[00:35] <knome> time to hit the bed
[00:35] <knome> nighty!
[00:36] <slickymaster> bighty night knome 
[01:52] <bluesabre> yay, all bugs fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfpanel-switch
[01:52] <bluesabre> now to add some sample layouts
[02:47] <bluesabre> added some sample layouts to https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xfpanel-switch-dev/xfpanel-switch/trunk/revision/25
[02:47] <bluesabre> if somebody wants to test it out by tomorrow evening, that'd be awesome ;)
[02:48] <bluesabre> bzr branch lp:xfpanel-switch; cd xfpanel-switch; ./configure; make; sudo make install; xfpanel-switch
[02:57] <jcjordyn120> hello
[02:58] <drc> world
[02:59] <jcjordyn120> i have a idea on the ubiquitty installer, I would like to be able to specify multible mount points on the custom partition screen
[03:02] <bluesabre> jcjordyn120: we don't maintain ubiquity, you'll want to reach out on #ubuntu-devel
[03:02] <drc> IIRC, the installer is solely a Ubuntu project, you'd probably do better on #ubuntu-installer.
[03:02] <bluesabre> even better ^
[03:02] <jcjordyn120> oh okay
[06:36] <flocculant> morning 
[06:37] <flocculant> bluesabre: yes - the orange logout completely caught me offguard ... swiftly followed by the zz's on the hibernate one :p
[06:40] <flocculant> bluesabre: as soon as I see xfpanel change I'll check it
[08:54] <knome> slickymasterWork, we should take it here...
[08:54] <knome> so,
[08:54] <knome> splitting the package has its merits
[08:54] <knome> but it's not worth it
[08:54] <slickymasterWork> yeah, you're right about -devel :P
[08:54] <knome> because then flavors would need to track changes to the core
[08:55] <knome> well actually
[08:55] <knome> depends how it's built...
[08:55] <knome> it's over the top of my head anyway how that would work with one upstream
[08:56] <slickymasterWork> the way I see it, there are no obvious and worthy gains in splitting 
[08:56] <knome> nope
[08:57] <knome> there is that one thing:
[08:57] <knome> each flavor could have upload rights to their own package
[08:57] <knome> but that would just mean we'd need even more updates per cycle
[08:57] <slickymasterWork> yes
[08:58] <knome> since there even isn't one uploader per flavor, that'd just mean more sponsored uploads as well
[09:00] <slickymasterWork> it's odd though, how just someone of the -docs team bother to answer the email
[09:00] <slickymasterWork> no news from any of the flavors
[09:01]  * knome shrugs
[09:01] <knome> in a way, i'm not surprised at all..
[09:02] <knome> partly because there is obviously a huge amount of uninteresting email
[09:02] <knome> and partly because... well, you know, sometimes you just don't care :P
[09:02] <slickymasterWork> or because they probably don't think ubiquity has such a relevancy
[09:02] <knome> yeah, i don't know
[09:03] <slickymasterWork> yes, which also makes think of something. if we went to a split solution, how would the maintenance of that package would end
[09:03] <knome> heh
[09:03] <slickymasterWork> I mean, not worrying about 'ours'
[09:03] <knome> it would mean that others were maintained better than others
[09:04] <slickymasterWork> yeah, but the all ubuntu ecosystem image would certainly suffer from that
[09:05] <knome> tbe,
[09:05] <knome> looking at the mailing list archives
[09:05] <knome> not all mailing list have got it
[09:05] <knome> well, meaning that it's likely sitting in the moderation queue
[09:06] <slickymasterWork> odd, I believe I got the bouncers mail from each
[09:06] <slickymasterWork> oh yeah
[09:06] <slickymasterWork> that maybe
[09:06] <knome> for example, there is no trace of the message on ubuntu-devel
[09:08] <slickymasterWork> but since gunnar answered CCing ubuntu-devel (and I'm assuming his email not blocked there) somehow the email allready went through 
[09:10] <knome> right, actually now i see your mail too
[09:11] <knome> either i didn't just see it before or somebody literally just approved it
[09:11] <slickymasterWork> no Murphy's law there :)
[09:11] <knome> heh
[10:49] <bluesabre> Added Xubuntu Classic and Modern layouts for xfpanel-switch
[10:49] <bluesabre> current layouts: https://imgur.com/a/FbsEe
[11:06] <slickymasterWork> fancy bluesabre 
[11:33]  * bluesabre bows
[11:34] <bluesabre> should have a new release tonight.  will upload that with the new layouts once I work out the final bugs
[11:37] <slickymasterWork> great \o/
[11:41]  * bluesabre is tempted to add that (layouts) to the artwork bp to undo ochosi's victory cheer
[11:43] <bluesabre> gotta run, bbl
[11:44] <slickymasterWork> hf bluesabre 
[13:54] <jjfrv8> bluesabre, I pulled and compiled your version of xfpanel-switch but it seems to have a different problem now.
[13:54] <jjfrv8> Regardless of what kind of changes I make to the panel, when I save and then restore, it always reverts back to the default panel.
[13:54] <jjfrv8> Switching among all of the sample layouts works fine, but restoring a custom, saved panel always restores the default panel instead.
[13:54] <jjfrv8> Tried it on two different machines. Hope I'm not doing something stupid.
[15:05] <slickymasterWork> mr krytarik and mr dkessel -> https://translations.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs/wily/+pots/desktop-guide/de/+translate?show=untranslated
[15:05] <slickymasterWork> mr knome -> https://translations.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs/wily/+pots/desktop-guide/fi/+translate?show=untranslated
[15:06] <slickymasterWork> GridCube -> https://translations.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs/wily/+pots/desktop-guide/es/+translate?show=untranslated
[15:06] <slickymasterWork> :)
[15:12] <GridCube> passing it to mrtulias slickymasterWork :D he has done all translations lately and recently got into the translation team so he doesnt need to be aproved
[15:12] <slickymasterWork> great
[15:12] <slickymasterWork> thanks for that GridCube 
[15:13] <GridCube> :)
[15:16] <slickymasterWork> krytarik, knome, new wily box with today's image, here's the error I'm getting when building locally the documentation:
[15:17] <slickymasterWork> http://pastebin.com/nQQnH8Ga
[15:26] <krytarik> slickymasterWork: That all?
[15:26] <slickymasterWork> my first ping or the second one?
[15:26] <krytarik> Second.
[15:26] <slickymasterWork> yeaps, that's all it spit out
[15:27] <slickymasterWork> errors that is
[15:28] <krytarik> slickymasterWork: Sure you have all build depends installed?
[15:28] <slickymasterWork> yes, bzr, xsltproc docbook-xsl and fop
[15:29] <slickymasterWork> are there any others I'm not aware of?
[15:29] <slickymasterWork> anyway it didn't nag about any dependency issues
[15:31] <slickymasterWork> and it's only giving the english language
[15:32] <slickymasterWork> neither Deutsch, español, suomi, français and português languages are available, both html and pdf
[15:32] <krytarik> slickymasterWork: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/xubuntu-docs/wily/view/head:/debian/control :P
[15:33] <slickymasterWork> now he tells me :P
[15:36] <slickymasterWork> ok krytarik, going to install the missing ones so you can deal with my first ping :P
[15:36] <krytarik> lol
[16:27] <knome> slickymasterWork, pushed new revision with your fix
[16:27] <knome> slickymasterWork, also, if you translated the pdf link stuff, you have to translate it again now :P
[16:27] <slickymasterWork> great, thanks for the first
[16:27] <slickymasterWork> not so thanks for the later :P
[16:27] <slickymasterWork> ;)
[16:27] <knome> that's what you get for being too motivated
[16:27] <slickymasterWork> lol
[16:28] <knome> wife is currently reading a book called "creative lazyness"
[16:28] <knome> would work for you too..
[16:30] <slickymasterWork> lol, I bet I'd love to see it... in finnish 
[16:30] <knome> yep
[16:38] <davmor2> If you're that lazy that you need to read a book you'll never finish it anyway right
[16:39] <flocculant> if you're that lazy - you'd want an audiobook ... 
[16:39] <flocculant> translated obviously :p
[16:39] <davmor2> man then you got to listen to it and everything
[16:39] <flocculant> ha ha 
[20:53] <ochosi> bluesabre: awesome work on the layouts! i presume you'll keep those screenshots around for the release announcement ;)
[20:56] <ochosi> bluesabre: also, nice work on the bugfixes! and actually i think the presets we're shipping with this release are good enough. it's ok to ship more or work on that for the next release (i'm still somewhat surprised how we managed to actually finalize xfpanel-switch for 15.10)
[21:14] <ochosi> bluesabre: also, just so you can have some fun i just pushed a more consistent restart icon for our logout dialog (and so that flocculant is even more confused about that ;))
[21:33] <ochosi> bluesabre: and just to tease you, i pushed a better shutdown icon too... :>
[21:34] <ochosi> (only hibernate and suspend to go)
[21:51] <bluesabre> ochosi: nice
[21:51] <bluesabre> planning to have them done tonight for one last upload?
[21:51] <bluesabre> ochosi: I'll make better screenshots for the release announcement
[21:51] <knome> ochosi, btw, jjfrv8 is waiting you to review the thunar docs
[21:54] <ochosi> bluesabre: not sure i can make hibernate and suspend in time
[21:56] <knome> ochosi, you have the ideas for those?
[21:56] <knome> ochosi, or do you just plan to "refresh" the current style
[21:57] <bluesabre> ochosi: cool, np. I'll upload whatever is up tomorrow morning before I go to work
[21:57]  * knome wonders where Unit193 is lurking
[21:58] <ochosi> knome: not really, no. i think the suspend icon is sorta ok (it's a clock)
[21:59] <ochosi> the hibernate icon is still the old clock style
[22:01] <knome> Unit193, anything new from alessio or Corsac?
[22:01] <bluesabre> gotta run again, bbabl
[22:01] <knome> Unit193, have you done the changes m requested in the reviews?
[22:02] <knome> Unit193, any news about the packageset application process?
[22:03] <bluesabre> knome really likes green bars
[22:03] <bluesabre> running out
[22:04] <knome> ;)
[22:04] <knome> hf bluesabre 
[22:14] <Unit193> Nope, Nope, Nope.
[22:21] <knome> Unit193, let's change the middle nope
[22:21] <knome> :P
[22:40] <Unit193> knome: https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/debian-cd/xubuntu-core/+merge/267879 I disagree.
[22:41] <Unit193> Unless you think that bluesabre and you want to create two sets of release notes, I doubt it though.
[22:42] <knome> i don't. we can simply mention that -core is different
[22:42] <Unit193> Yep.
[22:42] <knome> the question can be revisited for 16.04 anyway.
[22:43] <knome> for now, i think it would just make sense to get things rolling.
[22:43] <knome> then iterate with it
[22:45] <bluesabre> +1
[22:47] <Unit193> How do I  get rebase -i  with bzr?
[22:47]  * bluesabre does not know
[22:50] <knome> from http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/beta/en/user-guide/adv_merging.html: "Rebasing is supported in Bazaar by the rebase command provided by the rebase plugin."
[22:52] <Unit193> Oops.
[23:03] <Unit193> Otherwise, they're already subscribed they just haven't commented.
[23:04] <Unit193> knome: ↑
[23:08] <knome> they?
[23:16] <krytarik> knome: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+members
[23:21] <knome> aha.
[23:21] <knome> i would still do the changes m suggested
[23:25] <Unit193> Most have been.
[23:25] <knome> Unit193, have you resubmitted the proposals?
[23:25] <knome> (i'm too lazy to check)
[23:25] <Unit193> s/resubmitted/updated/
[23:25] <SwissBot> Unit193: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[23:26] <knome> well whatever the term is
[23:26] <knome> if yes, why don't you poke people on u-devel or u-release?