[00:06] <jpwhiting> hey all, anyone running kubuntu here that could check something for me? I'm thinking of closing https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348700
[00:07] <jpwhiting> the translation says they can't set the date/time from system settings in "Regional settings" -> "date & time" even with the automatic set time checkbox unchecked
[00:07] <jpwhiting> it's working fine here, but I've got much newer plasma than 5.2.2 (running master branch from git)
[00:44]  * keithzg is just going to stop being lazy and debootstrap an install on a GPT disk.
[00:46] <keithzg> jpwhiting: Hmm, I'm at work and we only run the LTS here, but I think I have a VM sitting around that I can fire back up to check this.
[00:50] <jpwhiting> keithzg: awesome, thanks
[00:56] <keithzg> Ah, hmm, it seems to have locked up System Settings?
[00:56] <keithzg> Although I guess I shouldn't be surprised, with the system clock versus the virtual machine clock probably causing a bit of a fight. I have 15.04 installed on two machines at home, I should probably just check there.
[01:08] <jpwhiting> ah, could be, interesting, ok
[01:08] <jpwhiting> thanks for checking
[07:33] <kraig> im running a new install of kubuntu on my alienware m11xr3, i was wondering if i need to set up bumblebee for the drivers
[07:35] <soee_> new Kubuntu = Vivid ?
[07:35] <kraig> 15.04
[07:36] <hateball> I think nvidia-prime is what is used these days for hybrids
[07:36] <hateball> Altho I will not swear upon such a claim
[07:36] <soee_> yes, kraig add this ppa https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[07:36] <soee_> and just install driver version you want (probably 352)
[07:36] <soee_> it will install nvidia-prime etc.
[07:37] <kraig> i have the nvidia setting in the menu and can choose between intel and nvidia cards but not sure this is as good as the bumblebee project
[07:37] <soee_> kraig: it is supported by ubuntu developers
[07:37] <soee_> i'm using it on my Dell laptop for a long time
[07:37] <kraig> i have the the PRIME profiles in my xserver settings
[07:38] <soee_> kraig: nvidia-settings provides gui for nvidia-prime
[07:38] <kraig> does that mean it is all installed already
[07:38] <soee_> should be if you have nvidia driver installed
[07:39] <soee_> you can switch profile, than ogout and login again
[07:39] <soee_> and you should be on nvidia
[07:39] <kraig> yes thats what it does
[07:40] <kraig> im using the Nvidia binary driver-version 346.59 from nvidia-346-updates
[07:40] <kraig> sorry not the updates one lol
[07:41] <kraig> so am i right in thinking i dont need to mess with bumblebee at all then
[07:41] <soee_> kraig: you don't need bumblebee
[07:41] <kraig> thats super news, thank you all for your time and expertise
[07:41] <kraig> its much appreciated
[07:42] <kraig> why cant i get glxsperes in the konsole
[07:43] <soee_> glxgears ?
[07:43] <kraig> i think so, to check the driver and frame rates
[07:44] <kraig> ah it says to install mesa-utils
[07:44] <soee_> it is an extra package, do you have it installed ?
[07:44] <kraig> silly me
[07:46] <kraig> one last request, does anyone know what is a good FPS  as im getting 59.9 on my intel card profile
[07:50] <soee_> don't know ;) i do not need more than 60 and that is what i have set when using nvidia while playing CS:GO
[07:56] <hateball> oh they left
[07:56] <hateball> if you use vsync you wont get more fps than what's vsynced...
[08:28] <yossarianuk> Using Nvidia I have to disable Vblank in nvidia-settings are most games are really laggy/unplayable.
[08:34] <nishikino-maki> is anyone using dual-monltor?
[08:40] <hateball> nishikino-maki: Are you taking a poll or do you have a problem?
[09:07] <nishikino-maki> no i get da dual-monltor XD but it's helping for drawing?
[09:07] <nishikino-maki> or video edit?
[09:08] <nishikino-maki> and some workstation pc is using dual-monltor
[09:22] <hateball> nishikino-maki: I have no idea what you are asking
[09:27] <basse> hi, how can I refresh the plasmoid cache?  I'm writing a plasmoid but it doesnt seem to be updating when I alter the code
[11:11] <petersaints> Hi guys! I'm just wondering, are there plans to backport the latest KDE Plamas (5.4) to the current Ubuntu release (15.04), like you (almost?) always do? Or this time you will only make it available on the next version (15.10)? If it's the latter, is there a technical reason which makes it particularly hard to make KDE Plasma 5.4 work on a Ubuntu 15.04 base, or you are just currently lacking the man power to build and package KDE
[11:11] <petersaints> Plamas 5.
[11:12] <hateball> afaik there's no plans on backports
[11:12] <hateball> but 5.4 is in 15.10 alread
[11:17] <petersaints> I know that it is on 15.10. It's just that we got used to get the latest KDE Plasma on the current release just a few days or a week after it was released. This time this didn't happen. But please understand that I'm not complaining.
[11:18] <hateball> but if you're on 15.04 you're on non-lts anyhow, and should be upgrading at any rate
[11:27] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:38] <nishikino-maki> why aoc monltor looks white screen have some yellow...
[12:52] <gaurav____> hey good evning
[12:56] <dieterd> apt-get upgrade:  failure in gtkdialog. unknown elements dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile Error 2. No solution found in www. deb maintainer comes from multiboot. Seems more a dummy package. Looking for a work around.
[13:02] <soee_> gaurav____: hiho
[13:14] <gaurav____> guys can someone please help me
[13:15] <soee_> !ask gaurav____
[13:16] <soee_> gaurav____ !ask
[13:16] <gaurav____> im using kubuntu 9.10 (had a bad hard disk accident)
[13:16] <gaurav____> now i have an iso of fedora and a tar.bz2 file of usb live creator
[13:16] <gaurav____> i tried installing usb live creator ad its not helping
[13:19] <lordievader> 9.10? Wow.
[13:19] <lordievader> Probably easier to create a live cd/usb on a different machine with a more recent os.
[13:23] <gaurav____> yeah havent used linux in over 5 years
[13:28] <akik> gaurav____: you can dd the iso to the usb stick
[13:29] <KSX> isnt unetbootin better than DD?
[13:29] <gaurav____> i feel like such a noob
[13:29] <akik> both work
[13:30] <gaurav____> im copying the image to usb stick
[13:30] <akik> copying, how?
[13:30] <KSX> you mean burning the image into the stick?
[13:30] <gaurav____> nope just copy pasting
[13:30] <akik> it won't work
[13:31] <KSX> you cant just copy the iso into the stick.....
[13:31] <KSX> -_-
[13:31] <gaurav____> lol i mean im burning it from neighbors pc
[13:31] <akik> gaurav____: run lsblk and find out the usb stick device, then dd if=kubuntu.iso of=usb_stick_device bs=1M
[13:32] <KSX>  /sda/dev is probably the stick
[13:32] <akik> umount the usb_stick first
[13:32] <akik> ksx: there is no default
[13:33] <BluesKaj> dd has n't failed me yet  whereas unetbootin doesn't work most of the time here
[13:38] <dieterd> join multiboot
[13:38] <dieterd> #join multiboot
[13:40] <KSX> dieterd, "/join #multiboot"
[13:40] <dieterd> Please, do you know a work around a buggy deb  for apt-get install process
[13:41] <BluesKaj> dieterd, which deb ?
[13:42] <dieterd> it's the gtkdialog (gtkdialog_2%3a0.8.3-2_i386.deb)
[13:42] <gaurav____> phew finally got fedora
[13:42] <gaurav____> thanks a ton everyone
[13:42] <gaurav____> see u all in a while
[13:45] <dieterd> Inside the deb is a file *install. This contains only text (Warning ...) and no scripts or bash orders. Text is not but into #-signs for only commands.
[13:46] <BluesKaj> dieterd, where is this deb located ?
[13:50] <dieterd> usr/bin/gtkdialog
[13:50] <dieterd> usr/share/doc/gtkdialog/README.Debian
[13:50] <dieterd> usr/share/info/gtkdialog.info.gz
[13:54] <dieterd> Maintainer multiboot website  /var/apt/cache/gtk....deb  looked inside with  mc
[13:55] <KSX>  guys, everytime i try to shutdown kubuntu, i get an error and the system crashes
[13:57] <KSX> i have so many problems with kubuntu i might have to switch
[13:59] <dieterd> question to KSX, terminal with command "dmesg" is there anything strange?
[14:00] <KSX> "bash: syntax error near unexpected token"
[14:02] <KSX> dieterd, what is that command?
[14:03] <dieterd> dmesg | wc  more than  716    6073   45893. Some month ago I had noch 716 I had 4000 - it was my HD
[14:03] <dieterd> dmesg
[14:03] <dieterd> displays all error messages in terminal/konsole.
[14:06] <KSX> wait a sec, i will paste the results to dpaste
[14:06] <dieterd> BluesKaj: File has round 100kB, but inside browsing there are only some kB. I deletet and downloaded again. same failure.
[14:07] <KSX> dieterd, http://dpaste.com/25P3JJZ
[14:08] <BluesKaj> dieterd, is the source reliable, andfrom  where did you download it?
[14:09] <dieterd> KSX: hope did delete your MAC-ID before.
[14:10] <KSX> dieterd, what?
[14:10] <dieterd> here is the interesting line:  [   16.699093] EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[14:10] <dieterd> I had this with my disk to. remount -ro
[14:11] <KSX> so, whats the problem?
[14:13] <BluesKaj> dieterd, if you donloaded that deb file from an unsupported source then we can't help you here.
[14:13] <jacobtey> Hi! Can anybody answer me what about localisation in KDEApplication 15.08? I'm using kubuntu-ci ppa. There isn''t kde-l10n-ru-15.08 in it. But KDE anounced this package in August.
[14:14] <dieterd> in case your kubuntu is on sda1 then there is a bug in file system.  You need to run "fsck.ext4"
[14:14] <BluesKaj> jacobtey, check in #kubuntu-devel
[14:15] <jacobtey> thanx
[14:15] <dieterd> But this only works when your partition is not mounted. So you need a live file CD or USB-live version to correct your file system.
[14:15] <KSX> i still have kubuntu on usb stick
[14:16] <KSX> so i boot from usb and then..... ?
[14:17] <KSX> should i do "fsck.ext4 -p" in the terminal?
[14:18] <dieterd> KSX: you should install smartmontools and run sudo smartctl /dev/sda to find out whats with your HD too
[14:18] <KSX> smartmontools from the repo?
[14:18] <dieterd> yes, but when startet from stick
[14:19] <dieterd> from the repo is good enough for built hard drives.
[14:19] <KSX> so, i should boot from usb and select "try kubuntu" ?
[14:20] <BluesKaj> KSX, it won't hurt anything, go ahead
[14:20] <dieterd> KSX: yes, go to terminal and fsck.ext4    /dev/sda1
[14:21] <KSX> dieterd, now?
[14:21] <dieterd> Yes, wont hurt like BluesKaj wrote.
[14:22] <KSX> "WARNING!!!  The filesystem is mounted.   If you continue you ***WILL*** cause ***SEVERE*** filesystem damage." should i continue?
[14:23] <dieterd> First please unmount partition.
[14:23] <dieterd> umount /dev/sda1
[14:24] <dieterd> or it is now sdb1, because you boot from stick.
[14:24] <BluesKaj> that's a strange warning if HDD isn't even being called
[14:25] <KSX> "mount: /: target is busy (In some cases useful info about processes that use the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1).)"
[14:25] <dieterd> terminal: mount
[14:25] <KSX> wait, i dint booted from the stick yet
[14:26] <KSX> brb
[14:26] <dieterd> KSX: then it will not work. But you have to look which drive then it will be.
[14:27] <BluesKaj> probly needs to set the boot sequence with USB as first
[14:28] <KSX> im back
[14:28] <KSX> i booted from the stick
[14:29] <KSX> what should i do now?
[14:30] <KSX> dieterd:
[14:32] <KSX> anyone here?
[14:35] <dieterd> yeah works?
[14:35] <dieterd> open the terminal
[14:35] <KSX> ok
[14:35] <dieterd> KSX: open terminal
[14:35] <KSX> konsole is opened
[14:35] <dieterd> first: mount
[14:36] <dieterd> look on output
[14:36] <KSX> how?
[14:36] <dieterd> only mount and return
[14:36] <dieterd> prints what is mounted
[14:36] <KSX> whats the command?
[14:36] <dieterd> mount
[14:36] <dieterd> no options
[14:37] <KSX> dieterd: http://dpaste.com/1MWZD7E
[14:39] <dieterd> KSX: good is that your HD is not mounted. Now we had to look up, where now is your HD really.
[14:40] <KSX> ok
[14:41] <dieterd> KSX: type in blkid
[14:41] <KSX> so.... whats now?
[14:42] <KSX>  /dev/sda1: UUID="40927134-91b9-4035-8b1e-760eeefe7506" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="17a4fe3e-01"
[14:42] <dieterd> KSX: That shows you all partitons available. We have to figure out if its sda1, sdc1 or sdd1.
[14:44] <dieterd> KSX: now you have to check the file system: sudo fsck.ext4  /dev/sda1
[14:45] <dieterd> KSX: your output shows, it is sda1, good.
[14:45] <KSX> ok
[14:47] <KSX> what do i do now?
[14:47] <dieterd> did you run fsck ?  did it found errors?
[14:47] <dieterd> sudo fsck.ext4  /dev/sda1
[14:48] <dieterd> (default is that it asks for confirming corrections)
[14:48] <KSX>  /dev/sda1: clean, 242679/9510912 files, 2539817/38032640 blocks
[14:50] <dieterd> so no errors reported?
[14:50] <KSX> i dont think so
[14:52] <dieterd> Some minor bugs were corrected without asking I figured out, especially with heavy journaling file systems like ext4.
[14:52] <KSX> what does that mean?
[14:53] <dieterd> You could also check your other partitions (if they are not ntfs). Your second partition.
[14:54] <lordievader> Disk problems?
[14:54] <dieterd> journaling means that every change will be protokolled minimum double times in your file system.
[14:54] <KSX> ok
[14:55] <KSX> how do i check my other partions?
[14:56] <dieterd> for a period of time. to make sure that in case of power fail off it's possible to detect this sectors.
[14:56] <dieterd> fsck figures out type by itself.
[14:56] <dieterd> sudo fsck  /dev/sda1
[14:57] <dieterd> works also.
[14:57] <KSX>  /dev/sda1: clean, 242679/9510912 files, 2539817/38032640 blocks
[14:57] <dieterd> sudo fsck  /dev/sda2
[14:57] <dieterd> and so on. look what partitions all listed by blkid
[14:57] <KSX> "fsck.ext2: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda2"
[14:58] <KSX> there is only one partion
[14:59] <dieterd> [0.853931]  sda: sda1 sda2 < sda5 >
[15:00] <dieterd> please try sda5 too
[15:00] <KSX> "
[15:00] <KSX> fsck.ext2: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda2
[15:00] <KSX> Could this be a zero-length partition?
[15:01] <dieterd> I do not know
[15:01] <dieterd> try
[15:01] <dieterd> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[15:02] <dieterd> to find out about your partitions.  may be there is an EFI oder UEFI partition on your drive.
[15:02] <KSX> http://dpaste.com/0TK9DW0
[15:04] <dieterd> thats ok. only one partition.
[15:05] <dieterd> now lets check with smartmontools
[15:05] <KSX>  sudo apt-get smartmontools?
[15:06] <dieterd> good: sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[15:07] <KSX> done
[15:07] <dieterd> then: smartctl /dev/sda  (before pastebin delete ID, serial number)
[15:08] <KSX> ATA device successfully opened
[15:08] <KSX> Use 'smartctl -a' (or '-x') to print SMART (and more) information
[15:08] <dieterd> I forgot urgend option: smartctl -a /dev/sda
[15:10] <KSX> http://dpaste.com/3BVMADD
[15:10] <dieterd> An exmple for an HD which is ok:
[15:10] <dieterd> SMART Error Log Version: 1
[15:10] <dieterd> No Errors Logged
[15:10] <dieterd> SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
[15:10] <dieterd> Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
[15:10] <dieterd> # 1  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1333         -
[15:12] <genii> !pastebin
[15:14] <KSX> so, is my HDD ok?
[15:15] <dieterd> compared to mine: http://dpaste.com/06M3AFS seems not defect, but not so healthy as mine.
[15:15] <dieterd> I am not shure if in your BIOS smartctl was activated.
[15:16] <KSX> BIOS smartctl?
[15:19] <lordievader> KSX: Very high seek error rate, luckily no bad sectors.
[15:20] <lordievader> Temperatur is also a bit on the high side for a HDD.
[15:20] <KSX> ok
[15:20] <dieterd> some older HD need smart to put in BIOS.
[15:20] <KSX> what?
[15:21] <lordievader> KSX: Is disk io slow?
[15:22] <dieterd> To make sure that is switched on: sudo smartctl -s on /dev/sda
[15:23] <KSX> lordievader: im not sure
[15:24] <dieterd> For self test run: sudo smartctl -t short /dev/sda
[15:24] <dieterd> this will take about 2 minutes. You will hear HD running.
[15:25] <KSX> yep, the HDD is running
[15:27] <KSX> still waiting...
[15:28] <dieterd> look at smartl -a .... below line "SMART Self-test" there will be "#1 ...." with the result.
[15:30] <KSX> dieterd: command not found
[15:30] <dieterd> You have 4G RAM so swap should seldom be used. Because its at the end of your HD and head has to jump always al long distance.
[15:30] <dieterd> smartctl -a /dev/sda
[15:32] <KSX> "Completed without error       00%     22831"
[15:32] <dieterd> then compare with your pasted between line 75..80
[15:34] <KSX> there is no much diffrence
[15:34] <KSX> so, is everything ok?
[15:35] <dieterd> but seems all ok. then you should think about starting again from your HD. Before shut down look with "dmesg" on terminal for errors, ata sata etc.
[15:36] <KSX> ok, thanks
[15:36] <KSX> i have to go
[15:38] <dieterd> KS: [   16.735666] systemd-journald[239]: Received request to flush runtime journal from PID 1
[15:39] <dieterd> Erro was in Journal!
[15:41] <dieterd> BluesKaj: Do you have an idea how I could solve my problem?
[15:47] <BluesKaj> dieterd, I asked earlier what the source of your deb file is because it's difficult to fix and track errors from unsupported sources
[16:20] <dieterd> BluesKaj: Ubuntu says Debian, Debian says Multiboot and liveusb.info.  http://dpaste.com/3V016EV
[16:26] <dieterd> BluesKaj: I wrote to liveusb http://dpaste.com/17HWZ4J but there gmail refuses emails from yahoo account. "The mail system <liveusb@gmail.com>: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.71.26] said: 550-5.7.1 Unauthenticated email from yahoo.com is not accepted due to    domain's 550-5.7.1 DMARC policy."
[16:29] <BluesKaj> dieterd, your sources.list is for Lucid which is no longer supported , kubuntu 10.04 , you should be using 12.04LTS at the very least
[16:35] <dieterd> BluesKaj: I am running old hardware and from Ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04 there are too many support legacy hw deleted from kernel.
[16:36] <dieterd> I figured out that file is not complet. Content should be 300k, filesize is 100k content is 27k. There was something wrong with package.
[16:40] <BluesKaj> so am I, my pc is from 2008 , but my OS is Kubuntu 15 10 beta , which I'm testing for the develpoers , and it's running fine ... no excuse to run such an old OS and kernel , sorry i can't help
[16:53] <dieterd> BluesKaj: The buggy file is on sourceforge too, for Intel and AMD.
[16:59] <TopGear> I'm a tad confused, could someone explain the difference between Kubuntu's Backports and Continuous Integration (CI) Stable?
[17:00] <lordievader> TopGear: CI is an automated system building from git sources whereas Backports involves manual labor.
[17:01] <TopGear> Ah, thanks. I guess I'll go with Backports then. Don't wish to mess it up too quickly.
[17:06] <BluesKaj>  prefer backports since they're a known quantity
[17:07] <BluesKaj> i don't mind a little bit of copying and pasting into the sources.list
[17:08] <TopGear> BluesKaj, What do you mean with copying and pasting?
[17:10] <BluesKaj> TopGear, just ignore me i'm old school, copy the deb sources to my sources.list rather than apt add
[17:10] <TopGear> Baldrson, Ooh, that way. sudo add-apt-repository is where it's at for me ;-)
[17:11] <BluesKaj> I'm old and my habits don't change much
[17:31] <trixi> hi all, I recently installed Kubuntu 15.04 beside Win 10 and I noticed that I don't have any sound.
[17:32] <trixi> I tried correcting it in audio settings, but nothing happens
[17:33] <trixi> does anyone have a clue of what causes it?
[17:33] <soee_> BluesKaj: ^ van you help
[17:34] <soee_> trixi: might be some channel is muted
[17:37] <trixi> and in that case where do I change that?
[17:37] <trixi> cause I'm not really good with kubuntu
[17:38] <soee_> wel first try in System Settings -> Multimedia
[17:40] <trixi> that's where I first tried, but didn't succeed
[17:43] <trixi> although something's different now because there's a greyed out device which wasn't there before
[17:45] <trixi> but maybe just because I clicked on everything like a lunatic and now it thinks I have  a device that I don't actually
[17:55] <trixi> ok, so I ran "pacmd list-sinks" and it gave me a bunch of data
[17:57] <trixi> it says none of my speakers are muted, they're on 45% volume and a lot of other stuff
[17:57] <lordievader> trixi: Does 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' generate audio?
[17:59] <trixi> nope
[18:01] <lordievader> trixi: What does 'lspci -k|grep -A3 Audio' return?
[18:01] <lordievader> !pastebin
[18:05] <trixi> http://pastebin.com/hzNS2ek6
[18:09] <trixi> I don't think this helped very much
[18:11] <mariano_> I'm using xubuntu 15.04 but I would like to try kde. From what I understand, I can get kde by typing apt-get install kubuntu-desktop in the terminal. Will my installed apps be available in kde too or will I have to reinstall all of my apps in the KDE environment too? Also, will I be able to use either environment as I please?
[18:11] <tahaan> I am thinking there has to be a more user friendly way of mounting/accessing VBox Shared Folders in an Ubuntu guest.
[18:12] <tahaan> Something like how newly connected flash drives pop up and lets you choose to mount them in the device notifier
[18:13] <tahaan> I'm sure the guest additions could trigger a udev rule?
[18:13] <lordievader> trixi: Anything muted in alsamixer?
[18:14] <tahaan> Can a udev rule be picked up/handled by Device Notifier?
[18:18] <trixi> lordievader: aw man, yes it was, I unmuted, but I still don't have sound D:
[18:21] <lordievader> trixi: Not with the aplay command?
[18:21] <BluesKaj> trixi, how about automute , was it enabled? If so use the down arrow key to disable it
[18:23] <trixi> no and no :/
[18:26] <lordievader> trixi: What is the output of 'pactl info'?
[18:27] <trixi> http://pastebin.com/EcdSNPVQ
[18:28] <BluesKaj> trixi, try sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , then reboot , sometimes after an upgrade the intel driver doesn't load on boot.
[18:29] <BluesKaj> altho i heven't seen that on 15.04 yet
[18:30] <trixi> ok brb
[18:31] <lordievader> Hmm default sink seems to be correct.
[18:31] <lordievader> Unless trixi wants it to go to hdmi.
[18:33] <BluesKaj> it should feed both if the hdmi connection is detected
[18:33] <trixi> well, still no sound ._.
[18:33] <BluesKaj> altho i don't use pulseaudio
[18:35] <BluesKaj> trixi, can you post a screenshot of alsamixer for us please
[18:35] <trixi> it wasn't my choice
[18:35] <trixi> sure
[18:39] <trixi> http://i.imgur.com/JylyrtT.png
[18:39] <trixi> got it, sorry
[18:40] <lordievader> You are trying to get sound over your speakers?
[18:40] <trixi> a few things got muted after the reboot somehow
[18:41] <trixi> yes, but the headphones doesn't work either, but I imagine they wouldn't after seeing this
[18:44] <lordievader> trixi: Does 'paplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav" produce anything?
[18:45] <trixi> no
[18:45] <trixi> what should I hear btw?
[18:46] <lordievader> A voice saying "Front center".
[18:46] <lordievader> The speakers themselves work?
[18:47] <BluesKaj> yes heaphone ctl muted
[18:47] <trixi> yes, I used them in windows minutes before logging into linux so I don't think they broke in that time
[18:48] <trixi> I mean, it's possible that they broke in that time
[18:49] <trixi> I could check :D
[18:49] <BluesKaj> is this a surround sound speaker system?
[18:49] <BluesKaj> 5.1 or ...?
[18:50] <trixi> no, just one box for bass and two small speakers
[18:50] <BluesKaj> ok
[18:52] <BluesKaj> tri what about system settings>multimedia>music&video> device preference , what options are listed there?
[18:52] <BluesKaj> trixi,^
[18:58] <trixi> BluesKaj: http://i.imgur.com/zGFitwJ.png
[19:00] <BluesKaj> trixi, click on the analog stereo oprton and click the test button at the bottom if there is one
[19:01] <trixi> http://i.imgur.com/D5wDoIm.png
[19:02] <trixi> a clicked those, but nothing happens
[19:02] <trixi> I'm guessing I should hear a sound
[19:05] <BluesKaj> trixi, pulseaudio hads chosen the hdmi output in the hardware setup for some reason,  click on the dropdown an there should be the analog stereo option on the soundcard, profile, sound device and connector
[19:06] <BluesKaj> choose the analog in all of those
[19:07] <BluesKaj> then click on apply of course
[19:20] <trixi> I tried I think every variation of analog, but no sound
[19:23] <BluesKaj> odd, I assume you are using the analog output connection from the sound card to the speaker system ,. either minijack or rca, but not the hdmi
[19:23] <soee_> why are you using hdmi output ?
[19:24] <soee_> set something liek Analog Duplex Stereo or Analog Stereo Output
[19:25] <soee_> and try built-in device
[19:25] <BluesKaj> soee_, thnk pulseaudio is using it...hdmi seems to take precedence
[19:25] <trixi> I use a minijack
[19:27] <soee_> are you on some laptop or pc ?
[19:27] <trixi> I tried all of them, even the ones that don't make sense
[19:27] <trixi> pc
[19:27] <BluesKaj> damn pulseaudio what a pita
[19:28] <BluesKaj> I don't need pulse so I purge it
[19:29] <trixi> what could I use instead of pulseaudio
[19:29] <soee_> meh, install pavucontrol
[19:29] <soee_> and use this gui to configure sound
[19:31] <BluesKaj> intel audio doesn't need pulse unless one wants to use several sound sources simultaneously
[19:32] <BluesKaj> alsa and intel work very well together without PA mucking theings up IME
[19:37] <BluesKaj> trixi, pulseaudio is a requirement for some soundcards that don't have properly written drivers, but intel drivers are solid with alsa whewreas othe audi chips rely on pulseaudio to finish the job for them
[19:37] <BluesKaj> err other audio chips
[19:41] <BluesKaj> and the thing that irks me the most is just removing pulseaudio won't work, it has to be purged , both pulseaudio and pulseaudio-utils, otherwise they remain behind and continue to muck up the audio
[19:45] <trixi> purging sounds like a lot of work
[19:45] <BluesKaj> I just use the package manager
[19:46] <trixi> oh
[19:47] <BluesKaj> sudo apt purge pulseaudio && sudo apt purge pulseaudio-utils will work
[19:47] <BluesKaj> in the konsole if you must'
[19:49] <BluesKaj> trixi, the package manager prefer is not the default muon-discover ,,but the older version, just muon
[19:50] <BluesKaj> muon discover is not well setup for my needs
[19:51]  * genii sticks to apt
[19:53] <trixi> I don't even know why am I using pulseaudio
[19:56] <BluesKaj> it's there by default adopted for all ubuntus back in 2008 I think ..was a very political decision at the time .. lots of users hated it but accepted it after the newer ubuntus releases audio drivers were written to depend on pulse
[19:56] <trixi> I see
[19:59] <BluesKaj> some non intel cards can run without pulse, but they can't link to alsa from flash on websites so flashaudio on the web doesn't work...thank God HTML5 is coming soon and flash audio won't be needed
[20:00] <BluesKaj> youtube mostly uses HTML5 now for audio
[20:04] <BluesKaj> well, calling it a day here ...other stuff to do, take care
[20:06] <ik_> hi
[20:06] <ik_> who is here ?
[20:08] <trixi> I'm here, but I probably can't help you
[20:08] <trixi> in fact I'm going to give up at least for today
[20:08] <ik_> excuse me ...
[20:09] <soee_> hi ik_
[20:09] <ik_> do you know something about the deep web ?
[20:09] <soee_> tor etc ?
[20:09] <ik_> yes I need webs
[20:10] <soee_> no sorry, i do not use onion web
[20:10] <ik_> ohh thnak you
[20:11] <ik_> hey boys someone know Tor web ?
[20:16] <tahaan> ik_: Ask your question
[20:16] <tahaan> Someone will read it.
[20:39] <cofo> anyone with httrack expeience?
[20:39] <cofo> experience
[20:52] <dieterd> gtkdialog not working and sources not possible to compile because gtk2+.pc broken because gtk-engines-2.ps is linking to gtk2+.pc which is not existing.
[20:56] <bender> what
[21:04] <vertago1> Hey I am trying to figure out what to do about the fact that kio-extras is missing thumbnailers for eps, pdf, etc
[21:05] <soee_> um, i don't know :)
[21:34] <mackhanks> No sound with my new kubuntu installed on my Dell dimension e510 media edition
[22:21] <azarismag_> hi
[22:21] <azarismag_> anybody's there
[22:22] <azarismag_> i have a problewith downgrade kdem
[22:23] <soee> downgradeing ?
[22:24] <azarismag_> downgrade i want to unistall plasma 5 and back to the kde 4 ( sory 4 my bad english)
[22:26] <soee> on what Kubuntu version are you ?
[22:27] <azarismag_> system info says 14.04, but in sourcelist i have 15.04
[22:28] <soee> there was Plasma 5 alredy when you installed system ?
[22:31] <azarismag_> previeusly i have deepin linux, but fiew years ago i change source to uibuntu, then kubuntu. todau i have run a system update and a plasma 5 has ben installed and remove my kde 4
[22:32] <soee> how did you run system update ?
[22:34] <azarismag_> chande souce.list to oficiall vivid repo and run reload and update via synaptic
[22:34] <azarismag_> i do that a fiew times long time ago and alweys work for me
[23:16] <steve__> Hi Guys
[23:16] <steve__> I am thinking on switching from debian to kubuntu but i would like to know something before this
[23:17] <steve__> Anyone using android smarthone and digital camera on kubuntu for transfering photos from the devices?
[23:20] <steve__> mayday mayday SOS
[23:22] <steve__> hmmmm
[23:22] <steve__> haho
[23:22] <steve__> hello
[23:22] <steve__> anyone hears me? :)