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ali1234do you think i should take on a project to migrate a joomla 1.5 site to whatever is the newest version?02:36
ali1234i only ever tried to use joomla once and it seemed like the most terrible thing ever02:37
ali1234but it's a straight migration, so it should be relatively easy02:38
zmoylan-piand if anything goes wrong in the next nth years it'll be your problem...02:56
ali1234yeah but that's more billable hours...02:56
zmoylan-pifind a mate who does joomla who can give you a yea nay on if it's straightforward?02:57
ali1234well yeah that's why i'm here...02:58
zmoylan-pii thought drupal had won the cms wars...03:02
ali1234maybe but the site is like 10 years old or whatever03:02
diddledandrupal won the enterprise03:03
diddledananyone who actually works with stuff prefers wordpress03:03
* zmoylan-pi puts on tremors 303:36
diddledanzmoylan-pi, you seem to have a worm fetish thing going on of late03:53
zmoylan-pinowt wrong with a good trashy monster movie04:10
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JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Physical Therapy Day! 😃08:33
bashrcmorning08:34
diddledanthat sounds like hard work08:40
bashrcgood moaning08:42
* diddledan complains08:43
diddledan(that's a good moaning for you!)08:44
davmor2JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWz9VN40nCA08:53
diddledanoh god08:53
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:56
diddledanallo08:57
brobostigonhi diddledan08:58
JamesTaitdavmor2, you deserve to be locked up for sharing that.08:58
davmor2JamesTait: It's your fault you picked the day :P08:59
diddledanhttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/aiforeveryone/mycroft-an-open-source-artificial-intelligence-for09:03
diddledan50 hours09:03
diddledanhmm, americans were having a lazy day yesterday?!09:21
diddledanthat's cheaky!09:22
diddledanbbc says: 30,000 migrants now in Greece, 20,000 in Lesbos <-- that sounds entirely family unfriendly to me09:28
bashrcI guess people are moving en masse to avoid ISIS09:31
bashrcprobably it's not smart to stick around when those folks show up09:33
bashrcrather like nazis09:34
diddledanbashrc: I guess women liking other women doesn't go down too well with ISIS?09:35
popeydiddledan: steady09:35
popeyi think we left that one at the gate when I left school 25 years ago09:35
diddledandoes anyone here have problems with virgin+SSH?09:38
popeywfm09:38
diddledangrr09:38
diddledanit keeps timing out on me09:38
popeymy device is in modem only mode though09:38
popeyit used to fail before that09:38
diddledanyeah mine's in modem mode too09:39
diddledan:-(09:39
popeyI stay on ssh all day every day09:39
popeyno problem here09:39
Davetiming out when you're using it? or when idle?09:52
Dave(also, use mosh, etc, etc, etc.)09:52
diddledanDave: in the middle of an sftp transfer09:52
Daveoh, well mosh probably doesn't help there then09:53
davmor2diddledan: wfm too to my home server and externals too09:54
davmor2diddledan: also my irc is on my home server so that connects well too :)09:54
diddledanhttp://bloke.org/linux/ssh-timeouts-on-docsis-3-virgin-media-50mb-100mb-120mb/09:55
diddledanthat suggests something afoot09:56
diddledanalthough 201209:56
diddledanmaybe I should switch to someone else09:57
davmor2diddledan: are you using standard ports? are you forwarding to a server from your router etc etc09:57
diddledanport 2209:57
diddledanand it's outgoing09:57
diddledannot incoming09:57
diddledanI don't have servers here09:57
diplodiddledan: That also says that it's superhub related not when in modem mode ?09:57
davmor2diddledan: then I have no issues and I'm doing it on and off all day the same as popey09:58
diddledandiplo: are you reading the same page?09:58
diplodiddledan: ServerAliveInterval 10009:58
davmor2diddledan: and that is to my home network and external too09:58
diploOn your ssh config ?09:58
diploSorry meant to say in the comments :D09:58
davmor2diddledan: are you sure the thing you are trying to connect to is up?09:59
diplohttp://superuser.com/questions/98562/way-to-avoid-ssh-connection-timeout-freezing-of-terminal-tab09:59
diddledansee, I'm not using openssh :-p09:59
davmor2diddledan: that is your problem then :P10:00
diddledanthis is using github.com/pkg/sftp10:00
davmor2diddledan: will that not still use the ssh protocol and therefore open ssh then, or are you using another operating system?10:02
diddledanno it uses an implementation of ssh in go10:03
diddledanpart of my problem is that my custoclient using that library doesn't actually do timeout how you expect - it just sits there pretending to have it's thumb in it's mouth until you get fed up and ^C it10:07
diddledanthe reason for the custoclient was because I need to remove files from the remote system which aren't in my local system meaning I need recursive enumeration of the remote files and an openssh sftp batch script can't anticipate that (AFAICT)10:09
diddledanit would be easy if I could rsync but this client insisted on the server provider and the server provider insists on sftp access only10:10
davmor2diddledan: don't know what to say then, I'm having no issues here, but I am only using standard ssh, maybe popey has a github account and can try that out10:10
diploIf you are elsewhere diddledan it works fine, just from the Virgin line ?10:12
diddledangood question - my colleagues haven't had an issue with their own access of the server from their locations but I myself haven't tried it anyplace else10:15
diddledanor maybe I did and I can't remember whether it worked or not :-p10:15
diploCould raise an issue against the github about asking for the setting I said earlier to be added ?10:18
diddledanok a native sftp session just died10:22
diddledanas in an openssh sftp10:22
foobarrydo you own the far end server diddledan ?11:26
foobarrycould be server timeout or cpu setting in limits.conf11:27
diddledannope11:29
diddledanI can't access the server any way other than sftp11:29
foobarrysome cisco routers drop idle connections11:29
diddledanthe thing is it seems to just stop in mid-transfer11:30
diddledani.e. going nicely at 10Mbit/s and then suddenly nada11:30
zmoylan-piis it a certain time into the connection timeout?11:32
diddledanno it's at a random interval11:32
davmor2diddledan: does your connection drop if you watch a video on youtube or is it only ssh?  also does it happen if you use another os?11:33
diddledanONLY ssh11:34
zmoylan-pitry a different ssh client?11:34
diddledanalthough videos on yootoob use HLS these days which is many many connections11:34
diddledanso that's not an apples-to-apples11:35
diddledanzmoylan-pi: it fails in both openssh sftp and a golang coded sftp client11:35
zmoylan-piso it sounds more the server than your end11:36
diddledanooh, nearly time for people to gawk at the animals feeding11:44
diddledanaka lunch11:44
* zmoylan-pi has beans, sausages and mash...11:45
davmor2Spag bol by the smell of it :)11:48
diddledan\o/11:48
diddledanspag-bog* :-p11:49
diddledanaka "sgetti"11:49
MartijnVdS/sbin/sgetty ?11:58
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diddledanlol11:59
diddledanhttps://twitter.com/50NerdsofGrey13:17
diddledanI defy you not to read that in moss' voice13:18
diddledanthen there's this: "There are only two hard problems in distributed systems:  2. Exactly-once delivery 1. Guaranteed order of messages 2. Exactly-once delivery"13:22
matiHi I have problem to connect my HP printer via network Can anyone help me?:)14:29
diddledanhahaha: http://boxerapp.com/blog/2012/11/12/pc-load-letter/15:02
diddledanthat is positively awesome15:03
diddledanshame it don't work on loonecks15:03
foobarryfound an old SSD card, hdparm -r /dev/sda gives 80MB/s :(15:03
foobarry-t15:03
foobarryeven my hard drive gives 110MB/s15:03
zmoylan-pibut does it make the sound of a dot matrix?15:04
diddledan\o/15:04
diddledanzmoylan-pi: I might have to submit a PR for that15:04
zmoylan-piit only counts as a dot matrix printout when someone is rocking backwards and forwards at their desk chanting the mantra. 'when will the printing stop?'15:06
LaneyBrr15:27
Laneycold today15:27
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diddledanwhy do apple have to do their announcements on wednesdays?! that's my day to be visting the parental units right when they're usually keynoting17:00
diddledani.e. 6pm17:00
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* diddledan watching the original thunderbirds17:33
diddledanI forgot how awesome it was17:33
zmoylan-pii preferred stingray17:34
zmoylan-pibut it was excellent17:34
popeyyeah, i liked stingray and joe 90. never really got into captain scarlet17:34
zmoylan-piyeah it was the earlier one, wasn't it and didn't quite gel17:35
zmoylan-pii even liked terrahawks17:35
popeyI loved that17:37
zmoylan-pidoesn't seem to get the same love as his 60s stuff17:38
* popey watches the titles again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNRzgB8PNtM17:38
popeythe graphics were very HHGTTG style17:38
popeyvector stuff17:38
popeyI recall making lego versions of their ships when I was a kid17:38
zmoylan-piand the ships in space 1999 are still some of the best ships in sci fi ever17:38
zmoylan-piand made it into red dwarf \o/17:39
popeyhttp://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/tv-radio/voice-terrahawks-hero-reveals-how-545708717:46
davmor2popey: this was still my favourite intro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acOnskcyrtA18:14
popeydavmor2: yeah, that blue and red ship, I'd make lego versions of that too :)18:49
popeynothing like this tho https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/10/78/ea/1078ea8a085b0b784266453cc95ca3d3.jpg18:50
davmor2popey: can you imagine a lego version of the starfleet ships the transform into the robot18:57
diddledanfun video with a snippet that explains a useful method of coping with various web browser fails: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IskiTVqHp1820:54
diddledanhttps://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/641369907381280768/photo/121:58
diddledanpopey: wtf? mcafee for prez?!22:35
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