[00:32] <danielle31> every so often my computer shuts down without warning. how can I see what event triggered the last shutdown event?
[00:43] <TJ-> if it is without warning, suspect power or thermal issues causing the CPU to halt without warning
[00:48] <danielle31> TJ: That was my first thought. sensors never seems to read higher than 74 degrees. I cant access the sensor data from the BIOS so theres a delay of a few seconds between starting the computer and running the command
[00:49] <danielle31> TJ, I had a mac once that had thermal issues. it would power off unexpectedly, was boiling hot to touch, and would refuse to turn on again until it was on a cooler surface..
[00:49] <danielle31> Apparently the max temp (according to sensors command) is 104 degrees
[01:57] <celelestino> #kubuntu-es
[02:06] <celelestino> benas alguien me puede ayudar que me puesto hace poco kunbuntu en un poratil no puedo instalar nada y aparte me va muy lento os gradeceria de gran cotrazon me ayuden  gracias
[02:09] <manuntero> por aqui es dificil quwe te ayuden
[02:10] <manuntero> entra mas bien en http://www.kubuntu-es.org/
[02:13] <celelestino> gracias de todos modos
[02:15] <manuntero> alli esta toda la informacion que necesitas y bienvenido a kubuntu
[03:46] <newkdeuser> not bad.  but I aint got audio.  Runing as live user to test
[04:18] <newuser> can anyone tell me if the kubuntu download works as a live cd?
[04:20] <newuser> and if so, do I need to download any extra files?
[04:21] <newkdeuser> working here
[04:21] <newkdeuser> I just loaded it up
[04:21] <newkdeuser> on usb stick
[04:22] <newuser> do you know if it allows root user access in the terminal on a live disk?
[04:22] <newkdeuser> lemme chk
[04:24] <newkdeuser> gotta use sudo
[04:24] <newkdeuser> wish I could get audio working
[04:25] <newuser> do you know if the commands are similar to powershell?
[04:25] <newkdeuser> ps is very different imho
[04:26] <newkdeuser> having said that, bash is easier
[04:26] <newkdeuser> but that's just my opinion
[04:26] <newkdeuser> I'm biased
[04:26] <newuser> does bash have a help index like ps?
[04:26] <newkdeuser> man pages
[04:26] <newkdeuser> just type man command
[04:27] <newuser> ok
[04:27] <newkdeuser> welp, back to testing.  c u laterz
[04:27] <newuser> thanks
[04:30] <TheBlackKnight> Hi
[06:00] <sudersan> hi
[06:01] <Osoolo> hi what is this ?
[06:02] <Osoolo> anyone here
[06:03] <Osoolo> hello?
[06:03] <Osoolo> ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzz
[06:19] <hateball> Osoolo: Do you have a question?
[07:26] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:31] <noureddine> bonjour
[09:44] <noureddine> hi
[09:59] <Newww> Hello, please tell me whether it is possible to move between icons in the system tray, for example swap icon Connection Manager and Sound Manager icon in the plasma 5?
[10:13] <lordievader> Hmm, doesn't seem possible here (Gentoo Plasma 5.4)
[10:16] <Newww> lordievader : Too bad :(
[10:55] <Kublov> hello
[10:56] <Kublov> i have a question about usb sticks can someone help me?
[10:56] <Kublov> is here anybody?
[10:57] <MoonUnit`> best to just ask, if any one can help they might do.
[10:59] <Kublov> just wamted to see if somebody is online ;) first time on such a web chat
[11:00] <Kublov> my question is: i have an usb stick. on the kubuntu it shows me that it has a capacity of 8,4gb and on windows it showing me 7,8gb why?
[11:02] <hateball> Kublov: Gibibyte vs Gigabyte I am guessing
[11:03] <Kublov> i dont understand
[11:04] <Newww> Kublov : you from ru?
[11:04] <Kublov> no. why?
[11:05] <Newww> Kublov : I thought you are from Russia wanted to explain to you in their native language :)
[11:05] <hateball> Kublov: See this converter http://wintelguy.com/gb2gib.html
[11:05] <hateball> Kublov: The OS's use different units to represent the disk space
[11:09] <Kublov> oh i tried it but it shows me more gb in this calculater
[11:15] <hateball> Kublov: Really? 8.4GB gives 7.8 GiB far as I can tell
[11:21] <smev81> how should I get VLC 2.2 . With backports, with some ppa? How would you approach?
[11:22] <soee> smev81: what Kubuntu Version are you using ?
[11:22] <smev81> LTS (14.04?)
[11:23] <soee> ah i see than indeed you have 2.1.6 (https://launchpad.net/vlc)
[11:24] <soee> i think you can try to download deb file from launchpad with 2.2 but i'm mot sure if it wont have any dependency problems
[11:24] <soee> you can try daily-table ppa from vlc team also: https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/ubuntu/stable-daily
[11:24] <soee> *daily-stable
[11:28] <smev81> This is one interesting option. I am not sure, since it sayst it does do major version updates. I will try it out. Thanks
[11:29] <Kublov> ty hateball
[11:30] <MoonUnit`> that's the annoying part about LTS, it's only security updates, you end up having to add potentially risky 3rd party ppa's to upgrade apps to newer versions.
[11:32] <soee> vlc ppa isn'y risky imo :)
[11:32] <MoonUnit`> didn't say it was :)
[11:32] <soee> ;]
[11:33] <smev81> It seems difficult to balance stability and latest features. I was using arch until some time, but the transition to plasma5 was a pain for me.
[11:35] <smev81> btw after adding stable-daily i can not get to vlc2.2 with apt-get update/upgrade
[11:35] <soee> well i'm always on latest Kubuntu version and Vivid is pretty stable i woudl say
[11:35] <soee> smev81: what does the 'apt-cache policy vlc' says ?
[11:37] <MoonUnit`> from the vlc stable ppa page last update was 2.1.4 8 months ago for trusty
[11:37] <smev81> installed and candidate are same (2.1.6). in the table are then listed older versions
[11:38] <soee> ah so there are no nwer builds for trusty probably
[11:38] <MoonUnit`> vlc 3.0 is available in master-daily. https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/ubuntu/master-daily?field.series_filter=trusty
[11:39] <MoonUnit`> but you'll get dev builds if you use it
[11:40] <smev81> The dependendcies might hurt. I'll look into them. Thank you
[11:40] <smev81> Not many dependencies if i see right. I'll try.
[11:44] <smev81> no installation candidates for some dependencies... Maybe LTS is too "old" for Vlc 3
[11:49] <MoonUnit`> shame getdeb doesn't have vlc
[12:00] <smev81> I will try to compile or install a rolling release in a virtual environment and do vlc seamless. Oh how i love IT
[12:15] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[13:24] <nedim> hello
[13:25] <nedim> anyone know how to solve baloo_file tkaing 100& of the CPU problem?
[13:25] <nedim> if I disable it then my dolphin search is not working
[13:25] <nedim> bit like this it takes too much resources
[13:30] <hateball> nedim: has this just recently started being a problem?
[13:31] <nedim> it happened once before, then I disabled it, relaized it is needed for search option, enabled it
[13:31] <hateball> I get this problem sometimes when xsession-errors grows uncontrollably
[13:31] <hateball> you can try "balooctl disable" and then enable it again
[13:32] <nedim> yes, but dont want to do it every time since after I enable it it takes ages to index everything
[13:32] <hateball> I think there is some way to see where it chokes also, so you can exclude that from searching
[13:32] <hateball> if it is say a log file
[13:34] <hateball> nedim: this has some info https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332421
[13:34] <nedim> where is the log file placed?
[13:35] <hateball> The one I spoke of is ~/.xsession-errors but you may have something else it chokes on
[13:38] <nedim> hmm baloo_file_extractor does not show any file
[13:38] <nedim> I only get 4176  0.0  0.0  10964  2416 pts/1    S+   15:35   0:00 grep --color=auto baloo_file_extractor
[13:43] <hateball> nedim: then it doesnt look like it is taking 100% any longer?
[13:47] <nedim> it takes still
[13:47] <nedim> RAM is ok, only CPU is affected
[13:47] <nedim> checked xsession-errors, it is not updated
[13:48] <nedim> baloo-file is on the top when I run the top
[13:48] <smev81> Tried to get latest vlc. This helped: https://launchpad.net/~mc3man/+archive/ubuntu/trusty-media
[13:49] <nedim> it is compiting with plasmashell --shut-up whatever that is
[13:54] <hateball> nedim: do you see anything if you check with lsof ?
[13:54] <hateball> something like "lsof |grep baloo_file"
[13:58] <Xenoth> I'm a little late to the party here about Baloo file, but if I remember correctly, KDE had a feature like "desktop search" that could be disabled. That really decreased my system's load.
[13:59] <Xenoth> Ah, here's the article I used (It's for 4.4.2, but the steps were more or less the same) http://www.freetechie.com/blog/disable-nepomuk-desktop-search-on-kde-4-4-2-kubuntu-lucid-10-04/
[14:01] <nedim> lsof | gep baloo_file gives this
[14:01] <nedim> baloo_fil  1286                  nedim  txt       REG                8,1     332952   22282359 /usr/bin/baloo_file
[14:01] <nedim> QXcbEvent  1286  1291            nedim  txt       REG                8,1     332952   22282359 /usr/bin/baloo_file
[14:02] <nedim> @Xenoth yea but then I dont have the search in the Dolphin
[14:04] <soee> do you have any big files on disc ?
[14:05] <nedim> no
[14:17] <nedim> I will just disable the baloo and that is it
[14:17] <nedim> easiest solution
[14:21] <akik> the baloo developer once said that users shouldn't need to know about the file indexer :P
[14:23] <BluesKaj> usually baloos file indexer onlyy needs to run for a minute or 2 on reboot after it's initial inex run.
[14:23] <BluesKaj> index run\
[14:24] <nedim> baloo_file is indexer or it is binary related to something else
[14:27] <akik> "The user should not need to know about the project called “Baloo”, and indexing is an internal implementation detail in order to make searches faster. It doesn’t need to be broadcasted." http://vhanda.in/blog/2014/04/desktop-search-configuration/
[14:27] <BluesKaj> afaiok baloo uses 3 functions, index, search and sync
[14:29] <BluesKaj> akik, that sounds like that dev used to work for MS :-)
[14:38] <akik> i thought that was pretty weird statement
[14:38] <akik> since i too ran into the 100% cpu usage
[14:39] <nedim> is there a way to stop it temporary
[14:40] <nedim> I mean baloo_file stuff
[14:40] <nedim> or you do that with disabling it?
[14:40] <akik> nedim: you could probable remove the exec permissions
[14:41] <akik> but i disabled it completely. i usually don't need to search my files
[14:42] <BluesKaj> there are several methods to find files , for etcapps search muon , locate and find in the konsole
[15:53] <m_tadeu> hi....anyone knows why I can't find temperature indicators for the processor in ksysguard?
[15:57] <BluesKaj> m_tadeu, probly because it isn't available by default. Try psensors
[16:39] <m_tadeu> BluesKaj: didn't help
[16:46] <m_tadeu> actualy, there's also no fan speed either
[16:48] <BluesKaj> m_tadeu, there are various sensor tools in the package manager, check them out
[17:19]  * genii sips
[17:20] <Finetundar> whatcha drinking there
[17:20] <lordievader> Knowing genii, coffee. And more coffee.
[17:24] <genii> Yes, coffee :D
[18:07] <Guest42268> heloo :D
[18:08] <soee> hiho Guest42268
[18:08] <Guest42268> can you tell me what to install, what is better, Ubuntu or Kubuntu, I'm switching from windows 7 to Linux? :)
[18:10] <soee> Guest42268: well Kubuntu is Ubuntu but with different DE
[18:10] <soee> Ubunu uses Unity while Kubuntu KDE/Plasma 5
[18:11] <soee> i think you will be more familiar with Kubuntu when switching from Windows
[18:11] <Guest42268> yeap, but witch is better and functional? I'm at Kubuntu prewiev now, and can't freking decide =-.-
[18:11] <akik> kde is a good choice
[18:12] <soee> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQZyxE8l5Vo
[18:12] <Guest42268> i like it, but so confusing with apps, and terminal, i install google chrome but cannot find it from where to run it xD
[18:12] <BluesKaj> Guest42268, what and how do you use your pc, ? at , or at work or both?
[18:13] <akik> applications/internet
[18:13] <BluesKaj> at home or at work or both, rather
[18:13] <Guest42268> at home, i use it for internet, gaming, etc
[18:13] <Guest42268> but would like to use it for work, video and audio edditing
[18:14] <Guest42268> becouse i dont wanna switch to windows 10 becouse Microsoft will make virtual me in their databases -.-
[18:14] <soee> Guest42268: i just don't like Unity and i love Plasma 5, i would recommend Kubuntu
[18:15] <Guest42268> well i was in preview mode for Ubuntu too, and i didnt liked so much Unity too, but feels like interesting, idk  xD
[18:15] <Guest42268> so in functionallity is rather the same
[18:16] <BluesKaj> then kde will be more familiar and more flexible than unity IMO
[18:18] <Guest42268> and do i need to use kosole to update to plasma 5.4 or is there another way, i'm bit confused with it xD
[18:21] <soee> Plasma 5.4 is available only in Kubutnu 15.10
[18:21] <soee> the development verion
[18:21] <soee> it will be backported to Kubutnun 15.04, than you can update through backports pp
[18:21] <genii> The event horizon
[18:21] <soee> *ppa
[18:23] <soee> Guest42268: in Plasma 5.4 you have for example 3 different launchers, 1. similar to windows menu, 2. simpler menu (kickoff) and dashboard
[18:23] <soee> so you can use what you like, you can also use Krunner to start apps if you want :)
[18:25] <Guest42268> and how to download 15.10, or i cant?
[18:26] <Guest42268> i have now plasma 5.2.2
[18:26] <soee> Guest42268: you can download it but it is Beta
[18:27] <soee> Guest42268: if you have Plasma 5.2 than you are on Vivid (15.04) and you can update to Plasm 5.3
[18:27] <soee> just add pacports ppa
[18:27] <soee> *backports
[18:27] <soee> Guest42268: do you have access to Terminal ?
[18:28] <Guest42268> yes
[18:28] <soee> than type: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[18:28] <soee> than: sudo apt update
[18:28] <soee> than: sudo apt full-upgrade
[18:29] <soee> this will add this repository: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[18:29] <soee> that contains Plasma 5.3.2 packages
[18:30] <soee> if you want to try Beta version of 15.10, you can grap iso here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/wily/beta-1/
[18:30] <Guest42268> i typed something and it downloaded and now unpacking smthing, should i wait, or it is that?
[18:32] <Guest42268> Unpacking kde-config-touchpad (4:5.4.1+git20150908.2336+15.04-0) over (4:5.1.95-0ubuntu3) ...
[18:32] <Guest42268> Preparing to unpack .../plasma-desktop-data_4%3a5.4.1+git20150908.2336+15.04-0_all.deb ...
[18:32] <Guest42268> Unpacking plasma-desktop-data (4:5.4.1+git20150908.2336+15.04-0) over (4:5.2.2-0ubuntu4) ...
[18:32] <Guest42268> Preparing to unpack .../plasma-desktop_4%3a5.4.1+git20150908.2336+15.04-0_amd64.deb ...
[18:32] <Guest42268> Unpacking plasma-desktop (4:5.4.1+git20150908.2336+15.04-0) over (4:5.2.2-0ubuntu4) ...
[18:32] <Guest42268> like this, sry for spam
[18:32] <akik> is apt the new apt-get ?
[18:32] <BluesKaj> yeah sort of
[18:32] <Guest42268> hmm, i found it on some site, but i think it is that command
[18:33] <BluesKaj> apt install for example shows a progreesbar when apps are instaliing
[18:33] <soee> Guest42268: you are using some *-ci ppa
[18:33] <soee> that might contain unstable packages version
[18:34] <Guest42268> hmm :S
[18:38] <Guest42268> one more q, is 15.10 stable or should i go for 15
[18:38] <Guest42268> 15.04?
[18:42] <soee> Guest42268: 15.10 is development version so there might be problems with it, though i'm using it on 2 machines
[18:50] <Guest42268> do 15.10 it iz xD
[18:51] <Guest42268> tnx for the help ^6
[19:39] <xela2244> hello, i need help i can't adjust brightness, and after i suspend computer there is black screen on wake up
[19:39] <xela2244> i'm using kubuntu 15.04
[20:04] <xela2244> hi, when i go on battery widget and check for brightness it says: no screen or keyboard brightness controls available
[20:04] <xela2244> i'm using kubuntu 15.04, please help
[20:07] <livecdtester> hi
[20:07] <noureddine> hi
[20:07] <livecdtester> just loaded up a live cd and it's looking pretty good
[20:08] <livecdtester> I'm new to kde
[20:08] <xela2244> anyone having a problem similar to mine?
[20:09] <soee> xela2244: on laptop ?
[20:09] <soee> hi, livecdtester
[20:09] <livecdtester> I'm on dell xps 13
[20:09] <xela2244> yes
[20:09] <xela2244> hp
[20:10] <soee> well all works fine on my dell
[20:10] <livecdtester> same here3
[20:10] <livecdtester> so far so good
[20:12] <livecdtester> here's a stupid question from a newb (me)
[20:12] <livecdtester> If I don't use IM, how do I remove it from the system tray??
[20:12] <soee> livecdtester: open systray settings and set it to be hidden
[20:13] <livecdtester> does that mean it's still running ?
[20:17] <livecdtester> okay coolio, I have hidden them.  thx soee
[20:17] <soee> enjoy :)
[20:18] <soee> if you are not using it you can uninstall package: kde-telepathy
[20:19] <livecdtester> oooo, coolio.  Less attack surface.  :)  thx
[23:03] <livecdtester> I'm enjoying kubuntu fwiw  :)
[23:27] <keithzg> Are there any armhf images for Wily yet? ...or, hmm, any even for Vivid either?
[23:29] <keithzg> I *would* just do a minimal install of Vivid and then work from there, but of course ubuntu-minimal stopped existing many releases ago now. I guess ARM is still too much of a mess to have a single image with a single kernel?
[23:30] <keithzg> Although Debian has one. Hmm.
[23:57] <svend-ev> Good morning