[00:46] <bluesabre> Unit193: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c6wjZFXVZU&feature=youtu.be
[00:46] <knome> cool
[01:36] <micahg> back
[01:45] <bluesabre> hey micahg 
[01:45] <micahg> hi bluesabre 
[01:45] <bluesabre> how's it going?
[01:46] <micahg> ok, trying to finish up the reviews quickly
[01:46] <micahg> thanks for the blueman upload
[01:46] <bluesabre> np
[01:47] <bluesabre> been home all day, in front of my computer for 14 hours so far
[01:47] <bluesabre> might be time for a break
[01:47] <micahg> wow, I haven't been that fortunate :)
[01:48] <bluesabre> I'd say I haven't been that fortunate either, considering everything else I could have been doing ;)
[02:05] <knome> micahg, good luck with the stuff and please remember to update the work items once you complete them
[02:05] <knome> be back tomorrow
[02:05] <knome> nighty
[02:52] <bluesabre> night all
[02:53] <yakamo> hello
[02:54] <yakamo> does xubuntu use systemd?
[02:55] <micahg> We're using whichever init system Ubuntu is
[02:55] <micahg> so, for 14.04, no; for 15.10, yes
[02:56]  * micahg didn't realize before that comments on MRs now need to be saved...
[02:57] <yakamo> micahg: thanks thats good to know
[03:13] <yakamo> i thought ubuntu had systemd for a few years
[03:16] <micahg> in the repo, not as default init
[03:16] <yakamo> ah ok
[03:17] <yakamo> well im gona have to try out xubuntu i think
[03:17] <micahg> it has a nice balance between functional and keeping out of the way IMHO
[03:18] <yakamo> im originally a Debian user
[03:18] <yakamo> im used to building up a custom system
[03:18] <yakamo> but im fed up with that and just want to get to work on my projects these days
[03:29] <micahg> two review down, one to go
[03:29] <micahg> s/review/reviews/
[03:29] <SwissBot> micahg meant: "two reviews down, one to go"
[03:30] <yakamo> what are you reviewing
[03:30] <micahg> Merge requests to start building a xubuntu core image
[03:30] <yakamo> ah ok
[03:31] <yakamo> so lots to do then
[03:32] <micahg> yeah, I have a backlog about a mile long ;)
[03:33] <yakamo> result is worth it
[03:34] <micahg> oh, I don't have much with producing Xubuntu itself anymore unfortunately, here and there I help with uploads and review and am an avid user, here's the wiki with project leads listed, they do a lot more than I do for Xubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Contact, there are many others that help as well 
[03:36] <yakamo> every bit counts though
[03:40] <yakamo> dam i should get some sleep its way late
[04:12] <micahg> ok, reviews done
[04:24] <krytarik> micahg: Thanks!
[04:24] <micahg> you're welcome
[05:43] <ochosi> bluesabre: weeeeeird fix for parole dying on quitting, maybe the same is true for gmusicbrowser (which started to do that last cycle)
[05:43] <ochosi> bluesabre: anyway, still good you found it and all
[05:43] <ochosi> huge thumbs up for that
[05:43]  * ochosi is off for work
[08:46] <slickymasterWork> knome, saw your ping in the logs
[08:46] <slickymasterWork> I'll test it tonight
[09:52] <bluesabre> morning all
[09:54] <bluesabre> knome: I have one more request for the tracker (may or may not be related)... can we show historical data for image sizes?
[09:55] <bluesabre> current releases and running dev cycle
[09:55] <bluesabre> unless there is already a place that does that, ofc
[10:01] <knome> bluesabre, where do i get that data?
[10:03] <knome> micahg, thanks! did you have time to peek at the packageset issue?
[10:04] <bluesabre> hey knome 
[10:04] <knome> hey bluesabre 
[10:06] <bluesabre> um, hey knome
[10:06] <knome> :D :D
[10:06] <knome> says he reluctacntly
[10:06] <knome> -c
[10:09]  * bluesabre doesn't know what micahg did
[10:09] <knome> Unit193: do you know what micahg reviewed? :P
[10:10] <knome> Unit193, and what effects that has on our blueprints...
[10:15] <bluesabre> found the mps on the dev blueprint (where I should have looked)
[10:15] <bluesabre> https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/debian-cd/xubuntu-core/+merge/267879
[10:15] <bluesabre> https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/livecd-rootfs/xubuntu-core/+merge/267880
[10:15] <bluesabre> https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/ubuntu-cdimage/xubuntu-core/+merge/268167
[10:16] <bluesabre> sounds like Unit193 only needs to make a few changes
[10:16] <knome> Unit193, do you have a clear idea where to go next with these?
[10:16] <bluesabre> so that's good
[10:18] <bluesabre> knome: as for image data, could potentially parse cdimage... though I can imagine that to be crap
[10:22] <knome> yes, that's the "obvious" way
[10:23] <knome> but of course, if there was a more elegant way...
[10:23] <knome> at least the path is always same
[10:24] <knome> btw, we should poke people to change our target size
[10:24] <knome> bluesabre, would you like to do that on -release?
[10:24] <bluesabre> I can do that
[10:25] <bluesabre> what target size do we want to request?
[10:25] <bluesabre> (we're currently over 1G)
[10:25] <knome> i don't think it matters too much, i was thinking whether 1.5G is an insane target (since there aren't really devices of that size)
[10:25] <knome> if we want to target a specific device, then it could be 2G
[10:26] <knome> but it could just as well be 1.5G...
[10:26] <knome> as long as we don't get the warnings
[10:26] <knome> i mean for the real target size we should likely have a discussion with the team
[10:26] <knome> but i'd rather just dodge the bullets now ASAP
[10:27] <knome> brb
[10:30] <knome> actually, bbiab
[10:50] <knome> ok, back
[11:30] <bluesabre> gotta head to work, bbl
[16:39] <flocculant> didn't notice change in icons on logout dialogue 
[16:40] <flocculant> or rather - didn't before - have now or I'd not have commented :D
[18:39] <knome> hey cyphermox, we'll need an upload for ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu - i've also merged ubuntu-specific stuff there, so they'll want it too :)
[18:46] <cyphermox> yup, I told GunnarHj I'd do an upload today, still mean to
[18:46] <knome> thanks!
[18:46] <cyphermox> just getting stuff together for other things before I can get to the slideshow
[19:02] <cyphermox> knome: apparently harald sitter uploaded it an hour ago.
[19:02] <knome> oh great!
[19:03] <knome> nice guy, good work
[19:26] <flocculant> knome: are we supposed to have ubuntu login icons? 
[19:26] <knome> flocculant, what on earth ARE "ubuntu login icons" ?
[19:27] <flocculant> hang on 
[19:28] <flocculant> http://i.imgur.com/PE73gtQ.png
[19:29] <flocculant> they've turned up recently as far as I can tell 
[19:29] <knome> flocculant, used by default?
[19:29] <flocculant> also don't remember ubuntu mono either
[19:29] <flocculant> seems so for the logout dialogue
[19:29] <knome> aha
[19:30] <knome> well for your question, no, i don't think we are supposed to have them
[19:30] <knome> maybe bluesabre can fix that
[19:30] <knome> O:)
[19:30] <flocculant> http://i.imgur.com/HCs0l3h.png
[19:32] <knome> heh.
[19:32] <knome> that's not the worst thing, but it's not very pretty either..
[19:32] <flocculant> yep
[19:32] <flocculant> dependency of adwaita I think
[19:32] <flocculant> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12316063/
[19:33] <knome> o.O
[19:33] <knome> why is THAT even in our task?
[19:34] <flocculant> oh hang on ... 
[19:34] <flocculant> that might be from me not live :D
[19:34] <knome> no, the task says xubuntu-desktop
[19:34] <knome> but maybe it's because it's gnome default
[19:34] <knome> maybe that is a dependency for something else we want to have
[19:36] <flocculant> adwaita? 
[19:36] <knome> mm.
[19:37] <flocculant> evince-gtk is one
[19:37] <knome> right
[19:37] <flocculant> bit mank - don't much like the 'zz' on hibernate 
[19:38] <flocculant> not that I see that anywhere but in vm :p
[19:38] <knome> heh
[19:44] <flocculant> thought I was seeing things for a minute tbh :)
[19:44] <flocculant> I guess if that's the worse thing we need to worry about atm then we're not doing too badly
[19:45] <knome> we're definitely doing pretty good
[19:45] <flocculant> yep 
[19:45] <knome> another bug fix released thanks to bluesabre and cyphermox 
[19:45] <knome> and with that, another work item too
[19:46] <knome> and since micah reviewed the patches yesterday, one item done and three more can progress
[19:46] <knome> and one of yours might get unblocked soon
[19:46] <flocculant> yep - been watching those discussions ;)
[19:46]  * knome has been updating the blueprints
[19:47] <flocculant> :)
[19:47] <flocculant> should see feh soon? 
[19:47] <knome> next build
[19:48] <flocculant> \o/ 
[19:48] <knome> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1437180/comments/13
[19:50] <knome> btw, did you have anything specific you wanted us to correlate in the survey results?
[19:50] <flocculant> iirc was mostly interested in office/media
[19:50] <knome> they were both around 20-25%
[19:50] <knome> but office was with abiword and gnumeric
[19:51] <flocculant> yes
[19:51] <flocculant> ~25% used defaults? 
[19:51] <flocculant> assuming so
[19:51] <knome> yep
[19:52] <knome> but what i was actually asking
[19:52] <knome> is if you wanted me to correlate that with something
[19:52] <flocculant> /usr/lib/gcc is enormously bigger in wily than trusty 
[19:52] <knome> eg. there was ~70% percent who said they're power users
[19:53] <flocculant> mmm 
[19:53] <flocculant> not sure 
[19:53] <knome> so should we check how much of the *non-power-users* were happy with the default selection?
[19:53] <flocculant> I'd say so - yes
[19:53] <knome> heh, yeah...
[19:53] <knome> so if you have other similar correlations you'd like to see - just tell me and i'll dig that information up
[19:53] <flocculant> as long as our baseline is what I assume - power user will go meh and find/install what they want 
[19:54] <knome> yep
[19:54] <flocculant> I think to my mind - the correlations we should work from as a base are the non-power user
[19:54] <knome> so get all results with only non-power-users?
[19:54] <flocculant> 33MB in trusty, 410 in wily :p
[19:55] <knome> also, what about the small amount that told others maintain their computer?
[19:55] <knome> should we also leave them out?
[19:55] <flocculant> I would 
[19:55] <knome> ok
[19:55] <flocculant> I would assume that 'they' are power users
[19:55] <flocculant> at least more powered up than those repsonding :)
[19:58] <flocculant> not that I've any idea what we'd do if we decided something about gmb 
[19:58] <knome> heh
[19:59] <knome> media is more than just gmb though
[20:00] <flocculant> of course
[20:01] <flocculant> should I report the icon issue so there's something as a record? 
[20:02] <knome> sure
[20:02] <flocculant> I'll do it from the daily - no fighting with apport and ppa's then :p
[20:03] <knome> heh
[20:03] <flocculant> mmm - what package shall I report it against? 
[20:03] <knome> no idea...
[20:03] <knome> are they used after installing as well?
[20:03] <knome> or just at installation?
[20:04] <flocculant> not sure - I'll install it 
[20:04] <knome> :)
[20:04] <knome> if only at installation, then probably ubiquity
[20:04] <flocculant> mostly just been checking the image works lately
[20:06] <flocculant> that said I do see the same on my machine too 
[20:06] <flocculant> but that's had all sorts done and installed on it 
[20:14] <flocculant> knome: nope - installed as well 
[20:15] <knome> mhm
[20:15] <knome> sounds like packaging
[20:15] <knome> or sth like that
[20:15] <knome> xubuntu-artwork? :P
[20:15] <flocculant> ok 
[20:16] <flocculant> drums fingers waiting for launchpad ... 
[20:22] <flocculant> bug 1493547
[20:31] <flocculant> bluesabre: ^^ 
[20:31] <flocculant> I shall see what gets said in the morning 
[20:31] <flocculant> night 
[20:33] <krytarik> flocculant: That it's actually elementary Xfce. :D
[20:34] <krytarik> Night though.
[21:46] <knome> slickymaster, if you link to the PDFs from each page, then you can't really do the paragraph
[21:47] <slickymaster> can't a sort of a header, or footer, note be added to the xml knome?
[21:47] <knome> sure, we can do the links in the header or footer, but there are visual issues with that
[21:48] <knome> in the header, it wouldn't look very good with a long text
[21:48] <knome> and in the footer area we already have the navigation icons
[21:48] <knome> would it appear before or after that?
[21:48] <knome> and in the footer, i think it's relatively hidden...
[21:49] <knome> we don't even know how many people would rather use a PDF than the html version
[21:50] <slickymaster> yeah, I'm not taking the aesthetics aspect of the solution in consideration
[21:51] <slickymaster> the footer option is to forget, due to the navigation icons
[21:51] <knome> also, if people link to a specific section to the docs, why couldn't the mention there is a PDF version available as well?
[21:52] <knome> when i point people to the docs, i mention they are also available from the menu
[21:52] <knome> and if they go to the menu and see the docs, they will end up on the front page with the PDF mention
[21:53] <knome> or in other words, are we really overthinking the possibility that somebody might "miss out" on the PDF?
[21:54] <slickymaster> no the idea was to give people the chance of getting 'partial' PDFs id wanted
[21:54] <knome> no, you can't get a partial PDF
[21:54] <knome> it would always be the full PDF
[21:54] <knome> unless we started exporting per-chapter PDF's but ugh, what a mess
[21:54] <slickymaster> hmm, in that case I misunderstood it
[21:55] <slickymaster> being that the case, there's no need to discuss it
[21:55] <knome> krytarik, ha! i win!
[21:56] <slickymaster> lol
[21:57] <ochosi> late evening all
[21:57] <knome> hello ochosi
[21:57] <ochosi> flocculant: yeah, those themes really shouldn't be installed. we don't need them at all
[21:57] <slickymaster> hi ochosi 
[21:57] <knome> ochosi, has the baby sang "i dress up in women's clothing, like my dear pa-pa" yet?
[21:58] <knome> or - have you sang that to the baby :P
[21:58] <knome> sung?
[21:59] <knome> whateva
[22:00] <ochosi> :)
[22:00] <ochosi> not yet
[22:01] <knome> aha! that does imply that you will sing it together
[22:01] <knome> ...and that implies you are dressing up in women's clothing
[22:02] <ochosi> ofc
[22:03] <knome> ok, now that this discussion is publicly logged and archived, let's move on...
[22:03] <ochosi> ineed
[22:03] <ochosi> indeed
[22:03] <knome> what do youneed?
[22:04] <ochosi> i like how the tracker looks
[22:04] <ochosi> good progress
[22:04] <knome> yep
[22:04] <knome> totally
[22:04] <knome> now if only Unit193 got his act together and did the changes micahg asked in his reviews
[22:04] <ochosi> :>
[22:05] <ochosi> yeah, where's that one hiding i wonder...
[22:05] <knome> then bluesabre could help Unit193 with the sponsoring stuff and then they could ask flocculant to test the core ISO
[22:05] <knome> and maybe krytarik could help with updating his bits and also prod slickymaster to help with testing
[22:05] <knome> so pleia2 could write a blog article about it
[22:06] <ochosi> nice dependency chain
[22:06] <slickymaster> btw knome we still have the FAQ content to think about
[22:06] <ochosi> btw, new greybird pull request
[22:06] <knome> ochosi, and nice pinging! :P
[22:06] <ochosi> hehe
[22:06] <knome> slickymaster, yeah...
[22:07] <bluesabre> evening all
[22:07]  * knome is the summoner
[22:07] <slickymaster> hey bluesabre 
[22:08] <ochosi> knome: please check that one out, it looks very promising
[22:08] <ochosi> https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/pull/104
[22:08]  * knome checks
[22:10] <ochosi> if you can, pls test
[22:10] <ochosi> it's fairly easy, just clone to $somedir, then create ~/.themes/Greybird-a11y and ln -s $somedir/xfwm4 to Greybird-a11y
[22:10] <knome> i'll put that on my "mental" list for later this week
[22:10] <ochosi> oh
[22:11] <ochosi> i'll likely merge it today
[22:11] <knome> haha
[22:11] <knome> ok
[22:11] <ochosi> i don't have many free evenings/hours
[22:11] <ochosi> so i have to be fairly efficient if i wanna get that last workitem done
[22:11] <knome> it looks fine to me in the github diff
[22:11] <ochosi> in context: http://i.imgur.com/PFFc2vR.png
[22:12] <knome> yep
[22:12] <micahg> knome: no, not yet, that's a little more complicated I htink
[22:13] <knome> micahg, what are you referring to?
[22:13] <micahg> packageset issue
[22:13] <knome> ok
[22:14] <ochosi> well frankly we should contact whoever pulled in orion to kubuntu and ask them to "return" it to us
[22:14] <ochosi> or we can also kick it out of shimmer themes
[22:14] <ochosi> it's not maintained anymore (by us, or at all, afaik
[22:15] <ochosi> so there are some easy solutions
[22:16] <knome> what was the package through which it got pulled to kubuntu again?
[22:16] <knome> or the chain
[22:17] <micahg> that's not it, the logic around kubuntu is still special cased, where I think it maybe shouldn't be anymore, I still need to dig into it
[22:18] <ochosi> right, but can't we just ask nicely?
[22:18] <ochosi> i mean there must be a responsible person
[22:18] <knome> i could ask a kubuntu person if i had the details...
[22:19] <ochosi> bluesabre: would you be ok with adding another xfwm4 theme to the greybird build? we would need Greybird-a11y to show up as a separate xfwm4 theme like Greybird_compact
[22:19] <knome> that would be nice of us, now that we actually have such
[22:20] <bluesabre> ochosi: that's easy to do
[22:21] <bluesabre> as long as you give me the new theme before thursday ;)
[22:21] <knome> bluesabre, notice that you might need sponsoring :P
[22:22] <ochosi> bluesabre: i can finalize this now
[22:22] <knome> yay
[22:22] <bluesabre> knome: ah, good point
[22:22] <bluesabre> so today would be good
[22:22] <bluesabre> then micahg might be able to sponsor for me soon
[22:25] <bluesabre> ochosi: the upstream logout icon caught flocculant off guard since its orange: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-artwork/+bug/1493547
[22:25] <ochosi> hehe
[22:25] <ochosi> it's a nice one, i personally like it
[22:25] <ochosi> but the restart one looks a bit dusty next to it
[22:25] <ochosi> i'll probably have to redo that one for 16.04
[22:28] <ochosi> bluesabre: would i create much work for you if i renamed the xfwm4_compact folder to xfwm4-compact?
[22:29] <ochosi> no idea why i ever used an underscore there
[22:29] <bluesabre> ochosi: go ahead
[22:29] <ochosi> k, thanks
[22:29] <knome> ochosi, with all of your dashitis, good variety...
[22:31] <ochosi> hey, i love my dash-itis
[22:35] <ochosi> bluesabre: ok, it's all merged
[22:35] <ochosi> wanna take a brief look before i tag a new release?
[22:35] <bluesabre> ochosi: checking it
[22:35] <ochosi> ty
[22:36] <bluesabre> ochosi: yeah, that should be fine
[22:37] <bluesabre> just gotta update wily and daily packaging
[22:37] <ochosi> i was able to close the currently oldest greybird issue \o/
[22:37] <ochosi> (single px borders are unusable for resizing)
[22:38] <bluesabre> woot
[22:38] <ochosi> btw, tagging elementary-xfce was a bit superfluous unless we change our policy there to always tag a new release when we upload
[22:39] <ochosi> so far we basically just pushed snapshots of it
[22:39] <ochosi> and i released independently
[22:39] <ochosi> but yeah, it's a sort of constant rolling release thingy
[22:40] <bluesabre> ochosi: you said to tag a new release
[22:40] <ochosi> oh, i meant of xubuntu-artwork :>
[22:41] <ochosi> but nvm, i really have no idea when it would be sane to tag a new icon theme release
[22:42] <bluesabre> :D
[22:42] <bluesabre> +icon, +release number
[22:42] <bluesabre> :D
[22:42] <ochosi> ;)
[22:44] <ochosi> bluesabre: ok, so tagging greybird now...
[22:44] <ochosi> unless you needed anything else there
[22:47] <bluesabre> ochosi: go ahead
[22:48] <ochosi> there you go: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/releases/tag/v1.6.2
[22:48] <bluesabre> woot
[22:49] <ochosi> knome: and another workitem done
[22:49] <ochosi> and yay, artwork is the first blueprint to be totally done
[22:49] <knome> :)
[22:49] <knome> it's often been like that
[22:49] <ochosi> ofc
[22:50] <ochosi> we're the most efficient team ;
[22:50] <ochosi> )
[22:50]  * knome high fives ochosi 
[22:50]  * ochosi high fives back
[22:50] <knome> oops, i missed
[22:50] <knome> hope that didn't hurt your nose too much
[22:50] <knome> the silliest thing is when high fives and "gang greetings" go wrong
[22:51] <knome> it looks so silly and embarrassing at the same time
[22:51] <bluesabre> ochosi: so, what do you want the theme to be called?
[22:51] <bluesabre> greybird-a11y?
[22:51] <knome> bluesabre, seans-secret-lab
[22:51] <bluesabre> knome: OK
[22:51] <ochosi> hmm
[22:51] <ochosi> i thought we would call it that
[22:51] <ochosi> but if you have a friendlier name in mind, i don't mind
[22:51] <knome> greybird-accessibility isn't bad either
[22:51] <ochosi> yeah
[22:52] <ochosi> a11y is not a very accessible shorthand
[22:52] <bluesabre> grostrich?
[22:52] <knome> because really, is it accessible to say "a11y"
[22:52] <knome> heh, yes
[22:52] <knome> gal-blatter-os
[22:52] <ochosi> bluesabre: i like that :D
[22:53] <ochosi> but let's go with Greybird-accessiblity ;)
[22:53] <knome> -blity?!
[22:53] <knome> noess
[22:53] <bluesabre> a11y might be better
[22:53] <bluesabre> r not
[22:54]  * bluesabre doesn't know
[22:54] <ochosi> ok ok, accessibility
[22:54] <bluesabre> accessibility it is
[22:54] <ochosi> yeah, it's longer but more readable
[22:54] <bluesabre> assessability
[22:54] <knome> you don't usually look at that list for too long
[22:54] <ochosi> imo we should add a tab to the accessibility dialog "appearance"
[22:54] <ochosi> and then offer a few shortcuts there
[22:55] <knome> add that as a work item for 16.04
[22:55] <knome> not many told they use the a11y features of xubuntu btw
[22:55] <ochosi> yeah
[22:55] <knome> in a way that's awesome that they told they do
[22:56] <knome> because i don't even know that those features are!
[22:56] <knome> *what
[22:56] <ochosi> yeah
[22:58] <bluesabre> are the survey results available?
[22:58] <knome> yes and no
[22:58] <bluesabre> ok
[22:58] <knome> no public announcement is made yet
[22:58] <bluesabre> will wait
[22:58] <bluesabre> :D
[22:59] <knome> but if you want, i can link you to the google doc
[22:59] <knome> i'll be doing the analysis for the data some day this week most likely
[22:59] <knome> or at latest next week
[22:59] <bluesabre> cool
[23:00] <ochosi> alrighty folks
[23:01] <ochosi> this was a quick visit, but i gotta head to bed now
[23:01] <knome> good night :)
[23:01] <bluesabre> night ochosi 
[23:01] <ochosi> night y'all and ttyl ;)
[23:02] <slickymaster> nighty night ocx
[23:02] <slickymaster> damn autocompletion
[23:02] <knome> hah?
[23:02] <slickymaster> have a good one ochosi 
[23:02] <knome> is "ocx" on your autocomplete list?
[23:03] <slickymaster> most probably, but then again it just came out
[23:03] <knome> :P
[23:03] <slickymaster> either that or I'm going nuts
[23:08] <bluesabre> slackymister
[23:08] <knome> D:
[23:08] <bluesabre> :D
[23:08] <slickymaster> better that than slimmy bluesabre 
[23:08] <bluesabre> +1
[23:08] <knome> i have another variant of the nick but that's not suitable for family-friendly channels.
[23:09] <slickymaster> and for me I presume :P
[23:15]  * drc likes greybird-a11y...as an old fart should :)
[23:15] <drc> no need to use "default" now.
[23:19] <drc> nope...-a11y makes windows just a few pixels too tall to quarter the desktop :(
[23:21] <drc> The window size I want, I mean.  
[23:24] <drc> But I still like it :(
[23:26] <bluesabre> that is quite nice
[23:27] <knome> what again...
[23:27] <bluesabre> oh
[23:27] <knome> :P
[23:27] <bluesabre> he's back
[23:27] <knome> :D
[23:27] <bluesabre> :p
[23:27] <knome> hahah
[23:27] <knome> apparently there's something more going wrong
[23:27] <bluesabre> a11y theme is nice
[23:27] <slickymaster> it was quite a fall
[23:27] <knome> my home internet dropped for a few mins a moment ago
[23:27] <knome> now it also affected the shell
[23:28] <slickymaster> not just your's knome, astraljava's also
[23:28] <knome> yes, we share the shell provider
[23:28] <slickymaster> oh ok
[23:28] <knome> so it does make sense..
[23:28] <slickymaster> ỹeaps
[23:28] <knome> krytarik, did this for you while i was waiting to get back to IRC: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/xubuntu-docs/wily/revision/426
[23:30] <knome> you all should have seen how it affected #ubuntu-fi*
[23:30] <knome> people are still joining back
[23:31] <krytarik> knome: Nice! Looks proper. :)
[23:31] <knome> thanks
[23:37] <bluesabre> micahg: would you be interested in sponsoring shimmer-themes to wily from my sponsoring ppa? https://launchpad.net/~bluesabre/+archive/ubuntu/sponsoring
[23:38] <bluesabre> :)
[23:38] <knome> ooh, fancy, sponsoring ppa
[23:39]  * bluesabre likes the finer things in life, like ppas
[23:40] <knome> why did i read "bluesabre likes to finger things..."
[23:42] <bluesabre> because knome is inappropriate and silly
[23:42] <slickymaster> you are incorrigible knome 
[23:42] <knome> now now, fingering doesn't always mean inappropriate things
[23:43] <bluesabre> ... nobody decides to take that any further
[23:44] <bluesabre> ... but everyone watches and waits for somebody
[23:44] <bluesabre> D:
[23:44] <knome> nope.
[23:44] <knome> (or maybe in a PM)
[23:44] <bluesabre> lol
[23:53] <micahg> bluesabre: sure, but a bit later
[23:58] <bluesabre> micahg: thanks