[07:48] good suggestion OvenWerks === SakreZZz is now known as sakrecoer === sakrecoer is now known as sakreZZzz === sakreZZzz is now known as sakrecoer [18:36] finaly got this dev install running. first thing i did was to open ubuntustduio controls... [18:37] what is it supposed to do? realtime is on, and my user is in the audio group... why would i want to change those settings? [18:42] ok, help answered my questions. its in case the machine has multiple users... [18:45] if you added a user, that user wouldnt necessarily get those tweaks [18:46] thanks! [18:46] makes sense... === sakrecoer is now known as sakreZzZZzz [19:42] i organised all the fonts distributed in to a few groups in fontmanager. the basic ones: sans, serif, mono, script, breadtext and one named "poster" for all the fantasy fonts. The config file ends up in ~/.config/ is this file something that could be interesting for the masses? [19:43] i also deactivated all the "poster" fonts to enhance inkscape speed at start up. This creates a file ~/.config/fontmanager/ maybe this can be usefull too? [20:32] sakreZzZZzz: The question is if this file can be used from /etc/ or /etc/xdg/ or /usr/share/something. [20:33] sakreZzZZzz: it would be best to use the system config file for a change to the ISO. [20:40] sakreZzZZzz: what is the actual fontmanager application you are using? the "Font Manager" from our menu in 1404 does not use that directory by default. I am looking at font-manager from command line. [20:48] sakreZzZZzz: Only Ubuntu Studio has that set up for the first user. Anything else based on Ubuntu won't. [20:48] So, if you are on regular Ubuntu, install ubuntustudio-controls to make sure the user gets realtime privilege [20:50] The audio group membership is a hack done to the installer, which I haven't actually looked at how it is done [20:50] Was done by someone not in the ubuntu studio team. Might have been cjwatson [20:51] In Debian, all regular users are in audio group. In Ubuntu not, because of security reasons. It's not a regular user group anymore, so to speak, and shouldn't be on Debian either === sakreZzZZzz is now known as sakrecoer [20:52] I've been trying to change that, but Debian folks are a bit hard to communicate with sometimes (reference to a Ubuntu wiki page automatically made someone reject my bug report) [20:53] I will give it another go this autumn [20:53] My goal is for there to be a single way to get realtime privilege in all Debian derived, and in a way that you get that just by installing jackd [20:54] since jackd is packaged for Debian, it assumes all users are in audio group, which is true only in Debian [20:55] thanks! [20:55] That single problem is a huge barrier in Debian based audio world [20:55] ..for users [20:57] OvenWerks: yes, font-manager. in 14.04. you are right, the file is generated once fontamanger is started but only after the user activley creates a group [20:57] the trick would be to find where to put it... [20:58] it's the standard ubuntustudio fontlist... [21:00] sakrecoer: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.html shows some system file locations. [21:01] zequence: i understand better now. I've never installed ubuntustudio in a school or an environement where one computer needs several users. wealthy me....( ..) [21:01] sakrecoer: -controls also allows installing Studio metas on another flavour(kubuntu, xubuntu, etc.) [21:04] ok... hmm... [21:04] * sakrecoer so many questions [21:05] anyways... audio questions other day :) [21:07] fonts a gogo...:p [21:08] i like the new tab focus [21:08] funky nice [21:13] i'm trying to understand the link OvenWerks just sent. [21:13] the file that fontmanager is using is an .xml file [21:13] fontgroups.xml [21:14] sakrecoer: That link actually came from the help that is part of font-manager. [21:15] Click on the circle with the ? and then select advanced settings. [21:17] What it is basically saying is that there are some system files that are generic across XDG compliant systems that could do what you are trying to do with font-manager specific files. [21:18] * OvenWerks is disapointed that the documentation does not give more information about font-manager's config files. [21:18] * sakrecoer looking at a circle with the ? and a funky singing cat-dog [21:19] i think it looks good [21:19] i just learned about it [21:19] so i have a lot to read... [21:20] but yeah, it's a bit wild the doc.. [21:20] i wonder if the system first loads the fonts, and then fontmanager unloiads them? [21:20] man font-manager is very sparce. [21:20] :P yuck! [21:21] but can we not put files in ~/ ? [21:21] hehe... my question echoed in me... [21:23] OvenWerks: sparce? the man as in manual? [21:26] sakrecoer: type: [21:27] man font-manager [21:27] from the command line. [21:27] The unix man page should normally have a list of all config file locations [21:28] :D thanks! [21:28] look at man bash for example. There is a Files section. [21:29] oh! a REAL poem! [21:30] how to search in man [21:30] ? [21:30] ah maybe i found.. [21:31] :p [21:33] hmm... pattern "Files" not ofund... [21:36] so the generated filepath and the generated file is hard coded in font-manager [21:36] and its not ok to place it there at install..? [21:43] * sakrecoer epiphany [21:47] not a very long one... [21:50] found an interesting py script [21:50] /usr/share/font-manager/utils/xmlutils.py [21:55] sakrecoer: Sorry, I guess it is a FILES section. search with /FILES in a man page as it is just using less. [21:56] no prob :) [21:56] al the confiog files are talking about local.conf that will replace them soon and alsto about Fontconfig creating files [21:57] but i can't find "fontconfig" program... [22:11] i have to charge my wetware battery.. :,C [22:12] how is that desktop files cleaning thing going, i have to look into that. [22:12] bye y'all! goodgame! === sakrecoer is now known as sakreZzZZz