bugs that caused concerns (may be fixed now), and there's the consideraion of ISO size (need to keep it small)
[02:02] <utu8o> and use gnome calculator with financial because it offers more features to us
[02:02] <holstein> us?
[02:04] <utu8o> yes, i'm just thinking of the well being of the Lubuntu community, i don't want there to be possible security issues and i want more features to save us time
[02:04] <utu8o> ^.^
[02:05] <holstein> lol. well, you can always just install what you need, for it to meet your personal needs
[02:11] <krytarik> utu8o: XChat isn't even included in Lubuntu by default though.
[02:11] <utu8o> oh, this needs to be wiki edited https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubuntu#Applications
[02:36] <krytarik> utu8o: There you go: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/oneiric/lubuntu-meta/oneiric/revision/23
[20:41] <Aladiah> AFter BIOs update, i cant see the grup to choose Lubuntu anymore! IT start with windows .how to do to see grub menu again _
[20:41] <wxl> Aladiah: were you prebviously using bios legacy mode?
[20:41] <ianorlin> Aladiah, also which motherboard
[20:42] <ianorlin> and how did you update bios from windows?
[20:42] <Aladiah> humm
[20:42] <wxl> Aladiah: hav e you tried holding down shift when booting to access the grub menu if it is actually booting to grub but you're just not seeing the menu?
[20:42] <Aladiah> i update  from windows
[20:42] <ianorlin> also how many disks
[20:42] <Aladiah> 1 disk
[20:42] <Aladiah> windows 10 and lubuntu
[20:42] <Aladiah> wxl not yet
[20:43] <Aladiah> wxl it start imediatly with windows 10
[20:43] <wxl> Aladiah: just try it. you might be surprised
[20:43] <Aladiah> ianorlin i dont know the mother board
[20:43] <Aladiah> i will be back in seconds
[20:44] <Aladiah> wxl  i have to press down + shift_
[20:44] <wxl> Aladiah: down?
[20:44] <Aladiah> just shift_
[20:44] <Aladiah> _
[20:45] <Aladiah> i will try
[20:45] <Aladiah> i will back in minutes
[20:49] <ianorlin> I wonder if installing grub from live iso might work here if it finds the partition
[20:59] <Aladiah> wxl it didn work _
[21:00] <Aladiah> what if i update the grub
[21:00] <wxl> Aladiah: if it's not loading grub, it likely won't help
[21:01] <Aladiah> i dont know what to do .
[21:01] <Aladiah> i think this happen once,, but i dont remember ho i solved last time
[21:01] <Aladiah> hummm
[21:01] <Aladiah> was in windows 8
[21:02] <wxl> did you try bios legacy mode?
[21:02] <Aladiah> bios legacy mode . i dont know what it is
[21:02] <Aladiah> wha t is it _
[21:02] <wxl> look for it in your bios settings
[21:03] <Aladiah> i was there
[21:03] <Aladiah> minutes ago i disabled boot secure mode
[21:03] <Aladiah> but i dont work too
[21:03] <ianorlin> did you try installing grub again
[21:03] <Aladiah> no ianorlin
[21:03] <Aladiah>  how i do that _
[21:03] <ianorlin> I think you might need to boot to live session again
[21:03] <Aladiah> in console_
[21:04] <Aladiah> boot to live session _
[21:04] <ianorlin> and then install grub on your disk from that
[21:04] <Aladiah> humm what is it_
[21:04] <ianorlin> !live
[21:04] <Aladiah> ianorlin iam using a live usb pen
[21:04] <Aladiah> iam in lubuntu now
[21:05] <Aladiah> using a live usb peb
[21:05] <Aladiah> is same thing _
[21:05] <ianorlin> yes
[21:05] <Aladiah> can u heklp me _
[21:05] <Aladiah> in console _
[21:05] <Aladiah> i will open console
[21:05] <Aladiah> now
[21:05] <ianorlin> I would run lslbk to make sure what the disk you install is and your lubuntu install is still there
[21:06] <Aladiah> what i have to type plaes
[21:06] <Aladiah> i need type lslbk _
[21:06] <Aladiah> sudo lslbk _
[21:06] <ianorlin> no this just makes sure what your disk is as sometimes I have had the liveusb be sda
[21:07] <Aladiah> No command found
[21:07] <ianorlin> lsblk sorry
[21:07] <ianorlin> then run sudo grub install /dev/sda if sda is the disk drive that has both windows and lubuntu on it
[21:08] <Aladiah> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12316565/
[21:08] <Aladiah> can i past to next command ianorlin _
[21:08] <ianorlin> yes
[21:08] <ianorlin> oops
[21:08] <ianorlin> missed a dash
[21:08] <ianorlin> sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[21:09] <Aladiah> ok i will do it now
[21:09] <Aladiah> ianorlin give me error http://paste.ubuntu.com/12316580/
[21:10] <ianorlin> Argh it really should not do that this is probably a bug
[21:10] <Aladiah> so no way _
[21:11] <Aladiah> what about an update
[21:11] <Aladiah> \
[21:11] <Aladiah> of rgub \
[21:11] <Aladiah> will not work for sure_
[21:11] <ianorlin> what version is this 15.04?
[21:12] <Aladiah> i dont remeber
[21:12] <Aladiah> anymore
[21:12] <Aladiah>  hwo to see that on console_
[21:12] <ianorlin> lsb_rlease -rd
[21:13] <Aladiah> No command 'lsb_rlease' found, did you mean:
[21:13] <Aladiah> lubuntu@lubuntu:~$ lsb_rlease -rd
[21:13] <Aladiah> i think is the latest version
[21:14] <Aladiah> i always aupdate it
[21:14] <ianorlin> yeah
[21:16] <Aladiah> ianorlin do you think we can do something ofor it _
[21:16] <ianorlin> Aladiah, the only thing I got to work in this case was backing up data and doing a fresh install with manual partitioning
[21:17] <ianorlin> I don't think I got entire disk which you don't want or autoresize to work
[21:17] <Aladiah> i dont know how to do tha
[21:17] <Aladiah> that
[21:18] <Aladiah> how to update the grub _
[21:18] <ianorlin> I don't know
[21:19] <Aladiah> how to run a command as aroot in lives session _
[21:20] <ianorlin> sudo
[21:20] <ianorlin> before the command
[21:20] <Aladiah> it dont let me update grub
[21:21] <Aladiah> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.
[21:21] <ianorlin> yeah I think that is a bug
[21:21] <Aladiah> unbelievable
[21:21] <ianorlin> I think I reported this bug and backup and reinstall with manual partitioning was the only way I got around it
[21:22] <Aladiah> i have to study how to do that
[21:22] <ianorlin> Aladiah, do you have like an external hard drive or somthing to back up all you stuff from lubuntu onto
[21:22] <Aladiah> manual paritioning
[21:22] <Aladiah> no
[21:22] <ianorlin> argh this makes this really difficult
[21:22] <Aladiah> iam afraid that it install and clean windows 10 as well
[21:23] <Aladiah> but i can risk
[21:23] <Aladiah> i can risk with out  backup
[21:23] <Aladiah> can you teach me that such thing manual partoition
[21:23] <ianorlin> since you don't know about manula partitioning you probably don't have a seperate /home
[21:25] <Aladiah> u found this
[21:25] <Aladiah> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2224303
[21:25] <Aladiah> iam trying to figure out if this solution apply to me
[21:26] <Aladiah> can you help me figuiring it ou
[21:26] <Aladiah> out_
[21:26] <ianorlin> um yes but the problem is if you reinstall it would get rid of all your data on the lubuntu partition already there
[21:27] <Aladiah> humm i see
[21:28] <Aladiah> anyway i cant find on the post the solution . . it s a little confused isnit_
[21:29] <ianorlin> can you mount where your lubuntu install is and pastebin /etc/fstab
[21:34] <Aladiah> i ahve no idea
[21:34] <Aladiah>  how to doo it
[21:34] <Aladiah> mount
[21:34] <Aladiah> i dont knwo that expression
[21:34] <Aladiah> pastbin as well
[21:35] <Aladiah> is in console or file explorer_
[21:37] <ianorlin> open in pcmanfm
[21:37] <ianorlin> it should be on the left side bottom corner