[01:21] <TJ-> Sad state of affairs when I have to go back to Precise and kernel v3.2 to avoid regressions in the Bluetooth core
[01:53] <OerHeks> I just read you
[01:53] <OerHeks> i setup my apple magic trackpad, no problem at all, TJ-
[01:55] <TJ-> OerHeks: It depends on the way the device authorised. Devices that use the original Bluetooth PinCode fail because the stupid developers ripped out functionality and didn't replace it for bluez 5.x
[01:56] <TJ-> I get sick and tired of this kind of attitude where devs think it is OK to re-write a codebase and release it before it fully replaces the existing functionality
[01:56] <OerHeks> You mean like the standard pin 0000?
[01:57] <TJ-> No PINs at all are support. BT has two authentication methods: PINcode (the original)  and PassCode. They've ripped out PINcode support and not replaced it
[01:57] <TJ-> So devices that work fine with 14.04 fail with 15.10
[01:58] <TJ-> I found another, similar, issue with the kernel bluetooth driver tonight. I have a USB BT adapter that won't function correctly on 15.10, 14.04, or 13.04. I found out tonight it's fine on 12.04 with kernel v3.2. Between v3.2 and v3.8 the kernel's net/bluetooth/hci_core.c broke it.
[02:00] <OerHeks> I am not sure what you mean, i see this, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6885560/bt.png  and works
[02:00] <OerHeks> Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
[02:01] <TJ-> I waste so much time tracking these issues down, repeatedly, that I want to give the devs a slap
[02:02] <TJ-> Yes, you can see the GUI bits, but there is no longer any bluez bluetoothd code for PINcode support. It uses PassPhrase instead... and older BT devices did not have PassPhrase, so it breaks them
[02:05] <TJ-> The bugs are bug 1491988  and  bug 1490347
[02:05] <ubot5> bug 1491988 in linux (Ubuntu) "15.10: Multiple Bluetooth controllers not found" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1491988
[02:05] <ubot5> bug 1490347 in bluez (Ubuntu) "[Regresision] 15:10 - Cannot pair with devices using PIN codes" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1490347
[02:07] <OerHeks> TJ-, how did you get bluez 5.3? i am on 4.101-0ubuntu25
[02:07] <OerHeks> wily only ?
[02:08] <TJ-> Yes; testing the dev version now we're closing on the release
[02:10] <OerHeks> ah oke. most of those commands do not apply on 15.04
[02:12] <TJ-> I've already fixed a crypto bug in GRUB this week; hope I can get these 2 pinned down and fixed as well
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:34] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: o/ .... keeping your seat warm .
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: tnx mate ill take over from here
[03:36] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Great, it is time I thought about vacating .
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> spread the word to update systems soon
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> !usn
[03:36] <ubot5> Please see http://www.ubuntu.com/usn for information about Ubuntu security updates.
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> new exploits been patched
[03:39] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Yepper, I be a fanatic about keeping my system(s) updated .
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> same here mate
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> healthy paranoia cant harm :p
[10:57] <daftykins> wow magnolia has a hot head
[16:40] <OerHeks> 10 september is a troll day ?
[16:40] <daftykins> i see they still come here then :>
[16:40] <daftykins> i think they all are :)
[16:41] <OerHeks> i'll sit back and zip my coffee for a while
[16:42] <daftykins> i really am beginning to enjoy the ignore function
[16:48] <OerHeks> Meanwhile in Japan: "Prime Minister Abe will do its best to deal with the disaster, making the saving of human life our highest priority." http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=ED-20150910-50029-JPN
[16:51] <OerHeks> hi wileee
[17:13] <daftykins> \o
[17:13] <daftykins> ah EriC^^ you found your way back in :>
[17:13] <EriC^^> \o
[17:13] <EriC^^> :D
[18:40] <daftykins> surely CharlesW is a troll :P
[18:41] <pauljw> :)
[19:46] <daftykins> seriously, even 'memtest' has been deleted now?
[19:46] <daftykins> what the hell
[19:46] <OerHeks> nope not deleted
[19:46] <daftykins> no?
[19:46] <daftykins> never existed?
[19:47] <OerHeks> it might be in that folder, something has changed
[19:47] <OerHeks> tools?
[19:48] <daftykins> sorry i mean from ubottu's factoids
[19:49] <OerHeks> !testing
[19:49] <ubot5> To test your hardware, you can use the packages memtest86+ (for memory, can be started from the !GRUB boot menu), smartmontools (for hard drives), cpuburn (which MIGHT damage your processor if cooling is not adequate!). Additionally, lm-sensors can be useful to monitor temperatures and fan speeds - See also !benchmark
[19:49] <OerHeks> https://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=memtest
[19:53] <daftykins> hrmm
[19:53] <daftykins> bit vague
[20:25] <daftykins> that guy skinux is such an asshole, always got problems - shows no courtesy to those who help
[20:26] <TJ-> :)
[20:27] <TJ-> I think he's related to JOW in respect of not listening to repeated advice
[20:34] <daftykins> :D
[20:35] <daftykins> i was told about JOW's regular University IP drama
[20:35] <daftykins> sounds really silly
[20:35] <OerHeks> it is always ubuntu's problem
[21:05] <pauljw> bbl
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[22:12] <OerHeks> daftykins, i think it is the solarstorms man
[22:13] <daftykins> :D
[22:13] <EriC^^> lol
[22:13] <daftykins> so much scum in the world today
[22:13] <daftykins> and far too much allowed internet access
[22:13] <OerHeks> just checked my calendar, it is not weekend, right?
[22:14] <daftykins> nope :(
[22:14] <daftykins> they've started early
[22:14] <OerHeks> ah 11 sept ...
[22:14] <daftykins> wow i had to check what day it was
[22:19] <OerHeks> Do you suffer bicycle-lag ?
[22:19] <OerHeks> (jetlag)
[22:19] <daftykins> :D non-island lag!
[23:36] <daftykins> i shall go laugh myself to sleep over a long-term user copying an ISO onto a flash drive
[23:36] <daftykins> :D