| bluesabre | Unit193: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c6wjZFXVZU&feature=youtu.be | 00:46 |
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| knome | cool | 00:46 |
| micahg | back | 01:36 |
| bluesabre | hey micahg | 01:45 |
| micahg | hi bluesabre | 01:45 |
| bluesabre | how's it going? | 01:45 |
| micahg | ok, trying to finish up the reviews quickly | 01:46 |
| micahg | thanks for the blueman upload | 01:46 |
| bluesabre | np | 01:46 |
| bluesabre | been home all day, in front of my computer for 14 hours so far | 01:47 |
| bluesabre | might be time for a break | 01:47 |
| micahg | wow, I haven't been that fortunate :) | 01:47 |
| bluesabre | I'd say I haven't been that fortunate either, considering everything else I could have been doing ;) | 01:48 |
| knome | micahg, good luck with the stuff and please remember to update the work items once you complete them | 02:05 |
| knome | be back tomorrow | 02:05 |
| knome | nighty | 02:05 |
| bluesabre | night all | 02:52 |
| yakamo | hello | 02:53 |
| yakamo | does xubuntu use systemd? | 02:54 |
| micahg | We're using whichever init system Ubuntu is | 02:55 |
| micahg | so, for 14.04, no; for 15.10, yes | 02:55 |
| * micahg didn't realize before that comments on MRs now need to be saved... | 02:56 | |
| yakamo | micahg: thanks thats good to know | 02:57 |
| yakamo | i thought ubuntu had systemd for a few years | 03:13 |
| micahg | in the repo, not as default init | 03:16 |
| yakamo | ah ok | 03:16 |
| yakamo | well im gona have to try out xubuntu i think | 03:17 |
| micahg | it has a nice balance between functional and keeping out of the way IMHO | 03:17 |
| yakamo | im originally a Debian user | 03:18 |
| yakamo | im used to building up a custom system | 03:18 |
| yakamo | but im fed up with that and just want to get to work on my projects these days | 03:18 |
| micahg | two review down, one to go | 03:29 |
| micahg | s/review/reviews/ | 03:29 |
| SwissBot | micahg meant: "two reviews down, one to go" | 03:29 |
| yakamo | what are you reviewing | 03:30 |
| micahg | Merge requests to start building a xubuntu core image | 03:30 |
| yakamo | ah ok | 03:30 |
| yakamo | so lots to do then | 03:31 |
| micahg | yeah, I have a backlog about a mile long ;) | 03:32 |
| yakamo | result is worth it | 03:33 |
| micahg | oh, I don't have much with producing Xubuntu itself anymore unfortunately, here and there I help with uploads and review and am an avid user, here's the wiki with project leads listed, they do a lot more than I do for Xubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Contact, there are many others that help as well | 03:34 |
| yakamo | every bit counts though | 03:36 |
| yakamo | dam i should get some sleep its way late | 03:40 |
| micahg | ok, reviews done | 04:12 |
| krytarik | micahg: Thanks! | 04:24 |
| micahg | you're welcome | 04:24 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: weeeeeird fix for parole dying on quitting, maybe the same is true for gmusicbrowser (which started to do that last cycle) | 05:43 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: anyway, still good you found it and all | 05:43 |
| ochosi | huge thumbs up for that | 05:43 |
| * ochosi is off for work | 05:43 | |
| slickymasterWork | knome, saw your ping in the logs | 08:46 |
| slickymasterWork | I'll test it tonight | 08:46 |
| bluesabre | morning all | 09:52 |
| bluesabre | knome: I have one more request for the tracker (may or may not be related)... can we show historical data for image sizes? | 09:54 |
| bluesabre | current releases and running dev cycle | 09:55 |
| bluesabre | unless there is already a place that does that, ofc | 09:55 |
| knome | bluesabre, where do i get that data? | 10:01 |
| knome | micahg, thanks! did you have time to peek at the packageset issue? | 10:03 |
| bluesabre | hey knome | 10:04 |
| knome | hey bluesabre | 10:04 |
| bluesabre | um, hey knome | 10:06 |
| knome | :D :D | 10:06 |
| knome | says he reluctacntly | 10:06 |
| knome | -c | 10:06 |
| * bluesabre doesn't know what micahg did | 10:09 | |
| knome | Unit193: do you know what micahg reviewed? :P | 10:09 |
| knome | Unit193, and what effects that has on our blueprints... | 10:10 |
| bluesabre | found the mps on the dev blueprint (where I should have looked) | 10:15 |
| bluesabre | https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/debian-cd/xubuntu-core/+merge/267879 | 10:15 |
| bluesabre | https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/livecd-rootfs/xubuntu-core/+merge/267880 | 10:15 |
| bluesabre | https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/ubuntu-cdimage/xubuntu-core/+merge/268167 | 10:15 |
| bluesabre | sounds like Unit193 only needs to make a few changes | 10:16 |
| knome | Unit193, do you have a clear idea where to go next with these? | 10:16 |
| bluesabre | so that's good | 10:16 |
| bluesabre | knome: as for image data, could potentially parse cdimage... though I can imagine that to be crap | 10:18 |
| knome | yes, that's the "obvious" way | 10:22 |
| knome | but of course, if there was a more elegant way... | 10:23 |
| knome | at least the path is always same | 10:23 |
| knome | btw, we should poke people to change our target size | 10:24 |
| knome | bluesabre, would you like to do that on -release? | 10:24 |
| bluesabre | I can do that | 10:24 |
| bluesabre | what target size do we want to request? | 10:25 |
| bluesabre | (we're currently over 1G) | 10:25 |
| knome | i don't think it matters too much, i was thinking whether 1.5G is an insane target (since there aren't really devices of that size) | 10:25 |
| knome | if we want to target a specific device, then it could be 2G | 10:25 |
| knome | but it could just as well be 1.5G... | 10:26 |
| knome | as long as we don't get the warnings | 10:26 |
| knome | i mean for the real target size we should likely have a discussion with the team | 10:26 |
| knome | but i'd rather just dodge the bullets now ASAP | 10:26 |
| knome | brb | 10:27 |
| knome | actually, bbiab | 10:30 |
| knome | ok, back | 10:50 |
| bluesabre | gotta head to work, bbl | 11:30 |
| flocculant | didn't notice change in icons on logout dialogue | 16:39 |
| flocculant | or rather - didn't before - have now or I'd not have commented :D | 16:40 |
| knome | hey cyphermox, we'll need an upload for ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu - i've also merged ubuntu-specific stuff there, so they'll want it too :) | 18:39 |
| cyphermox | yup, I told GunnarHj I'd do an upload today, still mean to | 18:46 |
| knome | thanks! | 18:46 |
| cyphermox | just getting stuff together for other things before I can get to the slideshow | 18:46 |
| cyphermox | knome: apparently harald sitter uploaded it an hour ago. | 19:02 |
| knome | oh great! | 19:02 |
| knome | nice guy, good work | 19:03 |
| flocculant | knome: are we supposed to have ubuntu login icons? | 19:26 |
| knome | flocculant, what on earth ARE "ubuntu login icons" ? | 19:26 |
| flocculant | hang on | 19:27 |
| flocculant | http://i.imgur.com/PE73gtQ.png | 19:28 |
| flocculant | they've turned up recently as far as I can tell | 19:29 |
| knome | flocculant, used by default? | 19:29 |
| flocculant | also don't remember ubuntu mono either | 19:29 |
| flocculant | seems so for the logout dialogue | 19:29 |
| knome | aha | 19:29 |
| knome | well for your question, no, i don't think we are supposed to have them | 19:30 |
| knome | maybe bluesabre can fix that | 19:30 |
| knome | O:) | 19:30 |
| flocculant | http://i.imgur.com/HCs0l3h.png | 19:30 |
| knome | heh. | 19:32 |
| knome | that's not the worst thing, but it's not very pretty either.. | 19:32 |
| flocculant | yep | 19:32 |
| flocculant | dependency of adwaita I think | 19:32 |
| flocculant | http://paste.ubuntu.com/12316063/ | 19:32 |
| knome | o.O | 19:33 |
| knome | why is THAT even in our task? | 19:33 |
| flocculant | oh hang on ... | 19:34 |
| flocculant | that might be from me not live :D | 19:34 |
| knome | no, the task says xubuntu-desktop | 19:34 |
| knome | but maybe it's because it's gnome default | 19:34 |
| knome | maybe that is a dependency for something else we want to have | 19:34 |
| flocculant | adwaita? | 19:36 |
| knome | mm. | 19:36 |
| flocculant | evince-gtk is one | 19:37 |
| knome | right | 19:37 |
| flocculant | bit mank - don't much like the 'zz' on hibernate | 19:37 |
| flocculant | not that I see that anywhere but in vm :p | 19:38 |
| knome | heh | 19:38 |
| flocculant | thought I was seeing things for a minute tbh :) | 19:44 |
| flocculant | I guess if that's the worse thing we need to worry about atm then we're not doing too badly | 19:44 |
| knome | we're definitely doing pretty good | 19:45 |
| flocculant | yep | 19:45 |
| knome | another bug fix released thanks to bluesabre and cyphermox | 19:45 |
| knome | and with that, another work item too | 19:45 |
| knome | and since micah reviewed the patches yesterday, one item done and three more can progress | 19:46 |
| knome | and one of yours might get unblocked soon | 19:46 |
| flocculant | yep - been watching those discussions ;) | 19:46 |
| * knome has been updating the blueprints | 19:46 | |
| flocculant | :) | 19:47 |
| flocculant | should see feh soon? | 19:47 |
| knome | next build | 19:47 |
| flocculant | \o/ | 19:48 |
| knome | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1437180/comments/13 | 19:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1437180 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Desktop Icons show on the install only desktop" [Medium,Fix released] | 19:48 |
| knome | btw, did you have anything specific you wanted us to correlate in the survey results? | 19:50 |
| flocculant | iirc was mostly interested in office/media | 19:50 |
| knome | they were both around 20-25% | 19:50 |
| knome | but office was with abiword and gnumeric | 19:50 |
| flocculant | yes | 19:51 |
| flocculant | ~25% used defaults? | 19:51 |
| flocculant | assuming so | 19:51 |
| knome | yep | 19:51 |
| knome | but what i was actually asking | 19:52 |
| knome | is if you wanted me to correlate that with something | 19:52 |
| flocculant | /usr/lib/gcc is enormously bigger in wily than trusty | 19:52 |
| knome | eg. there was ~70% percent who said they're power users | 19:52 |
| flocculant | mmm | 19:53 |
| flocculant | not sure | 19:53 |
| knome | so should we check how much of the *non-power-users* were happy with the default selection? | 19:53 |
| flocculant | I'd say so - yes | 19:53 |
| knome | heh, yeah... | 19:53 |
| knome | so if you have other similar correlations you'd like to see - just tell me and i'll dig that information up | 19:53 |
| flocculant | as long as our baseline is what I assume - power user will go meh and find/install what they want | 19:53 |
| knome | yep | 19:54 |
| flocculant | I think to my mind - the correlations we should work from as a base are the non-power user | 19:54 |
| knome | so get all results with only non-power-users? | 19:54 |
| flocculant | 33MB in trusty, 410 in wily :p | 19:54 |
| knome | also, what about the small amount that told others maintain their computer? | 19:55 |
| knome | should we also leave them out? | 19:55 |
| flocculant | I would | 19:55 |
| knome | ok | 19:55 |
| flocculant | I would assume that 'they' are power users | 19:55 |
| flocculant | at least more powered up than those repsonding :) | 19:55 |
| flocculant | not that I've any idea what we'd do if we decided something about gmb | 19:58 |
| knome | heh | 19:58 |
| knome | media is more than just gmb though | 19:59 |
| flocculant | of course | 20:00 |
| flocculant | should I report the icon issue so there's something as a record? | 20:01 |
| knome | sure | 20:02 |
| flocculant | I'll do it from the daily - no fighting with apport and ppa's then :p | 20:02 |
| knome | heh | 20:03 |
| flocculant | mmm - what package shall I report it against? | 20:03 |
| knome | no idea... | 20:03 |
| knome | are they used after installing as well? | 20:03 |
| knome | or just at installation? | 20:03 |
| flocculant | not sure - I'll install it | 20:04 |
| knome | :) | 20:04 |
| knome | if only at installation, then probably ubiquity | 20:04 |
| flocculant | mostly just been checking the image works lately | 20:04 |
| flocculant | that said I do see the same on my machine too | 20:06 |
| flocculant | but that's had all sorts done and installed on it | 20:06 |
| flocculant | knome: nope - installed as well | 20:14 |
| knome | mhm | 20:15 |
| knome | sounds like packaging | 20:15 |
| knome | or sth like that | 20:15 |
| knome | xubuntu-artwork? :P | 20:15 |
| flocculant | ok | 20:15 |
| flocculant | drums fingers waiting for launchpad ... | 20:16 |
| flocculant | bug 1493547 | 20:22 |
| ubottu | bug 1493547 in xubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu Login icon set used for dialogue" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1493547 | 20:22 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: ^^ | 20:31 |
| flocculant | I shall see what gets said in the morning | 20:31 |
| flocculant | night | 20:31 |
| krytarik | flocculant: That it's actually elementary Xfce. :D | 20:33 |
| krytarik | Night though. | 20:34 |
| knome | slickymaster, if you link to the PDFs from each page, then you can't really do the paragraph | 21:46 |
| slickymaster | can't a sort of a header, or footer, note be added to the xml knome? | 21:47 |
| knome | sure, we can do the links in the header or footer, but there are visual issues with that | 21:47 |
| knome | in the header, it wouldn't look very good with a long text | 21:48 |
| knome | and in the footer area we already have the navigation icons | 21:48 |
| knome | would it appear before or after that? | 21:48 |
| knome | and in the footer, i think it's relatively hidden... | 21:48 |
| knome | we don't even know how many people would rather use a PDF than the html version | 21:49 |
| slickymaster | yeah, I'm not taking the aesthetics aspect of the solution in consideration | 21:50 |
| slickymaster | the footer option is to forget, due to the navigation icons | 21:51 |
| knome | also, if people link to a specific section to the docs, why couldn't the mention there is a PDF version available as well? | 21:51 |
| knome | when i point people to the docs, i mention they are also available from the menu | 21:52 |
| knome | and if they go to the menu and see the docs, they will end up on the front page with the PDF mention | 21:52 |
| knome | or in other words, are we really overthinking the possibility that somebody might "miss out" on the PDF? | 21:53 |
| slickymaster | no the idea was to give people the chance of getting 'partial' PDFs id wanted | 21:54 |
| knome | no, you can't get a partial PDF | 21:54 |
| knome | it would always be the full PDF | 21:54 |
| knome | unless we started exporting per-chapter PDF's but ugh, what a mess | 21:54 |
| slickymaster | hmm, in that case I misunderstood it | 21:54 |
| slickymaster | being that the case, there's no need to discuss it | 21:55 |
| knome | krytarik, ha! i win! | 21:55 |
| slickymaster | lol | 21:56 |
| ochosi | late evening all | 21:57 |
| knome | hello ochosi | 21:57 |
| ochosi | flocculant: yeah, those themes really shouldn't be installed. we don't need them at all | 21:57 |
| slickymaster | hi ochosi | 21:57 |
| knome | ochosi, has the baby sang "i dress up in women's clothing, like my dear pa-pa" yet? | 21:57 |
| knome | or - have you sang that to the baby :P | 21:58 |
| knome | sung? | 21:58 |
| knome | whateva | 21:59 |
| ochosi | :) | 22:00 |
| ochosi | not yet | 22:00 |
| knome | aha! that does imply that you will sing it together | 22:01 |
| knome | ...and that implies you are dressing up in women's clothing | 22:01 |
| ochosi | ofc | 22:02 |
| knome | ok, now that this discussion is publicly logged and archived, let's move on... | 22:03 |
| ochosi | ineed | 22:03 |
| ochosi | indeed | 22:03 |
| knome | what do youneed? | 22:03 |
| ochosi | i like how the tracker looks | 22:04 |
| ochosi | good progress | 22:04 |
| knome | yep | 22:04 |
| knome | totally | 22:04 |
| knome | now if only Unit193 got his act together and did the changes micahg asked in his reviews | 22:04 |
| ochosi | :> | 22:04 |
| ochosi | yeah, where's that one hiding i wonder... | 22:05 |
| knome | then bluesabre could help Unit193 with the sponsoring stuff and then they could ask flocculant to test the core ISO | 22:05 |
| knome | and maybe krytarik could help with updating his bits and also prod slickymaster to help with testing | 22:05 |
| knome | so pleia2 could write a blog article about it | 22:05 |
| ochosi | nice dependency chain | 22:06 |
| slickymaster | btw knome we still have the FAQ content to think about | 22:06 |
| ochosi | btw, new greybird pull request | 22:06 |
| knome | ochosi, and nice pinging! :P | 22:06 |
| ochosi | hehe | 22:06 |
| knome | slickymaster, yeah... | 22:06 |
| bluesabre | evening all | 22:07 |
| * knome is the summoner | 22:07 | |
| slickymaster | hey bluesabre | 22:07 |
| ochosi | knome: please check that one out, it looks very promising | 22:08 |
| ochosi | https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/pull/104 | 22:08 |
| * knome checks | 22:08 | |
| ochosi | if you can, pls test | 22:10 |
| ochosi | it's fairly easy, just clone to $somedir, then create ~/.themes/Greybird-a11y and ln -s $somedir/xfwm4 to Greybird-a11y | 22:10 |
| knome | i'll put that on my "mental" list for later this week | 22:10 |
| ochosi | oh | 22:10 |
| ochosi | i'll likely merge it today | 22:11 |
| knome | haha | 22:11 |
| knome | ok | 22:11 |
| ochosi | i don't have many free evenings/hours | 22:11 |
| ochosi | so i have to be fairly efficient if i wanna get that last workitem done | 22:11 |
| knome | it looks fine to me in the github diff | 22:11 |
| ochosi | in context: http://i.imgur.com/PFFc2vR.png | 22:11 |
| knome | yep | 22:12 |
| micahg | knome: no, not yet, that's a little more complicated I htink | 22:12 |
| knome | micahg, what are you referring to? | 22:13 |
| micahg | packageset issue | 22:13 |
| knome | ok | 22:13 |
| ochosi | well frankly we should contact whoever pulled in orion to kubuntu and ask them to "return" it to us | 22:14 |
| ochosi | or we can also kick it out of shimmer themes | 22:14 |
| ochosi | it's not maintained anymore (by us, or at all, afaik | 22:14 |
| ochosi | so there are some easy solutions | 22:15 |
| knome | what was the package through which it got pulled to kubuntu again? | 22:16 |
| knome | or the chain | 22:16 |
| micahg | that's not it, the logic around kubuntu is still special cased, where I think it maybe shouldn't be anymore, I still need to dig into it | 22:17 |
| ochosi | right, but can't we just ask nicely? | 22:18 |
| ochosi | i mean there must be a responsible person | 22:18 |
| knome | i could ask a kubuntu person if i had the details... | 22:18 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: would you be ok with adding another xfwm4 theme to the greybird build? we would need Greybird-a11y to show up as a separate xfwm4 theme like Greybird_compact | 22:19 |
| knome | that would be nice of us, now that we actually have such | 22:19 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: that's easy to do | 22:20 |
| bluesabre | as long as you give me the new theme before thursday ;) | 22:21 |
| knome | bluesabre, notice that you might need sponsoring :P | 22:21 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: i can finalize this now | 22:22 |
| knome | yay | 22:22 |
| bluesabre | knome: ah, good point | 22:22 |
| bluesabre | so today would be good | 22:22 |
| bluesabre | then micahg might be able to sponsor for me soon | 22:22 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: the upstream logout icon caught flocculant off guard since its orange: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-artwork/+bug/1493547 | 22:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1493547 in xubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu Login icon set used for dialogue" [Undecided,New] | 22:25 |
| ochosi | hehe | 22:25 |
| ochosi | it's a nice one, i personally like it | 22:25 |
| ochosi | but the restart one looks a bit dusty next to it | 22:25 |
| ochosi | i'll probably have to redo that one for 16.04 | 22:25 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: would i create much work for you if i renamed the xfwm4_compact folder to xfwm4-compact? | 22:28 |
| ochosi | no idea why i ever used an underscore there | 22:29 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: go ahead | 22:29 |
| ochosi | k, thanks | 22:29 |
| knome | ochosi, with all of your dashitis, good variety... | 22:29 |
| ochosi | hey, i love my dash-itis | 22:31 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: ok, it's all merged | 22:35 |
| ochosi | wanna take a brief look before i tag a new release? | 22:35 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: checking it | 22:35 |
| ochosi | ty | 22:35 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: yeah, that should be fine | 22:36 |
| bluesabre | just gotta update wily and daily packaging | 22:37 |
| ochosi | i was able to close the currently oldest greybird issue \o/ | 22:37 |
| ochosi | (single px borders are unusable for resizing) | 22:37 |
| bluesabre | woot | 22:38 |
| ochosi | btw, tagging elementary-xfce was a bit superfluous unless we change our policy there to always tag a new release when we upload | 22:38 |
| ochosi | so far we basically just pushed snapshots of it | 22:39 |
| ochosi | and i released independently | 22:39 |
| ochosi | but yeah, it's a sort of constant rolling release thingy | 22:39 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: you said to tag a new release | 22:40 |
| ochosi | oh, i meant of xubuntu-artwork :> | 22:40 |
| ochosi | but nvm, i really have no idea when it would be sane to tag a new icon theme release | 22:41 |
| bluesabre | :D | 22:42 |
| bluesabre | +icon, +release number | 22:42 |
| bluesabre | :D | 22:42 |
| ochosi | ;) | 22:42 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: ok, so tagging greybird now... | 22:44 |
| ochosi | unless you needed anything else there | 22:44 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: go ahead | 22:47 |
| ochosi | there you go: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/releases/tag/v1.6.2 | 22:48 |
| bluesabre | woot | 22:48 |
| ochosi | knome: and another workitem done | 22:49 |
| ochosi | and yay, artwork is the first blueprint to be totally done | 22:49 |
| knome | :) | 22:49 |
| knome | it's often been like that | 22:49 |
| ochosi | ofc | 22:49 |
| ochosi | we're the most efficient team ; | 22:50 |
| ochosi | ) | 22:50 |
| * knome high fives ochosi | 22:50 | |
| * ochosi high fives back | 22:50 | |
| knome | oops, i missed | 22:50 |
| knome | hope that didn't hurt your nose too much | 22:50 |
| knome | the silliest thing is when high fives and "gang greetings" go wrong | 22:50 |
| knome | it looks so silly and embarrassing at the same time | 22:51 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: so, what do you want the theme to be called? | 22:51 |
| bluesabre | greybird-a11y? | 22:51 |
| knome | bluesabre, seans-secret-lab | 22:51 |
| bluesabre | knome: OK | 22:51 |
| ochosi | hmm | 22:51 |
| ochosi | i thought we would call it that | 22:51 |
| ochosi | but if you have a friendlier name in mind, i don't mind | 22:51 |
| knome | greybird-accessibility isn't bad either | 22:51 |
| ochosi | yeah | 22:51 |
| ochosi | a11y is not a very accessible shorthand | 22:52 |
| bluesabre | grostrich? | 22:52 |
| knome | because really, is it accessible to say "a11y" | 22:52 |
| knome | heh, yes | 22:52 |
| knome | gal-blatter-os | 22:52 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: i like that :D | 22:52 |
| ochosi | but let's go with Greybird-accessiblity ;) | 22:53 |
| knome | -blity?! | 22:53 |
| knome | noess | 22:53 |
| bluesabre | a11y might be better | 22:53 |
| bluesabre | r not | 22:53 |
| * bluesabre doesn't know | 22:54 | |
| ochosi | ok ok, accessibility | 22:54 |
| bluesabre | accessibility it is | 22:54 |
| ochosi | yeah, it's longer but more readable | 22:54 |
| bluesabre | assessability | 22:54 |
| knome | you don't usually look at that list for too long | 22:54 |
| ochosi | imo we should add a tab to the accessibility dialog "appearance" | 22:54 |
| ochosi | and then offer a few shortcuts there | 22:54 |
| knome | add that as a work item for 16.04 | 22:55 |
| knome | not many told they use the a11y features of xubuntu btw | 22:55 |
| ochosi | yeah | 22:55 |
| knome | in a way that's awesome that they told they do | 22:55 |
| knome | because i don't even know that those features are! | 22:56 |
| knome | *what | 22:56 |
| ochosi | yeah | 22:56 |
| bluesabre | are the survey results available? | 22:58 |
| knome | yes and no | 22:58 |
| bluesabre | ok | 22:58 |
| knome | no public announcement is made yet | 22:58 |
| bluesabre | will wait | 22:58 |
| bluesabre | :D | 22:58 |
| knome | but if you want, i can link you to the google doc | 22:59 |
| knome | i'll be doing the analysis for the data some day this week most likely | 22:59 |
| knome | or at latest next week | 22:59 |
| bluesabre | cool | 22:59 |
| ochosi | alrighty folks | 23:00 |
| ochosi | this was a quick visit, but i gotta head to bed now | 23:01 |
| knome | good night :) | 23:01 |
| bluesabre | night ochosi | 23:01 |
| ochosi | night y'all and ttyl ;) | 23:01 |
| slickymaster | nighty night ocx | 23:02 |
| slickymaster | damn autocompletion | 23:02 |
| knome | hah? | 23:02 |
| slickymaster | have a good one ochosi | 23:02 |
| knome | is "ocx" on your autocomplete list? | 23:02 |
| slickymaster | most probably, but then again it just came out | 23:03 |
| knome | :P | 23:03 |
| slickymaster | either that or I'm going nuts | 23:03 |
| bluesabre | slackymister | 23:08 |
| knome | D: | 23:08 |
| bluesabre | :D | 23:08 |
| slickymaster | better that than slimmy bluesabre | 23:08 |
| bluesabre | +1 | 23:08 |
| knome | i have another variant of the nick but that's not suitable for family-friendly channels. | 23:08 |
| slickymaster | and for me I presume :P | 23:09 |
| * drc likes greybird-a11y...as an old fart should :) | 23:15 | |
| drc | no need to use "default" now. | 23:15 |
| drc | nope...-a11y makes windows just a few pixels too tall to quarter the desktop :( | 23:19 |
| drc | The window size I want, I mean. | 23:21 |
| drc | But I still like it :( | 23:24 |
| bluesabre | that is quite nice | 23:26 |
| knome | what again... | 23:27 |
| bluesabre | oh | 23:27 |
| knome | :P | 23:27 |
| bluesabre | he's back | 23:27 |
| knome | :D | 23:27 |
| bluesabre | :p | 23:27 |
| knome | hahah | 23:27 |
| knome | apparently there's something more going wrong | 23:27 |
| bluesabre | a11y theme is nice | 23:27 |
| slickymaster | it was quite a fall | 23:27 |
| knome | my home internet dropped for a few mins a moment ago | 23:27 |
| knome | now it also affected the shell | 23:27 |
| slickymaster | not just your's knome, astraljava's also | 23:28 |
| knome | yes, we share the shell provider | 23:28 |
| slickymaster | oh ok | 23:28 |
| knome | so it does make sense.. | 23:28 |
| slickymaster | ỹeaps | 23:28 |
| knome | krytarik, did this for you while i was waiting to get back to IRC: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/xubuntu-docs/wily/revision/426 | 23:28 |
| knome | you all should have seen how it affected #ubuntu-fi* | 23:30 |
| knome | people are still joining back | 23:30 |
| krytarik | knome: Nice! Looks proper. :) | 23:31 |
| knome | thanks | 23:31 |
| bluesabre | micahg: would you be interested in sponsoring shimmer-themes to wily from my sponsoring ppa? https://launchpad.net/~bluesabre/+archive/ubuntu/sponsoring | 23:37 |
| bluesabre | :) | 23:38 |
| knome | ooh, fancy, sponsoring ppa | 23:38 |
| * bluesabre likes the finer things in life, like ppas | 23:39 | |
| knome | why did i read "bluesabre likes to finger things..." | 23:40 |
| bluesabre | because knome is inappropriate and silly | 23:42 |
| slickymaster | you are incorrigible knome | 23:42 |
| knome | now now, fingering doesn't always mean inappropriate things | 23:42 |
| bluesabre | ... nobody decides to take that any further | 23:43 |
| bluesabre | ... but everyone watches and waits for somebody | 23:44 |
| bluesabre | D: | 23:44 |
| knome | nope. | 23:44 |
| knome | (or maybe in a PM) | 23:44 |
| bluesabre | lol | 23:44 |
| micahg | bluesabre: sure, but a bit later | 23:53 |
| bluesabre | micahg: thanks | 23:58 |
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