=== markthomas is now known as markthomas|away === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === markthomas|away is now known as markthomas [05:37] Hey is it possible to not have partitions set up for things like / and /home [05:39] I keep running out of space in my / partition since I set it to 10GB, what would be a better size for it i guess [05:40] diytto: I use separate partitions for /, /home, /boot, /var, and /tmp. What are you using the system for? [05:41] I am assuming that's the default, i just have trouble managing my available disk space a lot of the time [05:41] diytto: no, I'm just particular as hell. :P [05:41] diytto: what exactly is filling you up and causing issues? [05:41] ah okay [05:42] well i started a minecraft server for me and a bunch of friends and it's using /tmp or something and filling it up [05:42] diytto: Ahh, gotcha. [05:42] and my web server is taking up space as well [05:42] diytto: which is in /var [05:42] yep [05:42] basically all problems stem from minecraft lol [05:42] diytto: Try this: du -d1 -h / [05:43] actually i think plex is using some also [05:43] diytto: That'll ACTUALLY tell you where all of your space has gone. [05:44] looks like /var and /usr [05:44] diytto: and how is your space allocated currently? partitions, or lvm? [05:45] partitions i believe [05:45] diytto: ouch. [05:45] yeah [05:45] it's a setup from my server host [05:45] they have images i can use [05:46] i can only set partition sizes at setup for the OS, and previously before i had the minecraft server 10GB for / was fine :p [05:48] for something like that, I'd just do everything in a single partition./ [05:49] I would like to do that, but i'm not sure how [05:51] it may not even be possible for my host [05:54] this is from my host http://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Partitionsgrößenlimit_bei_großen_Festplatten/en [05:58] quantic: it looks like i could use LVM [05:58] diytto: then do that. :P [06:00] how would i configure it, what are the options for its usage [06:01] there is a small setup for it from my host, but i don't quite understand all that it is doing [06:02] something about a vg0? [06:07] diytto: tl;dr version: one partition gets carved up for multiple filesystems that can be managed easily without mucking with partitions. [06:07] ah gotcha [06:08] from what i read about it lvm basically just manages everything [06:08] like a bunch of 'virtual' partitions [06:19] iurygregory, should be installable already (python-pysaml2) === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === Guest8229 is now known as Tm_Tr === cipi is now known as CiPi [09:40] hi everyone [09:41] i come to you because i've been a regular user of Ubuntu for a more than a decade now and i would need to install ubuntu server on an IBM Power5 v5r4 . This is the first time i install it on a server without a screen and i would like to just have the overall process or at least where to start ? [10:04] guillaume_s, Serial console, network terminal if Ubuntu Server starts one(can't remember) or make an automated install [10:05] hmm [10:05] Then it's just like installing the minimal, with the options [10:06] This is the first time i approach a server so i don't even know where to start to get to the Serial Console or to the Network (you mean PXE ?) [10:06] i'm installing iSeries Access [10:07] I mean SSH [10:07] It doesn't seem to start on the install cd boot though [10:07] I have no idea what iSeries Access is? [10:08] it is a tool to access your IBM server i guess [10:08] But you need to install it to an installed OS right? [10:09] yes i guess so ? [10:10] Wait, Power5 v5r4? [10:10] yes [10:10] That is not a server? [10:10] It [10:10] It's an OS? [10:10] it is an IBM Power5 server with OS v5r4 [10:11] But you want to replace v5r4 with ubuntu right? [10:12] We don't know exactly what we should do. We would prefer create a partition today and tomorrow maybe delete the partition OS V5r4 [10:12] Well in either case [10:12] iSeries Access won't help you at all [10:12] but it's a dual boot yes [10:12] Or maybe... [10:12] To install ubuntu you should boot the installer from a CD or USB [10:13] i don't know if that's where i could have found an ssh access or something [10:13] yes [10:13] And you want to SSH into THAT [10:13] that's what i want [10:13] iSeries Access would be running on the v5r4 [10:13] So no help [10:13] v5r4 is not running when you install ubuntu [10:13] but how can i get to the server without any screen, how do i get to the ssh before installing ubuntu ? (i must be dumb but i can't figure it out) [10:14] Like I said, you need to boot the install media [10:14] And then you need serial console or SSH access [10:14] For SSH you need to modify the install media to launch the server [10:14] so let's talk pratically ahh [10:14] ok [10:15] And serial console is, serial console? You know what that is? [10:15] so i prepare my usb key with a version that you're gonna tell me is the best [10:15] and how do i boot it from the server ? [10:15] Ahh... [10:16] i know what a serial console is and i used to use SSH but it's just like if i don't know what the doors of a server are, so i don't know where to put my inputs [10:16] If the server is not set up to boot from CD or USB [10:16] you need to change that, if that is not possible from v5r4 somehow then from BIOS, and you need serial console for that [10:17] ok i get this [10:18] then he tells me that he usually use telnet (he never installed linux that's why he needs me) [10:18] Okay? [10:18] but it is useless for what we want to do right ? so if i understood well, i prepare my boot device then i change the boot order on the server it boots on the device [10:18] Yes [10:19] launch an SSH server on which i connect [10:19] Umm [10:19] But if you don't have a screen then [10:19] i don't [10:19] You need a way to access it for install [10:19] No serial console access? [10:20] he tells me we have telnet [10:20] To what? v5r4? [10:20] exact [10:20] we have ethernet ? [10:21] Forget v5r4 [10:21] Forget it is on the server [10:21] You don't have telnet to the bare server [10:21] yes i get that that's what i told it [10:21] If you don't have serial console then it could be possible to install Ubuntu from inside v5r4 too [10:22] It is Linux right? [10:22] propriety system i5 [10:22] not linux [10:23] if only i had a screen ! [10:23] but i should be able to use the pxe right ? [10:23] pxe? [10:23] the network install [10:23] via the ethernet [10:23] You still need a screen... [10:23] yes i have a computer [10:23] PXE only means the server boots via ethernet [10:23] which i connect to the server [10:24] in ethernet and launch the install from there [10:24] Sure, how are you going to see the installer? [10:24] i already install ubuntu like this on another computer when i didn't have any cd or usb key [10:24] guillaume_s: installing an a headless server requires either a remote KVM, or a modified PXE/TFTP/NFS boot that starts an ssh server early [10:24] TJ-, Or serial console [10:24] guillaume_s, v5r4 is linux... [10:24] don't confuse me !!! ;) [10:25] yes ok [10:25] he might not know very well [10:25] Lartza: Or serial console; but you've still got to modify the installer startup code to achieve it [10:26] TJ-, I thought you didn't [10:26] Oh nvm you do... [10:26] he tells me that we need to create a partition from the 5v4 first ? (he remember about a friend who installed linux) can you tell me if that's really necassay or everything can be done via the ubuntu install ? [10:26] Why is the Ubuntu Server iso so bad? [10:26] :D [10:27] guillaume_s, You should free up space for Ubuntu if you can from v5r4 [10:28] But you'll format the space in the installer [10:28] i just want tobe sure (this seems logic to me but as i never used a real server i don't want to make a stupid move) [10:28] so how am i gonna do this ? [10:29] what is the best solution, i have my server and a usb key [10:29] v5r4 isn't Linux by the way, it's IBM i5/OS [10:30] Okay, it was not a clear indication of it was but Linux is referenced in many places for it... [10:30] *if it [10:30] i5/OS is the successor to the OS/400 from the As/400 days [10:31] guillaume_s: You'd best create a test plan and do some none-destructive Linux boot/run tests to begin with, ensure everything works as expected (hardware, services, CPU power/idle, etc.). [10:32] TJ-, He is going to keep v5r4 and dual boot [10:33] so what he tells me (but i'm not sure he exactly know what to do) in his word, we are going to create a partition from Virtual Partition Manager and then "boot on that partition" access it via a ttys and install ubuntu [10:33] does that sound logic to anyone ? [10:33] guillaume_s: And for that you'd be best making an *installintion* of Ubuntu/Linux Server edition to a USB mass storage device, or other removable, bootable, media. You can do that with a QEMU virtual machine to match the architecture. That way you can customised the installed PowerPc image on the removable media and boot-test it in the VM to ensure the SSH service is available early, and that you can [10:33] use it to trigger the debian-installer, rather than have d-i auto-start on the primary console. [10:34] guillaume_s: It sounds like the sysadmin is on about creating an LPAR for Linux [10:34] guillaume_s: in which case it's not replacing i/OS, it is using it as the hypervisor for a Linux partition [10:34] yes [10:35] he is not sure about removing the 5v4 [10:35] 5r4 [10:35] but he would like to be able to do it later [10:35] guillaume_s: this might be useful for you http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg248000.html?Open [10:35] so that's either a sort of dual boot or a way to install it On the 5v4 but it sounds like chinese to me [10:36] TJ-: i was on this http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg246388.pdf [10:36] he doesn't have any HMC console [10:38] "[12:34] guillaume_s: It sounds like the sysadmin is on about creating an LPAR for Linux" what do you mean by IT ? [10:38] guillaume_s: so presumably v5r4 is an upgrade from v5r2? [10:40] guillaume_s: 'It' ... I was referring to your description of the system. If it has i5/OS and the sysadmin talks about partitioning, in IBM land that usually means they are referring to an LPAR, not to the partitioning of a disk that most people familiar with Intel systems think of. [10:40] so he tells me that when you do this then it asks you for the location of the image and starts the installation [10:41] guillaume_s: this gives a good overview. Note for systems without HMC there's the VPM instead. https://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/POWER5/iphat_p5/iphbli5oslpardifferences.htm?cp=POWER5%2F1-7-2-2-1 [10:41] ok i think i understood something, apparently when you create such partition then you can launch it and you are connect via some kind of ttys access [10:42] guillaume_s: it's almost the same as using QEMU for virtual machines. i5/OS VPM acts as the hypervisor admin interface. You configure the location of the OS image, the resources the VM gets, etc. [10:43] does it sound logic to you ? so the best would be to boot on this partition and launch the install via the ttys ? [10:43] is it easy ? [10:43] what should i take care off ? is is like a regular installation (beside configuring apache i imagine) [10:43] guillaume_s: I'ts IBM, they don't make easy... they make complicated + gotchyas to encourage you to buy service and support contracts :) [10:45] but i'm supposed to be the service. I know a lot about computers but the whole server thing is missing in my mind i should be able to do this. I need work and he proposed me a good pay so i'll have to do this [10:45] so basically the VPM will ask me to point it to the ubuntu server image right ? [10:46] guillaume_s: In that PDF guide you gave me, Chapter 3.3 gives details of the VPM steps [10:46] guillaume_s: I suspect the sysadmin will do all that for you? Surely they're not expecting you to handle the VPM side too? [10:48] yes [10:49] niedbalski: hey I see you've been poking at bug 1474667 [10:49] bug 1474667 in ceilometer (Ubuntu Vivid) "log dir permissions are incorrect for use with swift" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1474667 [10:49] yes [10:49] he will do it [10:49] but i can do it too [10:49] any further thoughts on resolution for swift, bearing in mind the NACK from the security team on the proposed fix. [10:49] guillaume_s: if the LPAR is created via VPM because there is no HMC, then the sysadmin can configure a TCP/IP socket as the VMs console. So you'd connect to that and it'd be like a remote-KVM connection. You'd see and be able to interact with the system firmware just like being on a PC. No SSH link required. [10:50] guillaume_s: Will you be on-site whilst installing, or operating from a remote location? [10:50] i'm there [10:50] the server is near me [10:52] so we'll start in 2 hours we are doing a backup [10:52] first [10:52] which image should i use ? [10:54] guillaume_s: OK, now mention of telnet makes sense. I think lack of context is the problem here. When you hear 'telnet' for Linux you jump to the conclusion that the telnet session is initiated by the Linux OS itself. I think however, that the sysadmin means that he'll set up a telnet session for you to the LPARs console (which to you is like a remote-KVM link so you interact with the LPAR at the [10:54] firmware level) [10:55] guillaume_s: image? You mean Ubuntu Server? 14.04.3 LTS for the appropriate archictecture of the LPAR [10:55] yes [10:59] so in his "souvenir" (we are French) he creates the partition via VPM then he can connect to the it via its ip via a terminal [10:59] from there he remembers to be asked for the location of an image to start an install [11:01] but he might remember not that well [11:02] guillaume_s: Read the RedBook guide; it'll ensure you're pre-familiar with what to expect :) [11:02] we are checking. Can i know if you'll be here in 2 hours TJ- i thank you a lot for helping me [11:02] exactly [11:02] thanks Lartza [11:02] guillaume_s: No, I only popped in whilst drinking a coffee :) [11:02] it reminds me of when i was doing this 10 years ago while helping people install linux (on normal machines) [11:03] guillaume_s: I have 2 energetic Huskies and a Border Collie to run into exhaustion :) [11:03] long time i had not been on IRC. [11:03] Much more important my friend :) [11:03] i guess i'll find some help anyway [11:03] it's 1pm here but only 7 am in U.S i guess [11:04] guillaume_s: Good luck with it. Remember, if you're installing to an LPAR.. you can try again if it doesn't succeed first time. [11:04] guillaume_s: I'm in England; midday here [11:05] guillaume_s: I think your main check-list should be to ensure the correct resources at assigned to the LPAR in the VPM [11:05] s/at assigned/are assigned/ [11:13] yes [11:14] so from the Red Book i have understand a few things [11:19] page 178 of the redbook [11:19] they explain how to set a tcp ip connection to connect with HVM [11:21] TJ-: are you still here ? can you check at that place ? 178 i don't know where to point the image [11:21] the ubuntu install image [11:22] IPL stream file right ? [11:23] page 121 [11:24] http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg246388.pdf [11:53] jamespage, do i need to set the repo in the source list? Thanks for the information =) [12:19] Hi, what's the best way to upgrade an older Ubuntu version (10.04 LTS) to the latest version? [12:22] switch the apt sources to old releases archive, do-release-upgrade in the supported steps (LTS to LTS) [12:24] hello! I'm having a problem setting up pam_winbind to work with ssh: wbinfo -u, id and getent passwd all work and show all domains users, and I set "compat winbind" in nsswitch.conf and disabled all firewalls. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 and samba-2:3.6.3-2ubuntu2 and when logging in using ssh, in auth.log I get "account has expired", even though on Ubuntu 14.04 with samba4 the login works for the same user, who has "Account expiration: Never" set in AD. [12:25] the problem seems to be in the account pam processing stage [12:29] I found this patch https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/2:3.6.3-2ubuntu2.5 but I don't know how to get a deb out of it [12:42] here are the relevant parts of auth.log: https://dpaste.de/23ec [12:45] bug 1477225 [12:45] bug 1477225 in ceph (Ubuntu Vivid) "ceph-radosgw restart fails" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1477225 [12:48] arges: hey - any chance we can get the trusty SRU for ^^ accepted? its causing some testing pain right now [12:49] ditto on the vivid on as well === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [13:31] jamespage: there was already a ceph upload in -proposed awaiting verification, this is why I didn't accept that one yet [13:32] jamespage: bug #1475247 and bug #1477174 [13:32] bug 1475247 in ceph (Ubuntu Trusty) "ceph-disk-prepare --zap-disk hang" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1475247 [13:32] bug 1477174 in ceph (Ubuntu Trusty) "[SRU] 0.80.10 stable release" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1477174 [13:53] hey back [13:54] arges: ah right [13:55] so i explain my little story. I'm installing for the first time a Ubuntu on a IBM Power5 machine. Some people have helped me here about the process to follow. Creating a partition via the VPM for the linux and then connect to it via a TCP/IP connection and launch the install. But before this i have to create that partition but i would like to reduce the main i5 v5r4 os [13:55] partition [13:55] does this speaks to any of you ? [14:06] nobody ? [14:36] hey all, I have a fresh install of trusty but my network cards come up as eth0, eth1, etc. How can I get it to use a predictable naming scheme? [14:37] dschatz_: in theory, write udev rules accordingly, but there's a ton of udev rules. In 99% of all cases, that *is* a predictable naming scheme [14:37] (eth# indicates an ethernet interface, wlan# for wireless, tun# for tunnels, etc.) [14:37] unless you mean something else for 'predictable' [14:38] teward, I need it to be stateless: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2015-May/038761.html [14:39] teward, and by predictable I mean (for example) something based off the physical location of the NIC [14:40] I built this FS using debootstrap, and everything I read says that trusty should be using this new predictable method but that doesn't seem to be the case [14:42] I'm not sure if that was implemented in Trusty, since Trusty is back from 2014. The thread you have there is from May, and if I'm not mistaken that wasn't made available until a recent cycle, but I'm not as 100% familiar with the udev stuff. Someone more familiar with that can comment [14:42] (I've not noticed 'predictable' names except in latest daily images, which aren't 14.04) [14:44] Perhaps a latest image has that, and I missed it though [14:44] ok, thanks [14:44] * teward redownloads 14.04 with the latest image [14:48] dschatz_: got supportable confirmation from other devels that that's a Wily change, and not a backportable change so it's not in Trusty. [14:48] in that it's intrusive and they won't apply it retroactively to older releases. [14:49] dschatz_: so whatever 'source' you've been reading saying Trusty has that system of naming, is wrong. [14:49] (it's only in Wily, which isn't even released yet, and is still in devel) [14:53] teward, thanks a lot [15:00] dschatz_: biosdevname might be what you want [15:03] The constant naming scheme for adapters is enabled by default since around 14.04, but generally only works on Dell machines. It can be disabled with the biosdevname=0 option [15:03] genii: no wonder it works so well on my Dell systems xD [15:03] There ya go === markthomas|away is now known as markthomas === markthomas|away is now known as markthomas === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === markthomas|away is now known as markthomas [17:06] Hi! On my MAC iterm I have beautiful colors ZSH - oh my... I have got the same colors to work on ubuntu but I don't remember how I did, do you know how I can get the colors at my ubuntu server? I have zsh activated [17:23] Hi! On my MAC iterm I have beautiful colors ZSH - oh my... I have got the same colors to work on ubuntu but I don't remember how I did, do you know how I can get the colors at my ubuntu server? I have zsh activated === CiPi is now known as cipi [18:32] Something odd has happened on my Ubuntu server. When I run OpenSSL I get this message: openssl: /usr/lib/plexmediaserver/libssl.so.1.0.0: no version information available (required by openssl) [19:33] my has to restart @ a certain once a day. but sometings it doesnt come up again. in which log do i have to look in to find out whats going wwrong [19:33] my *server [19:33] something = sometimes [19:41] is it a known problem that freeradius complains on Trusty about openssl 1.0.1f being vulnerable to heartbleed, when we all know that the Ubuntu package for OpenSSL was patched? [19:43] Kalimero: why does it have to restart daily? that seems like something worth fixing. [19:44] Kalimero: why does it have to restart daily? that seems like something worth fixing. [19:45] sarnold: there a few apps runing slowly eating up all ressoureces so its a reset if will so [19:48] sarnold: but it doesnt matter how often it restarts, does it? even if a let it restart lets say once a week it would hang up just for a greater range of time between it [19:48] Kalimero: eww. could you just kill those individual programs instead? [19:49] Kalimero: indeed, you should expect it to come up without fail every time.. [19:49] sarnold: doesnt cause killing programs in dataloss? [19:51] Kalimero: most daemons will shut down gracefully when you send them a sighup or similar signal [19:51] sarnold: i dont even know if its stuck on the shutdown or the startup process. thats why i asked where i have to look and might get a hint what went wrong [19:52] Kalimero: that does make it harder to troubleshoot; do you have any console logs when it shuts down? [19:53] i schould since ubuntu is logging almost everthing standardly [19:53] or linux in gernal i should say [19:54] Kalimero: i've got to run.. check the logs for more, hopefully you can find something in there.. /var/log/syslog, /var/log/dmesg or /var/log/kern.log.... [19:54] *nod* [20:00] sarnold: device p1p1 left promiscuous mode is what in almost every logs is showing and almost the last thing recorded before the manual hard reset [20:01] sarnold: if it helps to figure it out i could pastbin the logs if u want [20:06] or someone else want to take a look and help me figuring out why my server doesnt restart properly [20:48] <_dreamer> Hi, I have a fresh install of ubuntu server and need expertise on how to continue. I have a host provider and I have bought the domain example.com. What I want to do is for all traffic that goes to subdomain.example.com will land on my server [20:49] <_dreamer> How should I configure the dns on my server in that case? [20:49] <_dreamer> I have read countless guides but nowhere can I get an answer that I fully understand [20:50] <_dreamer> I have installed bind9 and dns utilities [21:37] _dreamer: I think you'll want to add ptr records for subdomain.example.com and reverse records for it to point to your IP [21:37] Kalimero: interesting that its NIC is going into and out of promiscuous mode -- do you expect that? [21:37] <_dreamer> why cant I get noip2 bash script to work? [21:38] sarnold: i dont think so [21:39] Kalimero: very odd... I mean, there's many good utilities that require promiscuous mode to be useful but normally you'd know about it :) [21:39] _dreamer: what errors do you get when you run it? [21:39] <_dreamer> oh hold on [21:39] <_dreamer> think i found the problem [21:42] sarnold: for what is it? [21:43] Kalimero: tcpdump, wireshark, network flow monitoring, etc [21:43] sarnold: i also think it something with the ethernet port. is it possible that is happening because the the server pc has two different eth slots [21:44] Kalimero: no, it depends entirely on which applications you're using [21:46] sarnold: its running a php and apache server, a media server , and a few separate programs [22:02] A VM, too? [22:14] no [22:38] Hi there, I was wondering if anyone might be able to help me please. I am trying to share a folder structure over the local domain, which I have successfully managed to do using centrify. I can see all domain users and groups now on my local nix machine. Would the best way to assign access to directories in a share be using ACL? For example if I have a fodler called DIR1 then subfolders of that DIR2, DIR3, DIR4 but I [22:38] only wanted USER1 to see DIR2 when they entered into the ac folder, would i just remove read,write,execute with ACL ? === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away