=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [02:36] do you think i should take on a project to migrate a joomla 1.5 site to whatever is the newest version? [02:37] i only ever tried to use joomla once and it seemed like the most terrible thing ever [02:38] but it's a straight migration, so it should be relatively easy [02:56] and if anything goes wrong in the next nth years it'll be your problem... [02:56] yeah but that's more billable hours... [02:57] find a mate who does joomla who can give you a yea nay on if it's straightforward? [02:58] well yeah that's why i'm here... [03:02] i thought drupal had won the cms wars... [03:02] maybe but the site is like 10 years old or whatever [03:03] drupal won the enterprise [03:03] anyone who actually works with stuff prefers wordpress [03:36] * zmoylan-pi puts on tremors 3 [03:53] zmoylan-pi, you seem to have a worm fetish thing going on of late [04:10] nowt wrong with a good trashy monster movie === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [08:33] Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Physical Therapy Day! 😃 [08:34] morning [08:40] that sounds like hard work [08:42] good moaning [08:43] * diddledan complains [08:44] (that's a good moaning for you!) [08:53] JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWz9VN40nCA [08:53] oh god [08:56] morning boys and girls. [08:57] allo [08:58] hi diddledan [08:58] davmor2, you deserve to be locked up for sharing that. [08:59] JamesTait: It's your fault you picked the day :P [09:03] https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/aiforeveryone/mycroft-an-open-source-artificial-intelligence-for [09:03] 50 hours [09:21] hmm, americans were having a lazy day yesterday?! [09:22] that's cheaky! [09:28] bbc says: 30,000 migrants now in Greece, 20,000 in Lesbos <-- that sounds entirely family unfriendly to me [09:31] I guess people are moving en masse to avoid ISIS [09:33] probably it's not smart to stick around when those folks show up [09:34] rather like nazis [09:35] bashrc: I guess women liking other women doesn't go down too well with ISIS? [09:35] diddledan: steady [09:35] i think we left that one at the gate when I left school 25 years ago [09:38] does anyone here have problems with virgin+SSH? [09:38] wfm [09:38] grr [09:38] it keeps timing out on me [09:38] my device is in modem only mode though [09:38] it used to fail before that [09:39] yeah mine's in modem mode too [09:39] :-( [09:39] I stay on ssh all day every day [09:39] no problem here [09:52] timing out when you're using it? or when idle? [09:52] (also, use mosh, etc, etc, etc.) [09:52] Dave: in the middle of an sftp transfer [09:53] oh, well mosh probably doesn't help there then [09:54] diddledan: wfm too to my home server and externals too [09:54] diddledan: also my irc is on my home server so that connects well too :) [09:55] http://bloke.org/linux/ssh-timeouts-on-docsis-3-virgin-media-50mb-100mb-120mb/ [09:56] that suggests something afoot [09:56] although 2012 [09:57] maybe I should switch to someone else [09:57] diddledan: are you using standard ports? are you forwarding to a server from your router etc etc [09:57] port 22 [09:57] and it's outgoing [09:57] not incoming [09:57] I don't have servers here [09:57] diddledan: That also says that it's superhub related not when in modem mode ? [09:58] diddledan: then I have no issues and I'm doing it on and off all day the same as popey [09:58] diplo: are you reading the same page? [09:58] diddledan: ServerAliveInterval 100 [09:58] diddledan: and that is to my home network and external too [09:58] On your ssh config ? [09:58] Sorry meant to say in the comments :D [09:59] diddledan: are you sure the thing you are trying to connect to is up? [09:59] http://superuser.com/questions/98562/way-to-avoid-ssh-connection-timeout-freezing-of-terminal-tab [09:59] see, I'm not using openssh :-p [10:00] diddledan: that is your problem then :P [10:00] this is using github.com/pkg/sftp [10:02] diddledan: will that not still use the ssh protocol and therefore open ssh then, or are you using another operating system? [10:03] no it uses an implementation of ssh in go [10:07] part of my problem is that my custoclient using that library doesn't actually do timeout how you expect - it just sits there pretending to have it's thumb in it's mouth until you get fed up and ^C it [10:09] the reason for the custoclient was because I need to remove files from the remote system which aren't in my local system meaning I need recursive enumeration of the remote files and an openssh sftp batch script can't anticipate that (AFAICT) [10:10] it would be easy if I could rsync but this client insisted on the server provider and the server provider insists on sftp access only [10:10] diddledan: don't know what to say then, I'm having no issues here, but I am only using standard ssh, maybe popey has a github account and can try that out [10:12] If you are elsewhere diddledan it works fine, just from the Virgin line ? [10:15] good question - my colleagues haven't had an issue with their own access of the server from their locations but I myself haven't tried it anyplace else [10:15] or maybe I did and I can't remember whether it worked or not :-p [10:18] Could raise an issue against the github about asking for the setting I said earlier to be added ? [10:22] ok a native sftp session just died [10:22] as in an openssh sftp [11:26] do you own the far end server diddledan ? [11:27] could be server timeout or cpu setting in limits.conf [11:29] nope [11:29] I can't access the server any way other than sftp [11:29] some cisco routers drop idle connections [11:30] the thing is it seems to just stop in mid-transfer [11:30] i.e. going nicely at 10Mbit/s and then suddenly nada [11:32] is it a certain time into the connection timeout? [11:32] no it's at a random interval [11:33] diddledan: does your connection drop if you watch a video on youtube or is it only ssh? also does it happen if you use another os? [11:34] ONLY ssh [11:34] try a different ssh client? [11:34] although videos on yootoob use HLS these days which is many many connections [11:35] so that's not an apples-to-apples [11:35] zmoylan-pi: it fails in both openssh sftp and a golang coded sftp client [11:36] so it sounds more the server than your end [11:44] ooh, nearly time for people to gawk at the animals feeding [11:44] aka lunch [11:45] * zmoylan-pi has beans, sausages and mash... [11:48] Spag bol by the smell of it :) [11:48] \o/ [11:49] spag-bog* :-p [11:49] aka "sgetti" [11:58] /sbin/sgetty ? === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [11:59] lol [13:17] https://twitter.com/50NerdsofGrey [13:18] I defy you not to read that in moss' voice [13:22] then there's this: "There are only two hard problems in distributed systems: 2. Exactly-once delivery 1. Guaranteed order of messages 2. Exactly-once delivery" [14:29] Hi I have problem to connect my HP printer via network Can anyone help me?:) [15:02] hahaha: http://boxerapp.com/blog/2012/11/12/pc-load-letter/ [15:03] that is positively awesome [15:03] shame it don't work on loonecks [15:03] found an old SSD card, hdparm -r /dev/sda gives 80MB/s :( [15:03] -t [15:03] even my hard drive gives 110MB/s [15:04] but does it make the sound of a dot matrix? [15:04] \o/ [15:04] zmoylan-pi: I might have to submit a PR for that [15:06] it only counts as a dot matrix printout when someone is rocking backwards and forwards at their desk chanting the mantra. 'when will the printing stop?' [15:27] Brr [15:27] cold today === NET||abu- is now known as NET||abuse [17:00] why do apple have to do their announcements on wednesdays?! that's my day to be visting the parental units right when they're usually keynoting [17:00] i.e. 6pm === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:33] * diddledan watching the original thunderbirds [17:33] I forgot how awesome it was [17:34] i preferred stingray [17:34] but it was excellent [17:34] yeah, i liked stingray and joe 90. never really got into captain scarlet [17:35] yeah it was the earlier one, wasn't it and didn't quite gel [17:35] i even liked terrahawks [17:37] I loved that [17:38] doesn't seem to get the same love as his 60s stuff [17:38] * popey watches the titles again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNRzgB8PNtM [17:38] the graphics were very HHGTTG style [17:38] vector stuff [17:38] I recall making lego versions of their ships when I was a kid [17:38] and the ships in space 1999 are still some of the best ships in sci fi ever [17:39] and made it into red dwarf \o/ [17:46] http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/tv-radio/voice-terrahawks-hero-reveals-how-5457087 [18:14] popey: this was still my favourite intro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acOnskcyrtA [18:49] davmor2: yeah, that blue and red ship, I'd make lego versions of that too :) [18:50] nothing like this tho https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/10/78/ea/1078ea8a085b0b784266453cc95ca3d3.jpg [18:57] popey: can you imagine a lego version of the starfleet ships the transform into the robot [20:54] fun video with a snippet that explains a useful method of coping with various web browser fails: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IskiTVqHp18 [21:58] https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/641369907381280768/photo/1 [22:35] popey: wtf? mcafee for prez?! === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away