[06:35] <thatgraemeguy> mornings
[06:46] <dlPhreak> Greets
[07:38] <Kilos> morning everyone
[08:01] <pieter2627> morning all
[08:02] <barrydk> Morning everyone
[09:21] <Kilos> hi pieter2627 barrydk Cryterion and inetpro 
[09:21] <Kilos> and thatgraemeguy 
[09:21] <Cryterion> Hiya
[09:22] <thatgraemeguy> 'lo
[09:37] <pieter2627> anyone have any experience of studying at Unisa?
[09:58] <MaNI> yes - though its probably somewhat outdated by now
[10:00] <MaNI> I mean I last studied there in 2008 - is there something specific you wanted to know? :p
[10:04] <pieter2627> mainly opinion on their CS course and service
[10:06] <MaNI> there service is not the greatest, though ideally you probably shouldn't have to deal with them much
[10:09]  * pieter2627 observes that they may not know email has a reply feature
[10:09] <MaNI> I found the CS course decent, in that it had a lot of the right subjects etc. - though I think what you get from it depends a lot on how much you put in as a person - I think if you focus on the exams and assignments only it is possible to come out without learning as much as you should have, if you 'play around' a lot with doing your own stuff on the side you can do well
[10:09] <pieter2627> MaNI: overall did the material seem up-to-date?
[10:10] <MaNI> at the time mostly, though its been a while
[10:10] <MaNI> the syllabus was busy geting changed when I left so I imagine its changed quite a bit
[10:12] <pieter2627> so you used the modules with 3 char codes?
[10:12] <MaNI> yeah
[10:13] <MaNI> well COS416-D etc.
[10:14] <MaNI> depends I guess what you want to do in future as well, I enjoyed that they still had C++, while others in the industry will argue that everyone should be learning python now
[10:14] <pieter2627> MaNI: were you able to do the assignments on Linux?
[10:15]  * pieter2627 just happy that it is not java
[10:15] <pieter2627> or delphi
[10:15] <MaNI> depends somewhat on the subject, for some subjects yes, others no
[10:16] <MaNI> at the time they used bloodshed dev-c++ for quite a few subjects and wanted assignments that worked with that - but I imagine they've probably moved on to something else by now
[10:16] <MaNI> at least I hope so
[10:17] <pieter2627> but atleast they did not have an issue if you didn't use Win?
[10:17] <MaNI> well generally as long as it can compile on win when they get it
[10:18] <MaNI> I can suggest the SOC forums to ask for recent experiences perhaps http://osprey.unisa.ac.za/phorum/list.php?668
[10:18] <MaNI> they aren't overly active but the people who do respond there are usually helpful
[10:19] <pieter2627> thanks MaNI 
[10:23] <MaNI> but yeah the not replying to email thing is I'm afraid the norm, especially for registrations they aren't great with that
[10:24] <pieter2627> yeah, also got that yesterday... "you will only be helped once registered"
[10:24] <MaNI> once you are registered there is 'myunisa' with subject forums and stuff - and individual lecturers are a bit more responsive
[10:25] <MaNI> in their defense they do have basically the largest number of registrations in the world to deal with, but yeah :(
[10:25] <pieter2627> guess so
[10:26] <MaNI> I always found it easier to get help in person for registration stuff
[10:26] <MaNI> if you happen to be in driving range from one of the main campuses
[10:27] <MaNI> though they may have done away with that and gone online only - hmm
[10:28] <pieter2627> was there yesterday and got helped on questions that is not too advanced
[10:42] <MaNI> what other unis you considering?
[10:42] <pieter2627> tuks, but not really interested in it
[10:43]  * mazal peaks in
[10:43] <mazal> Afternoon everyone
[10:44] <MaNI> http://wikistudent.ws/Unisa/Category:Computer_Science < you may find that slightly helpful to get a glimpse into some of the subjects
[10:44] <barrydk> Afternoon mazal
[10:44] <mazal> Gaanit oom barry ?
[10:45] <barrydk> Sleg man baie besig nie eers tyd vir minecraft vandag nie
[10:45] <mazal> :( ook so die kant
[10:46] <pieter2627> thanks MaNI, wish some of the wiki entries had more info while also being very excited by others
[10:46] <MaNI> yeah :(
[10:47] <MaNI> there used to be this URL where you could get all the TUT letters for the previous years
[10:47] <MaNI> so I used to trawl those to make my subject choices - but it seems that they took it down
[10:49] <MaNI> dodging the crap subjects is probably key no matter what university :p
[10:58] <pieter2627> that wiki, two others that are also floating around and the module brochure atleast helped to gain inside to all the modules
[10:59]  * pieter2627 knows that he wants to dodge the visual modules
[11:02] <MaNI> heh
[11:02] <MaNI> personally I hated most of the INF subjects
[11:03] <MaNI> I did a dual COS/INF major (don't know if they still offer that) and the INF stuff was mind numbingly boring
[11:10] <pieter2627> yeah, mostly looking forward to only the HCI and planning INF stuff
[11:11] <MaNI> the various database subjects are a snore fest
[11:11] <MaNI> though I suppose at the end of the day they have aided me in life a little
[11:12] <pieter2627> speaking of which, was stored procedures handled when you did it?
[11:13]  * pieter2627 knows he wants to cover that thoroughly
[11:17] <MaNI> yeah, pretty sure they were
[11:44] <stickyboy> unisa.ac.za is running a phorum?
[11:44] <stickyboy> I'm not that into message boards anymore, but I kinda thought this was nice: http://flarum.org/
[11:45] <stickyboy> Hipsters as F*** though.
[11:45] <stickyboy> Right, Kilos?
[17:50] <gremble> Good afternoon
[17:51] <Kilos> hi gremble Cryterion 
[17:52] <gremble> How arey ou Kilos ?
[17:52] <Kilos> fine ty lad and you?
[17:52] <gremble> I am well thank you
[17:56] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:22]  * Cryterion thinks Kilos is confused on devices logging in ;)
[18:25] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:25] <Kilos> went to lappy
[18:26] <Kilos> easier and closer when lying down
[18:26] <Kilos> hehe
[18:32] <Kilos> grumbles  ping
[18:33] <Kilos> did you get the mail in our list from karl?
[18:34] <gremble> Yup. I will send him a message tomorrow
[18:37] <Kilos> ok
[18:40] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[18:49] <superfly> o/
[19:42] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight