| pitti | Good morning | 04:45 |
|---|---|---|
| didrocks | good morning! | 06:32 |
| * didrocks has been fighting for 15 minutes to get some wifi, grrr network-manager | 06:33 | |
| larsu | good morning! | 06:54 |
| larsu | didrocks: hi! I'm having nm problems as well. Need to reboot constantly | 06:55 |
| didrocks | larsu: once I'm connected, I'm fine here, it's just to connect… | 06:56 |
| didrocks | hey larsu ;) | 06:56 |
| larsu | didrocks: ya me as well | 06:58 |
| larsu | but sometimes it doesn't reconnect after suspend | 06:58 |
| didrocks | yep, or after a new boot | 06:58 |
| didrocks | then, sometimes stopping the service and restarting works | 06:58 |
| didrocks | but some other times, you really need to reboot | 06:58 |
| * didrocks has this for 6 months | 06:58 | |
| pitti | hey didrocks, hey larsu! | 06:59 |
| larsu | morning pitti! | 07:00 |
| didrocks | bonjour pitti ! | 07:00 |
| pitti | comment allez-vous ? | 07:00 |
| didrocks | pitti: ça va très bien, et toi ? pas de mal de tête après ton cours de français ? | 07:01 |
| pitti | didrocks: en effet j'ai quelques maux de tête :-( -- alors, ce déjè commence avant la course, hier midi | 07:02 |
| didrocks | aïe :/ | 07:02 |
| pitti | je ne me sense pas comme une rhume, c'est étrange | 07:02 |
| didrocks | pitti: peut-être de la fatigue générale ? pas assez dormi, etc. | 07:03 |
| pitti | didrocks: ce sont les premières nuits froide, peut-être c'est ça | 07:03 |
| pitti | effectivement j'ai eu beaucoup de repos | 07:04 |
| tjaalton | didrocks: guess I have a fix for your crasher | 07:16 |
| didrocks | tjaalton: \o/ | 07:17 |
| tjaalton | will push it soon | 07:17 |
| tjaalton | it was caused by the update of x11proto-core | 07:17 |
| didrocks | tjaalton: tell me if you want to have it a try on a ppa, I still can't really trigger it reliably, but I have 2-3 crashes a day | 07:17 |
| tjaalton | which was meant for xserver 1.18 | 07:17 |
| didrocks | oh | 07:17 |
| didrocks | interesting | 07:17 |
| tjaalton | I'll push it anyway, it's safe.. oneliner | 07:17 |
| didrocks | what can go wrong in one line, right? :p | 07:18 |
| didrocks | ok, keep me posted ;) | 07:18 |
| tjaalton | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=117200 | 07:18 |
| * didrocks looks | 07:18 | |
| didrocks | ah, all that pain for a non nullified variable | 07:18 |
| tjaalton | that's the patch, upstream got a different one in 1.18 but this might still land in 1.17.x | 07:18 |
| * didrocks likes when the rationale is 30 times longer than the fix :) | 07:19 | |
| tjaalton | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91316 is the bug | 07:22 |
| ubot5 | Freedesktop bug 91316 in Server/DDX/Xorg "Xorg crashes a lot" [Major,Resolved: fixed] | 07:22 |
| didrocks | tjaalton: ah, I get now your comment here about latest xproto | 07:24 |
| willcooke | morning all | 07:52 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke | 07:53 |
| larsu | morning willcooke | 07:54 |
| tjaalton | didrocks: xserver uploaded, should arrive soon | 07:55 |
| didrocks | tjaalton: excellent! will keep you posted | 07:56 |
| Laney | hi hi | 08:01 |
| larsu | Laney! What up? | 08:03 |
| didrocks | good morning Laney | 08:04 |
| Laney | hey! | 08:05 |
| Laney | how's it going? | 08:05 |
| larsu | good good :) | 08:05 |
| didrocks | good ;) | 08:05 |
| Laney | GREAT! | 08:07 |
| pitti | hey Laney! | 08:08 |
| larsu | wow :) | 08:08 |
| Laney | it's a pitti | 08:09 |
| didrocks | Laney: no, "c'est un pitti" ;) | 08:09 |
| pitti | oui ! | 08:09 |
| pitti | il faut parler français ici | 08:09 |
| didrocks | exactement ! | 08:10 |
| Laney | kungcono pitti | 08:10 |
| pitti | didrocks: et tu dois défendre seb128 aussi, pendant il est en vacances ! | 08:11 |
| pitti | Laney: Zulu? | 08:11 |
| Laney | or at least google's version of Zulu :P | 08:11 |
| didrocks | pitti: un français en vaut bien deux, non ? :) | 08:11 |
| * pitti donne didrocks une accolade | 08:12 | |
| * didrocks donne une accolade en retour à pitti | 08:12 | |
| * larsu wonders how French survived in this channel now that seb128's not here | 08:14 | |
| didrocks | larsu: don't challenge me in summoning the french community to invade this channel :p | 08:15 |
| * larsu shuts up | 08:15 | |
| Laney | larsu: not sure I dare ask... but I have a dbus question... | 08:15 |
| Laney | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/09/07/%23ubuntu-desktop.html#t16:45 please to look if you have time | 08:15 |
| larsu | Laney: the dbus test runner failure? | 08:24 |
| Laney | ya | 08:25 |
| pitti | I retried http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/d/dbus-test-runner/ an hour or so ago, if you mean that | 08:25 |
| pitti | it succeeded again | 08:25 |
| pitti | yay flaky tests | 08:25 |
| Laney | it is a real failure though | 08:25 |
| pitti | http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/d/dbus-test-runner/wily/ppc64el/ you mean? | 08:25 |
| Laney | yes | 08:25 |
| Laney | a real race condition | 08:26 |
| Laney | although I didn't get it on my desktop with 99999 or so iterations | 08:27 |
| Laney | the ppc64el porter machine gets it in < 50 | 08:27 |
| larsu | ugh, this looks nasty | 08:34 |
| Sweet5hark | this reminds me of some project, cant point my finger on which: http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/128322627867/its-a-slow-oversized-and-ugly-framework-but-we | 09:01 |
| Sweet5hark | it is friday yet? | 09:01 |
| larsu | KDE? | 09:02 |
| Sweet5hark | larsu: close. ;) | 09:04 |
| * Sweet5hark hands larsu a cookie. | 09:04 | |
| * larsu chews | 09:05 | |
| Laney | larsu: is it a race in g_bus_watch_name? | 09:11 |
| Laney | that's what dbus-test-runner uses | 09:12 |
| larsu | doesn't look like a race to me | 09:13 |
| Laney | then what? | 09:13 |
| larsu | well, it's complicated | 09:13 |
| larsu | I'm trying to reproduce to no avail | 09:13 |
| Laney | go on the porter machine | 09:13 |
| larsu | looking at the logs, it seems like the service appears and disappears faster than the method returns | 09:13 |
| larsu | which is a legit thing to do for dbus-1 | 09:13 |
| pitti | Laney: perhaps it helps to run it in a container which you just give 5% CPU or so? | 09:13 |
| larsu | hm actually you're right - it's not ok for watch_name() to miss this | 09:14 |
| larsu | pitti: I've long wanted a dbus proxy for debugging that inserts random timeouts and sometimes throws an error and such | 09:14 |
| larsu | Laney: my first hunch was that it shouldn't have to look at the signal as well, because who cares about the name if it only exists for such a short time | 09:15 |
| larsu | but then, bus_watch_name() guarantees to fire when the name appears... | 09:16 |
| * larsu checks how it is implemented | 09:16 | |
| larsu | Laney: I don't have access to that | 09:19 |
| Laney | ah, this can be fixed! | 09:23 |
| larsu | ooh thanks Laney | 09:26 |
| larsu | I don't understand why dbus-test-runner is using g_bus_watch_name() for this | 09:34 |
| larsu | it knows for a fact that the name doesn't exist yet (doesn't it??) | 09:34 |
| didrocks | tjaalton: ok, installed, waiting for next crash to get the server restarted | 09:34 |
| larsu | and simply waits for it to appear | 09:34 |
| larsu | btw, gdbus ignores the nameownerchanged signal until getnameowner returns | 09:35 |
| tjaalton | didrocks: ok | 09:35 |
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| desrt | Laney: you must always watch the signal first, for this reason | 10:16 |
| desrt | Laney: but gdbus provides for you here -- g_bus_watch_name() | 10:16 |
| didrocks | and hopefully, that was my last Xorg crash :p | 10:22 |
| Laney | desrt: it's dbus-test-runner here, which is indeed using that | 10:22 |
| Laney | but larsu is looking into this now so let's not keep too many brains on it :P | 10:22 |
| larsu | desrt: morning. You catch me at a bad timing - about to meet dholbach at sahara | 10:22 |
| larsu | (I'm sure you understand) | 10:23 |
| desrt | ya. of course :) | 10:23 |
| desrt | freaking sahara | 10:23 |
| Laney | bit gritty for me | 10:23 |
| larsu | the problem is that g_ubs_watch_name() ignores the signal until GetNameOwner returns | 10:23 |
| Laney | (HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAOHAOHFOASHFASH) | 10:23 |
| larsu | Laney: I have half a patch that *might* work | 10:23 |
| larsu | using the signal directly | 10:24 |
| larsu | I still think gdbus is wrong here | 10:24 |
| larsu | desrt: ^^ but lets discuss after lunch | 10:24 |
| Laney | someone has "taken" the ticket to give you access so hopefully that is done when you get back | 10:25 |
| qengho | Anyone know of a good visual testing tool? Like, fire up arbitrary GUI program, test that somewhere on the screen looks like _this_? | 10:45 |
| willcooke | qengho, I've seen Jenkins produce stuff like that | 10:49 |
| willcooke | Trevinho, do you know how we do that for U7>? ^^ | 10:49 |
| qengho | About once every season Sikuli breaks, and chromium-browser tests use it. Last week, some dependency of Sikuli updated, probably openjdk-8-jdk and now Jython library doesn't parse python programs that don't have final indentation lines at zerotOMGWTFthis has nothing to do with chromium | 10:50 |
| Trevinho | qengho: we use autopilot for that | 10:50 |
| Trevinho | ah... well no | 10:50 |
| Trevinho | you want to check pixel-perfection of things, right? | 10:50 |
| didrocks | jenkins isn't targeting that use case | 10:52 |
| didrocks | if you want to do visual comparison, you can use visualdiff | 10:52 |
| didrocks | (and introduce some "noise" to accept slight changes) | 10:53 |
| Trevinho | Mh, ma ha levato il post? | 10:54 |
| Trevinho | err wrong chat :D | 10:54 |
| qengho | Trevinho: I don't require pixel comparison, but I don't have access to turn things back into utf8 for comparison. | 10:55 |
| qengho | didrocks: I don't know of "visualdiff". Neither does "apt-cache search". | 11:00 |
| didrocks | qengho: not sure if it's packaged: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Visual_Diff | 11:06 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| larsu | desrt: any ideas? | 12:10 |
| Laney | larsu: good falafel? | 12:11 |
| larsu | Laney: yes! Also some boring errands. Had to buy a dust mop, too | 12:12 |
| Laney | yin and yang | 12:14 |
| ogra_ | planning to do some gtk-1.2 work ? | 12:14 |
| * larsu runs | 12:15 | |
| Trevinho | Laney: for landing https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/osd-scrollbars-improvements/+merge/269245 can i join your silo 031 or is it too late? | 12:40 |
| willcooke | Sweet5hark, tkamppeter - just been to the post office. You should have presents in the next week | 12:41 |
| Sweet5hark | willcooke: \o/ awesome. | 12:41 |
| davmor2 | Sweet5hark: By presents he means some empty raspberry pi boxes don't think he sent on the boards ;) | 12:42 |
| Laney | Trevinho: late, just put it in your unity one or something | 12:43 |
| willcooke | sush, davmor2 :) | 12:43 |
| Trevinho | Laney: that's what I was going to do... Should I use some other option in order to make this depend on that or... the train is smart enough to handle it? | 12:43 |
| Sweet5hark | davmor2: you mean the board will have had "accidents" on the way? | 12:43 |
| Laney | Trevinho: it's already in | 12:44 |
| davmor2 | Sweet5hark: don't they always ? | 12:44 |
| Laney | ag, boottest | 12:44 |
| * Laney stabs that | 12:44 | |
| Laney | Trevinho: I'll just make it merge that one to trunk | 12:44 |
| Laney | then you should be ok | 12:44 |
| Trevinho | Laney: ah, ok... I thought it was still moving to trunk... | 12:45 |
| Laney | yeah but you can override that | 12:45 |
| ricotz | willcooke, oh, Pi2 ;P | 12:57 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| tedg | Laney: Did you get anywhere with the dbustestrunner PPC64 failure? | 13:15 |
| Laney | larsu is on the case | 13:15 |
| tedg | Woot! Go larsu! | 13:16 |
| Sweet5hark | cyphermox: ahhh, you are back? LibreOffice 5.0 FFE is greenlighted from ubuntu-release, do you think you might review/sponsor the package for wily? | 13:23 |
| * larsu goes and makes some tea | 13:31 | |
| cyphermox | Sweet5hark: where is it? | 13:46 |
| Sweet5hark | cyphermox: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/wily/5.0.1/libreoffice_5.0.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes and http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/wily/5.0.1/libreoffice-l10n_5.0.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes -- ./debian changes/DCVS at http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-openoffice/libreoffice.git/log/?h=ubuntu-wily-5.0 | 13:48 |
| Sweet5hark | cyphermox: nlpsolver and writer2latex should be updated along with that: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/wily/nlpsolver_0.9~beta1-10ubuntu2_source.changes and http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/wily/writer2latex_1.0.2-10ubuntu2_source.changes | 13:49 |
| Sweet5hark | cyphermox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1491964 has more links, including buildlog etc. | 13:50 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1491964 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[FFE] LibreOffice 5.0.x for wily" [Undecided,Triaged] | 13:50 |
| cyphermox | ok | 13:53 |
| cyphermox | Sweet5hark: looks rather big so I'll first finish other things and then review it this PM | 13:54 |
| Sweet5hark | cyphermox: great, having feedback/uploading it on wednesday would be awesome: as you say its rather large and has many deps, so having it finished building before the weekend would be great. | 13:56 |
| cyphermox | ok | 13:57 |
| Sweet5hark | cyphermox: thanks a lot! | 14:00 |
| larsu | desrt: hi. did you see Laney's paste? | 14:40 |
| desrt | yes. let me see it again. | 14:40 |
| Laney | it is a good paste | 14:40 |
| larsu | I managed to work around this issue by connecting to NameOwnerChanged() directly | 14:40 |
| larsu | http://paste.ubuntu.com/12308415/ | 14:41 |
| larsu | desrt: the problem is that g_bus_watch_name() ignores that signal until GetNameOwner() returns | 14:41 |
| larsu | (see the initialized flag in the struct) | 14:41 |
| desrt | that's correct. | 14:41 |
| larsu | why? | 14:41 |
| desrt | i think i advocated that behaviour, in fact | 14:41 |
| larsu | it's wrong in this case, though | 14:42 |
| desrt | because it will always give the initial callback based on teh result of GetNameOwner call | 14:42 |
| desrt | and the GetNameOwner call and reply are handled atomically with respect to bus ordering (since it's the daemon processing it) | 14:42 |
| larsu | right, that is totally fine | 14:42 |
| desrt | so the only possibility for something to intercede here is if a name owner change happens before i requested who has the current name | 14:42 |
| larsu | the problem is that we're missing the name appearing and disappearing | 14:42 |
| desrt | in which case it's totally uninteresting, since i will get the "correct" answer later anyway | 14:43 |
| desrt | but before the name owner is requested, you have no right to know | 14:43 |
| larsu | this change happens *after* though | 14:43 |
| larsu | and before the call returns | 14:43 |
| larsu | it's already gone | 14:43 |
| desrt | not possible | 14:43 |
| desrt | the request isn't made until dbus sees it | 14:43 |
| larsu | which request? | 14:44 |
| desrt | you can't do a watch and then (out of band) fire off some other thing and expect to be guaranteed to see it | 14:44 |
| desrt | GetNameOwner | 14:44 |
| desrt | but for that matter, let's talk about the AddMatch | 14:44 |
| desrt | there is no guarantee that even the AddMatch would make it to the bus before your process owns/disowns the name | 14:44 |
| desrt | so if you wanted to fix this, you'd made it slightly more reliable, but still not really reliable | 14:44 |
| larsu | hm, I don't think we're talking about the same thing | 14:45 |
| desrt | please explain to me what is happening | 14:45 |
| desrt | because my best guess is that you're trying to use name ownership to figure out if some process has started or not | 14:45 |
| larsu | yes | 14:45 |
| larsu | indeed | 14:45 |
| desrt | and you spawn this process out-of-band of dbus | 14:46 |
| desrt | like via fork/exec or some other method | 14:46 |
| larsu | in the worst way possible even: using gdbus-tool to call RequestName | 14:46 |
| desrt | that's... disturbing | 14:46 |
| desrt | okay | 14:46 |
| desrt | here's the real problem | 14:46 |
| larsu | which is why the name disappears so quickly | 14:46 |
| desrt | dbus worker thread is what it is, right? | 14:46 |
| desrt | it can process things after an arbitrary delay | 14:46 |
| desrt | so if i queue up some AddMatch and GetNameOwner... there is no guarantee that those will be delivered "soon" | 14:47 |
| desrt | so it could be that gdbus-tool runs before even AddMatch gets seen by the bus | 14:47 |
| desrt | in which case i will be completely and totally in the dark | 14:47 |
| larsu | ya | 14:47 |
| desrt | i won't even have a chance to ignore the signal -- i won't ever even see it | 14:47 |
| larsu | but this is not what is happening here | 14:47 |
| desrt | so you can't fix what you're trying to fix here | 14:47 |
| larsu | we *do* get both signals | 14:47 |
| desrt | i know | 14:47 |
| desrt | but you might not | 14:47 |
| desrt | you only happen to get it because AddMatch made it in time, but not the reply for GetNameOwner | 14:48 |
| larsu | right | 14:48 |
| desrt | i'm saying that it could be just as easily the case that AddMatch itself failed to make it | 14:48 |
| larsu | indeed | 14:48 |
| desrt | so, in general, you can't do what you're doing any expect it to work, regardless of gdbus | 14:48 |
| larsu | so we don't fix that other bug becuase this might happen anyway? | 14:48 |
| desrt | it's not a bug | 14:48 |
| larsu | desrt: s/what you're doing/what dbus-test-runner is doing/ | 14:48 |
| desrt | so dbus-test-runner has the bug. fix it there. | 14:49 |
| larsu | I fixed it by listening to the signal | 14:49 |
| desrt | not a good enough fix, unless your signal match is synchronous | 14:49 |
| larsu | haven't tested how well that works, but by your logic the same bug applies | 14:49 |
| larsu | but then g_bus_watch_name() has really weird semantics.... | 14:49 |
| larsu | "I'll start watching that name some point in the future" | 14:50 |
| desrt | you have to understand that all of these things are made for an async event-driven world | 14:50 |
| desrt | where the first answer need not be correct as long as the eventual result is | 14:50 |
| desrt | it's like how GMenuModel will lie to you at first | 14:50 |
| desrt | and in this case, even, the first answer _is_ correct | 14:51 |
| desrt | ...at the time it is given | 14:51 |
| larsu | there's no answer at all... | 14:51 |
| larsu | true | 14:51 |
| desrt | well, it will tell you either "vanished" or "appeared" one way or the other | 14:51 |
| larsu | no | 14:51 |
| larsu | it never gives you vanished | 14:51 |
| larsu | if it's never been there | 14:51 |
| desrt | it ought to | 14:51 |
| larsu | ? | 14:51 |
| larsu | I wouldn't expect it to | 14:52 |
| desrt | i would... | 14:52 |
| desrt | You are guaranteed that one of the handlers will be invoked after calling this function. When you are done watching the name, just call g_bus_unwatch_name() with the watcher id this function returns. | 14:52 |
| larsu | oh indeed it does according to docs | 14:52 |
| larsu | weird | 14:52 |
| larsu | in any case using name watching for this is wrong | 14:52 |
| desrt | no kidding | 14:52 |
| larsu | as is using gdbus-tool | 14:53 |
| larsu | what do you suggest? Listen to the signal and write a thing that owns the name for a bit longer? | 14:53 |
| desrt | using gdbus-tool to grab a name as a way to alert [something] of [something] is a very ... creative idea | 14:53 |
| desrt | but not a good one | 14:53 |
| desrt | why not just listen to a normal signal and have gdbus tool send that signal? | 14:53 |
| desrt | or register an object and have it call a method on that object | 14:53 |
| desrt | that's even better | 14:54 |
| larsu | because this is a test for the --wait-for parameter | 14:54 |
| desrt | ahh. i see. | 14:54 |
| larsu | which waits for a name before doing something | 14:54 |
| desrt | so ping the bus | 14:54 |
| desrt | actually, even better, just wait for the vanished call | 14:54 |
| larsu | that might happen immediately | 14:54 |
| desrt | which is an indication that watching has been successfully established, and the thing doesn't exist | 14:54 |
| larsu | ah | 14:55 |
| larsu | indeed | 14:55 |
| desrt | and then it's safe to launch the thing in a way that you will be guaranteed to see the result | 14:55 |
| larsu | we might still miss it, no? | 14:55 |
| desrt | pretty sure it's safe by this point | 14:55 |
| larsu | ah that's what you mean... | 14:55 |
| desrt | you don't get vanished until GetNameOwner returns | 14:55 |
| desrt | and this is after the watch | 14:55 |
| larsu | indeed | 14:55 |
| desrt | so if this doesn't work, it would almost have to be a bug... | 14:55 |
| larsu | we'd still miss this specific thing | 14:56 |
| larsu | oh wait, no | 14:56 |
| larsu | sorry | 14:56 |
| desrt | :) | 14:56 |
| larsu | desrt: I'll try that instead of listening to NameOwnerChanged. Thanks for your help | 14:56 |
| desrt | willcooke: might be hard for me to make it to the sprint on time :( | 15:05 |
| willcooke | desrt, no worries | 15:06 |
| larsu | desrt: red-eye flight! | 15:07 |
| desrt | larsu: i was thinking the opposite, in fact | 15:07 |
| larsu | on Monday? | 15:07 |
| desrt | willcooke: btw: would not mind london again, if this turns out to be the easiest option | 15:07 |
| desrt | the earliest i could leave it early monday... and there is a non-redeye flight to london on this day, i think | 15:07 |
| Trevinho | larsu: so... I'm testing the silo with new scrollbars, but it seems that there's something wrong with terminal. Also I can't find a way to run the inspector on it... | 15:08 |
| Trevinho | any tip? | 15:08 |
| larsu | Trevinho: terminal is weird because it doesn't use a GtkScrolledWindow | 15:08 |
| larsu | Trevinho: actually I *think* rishi worked on this in the 3.18 cycle | 15:09 |
| larsu | Trevinho: set GTK_DEBUG=interactive to always open the inspector | 15:09 |
| larsu | you need to do that on the server command though | 15:09 |
| Trevinho | larsu: it doesn't work in terminal... Also using the server | 15:09 |
| Trevinho | as the server only shows infos about the server itself, but not about the window it creates | 15:10 |
| larsu | even when you use the widget picker? | 15:11 |
| Trevinho | yep | 15:11 |
| Trevinho | larsu: if I change the theme (for example), from visual It doesn't apply to that window even | 15:11 |
| larsu | weird | 15:11 |
| Trevinho | larsu: yeah.. can you? | 15:12 |
| larsu | there's a compile time option to add a Help/Inspector menu item | 15:12 |
| larsu | let me check | 15:12 |
| larsu | ya same problem | 15:13 |
| larsu | also getting warnings about TerminalWindow not being on the correct screen | 15:14 |
| Laney | i think you have to build with --enable-debug then use a menu item | 15:14 |
| Trevinho | mh, i see | 15:14 |
| * larsu wonders why | 15:15 | |
| Laney | MEETING TIME DING DING DING | 15:30 |
| willcooke | Woo | 15:30 |
| didrocks | DONG DONG DONG | 15:30 |
| andyrock | \o/ | 15:30 |
| willcooke | #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2015-09-08 | 15:30 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Sep 8 15:30:28 2015 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:30 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 15:30 |
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| willcooke | Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt, dgadomski, didrocks, fjkong (out), happyaron (out), hikiko (hols), laney, larsu, qengho (out), seb128 (hols), sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevino, robert_ancell (out) | 15:30 |
| Sweet5hark | . | 15:30 |
| happyaron | . | 15:30 |
| * happyaron please call me a bit later in the queue, writing atm | 15:31 | |
| larsu | \o | 15:31 |
| attente | hi | 15:31 |
| dgadomski_ | hey | 15:31 |
| willcooke | happyaron, ack | 15:32 |
| willcooke | Let's roll... | 15:32 |
| willcooke | #topic andyrock | 15:32 |
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| andyrock | hey | 15:32 |
| andyrock | Updated branch lp:~azzar1/unity/gnome_session_manager_more_tests | 15:32 |
| andyrock | Updated branch lp:~azzar1/unity/sc_dbus_manager_tests | 15:32 |
| andyrock | Created MP for bug 1491555 using patch from external contributor | 15:33 |
| ubot5 | bug 1491555 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity unnecessarily goes to low graphics mode" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1491555 | 15:33 |
| andyrock | Created MP for bug 1491913 using patch from external contributor | 15:33 |
| ubot5 | bug 1491913 in unity (Ubuntu) "Force high gfx mode with UNITY_LOW_GFX_MODE == 0" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1491913 | 15:33 |
| andyrock | Keep working on screen resize bug on compiz (damn you compiz!) | 15:33 |
| andyrock | basically that was my week | 15:33 |
| willcooke | thanks andyrock | 15:33 |
| willcooke | #topic attente | 15:33 |
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| attente | investigated and wrote out a list of requirements we need in Mir to support hardware keyboard layouts | 15:34 |
| attente | refresh non-gnome-unity-ibus-support branch for u-c-c, thanks Laney! | 15:34 |
| attente | more work on proper popup menu placement in gtk-mir continued... | 15:34 |
| attente | todo: fix gtk apps not working on Ubuntu Touch devices due to not supporting the available pixel formats Mir can provide | 15:34 |
| attente | (eof) | 15:34 |
| willcooke | thanks attente | 15:34 |
| willcooke | #topic desrt | 15:35 |
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| willcooke | let's come back to desrt | 15:37 |
| willcooke | #topic dgadomski_ | 15:38 |
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| dgadomski_ | hey, I was informed that libosmesa6 from lts-mesa-{utopic,vivid}. Looks like it was removed because of bug #1424059. Luckily tjaalton is going to take a look at it. | 15:38 |
| ubot5 | bug 1424059 in mesa-lts-utopic (Ubuntu) "libosmesa6 conflicts with libglapi-mesa-lts-utopic" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1424059 | 15:38 |
| dgadomski_ | That's all in the desktop area this week. Thanks! | 15:38 |
| willcooke | thanks a lot dgadomski_ | 15:38 |
| willcooke | #topic didrocks | 15:38 |
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| didrocks | hey | 15:38 |
| didrocks | Ubuntu Make: | 15:38 |
| didrocks | - Released 15.09 which contains notably the Unity 3D support. Wrote blog post + social media | 15:38 |
| didrocks | - More reviews and merged android sdk support + exit code cleanups from 2 contributors (one being new \o/) | 15:38 |
| didrocks | - Fix some pep8 issues on trusty only for CI tests and other small tests broken by above. | 15:38 |
| didrocks | - Bug management | 15:38 |
| didrocks | Developer experience: | 15:38 |
| didrocks | - Add transitions and episod on it for test app | 15:38 |
| didrocks | - various warnings and code cleanups on test app + opened last bugs | 15:38 |
| didrocks | - installed snappy on my machine and a raspberry pi 2 to evaluate Go developer experience (+ running first examples) | 15:38 |
| didrocks | Misc: | 15:38 |
| didrocks | - reviewed unity3d upstream deb about "bad packaging" complains: the issue is mostly warnings about /opt "bad quality" for sotfware center due to this path. Nothing we can fix as this is the best practice for such out of repo components. | 15:38 |
| didrocks | - doing some small snappy patch | 15:39 |
| didrocks | - patch pilot and some archive admin duties | 15:39 |
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| didrocks | . | 15:39 |
| didrocks | (and thanks tjaalton! no xorg crash for 5h now! ;) | 15:39 |
| willcooke | thanks didrocks | 15:39 |
| larsu | didrocks: new record? | 15:39 |
| willcooke | and thanks tjaalton | 15:39 |
| didrocks | larsu: yep :p | 15:39 |
| willcooke | #topic FJKong | 15:39 |
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| willcooke | update code of pinyin search | 15:39 |
| willcooke | * support advance search feature | 15:39 |
| willcooke | * make scaning more faster | 15:39 |
| willcooke | * support run as daemon | 15:39 |
| willcooke | * remove duplicate result of searching | 15:39 |
| willcooke | attend CCN meeting at Changsha, show demo of pinyin searching | 15:39 |
| willcooke | #topic larsu | 15:39 |
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| willcooke | err | 15:39 |
| willcooke | I meant laney, but larsu - you go | 15:40 |
| larsu | sure | 15:40 |
| willcooke | keep Laney on his toes | 15:40 |
| Laney | this is like final destination | 15:40 |
| * Laney has cheated his turn | 15:40 | |
| larsu | - finish up notify-osd work (long standing blurry-on-hidpi bug) | 15:40 |
| larsu | - finish up Laney's indicator-datetime test fixes (sorry again for putting you through this) and cleaned up those tests whlie I was at it (some weren't even running...) | 15:40 |
| larsu | - sift through timezonemap bugs and start working on disabling geonames.ubuntu.com for now due to bugs in returning cities for partial names | 15:40 |
| larsu | - help out with dbus-test-runner test issues on ppc | 15:40 |
| larsu | </larsu> | 15:40 |
| willcooke | thanks larsu | 15:40 |
| Laney | can you get someone to review datetime? | 15:40 |
| larsu | Laney: you do it! | 15:41 |
| Laney | not sure about that :( | 15:41 |
| willcooke | larsu, do you think the OSB changes are doable for Thursday? | 15:41 |
| larsu | willcooke: I think we should merge as is | 15:41 |
| larsu | unless someone objects | 15:42 |
| larsu | ok time for objections is over. Glad you all like them so much! | 15:42 |
| willcooke | larsu, wfm | 15:42 |
| willcooke | thanks | 15:42 |
| willcooke | #topic Laney | 15:42 |
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| * larsu grins | 15:42 | |
| Laney | • Things what Lars did for me which are about dbus | 15:42 |
| Laney | ∘ I looked more at i-datetime but my fix was bad so larsu took over | 15:42 |
| Laney | ∘ I noticed that dbus-test-runner was failing a test on ppc64el and larsu is working on a fix | 15:42 |
| Laney | • Tried to find out about beta testing the font, not really with much success but at least there's a sort of working source package now. | 15:42 |
| Laney | • Packaged gstreamer 1.6 RC | 15:42 |
| Laney | ∘ -bad failed to build on armhf, test build is in the works now | 15:42 |
| Laney | ∘ had to fix libav to build, uploaded to Debian, synced | 15:42 |
| Laney | • Uploaded a new gtk (3.14.15) to a silo for the overlay ppa which Mir people want | 15:42 |
| Laney | • Updated file-roller, glib, e-d-s, evo, dbus (+ Debian as appropriate) | 15:42 |
| Laney | • Smooth some autopkgtests so things can migrate | 15:42 |
| Laney | • Got some training/instruction on the armhf/ppc64el autopkgtest infrastructure - can do light admin there now | 15:42 |
| Laney | • Some release team stuff like FFe reviews | 15:43 |
| Laney | • Uploaded a few things through the train (u-c-c, ubuntu-themes) | 15:43 |
| Laney | • Patch piloted | 15:43 |
| Laney | • Helped upload things to move from libav (back) to ffmpeg | 15:43 |
| Laney | ⁂ | 15:43 |
| larsu | Laney: s/my fix/tiny part of my fix/ - thanks for your work on that! | 15:43 |
| willcooke | thanks a lot Laney | 15:43 |
| willcooke | #topic qengho | 15:44 |
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| willcooke | - releasing chromium 45.0.2454.85 with GPU rendering re-enabled. | 15:44 |
| willcooke | - Cr test failures. Not Cr, not Sikuli. Jython grammar bug exposed by openjdk-8-jdk update? | 15:44 |
| willcooke | - A little more Cr/ozone/mir. | 15:44 |
| willcooke | #topic Sweet5hark | 15:44 |
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| Sweet5hark | not too much: | 15:44 |
| Sweet5hark | - testbuilds of 5.0.x on wily armhf/powepc -- all good | 15:44 |
| Sweet5hark | - FFE LibreOffice 5.0 for wily | 15:44 |
| Sweet5hark | - finding a sponsor for it (thanks cyphermox) | 15:44 |
| Sweet5hark | - nlpsolver and writer2latex build fixes for LibreOffice 5.0 | 15:44 |
| Sweet5hark | - conference preperation: slides and foo | 15:44 |
| Sweet5hark | - addding a staging area for unstable tests upstream ("make -k stagingcheck") | 15:44 |
| Sweet5hark | - bugzilla grinding | 15:44 |
| Sweet5hark | EOF | 15:44 |
| willcooke | thanks Sweet5hark | 15:44 |
| Laney | qengho: you might profit from giving sikuli an autopkgtest | 15:44 |
| willcooke | #topic TheMuso | 15:45 |
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| willcooke | * More work on Orca's gsettings backend which when implemented, will help the accessibility profile implementation. | 15:45 |
| willcooke | * Discovered that Unity in Wily has a regression with accessibility with the launcher and quicklists. Quicklists are not speaking with Orca, and once opened, the launcher itself goes silent. I started debugging, will report when I have more. | 15:45 |
| willcooke | #topic robert_ancell | 15:45 |
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| willcooke | Off sick so only two days to catch up on email and look at XMir issues. Released LightDM 1.16.0. | 15:45 |
| willcooke | #topic happyaron | 15:45 |
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| willcooke | desrt, are you back? | 15:46 |
| happyaron | unfortunately quite short ones.. | 15:46 |
| happyaron | 1. Meeting at Changsha with NUDT | 15:46 |
| happyaron | 2. Packaging of pinyin search, written by fjkong | 15:47 |
| happyaron | EOF | 15:47 |
| willcooke | thanks happyaron | 15:47 |
| willcooke | #topic desrt | 15:48 |
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| willcooke | hrm | 15:49 |
| willcooke | he ded | 15:49 |
| willcooke | #topic Any Other Business | 15:49 |
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| willcooke | Sprint is go. See email for more details. | 15:50 |
| Laney | prague plz | 15:50 |
| * larsu seconds prague | 15:50 | |
| Trevinho | willcooke: you forgot me? :) | 15:50 |
| Laney | hahaha | 15:50 |
| willcooke | and till | 15:50 |
| * happyaron really hopes Toronto, but no go... | 15:50 | |
| * didrocks +1 prague as well | 15:50 | |
| * larsu hugs Trevinho | 15:50 | |
| * Laney shuts the door on Trevinho's cage | 15:50 | |
| Trevinho | :°( | 15:50 |
| willcooke | Trevinho: Went to China. EOF | 15:50 |
| larsu | Laney: let me out first! | 15:50 |
| * Trevinho is ready to paste :P | 15:51 | |
| * larsu was still hugging | 15:51 | |
| willcooke | Trevinho, two secs... | 15:51 |
| willcooke | any more votes for sprint locations? | 15:51 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: I can be more verbose (but that is just rigth) :D | 15:51 |
| larsu | willcooke: 10 more for prague | 15:51 |
| didrocks | we did budapest twice, prague one, we need to be even! :) | 15:51 |
| Laney | <seb128> prague | 15:51 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: well prague never saw it, so i'd go there | 15:51 |
| Trevinho | :D | 15:51 |
| larsu | willcooke: not sure that's how voting works | 15:51 |
| * happyaron send everyone to China | 15:51 | |
| didrocks | I'm sure seb would +1 prague as well :p | 15:51 |
| Laney | <sabdfl> prague | 15:51 |
| * Laney coughs | 15:51 | |
| Trevinho | but I love Budapest as well... | 15:51 |
| didrocks | ahah | 15:51 |
| happyaron | Laney: lol | 15:52 |
| Sweet5hark | prague <3 | 15:52 |
| Trevinho | lol | 15:52 |
| Trevinho | So... Prague will be! (?) | 15:52 |
| attente | abstain | 15:52 |
| * larsu believes it when he sees it | 15:52 | |
| Laney | like the existence of toronto | 15:52 |
| willcooke | oki good | 15:52 |
| larsu | attente: THINK OF THE BEER | 15:52 |
| larsu | wait, budapest is equally good for that | 15:52 |
| attente | larsu: alcohol is ruining my life :P | 15:52 |
| larsu | attente: maybe we should do it in disneyland, then? | 15:53 |
| willcooke | let's loop back to Trevinho quick... | 15:53 |
| willcooke | #topic Trevinho | 15:53 |
| Trevinho | budapest is awesome for everything... But well, not that Prague is bad :) | 15:53 |
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| Laney | haha yes, get this meeting back in order | 15:53 |
| Trevinho | * Not full week because of travel | 15:53 |
| Trevinho | * Back from China, got some involvement in unity7 from Kylin guys (longer report soon) | 15:53 |
| Trevinho | * Setup a new meeting (every two weeks) in #ubuntukylin-devel for syncing | 15:53 |
| Trevinho | * Prepared a document with some development hints for unity7 (raw version http://is.gd/6nrYBA) | 15:53 |
| Trevinho | * Initial review of the unity scope pinyin search | 15:53 |
| Trevinho | * Prepared new landing for unity7 and compiz branches | 15:53 |
| Trevinho | * Testing new landing, new scrollbars needs some fixes (terminal) | 15:53 |
| Trevinho | *** | 15:54 |
| willcooke | thanks Trevinho | 15:54 |
| Laney | I think you need more than theme fixes for the terminal | 15:54 |
| willcooke | #topic tkamppeter | 15:54 |
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| Laney | see also webkit (e.g. devhelp) | 15:54 |
| larsu | Trevinho, Laney: I think rishi fixed the terminal scrollar problems. Is it too late to take .18? | 15:54 |
| tkamppeter | - cups-filters: Released 1.0.75 with a crasher fix in texttopdf | 15:54 |
| tkamppeter | - cups: Packaged 2.1.0 final release | 15:54 |
| tkamppeter | - ippusbxd: investigations on a bug | 15:54 |
| tkamppeter | - Bugs. | 15:54 |
| willcooke | thanks tkamppeter | 15:54 |
| Trevinho | Laney: yeah I think so.. But maybe not... At least it seems it works a little better | 15:54 |
| Laney | yes | 15:54 |
| willcooke | #topic AOB | 15:54 |
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| Trevinho | Laney: come on.. :P | 15:54 |
| Trevinho | Mh, wherever we go (prague or budapest), I've no direct flights from florence :°( | 15:55 |
| larsu | I'm glad meetingology repeats the topic all the time. I constantly forget where the home of the desktop team is | 15:55 |
| larsu | Trevinho: florence has an airport? :P | 15:55 |
| * Trevinho hits at his darts target with local politicians faces | 15:55 | |
| larsu | haha | 15:56 |
| didrocks | no direct for me to budapest, so 1h40 vs 4h30 in average :/ | 15:56 |
| didrocks | on* | 15:56 |
| Laney | get the train | 15:56 |
| larsu | not even with shitty airlines? | 15:56 |
| larsu | there's easyjet to both from berlin | 15:56 |
| didrocks | larsu: 4h30 is with shitty airlines | 15:56 |
| willcooke | ok, gonna wrap the meeting, we can continue discussions though. | 15:56 |
| larsu | ah, got it | 15:56 |
| willcooke | #endmeeting | 15:56 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Sep 8 15:56:56 2015 UTC. | 15:56 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-09-08-15.30.moin.txt | 15:56 |
| willcooke | Thanks all | 15:56 |
| didrocks | thanks! | 15:57 |
| Trevinho | larsu: mh, well... if you want to call it so. The landing is like going in roller coaster, due to very short strip | 15:57 |
| larsu | :) | 15:57 |
| Trevinho | flights lands with brakes on... I broke my tablet because of that | 15:57 |
| willcooke | BTW - really good Hangout on Air with the Mycroft CTO | 15:58 |
| larsu | seriously? That's some mad stuff | 15:58 |
| larsu | willcooke: with dholbach? | 15:58 |
| willcooke | larsu, yeah | 15:58 |
| larsu | ya he said something about that | 15:58 |
| Sweet5hark | prague is 6:30 even with train for me (changing once in berlin) | 15:59 |
| larsu | I might take the train as well | 16:00 |
| larsu | it's a beautiful ride | 16:00 |
| Sweet5hark | larsu: yeah. and in october chances are its neither too hot or too cold for deutsche bahn. | 16:04 |
| larsu | hehe | 16:04 |
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| willcooke | g'night | 18:34 |
| gQuigs | isn't Ubuntu Make the reboot of Ubuntu Quickly? (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-make | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Quickly) | 18:36 |
| gQuigs | time to retire Quickly/ | 18:36 |
| jcastro | no | 18:38 |
| jcastro | quickly was a quick way to write apps | 18:38 |
| jcastro | umake is a way to grab IDEs and development packages directly from upstream | 18:39 |
| gQuigs | jcastro: so quickly is still something we should recommend to developers? | 18:42 |
| jcastro | I'm not sure what the status of quickly is | 18:43 |
| gQuigs | hmm.. maybe it's more like the Ubuntu SDK replaced Quickly | 18:44 |
| gQuigs | yea, last trunk commit was 2012-11-01, will email desktop team to see if there is anything I'm missing | 18:48 |
| larsu | Laney: morning. Do you have a bug about that test failure? Turns out it is a small fix: https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/dbus-test-runner/fix-test-race | 22:21 |
| larsu | I'll merge propose this in the morning | 22:21 |
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