[00:00] <cromagi> I have a laptop running ubuntu 14.04. The display is just a lit up black screen on the laptop itself but I have to connect to hdmi to use it. I know its not hardware because I was just running linux mint fine with no problems. What do I do?
[00:02] <zwug> Is there any way to set up auto-mounting for a device when it gets plugged in? Auto-mounting only works when using unity it seems :\ (Im using i3)
[00:02] <cromagi> I have a laptop running ubuntu 14.04. The display is just a lit up black screen on the laptop itself but I have to connect to hdmi to use it. I know its not hardware because I was just running linux mint fine with no problems. What do I do?
[00:03] <zwug> Ubuntu 15.04 btw
[00:03] <cromagi> anyone?
[00:04] <zwug> cromagi: be patient
[00:06] <lfpamah> what?
[00:12] <atmosx> hello
[00:13] <scuba323> hi
[00:13] <atmosx> I have a problem with a service. It's a java service
[00:13] <atmosx> for some reason it starts on boot but it's not starting via upstart
[00:13] <atmosx> or updated-rc.d
[00:13] <atmosx> any other ideas?
[00:14] <atmosx> if I kill 'java' which calles the process (logstash) it respanws with different id
[00:15] <atmosx> I didn't setup the box I'm troubleshooting..
[00:18] <atmosx> even sysv-rc-conf shows nothing...
[00:30] <Giraffe_> o/, I have ubuntu (well, kubuntu atm but the issue is the same for both) running on my mid 2014-mbp. Atm, sometimes my wifi stops working when the computer goes to sleep (and restarting fixes it)
[00:30] <Giraffe_> I tried modifying my pm/sleep.d but that didnt fix it
[00:30] <Giraffe_> any ideas?
[00:34] <loa> can somebody please explain me my output of "dkms status" http://pastebin.com/bJZ2qjwt why there no information about modules for my current kernel? you can see that i have nvidia module for my kernel, what i miss?
[00:34] <loa> and why there is module uvesafb_scale which i built and installed for my current kernel.
[00:45] <xela2244> hi, i am having problems to connect to wifi, after install, any solution?
[00:47] <xela2244> i am using kubuntu 15.04
[00:48] <bazhang> !wifi | have a read xela2244
[00:54] <TechMonger> can someone help me tell me how to handle these files... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/b43-fwcutter/1:019-2 ...for my wifi card driver install
[00:55] <TechMonger> .dsc .bz2 and .xz?
[00:55] <TechMonger> do i make them or do i just ./
[01:02] <loa> TechMonger, why you need this?
[01:02] <TechMonger> my wifi card dosent work
[01:02] <loa> are not there already compiled and ready for use tool?
[01:03] <loa> or for some reason you need to compile it?
[01:03] <loa> by yourself?
[01:03] <loa> yes you can install it sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[01:04] <TechMonger> it says it is already the newest version
[01:04] <TechMonger> grr
[01:04] <loa> if you want build it from sources and apply some patch you can follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb
[01:04] <TechMonger> no
[01:04] <TechMonger> i just want my wifi card to work
[01:04] <loa> from description this tool extracts firmware from your device
[01:04] <loa> not upload
[01:05] <loa> why you need this?
[01:05] <TechMonger> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[01:05] <TechMonger> 	Subsystem: Linksys WMP54GS v1.1 802.11g Wireless-G PCI Adapter with SpeedBooster
[01:05] <TechMonger> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 64, IRQ 20
[01:05] <TechMonger> 	Memory at febfe000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]
[01:05] <TechMonger> 	Kernel driver in use: wl
[01:05] <TechMonger> i guess i dont
[01:05] <Bashing-om> !bcm | TechMonger
[01:07] <TechMonger> i have been here.
[01:07] <TechMonger> i cant seem to get it to work
[01:07] <loa> The b43legacy infrastructure is composed of two parts. The first is the firmware-b43legacy-installer package. This is simply a script to extract and install the b43legacy driver firmware, maintained by the Ubuntu community. The second is the b43 driver, maintained upstream by the Linux kernel community. Instructions to install the package may be found below.
[01:14] <rockstar_> anybody who can help me to access my laptop's apache php page with android phone? I just want to access it via android browser. But my phone can't find it in browser via wifi. Any suggestion?
[01:16] <TechMonger> get an android emulator
[01:16] <TechMonger> maybe
[01:17] <TechMonger> loa my terminal freezes when i run "sudo modprobe b43"
[01:17] <TechMonger> im pretty sure this is where i got stuck the other day
[01:17] <TechMonger> i want to get my wifi card to work so i can control my quadracopter
[01:18] <TechMonger> 0.o
[01:22] <loa> TechMonger, checkout dmesg
[01:23] <loa> maybe your driver have some debug options
[01:24] <loa> what i get from messing with wifi chips and drivers from that, that they work out of box and work awesome or they don't work at all or work very bad...
[01:29] <Aqui1a> I've got a problem with my sound; my microphone has stopped working. Can somebody help? :D
[01:30] <TechMonger> loa this wifi card works fine on windows ;p
[01:33] <loa> TechMonger, yeah that why i said "chips and drivers"
[01:36] <Aqui1a> Can somebody help me with my microphone problem? My microphone has stopped working on Ubuntu, for some reason. It works when I boot into Windows, but not on this...
[01:36] <Tex_Nick> Aqui1a: if you have it plugged into the back of PC & have recently unplugged it and then plugged it back in ... make sure it's plugged into the correct pink connector, cause some MoBo's have two pink audio connectors
[01:37] <Aqui1a> Tex_Nick, I have not unplugged it :) It's still in the correct slot
[01:37] <Tex_Nick> ok
[01:42] <TJ-> Aqui1a: check it isn't muted, from the command-line, with "alasmixer"
[01:43] <Aqui1a> It's 'Capture', right?
[01:43] <TJ-> Aqui1a: correct.
[01:43] <Aqui1a> It doesn't look muted
[01:43] <Aqui1a> The bar reaches the top, it says 100<>100 - looks fine
[01:44] <TJ-> Aqui1a: check also the Input selectors on that screen, if there are any, to ensure they are selecting the correct Mic
[01:45] <Aqui1a> TJ-: What do you mean by Input selectors?
[01:46] <silas1> hello,morning!
[01:46] <silas1> anyone know how to build a mac os in ubuntu system use vmware?
[01:47] <TJ-> I was hoping to show a screenshot, but the ksnapshot plugins have disappeared
[01:48] <Aqui1a> TJ-: Is it normal not to have any devices listed in 'Input' while on the Sound Control settings?
[01:50] <optimus__> hello
[01:50] <silas1> hello
[01:50] <spenmenn> hi
[01:50] <TJ-> Aqui1a: here we go http://imgur.com/QOSjFzj
[01:51] <TJ-> Aqui1a: I wouldn't have thought so, but I don't use Gnome/Unity, I use KDE, so I'm not clear about the Pulseaudio applet you have
[01:51] <Aqui1a> TJ-: Yes, but what exactly am I looking for?
[01:51] <Aqui1a> ah ok
[01:51] <Aqui1a> TJ-: So Pulse is responsible for my mic, not alsa?
[01:52] <silas1> ^_^
[01:52] <TJ-> Aqui1a: Look at the 3 columns on the right. For each of the "Input Source X" I can use the up/down keys to change from "Internal Mic" to "Mic"
[01:52] <optimus__> would like to be much involved in linux which programming language should i go for any ideas
[01:53] <TJ-> Aqui1a: ALSA = Advanced Linux Sound System. It is the kernel interface/drivers and optional userspace tools such as alsamixer, aplay, alsactl, etc.. PulseAudio is a sound-server; it provides a way to have multiple sound generating applications have their outputs mixed together into a single output device, rather than only one at a time.
[01:54] <TJ-> optimus__: For Linux - C is the only one :)
[01:54] <OneM_Industries> Hey, I am trying to run a VM, and AMD-V is apparently disabled. How would I enable this without rebooting my box?
[01:55] <optimus__> TJ- : great i have already started to pick some C stuff
[01:56] <TJ-> optimus__: read the source-code of existing projects you'll learn a lot. The Linux kernel code can actually be quite educational and you can dig as deep as you like
[01:57] <Hardtail> Hi all, fresh install of Ubuntu 15. When I use the command xdg-open file.pdf it will open the document but I get a GtK-CRITICAL inside the shell. Is this normal behavior?
[01:59] <Tex_Nick> Aqui1a: what application are you trying to use the microphone on ?
[02:00] <optimus__> TJ-  what about GUI  apps on linux  am talking about any distro , does C still great
[02:01] <Aqui1a> TJ-: I managed to fix it
[02:01] <OerHeks> Hardtail, yes, those are just warnings, nothing unusual
[02:02] <OerHeks> Hardtail, it is like opening gedit from terminal, scary, but harmless
[02:02] <Hardtail> OerHeks, thanks kindly. I am just now diving into my first book on using the Terminal, going to be fun.
[02:03] <TJ-> optimus__: There are a wide range of languages and libraries used for GUI. C++ and Vala are quite widespread.
[02:03] <OerHeks> Hardtail, tip: use  'xdg-open file.pdf & ' to get terminalprompt back
[02:04] <TJ-> optimus__: On the KDE side, C++ and the QT framework
[02:04] <naseath> Hi @here
[02:04] <OerHeks> !contribute
[02:05] <naseath> if someone can tell me my Ubuntu 14.04 most often hang while we open libreoffice
[02:05] <Hardtail> OerHeks, ah! I was using ctl-c. I will test this now, thanks.
[02:06] <xangua> naseath: what are you trying to open¿
[02:09] <naseath> Lirebreoffice writer also any application from libreoffice.
[02:10] <xangua> only opening libreoffice or any particular file with it¿
[02:11] <naseath> Yes, with file in it.
[02:14] <mman> hi I installed check_mk for monitoring. Now I want to uninstall and I get this while doing apt-get purge omd-1.20 : Stopping all OMD monitoring sites using omd version 1.20:
[02:14] <mman> update-alternatives: error: /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/omd corrupt: slave link same as main link /usr/bin/omd
[02:14] <mman> dpkg: error processing package omd-1.20 (--purge):
[02:14] <mman>  subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
[02:14] <mman> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:14] <mman>  omd-1.20
[02:16] <mman> sorry about the flood, I made a mistake doing copy/paste :)
[02:16] <OerHeks> !paste
[02:18] <optimus_> JT-: appreciate that  gud 2 knw
[02:19] <mman> hi I installed check_mk for monitoring. Now I want to uninstall and I get this while doing apt-get purge omd-1.20 : Stopping all OMD monitoring sites using omd version 1.20. http://paste.ubuntu.com/12325767/
[02:21] <zykotick9> mman: looks like a "bug" to me... good luck.
[02:22] <mman> zykotick9, nooooo hahahah I can't install/uninstall/update/upgrade anything without deleting that file
[02:23] <mman> how can I install other packages without having to uninstall that program?
[02:23]  * zykotick9 would certainly consider that a bug... YMMV
[02:25] <Ben64> mman: where did you get that package
[02:26] <mman> Ben64, from ubuntu repo and from http://omdistro.org
[02:26] <Ben64> so not from ubuntu repo
[02:26] <ken_b> I have a Presario 5750mmx2 Which is actually an HP business desktop. It has ATI realtek Audio built in. Here is the odd thing. It has a built in speaker and jack sensing of all jacks. However plugging into the line out jack on rear panel fails to emit any sounds. It does show speakers and when you choose that you get sound from the built in speaker. Is there a special setting to enable sound to go to the line out rear panel jack so I c
[02:26] <ken_b> an use my desktop speakers?
[02:27] <OerHeks> mman, you might need to stop omd https://mathias-kettner.de/checkmk_install_with_omd.html  sudo service omd stop ??
[02:27] <mman> OerHeks, I did that already
[02:28] <mman> Ben64, i used http://omdistro.org. You are right
[02:28] <Ben64> so go to them for support, its not an ubuntu issue
[02:30] <OerHeks> ken_b, open terminal: alsamixer # and see if you have sliders MM muted or down
[02:31] <ken_b> Then I also have a more common question. My top DVD rom drive when I put in media will not allow to eject using the drives button. It seems to want to lock in the media. You can go to the media icon on the desktop and choose eject but it would be nicer to just push the drives button instead.
[02:32] <seilorr> ken_b, and keep your speakers volume low (physically) while testing - so you will not blow em up
[02:33] <ken_b> The speakers are at 1/2 volume that is not the problem of course.
[02:33] <seilorr> ;)
[02:33] <momentus> lol
[02:33] <mman> Ben64, is there a way to tell ubuntu to "forget" that it has to remove that package and continue doing the rest?
[02:33] <Ben64> mman: can cause more problems
[02:33] <seilorr> i had hard times testing audio -no sound - and I put the volume up - and boom!
[02:36] <seilorr> soooo leim.........
[02:36] <ken_b> No they work fine if I pug into the headphone jack. Its that something needs to be set to tell it jack sense of the line out. It feels that the internal speakers are always plugged in. I guess my option will be to disconnect the internal speaker from the motherboard and see what happens then.
[02:37] <seilorr> ken_b, when you say " jack" im intepreting as youre using " jack" audio server - youre talking about physicall jacks on the cabin?
[02:37] <seilorr> " jack audio server/architecture"
[02:38] <ken_b> Yes physical jacks not software.
[02:39] <seilorr> ah... so its probably youre on ALSA just like OerHeks said above
[02:39] <ken_b> It switches to headphone jack ok. and then when you unplug goes back to the internal speaker.
[02:39] <seilorr> aham
[02:40] <ken_b> Yes I played with ALSA but got nowhere. Now to say this, Windows 10 has no problems but then that is a totally different animal of course.
[02:40] <OerHeks> ken_b, does your bios have a soundchip setting, AC'97 and Ati realtek ? turning to AC'97 might solve this
[02:41] <OerHeks> it is degrading, i know .. but a work-around for now
[02:41] <ken_b> No it has no AC97, just ATI Realtek HD audio onboard.
[02:42] <seilorr> think it has to do w/ "dolbies" and "surround" stuff
[02:42] <ken_b> No dolby or surround sound thanks.
[02:43] <seilorr> ken_b, what r the colors of the holes? r you trying on green?
[02:44] <seilorr> its all PL plugs (thin sticks ons) alright?
[02:44] <benwilber> how can I get nginx with nginx-rtmp module installed on Ubuntu?  packaged nginx doesn't have it
[02:44] <seilorr> no RCA stuff involved?
[02:45] <seilorr> (thin sticks ones)
[02:46] <ken_b> Yes green. This is a software problem but not something that ALSA mixer will compensate for. None of this is a hardware problem just that it does not seem to allow it to switch to the rear panel physical jack because the internal speaker is active. I think again I may try unplugging the internal mono speaker from the motherboard and give that a try.
[02:46] <OerHeks> ken_b, what Ati realtek hd exactly ? ' lspci ' should tell
[02:47] <seilorr> ken_b, you mean the PC speaker? (boot beep?)
[02:47] <ken_b> 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[02:48] <seilorr> ken_b, do you have a bios interface for the sound chip? - dunno, but think i may offer more options than regular "ON/OFF', since its have fancy auto switching features
[02:49] <naseath> @here anyone can help or tell me why ubuntu 14.04 always hang while we open libreoffice, Skype or thunderbird ?
[02:49] <seilorr> it
[02:49] <seilorr> naseath, dmesged?
[02:50] <ken_b> No the pc speaker is soldered to the motherboard. This being a business computer has an actual speaker that plugs into the motherboard and plays multimedia audio. Thus you can play stuff without any speakers plugged into the tower.
[02:50] <seilorr> ken_b, ok
[02:51] <ken_b> So I will try later to see if the unplug speaker trick works.
[02:52] <seilorr> ken_b, good luck
[02:52] <ken_b> So now to the only other oddball thing. Why does my top SATA DVD ROM drive want to lock the front panel eject, and how to fix that? The second DVD burner does not lock media into the drive.
[02:53] <seilorr> ken_b, it seem "too proprietary hardware" for me
[02:53] <seilorr> ken_b, good hacking on that
[02:54] <seilorr> ken_b, what you mean " want to lock the front panel eject"
[02:54] <seilorr> ?
[02:54] <yuhmon> ubuntu fi runnin mi yaad
[02:57] <seilorr> ken_b, i would try " eject /dev/scsi0" and "eject /dev/scsi1" and see which responds
[02:58] <seilorr> and " eject -t /dev/scsi0" and "eject -t /dev/scsi1" if successful
[02:58] <seilorr> its late
[02:58] <seilorr> cya guys
[02:59] <ken_b> eject: unable to find or open device for: `/dev/scsi0
[03:00] <ken_b> eject: unable to find or open device for: `/dev/scsi1'
[03:01] <OerHeks> most installations have /dev/dvd0
[03:02] <ken_b> eject: unable to find or open device for: `/dev/dvd0'
[03:04] <ken_b> sr0 and sr1 take but neither open up this way.
[03:06] <ken_b> I can opem it by right click on the desktop icon and left click eject. But never using the pushbutton on the front of the drive and only IF media is in the drive.
[03:06] <ken_b> The second drive does not do this, it works normally.
[03:08] <OerHeks> eject && eject -t
[03:08] <OerHeks> I don; t know a solution to unlock that drive :-(
[03:09] <ken_b> ok that works and causes it to open and then close again.
[03:09] <ken_b> But now again it is locked in.
[03:09] <drmr> need some assistance getting drivers for my ASUS PCE AC66 Wireless Card
[03:10] <drmr> The install CD for the drivers is not compatible. Ubuntu reads it is a Broadcom 4360 Network Adapter
[03:11] <OerHeks> !bcm
[03:13] <ken_b> So eject && eject -t causes it to open and then close immediately. Now I do have Virtual Box installed, does that do something to this drive?
[03:16] <OerHeks> ken_b, no. just 'eject' should open it and leave it open.
[03:16] <OerHeks> i learned this command when i started with linux
[03:17] <ken_b> In /dev I have sr0 sr1 and sr2. sr2 is an external USB combo drive. the issue narrows down to just sr0 then.
[03:19] <ken_b> How does one force it to redetect the sr0 drive? I suppose it is not all that big of a deal, but is just an annoyance for me.
[03:20] <ken_b> Without media in the drive I can open it from the front button just fine etc. Only when valid media is in the drive.
[03:20] <ken_b> ls
[03:21] <ken_b> oops sorry jumping around windows here.
[03:22] <ken_b> I do wonder if Audacious or some sort of app is trying to control the drive when media is present?
[03:23] <tron103> I've installed ubuntu-server 14.04 with the 3.16.0-30-generic kernel and a custom network driver that is needed. Is there a way to build an initrd/kernel combo for this version? The downloaded netboot installer is an older version of the kernel and won't accept my kernel modules.
[03:31] <ken_b> Odd audacious went bonkers back there and forced me to do hard reboot.
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:35] <ken_b> So I am back to the sr0 issue still. Why it is locking media in the sr0 drive.
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> its reccomended to update your system soon, as new security holes have been patched
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> !usn
[03:37] <ken_b> Well maybe there is too many programs dealing with dvd and I might have clicked on some option that I should not have.
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> everyone update as soon as possible
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> !dvd | ken_b
[03:38] <ken_b> The bot is concerned about playing DVD movies. Thats comical.
[03:43] <ken_b> So what setting controls locking media in a dvd or cd drive? Only sr0 is being affected.
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> ken_b: try eject from terminal
[03:46] <ken_b> eject && eject -t will open and then close the tray.
[03:47] <Aqui1a> Good evening. I'm having a persistent issue with my two monitors. No matter how many times I change the settings, they keep switching back to the incorrect setting; the left one behaving as if it's on the right, and the right one behaving as if it's on the left... Each time I restart, that is. Could someone help?
[03:48] <ken_b> doing a eject /dev/sr0 -t does nothing nor does eject -t /dev/sr0
[03:49] <karaZorEl> Aqui1a: What's the video card?
[03:49] <Aqui1a> GTX 460
[03:50] <ken_b> however doing a eject /dev/sr0 works, it opens and stays open.
[03:50] <Aqui1a> karaZorEl: It hasn't always behaved like this... I don't know what's happened. Again, NVIDIA GTX 460.
[03:50] <ken_b> something then is disabling the drives front panel button when media is in the drive. Otherwise not.
[03:51] <ken_b> So the issue is only when there is valid media in the drive.
[03:54] <Silenced> Guys i am not able to partition my hard drive while installing ubuntu . Please help me out
[03:54] <karaZorEl> Silenced: i had the same thing recently, would love an answer(for laptop)
[03:55] <Silenced> karaZorEl : I tried installing fedora yesterday and after that i am not able to partition my hard drive
[03:56] <ken_b> LVM?
[03:57] <Bashing-om> Silenced: Are you encountering the 4 primary partition limit of MBR partitioning scheme ?
[03:58] <ken_b> Will gparted allow you to resize it? And then add partitions?
[03:59] <karaZorEl> Silenced: I dunno, I tried arch and it worked perfect, but ubuntu refuses with an error stating simply it can't partition the drive. Ran S.M.A.R.T. tests on all my drives, reconnected, etc, no dice. :/
[03:59] <Silenced> Bashing-om : Its kind of like mapping and stuff . I dont know exactly . I have only 1 TB hard drive and it shows 2 partition each greater than 920+GB
[04:00] <Aqui1a> What time is best to come on here for help?
[04:00] <Silenced> And i am not able to perform any operations on any of these partitions
[04:02] <karaZorEl> in my case ubuntu will remove partitions, but won't create them on my laptop. it does that then returns an error. it's frustrating.
[04:03] <ken_b> Ok moving onward, is there a script one can add to startup to mount an afp share but with a delay of like 1 minute? PcManFM I can bookmark the afp share, and it works fine to open it but I want it to open the bookmark on startup after a slight delay, to allow things to settle down first.
[04:05] <Silenced> karaZorEl : Are u running arch now ?
[04:05] <ken_b> In other words I want to add the bookmark to the desktop or to AWN but not sure if it can be.
[04:06] <Aqui1a> Could somebody tell me if there's another good place I can get help with Ubuntu issues? It seems a bit quiet in here! lol
[04:07] <Bashing-om> Silenced: "dmraid" signatures ?? What returns ' sudo dmraid -r -c ' ? On a desk top you will have to install the tool .
[04:07] <hrobjartur> hi all
[04:07] <hrobjartur> I just set up two monitors, 'extended mode'.
[04:08] <hrobjartur> Whenever I hit ctrl-alt-t  to open terminal, the new terminal appears on my other monitor, not the one with mouse in view
[04:08] <hrobjartur> is there a way to change this behaviour... this also happens when I open webbrowers,  it gets sent to wrong window
[04:08] <hrobjartur> *monitor
[04:08] <ken_b> Grab the window and slide to the other monitor, then close and reopen?
[04:09] <hrobjartur> ken_b, hmm lets see.
[04:10] <hrobjartur> ken_b,  hmm, thats actually working now
[04:10] <hrobjartur> ken_b,  it appears that I have to have a window open,  right now I have xirc
[04:10] <ken_b> Apps remember their location and position of last use.
[04:11] <hrobjartur> ken_b,  it appears that mouse context is not used, unless I have an active window, then new window gets opened on same screen -- otherwise, it opens I guess as you say, wherever it was last time
[04:11] <ken_b> Compiz might allow you to alter that. Zorin seems to like to put windows into the open spaces or usually top left on my system.
[04:12] <hrobjartur> I have another issue,  I have one 1080p monitor, and one 4k monitor.
[04:12] <karaZorEl> Silenced: sorry for late response, atm I'm running dual boot win/osx, and ubuntu in vmware. I liked arch and all but it had a few issues for me.
[04:13] <hrobjartur> I am able to scale content on 4k monitor in the display settings -- however, this also affects all content - especially fonts- on my 1080p monitor
[04:13] <Aqui1a> Good evening. I'm having a persistent issue with my two monitors. No matter how many times I change the settings, they keep switching back to the incorrect setting; the left one behaving as if it's on the right, and the right one behaving as if it's on the left... Each time I restart, that is. Could someone help?
[04:13] <hrobjartur> I just skipped it, not useful it seems unless I have only 4k.
[04:13] <Silenced> karaZorEl Okay man !
[04:14] <unixman> All Ubuntu users must see this video about backdoors in Ubuntu: http://2ch.pm/b/src/101509782/14417533733020.webm
[04:15] <ken_b> Not sure if you can scale fonts per display. Anyone else have an answer? I know you can of course adjust resolution of each display.
[04:16] <shamurai> unixman: do people actually follow links that look like that?
[04:18] <unixman> http://2ch.pm/b/src/101509782/14417533733020.webm - http://2ch.pm/b/src/101509782/14417533733020.webm - http://2ch.pm/b/src/101509782/14417533733020.webm
[04:18] <unixman> http://2ch.pm/b/src/101509782/14417533733020.webm ! http://2ch.pm/b/src/101509782/14417533733020.webm ! http://2ch.pm/b/src/101509782/14417533733020.webm
[04:18] <unixman> http://2ch.pm/b/src/101509782/14417533733020.webm ? http://2ch.pm/b/src/101509782/14417533733020.webm ? http://2ch.pm/b/src/101509782/14417533733020.webm
[04:18] <unixman> All Ubuntu users must see this video about backdoors in Ubuntu: http://2ch.pm/b/src/101509782/14417533733020.webm
[04:18] <ken_b> Is there a app like gigolo for afp shares rather than smb shares? I.E. to automount afp shares at startup?
[04:18] <unixman> http://2ch.pm/b/src/101509782/14417533733020.webm - http://2ch.pm/b/src/101509782/14417533733020.webm - http://2ch.pm/b/src/101509782/14417533733020.webm
[04:18] <unixman> http://2ch.pm/b/src/101509782/14417533733020.webm ! http://2ch.pm/b/src/101509782/14417533733020.webm ! http://2ch.pm/b/src/101509782/14417533733020.webm
[04:19] <Aqui1a> That unixman guy was a real tit...
[04:19] <karaZorEl> Can you guys ban unixman, that link was... not even awful, it was beyond that.
[04:19] <shamurai> Aqui1a: right...
[04:19] <karaZorEl> That should be a permaban.
[04:20] <ken_b> I guess I would best to just go to the PcManFM site and ask how to put bookmark to the desktop, which I see no option to do that in PcManFM.
[04:20] <shamurai> ken_b: I don't think you can with pcmanfm by itself.
[04:21] <Aqui1a> I'm having a persistent issue with my two monitors. No matter how many times I change the settings, they keep switching back to the incorrect setting; the left one behaving as if it's on the right, and the right one behaving as if it's on the left... Each time I restart, that is. Could someone help?
[04:22] <ken_b> No you cannot, but well I just want to put the share into startup perhaps with a cron delay, as it works fine otherwise. Just wanting to avoid doing it on every restart.
[04:23] <ken_b> Once you open the bookmark, it stays on the desktop.
[04:23] <shamurai> ken_b: what distro are you using?
[04:24] <Aqui1a> What does it mean if nobody responds to me? Have I been blacklisted? lol
[04:25] <shamurai> ken_b: you might try passing --desktop to pcmanfm when you launch it. IE pcmanfm --desktop
[04:25] <shamurai> Aqui1a: Are they the same connector type? DVI,HDMI?
[04:26] <Aqui1a> shamurai: Nope. However, it's only recently become an issue. It wasn't always like this.
[04:27] <Aqui1a> Shamurai: One has a longer connector, the other has a shorter connector. lol I don't know their names. Neither is HDMI.
[04:27] <Aqui1a> shamurai: One is DVI and the other is VGA.
[04:28] <shamurai> Aqui1a: Try switching the cables.
[04:28] <Aqui1a> shamurai: I tried that, and it didn't fix it.
[04:28] <ken_b> Wow ok I am way off then, its nautilus not pcmanfm. Sorry too many Linuxes. This is in Zorin not Ubuntu
[04:29] <shamurai> Aqui1a: I mean swap the dvi and vga cables between the monitor.
[04:29] <Aqui1a> shamurai: The only difference now is that GRUB2 opens on my left monitor instead of my right.
[04:29] <ken_b> So I guess try nautilus --desktop?
[04:29] <Aqui1a> shamurai: Yes I did that
[04:29] <shamurai> ken_b: Nautilus manages the desktop by default.
[04:29] <Aqui1a> shamurai: I swapped the connectors on the monitors. That didn't work, so I returned them, and swapped the connectors on the computer itself. Neither attempt fixed it.
[04:30] <shamurai> Aqui1a: What distro are you on?
[04:30] <Aqui1a> shamurai: 14.04
[04:31] <shamurai> Aqui1a: do you have a nvidia/amd graphics card?
[04:32] <Aqui1a> shamurai: I have an NVIDIA GTX 460
[04:32] <shamurai> Aqui1a: what driver are you using?
[04:33] <karaZorEl> Aqui1a: did you use nvidia-settings?
[04:34] <shamurai> Aqui1a: Yeah try using nvidia-settings instead of the built-in
[04:34] <topdugz> karaZorEl: like why
[04:35] <Aqui1a> shamurai: I'm using 346.82 from nvidia-346 (proprietary, tested), which I believe are the recommended drivers
[04:36] <Aqui1a> shamurai, karaZorEl: I've tried using nvidia-settings. I applied settings and saved to xorg.conf (or w/e the file's called) and it still didn't remember.
[04:36] <topdugz> Aqui1a: YOU NEED modprobeset
[04:36] <karaZorEl> Aqui1a: is it using the nvidia driver? check the xorg.conf file? hrm
[04:41] <Aqui1a> karaZorEl: I'm looking at the xorg.conf file now, but I don't know what I'm meant to be looking for.
[04:41] <Aqui1a> Also, topdugz, what is modprobeset?
[04:58] <KingOfOOP> Installed wine at last !
[05:00] <sloantothebone_> Hi KingOfOOP
[05:04] <madmangunr> install playonlinux, q4wine, and winetricks
[05:04] <Finetundar> madmangunr: what is q4wine? Is that something new?
[05:04] <madmangunr> handles installing things in wine a little better..  kinda like a wine manager
[05:06] <madmangunr> right click what you want to install and choose q4wine to act as a windows install manager.
[05:08] <KingOfOOP> sloantothebone_: Hi
[05:10] <madmangunr> Hey King
[05:17] <KingOfOOP> sloantothebone_: Ran an application , but no result...
[05:17] <sloantothebone_> KingOfOOP, run the application in a terminal and tell us what you get with a pastebin.com link
[05:18] <KingOfOOP> sloantothebone_: Give me the command
[05:19] <sloantothebone_> KingOfOOP, the command is your application
[05:19] <sloantothebone_> What application are u running
[05:19] <KingOfOOP> SLADE
[05:23] <KingOfOOP> sloantothebone_: Are you online ?
[05:23] <lizhi> Who?
[05:24] <sloantothebone_> KingOfOOP, No im using magic to connect to irc
[05:24] <KingOfOOP> LOL
[05:24] <KingOfOOP> sloantothebone_: Because i got no respond after giving the name of application...
[05:24] <tnkhanh> KingOfOOP, sloantothebone_ is using telepathy to connect to irc
[05:25] <KingOfOOP> D:)
[05:25] <sloantothebone_> KingOfOOP, what is the name of the application
[05:26] <lizhi> I'm installing ubuntu justnow，but it faild…
[05:28] <lizhi> Now i can't make a new partition
[05:28] <lizhi> Can anybody help me？
[05:28] <sloantothebone_> Lizhi, try using the gParted operating system
[05:29] <sloantothebone_> then u can use gparted to edit partitions
[05:29] <lizhi> Oh sorry，let me google it.
[05:29] <sloantothebone_> And, sorry about the ubuntu installation failure :/
[05:29] <CallOfDooty> GTFM!
[05:30] <sloantothebone_> ...
[05:30] <somsip> lizhi: what happened when it failed. Can you give details. GParted is just an application to help partition disks.
[05:30] <lizhi> Em…
[05:31] <lizhi> I force to quit it when it was running...
[05:31] <somsip> lizhi: did you restart it?
[05:31] <icecube45> alright, for some reason ubuntu is blocking port 443.. no idea why.. i have a thing listening for any trafic.. but I cant connect from my internal network.. ufw is disabled, and iptables is allowing it..
[05:32] <CallOfDooty> nslookup -p443 google.com
[05:32] <CallOfDooty> not nslookup
[05:32] <lizhi> Yes,then the windows can't start.
[05:32] <CallOfDooty> nmap*
[05:32] <somsip> lizhi: so you were attempting to install ubuntu to dual boot with windows, it failed and you terminated the install, and now you just want windows back?
[05:33] <icecube45> CallOfDooty, connected fine
[05:33] <lizhi> no no no
[05:33] <somsip> lizhi: so, give details
[05:34] <lizhi> I install it again...
[05:34] <icecube45> CallOfDooty, but my desktop cannot connect via telnet/nmap to 443 being hosted on the ubuntu machine
[05:34] <lizhi> then windows can start.
[05:34] <icecube45> anything on the same machine can connect
[05:35] <KingOfOOP> sloantothebone_: SLADE3
[05:35] <lizhi> but when the machine stat,ubuntu cannot start
[05:36] <lizhi> it just only start windows .
[05:36] <somsip> lizhi: you said you terminated the install. Did you install again successful after that?
[05:36] <lizhi> no.
[05:36] <somsip> lizhi: it won't start if you didn't install it.
[05:37] <magnolia_> print screen button not working.....mappings correct in settings/keyboard/shortcuts (vivid)
[05:38] <lizhi> when i install it,it says that the disk space is not enough.
[05:39] <somsip> lizhi: how much does it say you need, how much does it say you have?
[05:39] <lizhi> then i want to make a new disk partition in windows.
[05:39] <somsip> lizhi: what method are you using to install ubuntu?
[05:40] <lizhi> i need 3.5G,it did't say how much i need.
[05:40] <sloantothebone_> KingOfOOP, type into the terminal 'slade' and paste the results into pastebin
[05:40] <lizhi> USBdisk
[05:40] <magnolia_> print screen button not working.....mappings correct in settings/keyboard/shortcuts (vivid), strangely alt+prt-sc button is working others not including prt-sc, ctrl, shift
[05:40] <somsip> lizhi: your previous response does not make sense "i need 3.5G,it did't say how much i need"
[05:41] <KingOfOOP> sloantothebone_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12326553/
[05:41] <lizhi> sorry.
[05:41] <lizhi> I didn't speek english well...
[05:41] <KingOfOOP> sloantothebone_: Notice that slade is in the program files folder...
[05:42] <somsip> lizhi: what is your first language
[05:42] <lizhi> chinese.
[05:43] <somsip> !zh | lizhi (you could try this channel, but we will try to help if you explain better)
[05:43] <lizhi> ok.
[05:43] <lizhi> thank you.
[05:44] <somsip> lizhi: but if you want to create a partition using windows, you need advise from a windows channel
[05:44] <lizhi> ok.
[05:46] <sloantothebone_> KingOfOOP, either CD to the program files folder with slade in it, or install a repo from drdteam.org
[05:47] <bartur> I have two options ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa   or xorg-edgers
[05:47] <somsip> !ppa | bartur
[05:47] <bartur> somsip, thanks
[05:48] <bartur> somsip,  I needed to install nvidia-352 to support my computer screen
[05:48] <bartur> somsip,  vanilla repo was not enough
[05:48] <lizhi> well,no one answer me in #ubuntu-cn
[05:48] <somsip> bartur: then those do sound like your options (from what I know), but bear in mind they are unsupported
[05:49] <bartur> I wonder if anyone has experience of edgers vs the other one.
[05:49] <somsip> bartur: referred to here: http://www.webupd8.org/2015/08/new-official-proprietary-gpu-drivers.html
[05:50] <bartur> somsip, right, although xorg-edgers has existed longer
[05:50] <bartur> somsip,  I found out that perhas cuda runtime was not correctly installed with these updates.
[05:51] <magnolia_> print screen button not working.....mappings correct in settings/keyboard/shortcuts (vivid), strangely alt+prt-sc button is working others not including prt-sc, ctrl, shift
[05:54] <magnolia_> anyone ^^^
[05:55] <icecube45> huh
[05:55] <icecube45> so
[05:55] <icecube45> fun..
[05:55] <icecube45> I've lost a service
[05:55] <icecube45> that is.. i dont know where its running from
[05:55] <icecube45> or how its running
[05:55] <rct> hi
[05:56] <rct> op
[05:58] <KingOfOOP> magnolia_: Type 'Keyboard' in Ubuntu Search box
[05:58] <KingOfOOP> After that , go to the shourtcut tab
[05:58] <magnolia_> KingOfOOP: yes, after
[05:58] <KingOfOOP> *Shortcut
[05:58] <magnolia_> ok
[05:59] <magnolia_> KingOfOOP: now what ?
[05:59] <KingOfOOP> Check the Screenshots part
[06:00] <KingOfOOP> Do you see the word 'Print' after the 'Take a screenshot' ?
[06:00] <magnolia_> KingOfOOP: http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=0885d0c
[06:01] <Foxhoundz> huh
[06:01] <KingOfOOP> magnolia_: Do you have Windows ?
[06:01] <magnolia_> KingOfOOP: no
[06:01] <KingOfOOP> This can be a problem with the button itself
[06:02] <thehumanelement> morning
[06:02] <KingOfOOP> For example It doesn't send the command to the OS.
[06:03] <magnolia_> KingOfOOP: alt-prt-sc is working fine, ctrl+, shift+, and button prt-sc itself are not working, furthermore, they used to work fine in previous editions, its old laptop
[06:03] <somsip> magnolia_: check for hardware errors with xev, but it seems unlikely from what you've said so far
[06:03] <thehumanelement> (probably dumb Q) can you install some random flavour of 15.10 alpha/beta and then happily install ubuntu-desktop, if you're feeling confident? Or is even that not available?
[06:03] <somsip> !15.10 | thehumanelement
[06:04] <KingOfOOP> magnolia_: Which version of ubuntu ?
[06:04] <magnolia_> somsip: how to check for hhardware errors ? physically everything everything is fine and worked fine with previous ubuntu versions also
[06:04] <magnolia_> KingOfOOP: vivid vervet - 15.04
[06:04] <lizhi> somsip :http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=0424f6b
[06:04] <thehumanelement> thanks bot, you are lovely
[06:04] <lizhi> that's it.
[06:04] <somsip> magnolia_: from what you've said, it doesn't sound like the key isn't working. But run xev in a terminal if you want to absolutely discount it
[06:05] <somsip> lizhi: that's why #ubuntu-cn may be better for you. That's difficult for most of us to read in here
[06:06] <lizhi> oh...but no one answer me there...
[06:07] <hot6> Problem: bluetooth headphones on 14.04 laptop and 14.10 desktop constantly go into Telephony/Duplex mode (single channel poor quality) rather than High Fidelity mode, sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. When it doesn't the sound settings page is no help, refuses to go to high fidelity.
[06:07] <magnolia_> somsip: will xev stop ?
[06:07] <somsip> lizhi: then it is difficult for me to help
[06:07] <somsip> magnolia_: when you close it, yes
[06:07] <hot6> is there a way to disable telephony/duplex on a bluetooth device so it never enters that mode?
[06:08] <somsip> hot6: how is that a ubuntu support issue?
[06:08] <magnolia_> somsip: should i close it now ? and how to get all its result in paste ?
[06:08] <lizhi> somsip:oh,thank you.
[06:08] <hot6> somsip: it's Ubuntu and it's not working like it should across two versions?
[06:08] <hot6> somsip: where should I go with my query?
[06:08] <somsip> magnolia_: is there a need to? Just press the prt-screen key and see if it registers in xev. If it does, the key(board) is okay. Move on to the next possible issue
[06:09] <somsip> hot6: fair enough - sounded more like BT than ubuntu but I know nothing about BT anyway
[06:11] <magnolia_> somsip: alt+prt-sc seems to return msg PropertyNotify event, serial 34, synthetic NO, window 0x3e00001,     atom 0x140 (_NET_WM_STATE), time 13267251, state PropertyNewValue
[06:11] <somsip> magnolia_: so it registers the key. It's not hardware. Move on
[06:11] <magnolia_> somsip: but prt-sc button alone along with shift+ and ctrl+ are not showing any signs
[06:12] <magnolia_> somsip: ^^^
[06:12] <C0r3> When we run firefox through terminal, we terminal window remains active by displaying the info about the program running. And when we close the terminal then the firefox window also shuts down. Is there any way to avoid that?
[06:12] <somsip> magnolia_: doesn't sound right to me
[06:13] <magnolia_> somsip: ??
[06:13] <somsip> !nohup | C0r3
[06:13] <somsip> C0r3: http://askubuntu.com/questions/264257/how-to-open-an-application-in-terminal-and-detach-it
[06:14] <C0r3> somsip: Thank you.
[06:15] <KingOfOOP> Installing application from software center gives me the following error : http://imgur.com/ebDaCdP
[06:15] <somsip> magnolia_: remind me - version of ubuntu any desktop environment?
[06:16] <magnolia_> somsip: vivid vervet - 15.04 with default environment
[06:17] <KingOfOOP> anyone ?
[06:17] <magnolia_> on HP pavilion g6 series model 1200tu somsip
[06:17] <somsip> magnolia_: read this then. Refers to earlier version of ubuntu, but specifically to HP. Maybe some clues in here but I don't have time to read it for you https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-settings-daemon/+bug/1282649
[06:18] <hateball> KingOfOOP: can you run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" in a terminal and then retry?
[06:18] <magnolia_> KingOfOOP: http://askubuntu.com/questions/218961/software-cant-be-installed-or-removed-because-the-authentication-service-is-no
[06:23] <magnolia_> somsip: page suggested by you says fix released but how to install the fix and from where ? the page is too technical for me
[06:24] <somsip> magnolia_: As I said, I don't have time to read it for you. I've given you a reasonable lead so you may have to research from there
[06:24] <magnolia_> somsip: also its a surprsie if its an old bug coz I never had this problem with older ubuntu releases, never
[06:25] <magnolia_> somsip: yes, just tell me from where to download it, rest I'll read everything
[06:29] <KingOfOOP> magnolia_: Same result
[06:31] <KingOfOOP> hateball: Result of 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' : http://paste.ubuntu.com/12326677/
[06:33] <Ben64> KingOfOOP: line 27 is bad
[06:33] <Ben64> also 40, 41, 66, 69, 71 and maybe more
[06:34] <KingOfOOP> Ben64: Why ?
[06:34] <Ben64> because those aren't for ubuntu
[06:34] <KingOfOOP> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:34] <KingOfOOP> What ?!!!
[06:34] <Ben64> spoiler - debian isn't ubuntu
[06:35] <KingOfOOP> What to do now ?
[06:35] <KingOfOOP> @Ben64
[06:35] <Ben64> i'd say remove all the non-ubuntu repositories, don't know why you added them
[06:35] <magnolia_> remove extra sources and update again
[06:36] <KingOfOOP> magnolia_: Which extra sources
[06:36] <KingOfOOP> ?
[06:36] <magnolia_> debian, drdteam etc
[06:36] <derthi> Hi, I want to extract a file from an archive called a.tar.gz, located at results/output.png to the directory I'm in (i.e., if I run the command from home/user/Documents I want the file to be at home/user/Documents/output-renamed.png). Current attempts results in extraction to home/user/Documents/results/output.png ( tar --extract --file=a.tar.gz -C / results/output.png )
[06:36] <KingOfOOP> Ben64: Which ones ?
[06:36] <Ben64> what magnolia said
[06:37] <KingOfOOP> magnolia_: drdteam was for installing Slade , Zdoom , etc...
[06:38] <magnolia_> KingOfOOP: first remove them and update and install any app from software centre and see if it works, solve install problem first then look for others
[06:38] <KingOfOOP> ok
[06:39] <KingOfOOP> magnolia_: Cant uncheck some of them ...
[06:40] <magnolia_> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list remove them manually
[06:48] <KingOfOOP> magnolia_: Result was http://paste.ubuntu.com/12326723/
[06:49] <magnolia_> KingOfOOP: uncheck cd-rom source too
[06:50] <KingOfOOP> magnolia_: Unable to uncheck it ...
[06:50] <magnolia_> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:51] <KingOfOOP> magnolia_: Where is the cd-rom source ?
[06:53] <KingOfOOP> magnolia_: My sources.list : http://paste.ubuntu.com/12326740/
[06:53] <magnolia_> 1st line
[07:05] <Aqui1a> Hello, I need help.. again.. I've tried to update to 15.04, but I'm having what seems a serious issue. Towards the end of the upgrade, the screen went black, with lines of text appearing every few seconds. This is still happening... :( What do I do?
[07:07] <KingOfOOP> How to update my ubuntu to latest version ? Mine is 14.04
[07:09] <hadi> Hello everyone
[07:09] <minitrue> KingOfOOP: you cant upgrade from 14.04 to 15.10 with apt-get upgrade, you first have to upgrade to 14.10 and then to 15.04
[07:10] <KingOfOOP> minitrue: How ?
[07:10] <minitrue> KingOfOOP: in system settings you have to go to software and updates
[07:10] <somsip> KingOfOOP: common advice is to stick with LTS unless you have a specific reason to jump to a non-LTS
[07:11] <minitrue> then in your updates tab in " notify me of new ubuntu version" select for any new version
[07:11] <Logan> somsip: maybe for servers
[07:11] <somsip> Logan: no, it's common advice given here to all users
[07:11] <Logan> not sure how I feel about that
[07:11] <minitrue> after that select software updater from dash
[07:12] <minitrue> and then is like a regular upgrade
[07:12] <minitrue> first to non lts (14.10)
[07:12] <KingOfOOP> somsip: isn't 15.04 LTS ?
[07:12] <KingOfOOP> Ubuntu has a bug . Links gets deleted after reboot.
[07:13] <minitrue> KingOfOOP:  nop
[07:13] <somsip> KingOfOOP: no, 14.04 is current, 16.04 will be next
[07:14] <minitrue> 14.10 is not longer supported :P so once you upgrade to 14.10 you should immediately upgrade to 15.04
[07:17] <KingOfOOP> magnolia_: Gave me errors after almost 230 get command
[07:18] <magnolia_> paste
[07:26] <KingOfOOP> magnolia_: I think it was a connection error
[07:28] <magnolia> ok, try again
[07:48] <Aqui2a> Hello
[07:48] <makara> hi.why can't I see a listing of /tmp? my server just hangs. Other dirs are fine
[07:48] <Aqui2a> I've just upgraded to 15.04, and I have no sound.
[07:48] <Aqui2a> Could someone help?
[07:48] <makara> Aqui2a, what app makes the sound?
[07:49] <Aqui2a> makara: Sorry?
[07:49] <somsip> makara: please don't randomly ask people questions if they are not already helping you. It's confusing, and rude
[07:50] <silentkiller_192> hello all
[07:50] <Aqui2a> makara: I... nothing. Nothing is making any sound.
[07:50] <silentkiller_192> hola
[07:50] <somsip> makara: erm...actually I just saw the relevance in what you said. Sorry - please put it down to too much coffee...
[07:50] <makara> Aqui2a, ubuntu doesn't make any sounds. Are you running vlc or rhythmbox?
[07:50] <Aqui2a> bonjourno!
[07:50] <silentkiller_192> hi every one i m new here
[07:51] <makara> somsip: no sweat
[07:51] <somsip> silentkiller_192: hi - do you have a support question
[07:51] <Aqui2a> makara: Nothing is making any sound lol Youtube, VLC, system sounds... nothing.
[07:52] <Aqui2a> makara: In Sound settings, there is only one device listed in output devices, and it's not my onboard sound card, which it was prior to upgrading. And now, I have no devices in Input.
[07:52] <makara> Aqui2a, what do your sound setting look like? Is there a device in "Play sound through"
[07:52] <makara> i see
[07:52] <Aqui2a> :)
[07:53] <Aqui2a> makara: It's bloody annoying... I've had so many issues, that when I try to fix them, it just causes more xD
[07:53] <Aqui2a> makara: So yeah, no sound devices. No sound at all.
[07:54] <makara> Aqui2a, if it's not your onboard sound card, what is it?
[07:54] <Aqui2a> makara: HDMI/DisplayPort - Built-in Audio
[07:55] <makara> so it wants to play through your screen
[07:56] <leeyaa> hello
[07:56] <leeyaa> i think default Ubuntu script for Nginx does not detect when deamon has not started
[07:57] <leeyaa> https://bpaste.net/show/b1f1f246800b
[07:57] <leeyaa> i've only removed the /dev/null part from do_start to see the error
[07:57] <makara> Aqui2a, nothing comes to mind. Try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:57] <leeyaa> can anyone advice how to fix it ?
[07:57] <Aqui2a> makara: I will do, thanks
[07:57] <leeyaa> it breaks my scripts as currently it does not return proper error code
[07:59] <leeyaa> os is 14.04lts
[08:00] <Ben64> leeyaa: doesn't look like the right way to start it
[08:00] <leeyaa> Ben64: how come  i just execute /etc/init.d/nginx start
[08:00] <JustMozzy> Good morning. Can anyone help me setup a VPN client with l2tp over ipsec?
[08:01] <leeyaa> same thing happens with default version, it suppresses the error, returns 0 and nginx is not up
[08:01] <Ben64> leeyaa: get out of root and back to your user, then do 'sudo service nginx start'
[08:01] <leeyaa> Ben64: im executing it only as root
[08:01] <Ben64> ok so you didn't listen to me at all
[08:02] <leeyaa> https://bpaste.net/show/c543fc666218
[08:02] <leeyaa> why would i need to run it as regular user ?
[08:03] <Ben64> you might want to check what sudo does
[08:03] <leeyaa> dude it will happen the same thing
[08:03] <leeyaa> ok ill do that now
[08:04] <k1l_> leeyaa: (2: No such file or directory)
[08:04] <k1l_>   isnt that clear?
[08:04] <leeyaa> k1l_: i know why it is not starting. my question is why the init.d script does not return error code, instead it returns 0 for no error
[08:05] <leeyaa> besides it prints the error only because ive removed /dev/null redirection
[08:05] <charllie> Hello guys I ve got one simple question is the page theodinproject.com is reliable and will teach me well the web developing ?
[08:08] <k1l_> !ot | charllie
[08:08] <Aqui2a> makara: Those didn't help. My sound still doesn't work.
[08:08] <leeyaa> Ben64: there you go https://bpaste.net/show/a7565dbc0d1b
[08:08] <leeyaa> with default init.d for nginx
[08:08] <tinyhippo> !guidelines
[08:08] <leeyaa> deamon is not up, init.d script returns 0
[08:09] <k1l_> leeyaa: seems to be a common nginx issue
[08:09] <leeyaa> k1l_: it is init.d script issue...
[08:10] <leeyaa> meaning /etc/init.d/nginx is missing proper error handling
[08:12] <Desu> systemd is so much nicer
[08:16] <xbixx> Is it possible to resize an Ubuntu partition installed on a VMWare instance without using a livecd and without using X?
[08:17] <leeyaa> well
[08:17] <leeyaa> so how to fix that
[08:17] <leeyaa> or where to report a bug
[08:18] <leeyaa> xbixx: it is
[08:18] <brucelee> if i have 2 repositories in sources.list, and both repositories contains the package "foo", which repo will "apt-get install foo" download from?
[08:18] <xbixx> leeyaa but from what i understand i cannot resize a mounted partition. I need to resize the partition the OS is on
[08:19] <k1l_> !bug | leeyaa lika always
[08:19] <k1l_> brucelee: the one with the higher version number (if there is no priority set)
[08:20] <leeyaa> you can use the host to resize it
[08:20] <Hejkki> Where can i report problems of HP closed-source printer drivers?
[08:20] <k1l_> Hejkki: well, closed source will be HP then, since there is no one besides HP who can make changes
[08:21] <wils0n> http://45.55.248.70/hFpY9b
[08:21] <wils0n> sarahs nudes got dropped! http://45.55.248.70/hFpY9b
[08:22] <zero> hi
[08:22] <brucelee> exit
[08:22] <Guest87612> hi all
[08:23] <brucelee> thanks for the answer kil
[08:23] <leeyaa> k1l_: it is a server related problem. don't have apport or ubuntu-bug, can't really install them. launchpad the only way to report it ?
[08:24] <k1l_> leeyaa: yes.
[08:26] <shakhazulu> hey guys
[08:33] <OnceMe> hey why do I get problem/crash occured
[08:33] <OnceMe> this /opt/teamviewer/tv_bin/teamviewerd crash
[08:33] <OnceMe> and it says package: teamviewer (not installed)
[08:34] <OnceMe> which is lie, I just started teamviewer via command line
[08:46] <zhouxb> hello
[08:47] <aotea> hi
[08:47] <robson> hi
[08:47] <robson> :)
[08:49] <chrisss123456> does anyone succesfully use imagej? mine bugs like crazy (windows are tiny and unresizable, scan doesnt work, etc)...
[08:54] <somsip> chrisss123456: try asking the software maintainers if you have problems. Is it an official ubuntu package?
[08:54] <chrisss123456> somsip: i think so. does that mean just sending them an email?
[08:55] <somsip> !find imagej
[08:55] <k1l_> !bug | chrisss123456
[08:55] <somsip> !info imagej
[08:55] <somsip> chrisss123456: it does look like an official package if you installed it from the repo. Did you?
[08:55] <chrisss123456> somsip: i did! i'll try what k1l_ said
[09:12] <vlt> Hello. The universe is less than 1025 years old, according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto.  There’s a problem in https://help.ubuntu.com/moin_static193/light/css/reset.css where in line 3 the element “sup” is set to “vertical-align: baseline;” and „font-size: 100%;“ which presents 10<sup>25</sup> as 1025.  Where to file a bug?
[09:13] <cfhowlett> vlt, only 1025 year old website???  lame.
[09:14] <tawan_> the universe came to be at 10:25am today, most people were quite surprised. One said "whoa"
[09:15] <tawan_> guess the 25 is meant to be superscript
[09:15] <amaro> asd
[09:15] <amaro> lol
[09:16] <mssmss> hello
[09:16] <amaro> hi
[09:16] <mssmss> the shutdown button on the menu shows all users listed...how do I remove them >
[09:16] <mssmss> edubuntu 14.04.3
[09:17] <amaro> what is this ?
[09:17] <cfhowlett> !topic | amaro
[09:21] <soyos> vlt: channel #ubuntu-website ?
[09:22] <newMeta> Can I copy the deb files (/var/cache/apt/archives/ ) from one computer and install them on an offline computer?
[09:23] <somsip> !offline | newMeta
[09:23] <Shogo> in 15.04 is there a default config file that I can throttle the speed with which the fan runs? found it a while back, however I can't find it now ( neither know the name if it )
[09:23] <newMeta> somsip, I did that when I use synaptic to add downloaded package it says it needs to download additional packages
[09:24] <soyos> newMeta: yes, provided you also copy the dependency .deb's (recursively to their dependencies, etc.) and copy the /var/lib/apt/lists
[09:36] <guillaume_s> Hi everyone
[09:37] <guillaume_s> i would like to install Ubuntu on an IBM server Power5, does anyone have some knowledge about this ?
[09:37] <cfhowlett> !server | guillaume_s
[09:38] <vlt> guillaume_s: Did you have any problems so far?
[09:38] <guillaume_s> I know quite well ubuntu and linux but i have never installed it on a server yet, i'd like to know the overall process
[09:38] <guillaume_s> which version to choose and just how to stat
[09:38] <guillaume_s> start
[09:38] <cfhowlett> guillaume_s, thus my suggestion to see the SERVER channel
[09:39] <guillaume_s> oh didn't see, thanks
[09:39] <chronodekar> guillaume_s: you could try to install on a virtualbox environment if you just want to experiment
[09:39] <chronodekar> would give you some experience of the process too.
[09:39] <auronandace|work> guillaume_s: the factoid also links you to a guide
[09:39] <chronodekar> !kernel | chronodekar
[09:40] <guillaume_s> thank you very much
[09:40] <Shogo> who controls the fan (cooler/vent) behaviour in 15.04 by default?
[09:40] <mssmss> how do I remove the list of users in the shutdown menu  in edubuntu
[09:41] <vlt> Slightly !ot, but can anyone explain to me what the actual difference between a computer running Ubuntu and a "server" is?
[09:41] <vlt> What makes a server a server?
[09:41] <sikio> vlt: it's configured to act as a server?
[09:42] <sikio> as in it does things that a server does
[09:42] <cfhowlett> vlt, final use and no gui.  servers tend to me used for specific duties, e.g. mail server
[09:45] <vlt> sikio, cfhowlett: I know. But what does the question “I want to install Ubuntu *on a server*?” mean?
[09:45] <k1l_> vlt: the setup and the use makes it a server. desktop and server do share the same packages and kernel on ubuntu
[09:45] <k1l_> vlt: cli install, for example
[09:46] <cfhowlett> vlt, servers don't have all the pretty graphics and gui stuff.  they can even be "headless" or remote.  quite a different scenario than most desktop users are accustomed to.
[09:47] <vlt> Ok, but there’s no real difference in hardware, is it? What makes a "server CPU" (like Intel Xeon) a server CPU?
[09:48] <Ben64> more appropriate for ##hardware
[09:48] <soyos> note that the same machine can act both as a desktop and a server - depending on what programs you have running. Ubuntu just offers a prepackaged non-gui server by default..
[09:48] <k1l_> vlt in hardware there is a lot difference like fallback power supply or ECC ram etc. but that is far beyond the ubuntu support
[09:53] <naseath> Anyone have problem ubuntu 14.04 hang
[09:53] <cfhowlett> ! details | naseath, please avoid "anyone else ..." structure.  it tells us NOTHING about what your actual problem is.
[09:55] <naseath> I am using ubuntu desktop version 14.04 and often get error while using libreoffice the hold OS hang
[10:01] <Desu> post the errors
[10:32] <magnolia> black screen with or without msg kernel panic and caps lock light blinking with nothing working -- how to avoid this and how to fix it when it happens ? I've seen this many times that too almost on all editions of ubuntu
[10:33] <Desu> check your hardware
[10:33] <magnolia> Desu: means ?
[10:33] <hateball> magnolia: run a memtest, smartctl your drive etc
[10:33] <magnolia> hateball: how ?
[10:34] <hateball> magnolia: you can use for instance the install media and choose to run a memtest instead of trying/installing
[10:34] <magnolia> hateball: you mean live ?
[10:34] <Desu> someone should write a memtest that actually works on modern hardware too :/
[10:34] <Desu> aka supports actually testing all the ram
[10:35] <magnolia> I encountered this mostly when I think ram was totally consumed
[10:36] <magnolia> also, firefox uses a lot of memory, 1-2gb's
[10:36] <magnolia> whats wrong with ff now ?
[10:36] <hateball> magnolia: yes, live-cd/usb
[10:37] <magnolia> hateball: ^^^
[10:41] <magnolia> reproduced black screen with caps light blinking and nothing working (kernel panic) on live usb 15.04 by checking waking from suspend in settings and a password, afterwards suspending
[10:41] <Ben64> does it only happen when resuming
[10:41] <magnolia> Ben64: soon after hitting suspend button
[10:42] <Ben64> ok but does it _only_ happen when doing that
[10:42] <magnolia> currently only that on vivid
[10:43] <magnolia> Ben64: ^^^
[10:43] <Ben64> you keep not answering the question fully
[10:44] <magnolia> Ben64: I know no other way of reproducing the same on vivid, as soon as I'll discover more methods, I'll post here
[10:44] <Ben64> ok well if you're not going to answer the question then i'm done
[10:45] <magnolia> Ben64: what answer are you expecting ? I think I've answered fully
[10:45] <rohan_Kanojia> hi everyone!
[10:46] <Ben64> magnolia: its very simple. does that ONLY happen when suspending
[10:46] <magnolia> Ben64: yes
[10:46] <rohan_Kanojia> I've a read-only usb and i want to fix it
[10:46] <Ben64> so don't suspend
[10:47] <rohan_Kanojia> Is there any low level formatting tool with which i can fix the read-only error.
[10:47] <Ben64> rohan_Kanojia: give more details
[10:47] <rohan_Kanojia> Okay.
[10:48] <bishops> is there a way to get letters on libreoffice to appear slightly more separated?
[10:48] <magnolia> Ben64: it happened once and all my work got lost, did it again for checking and same, so posting here
[10:48] <rohan_Kanojia> when i run dosfsck -a /dev/sdb1
[10:48] <rohan_Kanojia> i get fsck.fat 3.0.26 (2014-03-07) open: Read-only file system
[10:49] <Ben64> rohan_Kanojia: fsck doesn't format. if you want to format open gparted
[10:49] <magnolia> btw, if next time your network stops working then you should stop using your network, I think thats not an answer for "do not suspend"
[10:49] <rohan_Kanojia> i've tried gparted and mkfs, they give same errors
[10:50] <rohan_Kanojia> Can you suggest any other alternative?
[10:50] <Ben64> some hardware doesn't play nice with suspend, suspend isn't necessary, don't leave stuff not saved when going into suspend, don't go into suspend
[10:50] <Ben64> rohan_Kanojia: gparted wouldn't give the same error
[10:50] <rohan_Kanojia> Can it be fixed? By the way, It is a Sandisk pendrive
[10:50] <rohan_Kanojia> yes it is giving the same error
[10:51] <Ben64> try it now and show me
[10:51] <magnolia> if it happens then how to fix it ? had the same problem with firefox memory leaks in previos verions of ubuntu
[10:51] <rohan_Kanojia> Should i post screenshot?
[10:51] <Ben64> magnolia: what does firefox have to do with suspend?
[10:51] <Ben64> rohan_Kanojia: yes
[10:51] <rohan_Kanojia> How can i share that image with you?
[10:51] <Ben64> upload to imgur.com or a similar host of your choosing
[10:52] <rohan_Kanojia> wait let me do it again
[10:52] <hateball> rohan_Kanojia: does the drive have some physical switch? I've seen some that do
[10:52] <magnolia> Ben64: suspend is a new thing which is reproducing the problem but firefox takes a lot of memory 1-2 gb and after sometime it creates the same problem
[10:53] <Ben64> magnolia: so when i asked if it only happened when suspending and you said yes, you lied
[10:53] <hateball> magnolia: So do a memtest
[10:54] <rohan_Kanojia> here it is
[10:54] <rohan_Kanojia> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9QSbghQENTLXzgwSTRaWDZzWGM/view?usp=sharing
[10:54] <magnolia> Ben64: currently its only happening with suspend and I wrote several times about firefox.....read above
[10:54] <Ben64> asked you thrice even, and you didn't tell the truth
[10:54] <rohan_Kanojia> Drive has't got any physical switch
[10:55] <magnolia> Ben64: "CURRENTLY" only happening with suspend but "BEFORE" it has happened "SEVERAL" times on "PREVIOUS" versions of ubuntu using "FIREFOX"
[10:55] <daftykins> you can't use " like that :)
[10:56] <magnolia> Ben64: I think for more you should check english language classes and logs.ubunt.com
[10:56] <EriC^^> lol
[10:56] <Ben64> rohan_Kanojia: unplug the drive, wait a little, plug it back in, pastebin the output of "dmesg | tail -n50" and "sudo hdparm -Ii /dev/sdb"
[10:57]  * EriC^^ slides Ben64 coffee and yummy treats
[10:57] <Ben64> magnolia: i guess i was using this outdated definition of "only"  -- ˈōnlē/  adverb: only    1.   and no one or nothing more besides; solely or exclusively.
[10:58] <rohan_Kanojia> ok
[10:58] <EriC^^> lol
[10:59] <rohan_Kanojia> dmesg has given a huge output
[10:59] <rohan_Kanojia> Should i paste it here?
[11:00] <auronandace|work> rohan_Kanojia: not directly, use a pastebin please
[11:00] <rohan_Kanojia> what is pastebin?
[11:00] <auronandace|work> !paste | rohan_Kanojia
[11:02] <rohan_Kanojia> wait let me do it
[11:03] <Desu> rohan_Kanojia: bpaste.net gist.github.com
[11:03] <rohan_Kanojia> http://pastebin.com/uFMJagP5
[11:03] <rohan_Kanojia> This is what i got by running dmesg command
[11:05] <Lope> Can someone recommend a VOIP provider that can work with ubuntu compatible software such as Ekiga?
[11:05] <Ben64> rohan_Kanojia: well it thinkgs theres a write protect switch, and its on
[11:06] <tinyhippo> /2/25
[11:06] <daftykins> that's a bad tinyhippo - do you have a question?
[11:06] <hateball> Ben64, rohan_Kanojia: some googling leads to http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/121061/disk-on-key-is-read-only-on-every-computer
[11:06] <rohan_Kanojia> http://pastebin.com/WiBWafVA
[11:07] <Ben64> hateball: yep
[11:07] <daftykins> !cookie | hateball
[11:07] <rohan_Kanojia> what?
[11:07] <Ben64> rohan_Kanojia: oh that second paste confirms it. definitely broken
[11:07] <rohan_Kanojia> what broken? can you please elaborate?
[11:07] <Ben64> uh. the drive is no more, it has ceased to be
[11:07] <daftykins> the drive is dead.
[11:08] <rohan_Kanojia> Actually it's my friend'ds pd
[11:08] <daftykins> PD?
[11:08] <rohan_Kanojia> Pen drive
[11:08] <Ben64> phlash drive
[11:08] <daftykins> then your friend is in the market for a new one
[11:08] <rohan_Kanojia> lol
[11:08] <Ben64> according to the sandisk site, can return it for a new one perhaps
 Can you tell me the lines which tell that USB stick is broken
[11:09] <rohan_Kanojia> I've to tell it to my friend.
[11:09] <Ben64> well you see the second paste the weird lines that aren't readable?
[11:09] <rohan_Kanojia> Yeah in the begining
[11:09] <Ben64> yeah that should be in english
[11:10] <rohan_Kanojia> That are supposed to be in English?
[11:10] <daftykins> yep
[11:10] <Ben64>         Model Number:       �s����Q��o��hB􀃠�z�`�f���j��UP��M�
[11:10] <rohan_Kanojia> Is it a hardware fault
[11:10] <Ben64> not a real model number
[11:10] <rohan_Kanojia> hmmm
[11:11] <hateball> rohan_Kanojia: if you read this thread which is linked in the link I gave above you will see it is not uncommon http://forums.sandisk.com/t5/All-SanDisk-USB-Flash-Drives/SanDisk-Cruzer-Blade-16GB-write-protected-error/td-p/253484
[11:11] <rohan_Kanojia> wait let me see it
[11:15] <rohan_Kanojia> Okay! So it is a hardware error.
[11:15] <rohan_Kanojia> And it is not solvable.
[11:15] <test12222> exit
[11:16] <rohan_Kanojia> I thought i could reformat it with any of linux's low level formatting tool
[11:16] <hateball> rohan_Kanojia: you could always try in a different computer before you smash it to bits
[11:16] <magnolia> rohan_Kanojia: is it very old ?
[11:18] <rohan_Kanojia> I don't know! It is of my friend's
[11:19] <rohan_Kanojia> It looks old
 Anyways thanks for help!
[11:24] <tnkhanh> I want to install something like libxcb-xinput
[11:25] <hateball> rohan_Kanojia: :)
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> tnkhanh  "something like libxcb-xinput"?
[11:25] <magnolia> anyways, when kernel panic occurs then how to fix it ?
[11:26] <Bundestrojaner> hi! how can i use a serial port as user in kubuntu?
[11:26] <Bundestrojaner> googleresults said, i have to be in group dialout, but it still doesn't work
[11:27] <hateball> magnolia: Kernel panic is game over. Run a memtest, check your drives for errors.
[11:27] <tnkhanh> I installed libxcb-image (contains libxcb-image.so), libxcb-xkb (contains libxcb-xkb.so) and libxcb-shm (contains libxcb-shm.so)
[11:28] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:28] <tnkhanh> now the program says it requires xinput component of XCB which means the file libxcb-xinput.so but I couldnt find it
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> tnkhanh  start from the beginning, what are you doing and what brings you here... in one line
[11:29] <tnkhanh> MonkeyDust, 1 line: I want to install the XINPUT component of XCB
[11:31] <zetheroo> how can I logout a user account via command?
[11:34] <tnkhanh> zetheroo, type "logout" or "exit"
[11:34] <tnkhanh> kind of obvious :p
[11:35] <tnkhanh> or do you mean out of the GUI
[11:35] <tnkhanh> that I don't know
[11:35] <zetheroo>  tnkhanh: sorry, I meant logout another user ... but I think I found the solution with "who -u" and then kill the PID of the user session - thanks
[11:35] <vuurdraak> hi all, I have mounted my ntfs partition with the "permissions" option: ntfs-3g defaults,auto,users,permissions,exec,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=002 0 0  // and in windows i have seen a new guid of unknown user, telling something did happen, but in linux i can not chown or chmod the files, all permissions stay the same, anybody has a clue what could be going wrong ?
[11:35] <tnkhanh> zetheroo, nice
[11:36] <Bundestrojaner> how can i use a serial port as user in (k)ubuntu? I'm already in group dialout but it still doesn't work...
[11:36] <Bundestrojaner> (it's connected over Usb)
[11:37] <hateball> Bundestrojaner: weird, that should "just work", if it's some usb device that mounts to /dev/ttyUSB0 or something
[11:37] <gravida> hi guys. i ve an issue can someone help me?
[11:37] <EriC^^> gravida: what's up?
[11:37] <gravida> i dont just bring up issues before i search but i coulnt find a workaround
[11:37] <gravida> so i thought i need some live help
[11:38] <gravida> about my video driver
[11:38] <gravida> i am using 15.04 upgraded from 14.04
[11:38] <Bundestrojaner> hateball: /dev/ttyUSB0 is it. when i start cutecom with sudo, it works
[11:39] <gravida> i ve ati hd6770. want to use fglrx or fglrx updates. but when i install then from additional drivers they wont activate
[11:39] <EriC^^> gravida: what do you mean by they don't activate?
[11:39] <gravida> fglrxinfo output indicates it still uses mesa
[11:39] <Bundestrojaner> hateball: it works now, wtf??
[11:39] <Bundestrojaner> it didn't work for weeks *facepalm*
[11:39] <gravida> i tried many times to revert it to defaults and reinstall fglrx but no success
[11:40] <hateball> Bundestrojaner: :D
[11:40] <Bundestrojaner> and i didn't change anything
[11:40] <EriC^^> ok, i don't know much about video issues, you might need to blacklist the other one i guess, somebody will chime in hopefully
[11:40] <EriC^^> gravida: ^
[11:40] <Bundestrojaner> hateball: thx anyway :)
[11:40] <hateball> Bundestrojaner: well I dont know, for me it's always "just worked" so I guess I wouldnt be of much help
[11:40] <gravida> i am glad you listened to it. thank you anyway
[11:40] <gravida> is there anyone know how to fix ?
[11:40] <magnolia> prt-sc button not working, ctrl+ and shift+ also, surprisingly alt+prt-sc working, how to fix it ?
[11:41] <vuurdraak> magnolia, are you sure you have the correct keyboard layout loaded for your keyboard , instead of some default one ?
[11:41] <magnolia> xev gives response on alt+prt-sc but not on prt-sc alone or ctrl+/shift+
[11:41] <magnolia> vuurdraak: its 15.04 vivid default one
[11:42] <magnolia> tried settings/keyboard/shortcuts and its fine
[11:42] <vuurdraak> maybe you need to find out if your keyboard needs a differnt layout
[11:42] <EriC^^> gravida: try to repeat your question in one line every so often
[11:43] <magnolia> vuurdraak: ok, then suggest something
[11:43] <vuurdraak> magnolia, i dont know what keyboard you got :)
[11:44] <vuurdraak> if it's some special keyboard with extra buttons other then default us, it might need a special layout
[11:44] <magnolia> vuurdraak: its hp pavilion g6 series model 1200tu with whatever keyboard it got
[11:44] <magnolia> vuurdraak: btw the same keyboard worked totally fine in previous versions of ubuntu
[11:45] <gravida> i ve upgraded my 14.04 to 15.04 recently,  i was using fglrx drivers with no problem(ati hd6770) but now it seems to disabled somehow. fglrxinfo output shows mesa drivers is active. i tried to revert to default and reinstall fglrx many times and no success so far. is there anything should i try?
[11:45] <EriC^^> magnolia: oh, i have an hp pavilion g6 and the same thing used to happen, printscreen with only alt worked, it works now though
[11:45] <EriC^^> which ubuntu are you using?
[11:46] <magnolia> EriC^^: you are the first person who is using the same crap other than me, sounds nice :D
[11:46] <EriC^^> lol
[11:47] <magnolia> EriC^^: currently 15.04 vivid, worked totally fine in all previous versions of ubuntu
[11:47] <EriC^^> it's actually quite nice, the battery life sucks though, i get like 2 hours
[11:47] <vuurdraak> magnolia, i hand you over to our expert on hp keyboards EriC^^ :)
[11:47] <EriC^^> lool no expert at all
[11:47] <vuurdraak> i can only see countries in the keyboard settings, no special hp thingies
[11:47] <EriC^^> ah wait, i'm actually using an external keyboard right now cause i spilled coke on the hp one and it went kaboom
[11:47] <EriC^^> so that might be why it's working
[11:48] <vuurdraak> there is ur solution :) trash the ho keyboard xD
[11:48] <EriC^^> lol
[11:48] <magnolia> vuurdraak: lol thnks for handing (passing) me over to experts
[11:48] <vuurdraak> hp*
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> EriC^^  same here, i spilled coffee, tho
[11:48] <vuurdraak> so magnolia just spill cofee on the keyboard and get a new one xD
[11:48] <EriC^^> :D
[11:49] <vuurdraak> maybe hp it self has some layouts for linux, i'm betting that it needs some special layout or the problem will persist
[11:50] <magnolia> vuurdraak: I thought hp doesn't supports linux at all
[11:50] <vuurdraak> ah :(
[11:50] <magnolia> I mean officially
[11:51] <BluesKaj> niether does MS , but my MS KB works on linuix :-)
[11:51] <magnolia> come on folks, provide some solution, ppl are watching you experts
[11:51] <BluesKaj> linux even
[11:51] <vuurdraak> lol
[11:51] <vuurdraak> im a gamer :D
[11:51] <vuurdraak> i can tell u precisly how to install world of tanks in ubuntu :P
[11:52] <BluesKaj> experts ?, usually KBs are just PnP, seldom any problem with them
[11:52] <vuurdraak> i got my keyboard from the garbage for €0 :)
[11:52] <ThothCastel1> why am I unable to send a message to a channel ##linnux
[11:53] <magnolia> it requires registration ThothCastel1
[11:53] <vuurdraak> maybe it's #linux ?
[11:53] <vuurdraak> I have mounted my ntfs partition with the "permissions" option: ntfs-3g defaults,auto,users,permissions,exec,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=002 0 0  // and in windows i have seen a new guid of unknown user, telling something did happen, but in linux i can not chown or chmod the files, all permissions stay the same, anybody has a clue what could be going wrong ?
[11:53] <magnolia> ohh, your spelling is wrong --> its linux and not liNNux
[11:54] <magnolia> EriC^^: any ideas ? keyboard fix ? not coffee
[11:54] <vuurdraak> cola ?
[11:54] <vuurdraak> xD
[11:54] <EriC^^> magnolia: no idea
[11:54] <magnolia> come on...
[11:55] <magnolia> its broadcom wireless chipset is also pain
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> magnolia   try this command    sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[11:55] <magnolia> any better drivers than bcmwl-kernel-source ? EriC^^
[11:55] <vuurdraak> special keyboards always need special drivers/layouts , because they send out differnt codes for the key presses, unless you are going to capture them and reroute them to a standard format or something
[11:56] <ThothCastel1> it's ##linux   I can see everyone's message but when I try and send a message I get a Cannot send to channel
[11:56] <EriC^^> magnolia: no idea, what does xev give you right now right prntscreen?
[11:57] <EriC^^> magnolia: try xmodmap -e "keycode 107=Print"
[11:58] <ThothCastel1> magnolia: how to register?
[11:58] <magnolia> EriC^^: xev gives response to alt+prt-sc but nothing for prt-sc alone or ctrl+/shift+prt-sc
[11:58] <magnolia> ThothCastel1: you register to server and not channel
[11:58] <EriC^^> magnolia: what's xmodmap -pke look like?
[12:00] <ThothCastel> thanks magnolia - works now
[12:00] <magnolia> EriC^^: a long list for xmodmap -pke
[12:00] <EriC^^> gravida: try dpkg -l | grep "linux-headers\|fglrx" and paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[12:00] <magnolia> MonkeyDust: your command gives a window which doesn't lists my laptop model
[12:01] <EriC^^> magnolia: can you pastebin it?
[12:01] <magnolia> EriC^^: how to paste full output ? only 1 page visible
[12:01] <gravida> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12327904/
[12:02] <magnolia> how to directly paste to pastebinit ?
[12:02] <EriC^^> magnolia: type xmodmap -pke | pastebinit
[12:02] <magnolia> EriC^^: pastebinit needs to be installed ?
[12:02] <EriC^^> magnolia: yeah
[12:03] <EriC^^> gravida: type uname -r
[12:04] <cfhowlett> magnolia, or use the built-in nc option        ps -x | grep xchat nc termbin.com 999                                nc termbincom 9999            will pipe the output to a paste url
[12:04] <gravida> EriC^^, 3.16.0-48-generic
[12:04] <EriC^^> gravida: ok, type sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-generic
[12:04] <gravida> trying right now
[12:05] <magnolia> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12327920/
[12:05] <gravida> should i reboot after it?
[12:05] <EriC^^> gravida: no
[12:05] <EriC^^> type sudo apt-get purge fglrx*
[12:05] <EriC^^> then sudo apt-get install fglrx
[12:07] <magnolia> cfhowlett: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ps -x | grep xchat nc termbin.com 999 grep: nc: No such file or directory grep: termbin.com: No such file or directory grep: 999: No such file or directory ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ps -x | grep xchat nc termbin.com 999                                nc termbincom 9999 grep: nc: No such file or directory grep: termbin.com: No such file or directory grep: 999: No such file or directory grep: nc: No such file or d
[12:07] <EriC^^> magnolia: ok, and xev gives no keycode for printscreen?
[12:07] <gravida> EriC^^, can use: sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates instead?
[12:08] <magnolia> EriC^^: no for prt-sc button alone and with shift+ or ctrl+ but it responds to alt+prt-sc
[12:08] <gravida> i want to use catalyst 15.07 if possible?
[12:08] <cfhowlett> magnolia, sorry, gotta add one line                    ps -x | grep xchat | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:08] <magnolia> cfhowlett: I dont have xchat, will it still work ?
[12:08] <magnolia> I'm on webchat
[12:09] <cfhowlett> magnolia, xchat is just to demonstrate how to paste a command.  use it to paste whatever you need
[12:09] <Desu> ps -c is a thing
[12:09] <cfhowlett> magnolia, functionally the same as pastebinit
[12:09] <EriC^^> magnolia: maybe you could use another button or combo for it
[12:09] <Desu> sidenote
[12:09] <EriC^^> using xbindkeys
[12:10] <Desu> xchat is dead, stop using it, if you want something similar to xchat that is actually maintained then use hexchat
[12:10]  * EriC^^ will use xchat until the end of time
[12:10] <cfhowlett> +1 for hexchat
[12:10] <gravida> EriC^^, would it be a problem if i install fglrx-updates instead? (last command you offered)
[12:10] <EriC^^> gravida: no
[12:11] <gravida> ok i will reboot and rejoin the channel to report in.
[12:11] <EriC^^> ok
[12:12] <magnolia> xmodmap -e "keycode 107=Print" no use
[12:12] <EriC^^> yeah it's already set, but it doesn't see when you press prntscrn
[12:13] <EriC^^> what does ctrl+prntscreen do?
[12:13] <EriC^^> i can't find where it's saving them O.o
[12:14] <magnolia> nothing with ctrl+prt-sc, even with shift+ nothing
[12:14] <magnolia> alt+prt-sc working
[12:14] <EriC^^> i mean what is it supposed to do
[12:14] <EriC^^> it just makes a snapshot noise here and nothing gets saved anywhere
[12:15] <magnolia> you need paint to paste your screenshot, it copies screenshot to memory EriC^^
[12:15] <EriC^^> ohh
[12:15] <EriC^^> i see
[12:15] <loa> can somebody please explain me my output of "dkms status" http://pastebin.com/bJZ2qjwt why there no information about modules for my current kernel? you can see that i have nvidia module for my kernel, what i miss?
[12:16] <EriC^^> magnolia: maybe you could set another combo key to Print as a temporary fix
[12:16] <EriC^^> like some 2 keys next to eachother, if you press them together you get printscreen too
[12:16] <magnolia> EriC^^: thats not a solution but an ostrich approach
[12:17] <EriC^^> lol i dunno how to fix it, just an idea
[12:17] <EriC^^> until you get it sorted out or something
[12:17] <ioria> have uou tried  xmodmap -e "keycode 107 = Sys_Req" ?
[12:17] <magnolia> EriC^^: no, its good if its really necessary for ex. incase of webpages which redirect very quickly
[12:18] <vuurdraak> loa, your latets kernmel you are running does not have the modules
[12:18] <magnolia> no but tried --> xmodmap -e "keycode 107=Print"
[12:18] <magnolia> with no use
[12:18] <EriC^^> gravida: any luck?
[12:18] <gravida> EriC^^, thank you so much!
[12:18] <loa> vuurdraak, it have, i checked all modules, they are all compiled by dkms and are in place.
[12:18] <gravida> EriC^^, seems to fixed now
[12:18] <nick_name333> Hello room. Brand new Ubuntu user. I have a Dell Precision M3800 fresh out of the box - cannot connect to WIFI.
[12:18] <EriC^^> gravida: cool, no problem!
[12:18] <vuurdraak> loa, the modules listed are for all your older kernels, but the new kernel your running there are no modules listed for it
[12:19] <nick_name333> My Dell Precision M3800 has Ubuntu 14.04
[12:19] <vuurdraak> if i do the same commands i get modules listed for my current kernel
[12:19] <vuurdraak> in your past bin the kernel ur using doesnt have modules listed
[12:19] <loa> vuurdraak, as i said i have those modules for my current kernel, how i can prove it for you?
[12:19] <magnolia> ioria: xmodmap -e "keycode 107 = Sys_Req" does not work
[12:20] <vuurdraak> loa, i can only say what i see in your pastbin
[12:20] <topdugz> loa:  vuurdraak wants pictures
[12:20] <nick_name333> Hello everybody?
[12:20] <cfhowlett> !ask | nick_name333
[12:21] <vuurdraak> loa, this is how it looks when i do ur commands on my pc
[12:21] <vuurdraak> http://pastebin.com/7vtVjqpq
[12:21] <cfhowlett> nick_name333, you gotta be patient
[12:21] <magnolia> MonkeyDust: sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration does not list my laptop, what should I choose instead ?
[12:21] <cfhowlett> nick_name333, has it EVER connected to wifi?
[12:21] <ioria> magnolia, have you checked in system settings -> keyboard -> shortcuts ?
[12:21] <nick_name333> My Dell Precision M3800 is fresh out of the box. No it has never connected to anything before.
[12:22] <topdugz> magnolia: weird
[12:22] <magnolia> ioria: yes, its fine
[12:22] <vuurdraak> with me it lists modules for the current kernel, and i dont see them in ur past bin, maybe you could try uninstalling the driver and try installing again
[12:22] <magnolia> topdugz: what ?
[12:22] <daftykins> nick_name333: you bought it from Dell, i would recommend using their support options
[12:22] <cfhowlett> nick_name333, I'm guessing you have wifi hardware disabled
[12:23] <magnolia> someone listed this page https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-settings-daemon/+bug/1282649 EriC^^ ioria vuurdraak MonkeyDust cfhowlett
[12:23] <loa> vuurdraak, http://pastebin.com/Z6EVFUDP
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> magnolia  choose the laptop model that's closest to what you have
[12:23] <topdugz> MonkeyDust: mistake
[12:24] <loa> vuurdraak, you can see that all modules are in place...
[12:24] <nick_name333> OK how do I "enable" wifi hardware?
[12:24] <vuurdraak> dkms status, doesn't list the module for your .63 kernel how ever
[12:25] <loa> vuurdraak, yeah...
[12:25] <cfhowlett> nick_name333, eh, let's try this via PM.  My m3800 work perfectly
[12:25] <loa> i miss something, which i can't understand.
[12:26] <loa> dkms is very big bash script... 3k strings in it.
[12:26] <topdugz> loa: build the modules at boot
[12:26] <vuurdraak> maybe it's a bug
[12:26] <vuurdraak> loa, i had to reinstall the nvidia drivers before on kernel change with older kernels , i will past some thing u could try
[12:27] <ioria> magnolia, can you paste xmodmap -pk | grep Print  ?
[12:27] <daftykins> if you're manually installing from the nvidia website then you should be comfortable with how to deal with it on kernel updates :P
[12:27] <magnolia> ioria: xmodmap -pk | grep Print | pastebinit ?
[12:28] <ioria> magnolia, yep
[12:28] <loa> daftykins, i did not installed it manually and problems exists whith another modules too
[12:28] <ioria> magnolia, should be only 2 lines
[12:28] <loa> i have four modules which dkms don't see.
[12:28] <vuurdraak> loa, do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-355  (and) sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-355-uvm
[12:28] <magnolia> who is this topdugz opening up his a** in pvt ?
[12:28] <magnolia> ioria: ok, 1min
[12:28] <vuurdraak> loa, As of the recent kernel update (3.13.0-53), the above two commands followed by a reboot may not fix it. ----- -Instead
[12:29] <topdugz> ioria: two lines
[12:29] <magnolia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12328028/ ioria
[12:29] <vuurdraak> loa, sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-355-updates nvidia-355-updates-uvm
[12:29] <vuurdraak> oops not updates
[12:29] <vuurdraak> sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-355 nvidia-355-uvm
[12:30] <loa> ok
[12:30] <vuurdraak> try the first sudo's first
[12:30] <vuurdraak> if that fails try reinstall
[12:30] <ioria> magnolia, again xmodmap -e "keycode 107 = Sys_Req" and if not working you should reassign the 'print' key in Shortcuts
[12:31] <magnolia> ioria: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ xmodmap -e "keycode 107 = Sys_Req" | pastebinit You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[12:31] <topdugz> vuurdraak: reinstall?? Wow
[12:32] <ioria> magnolia, no don't paste it ... it's a command
[12:32] <Gale_Grim>  /join #Wikia-MSPA
[12:32] <vuurdraak> only if the dpkg commands failed
[12:32] <ioria> magnolia, run    xmodmap -e "keycode 107 = Sys_Req"
[12:32] <magnolia> ohh ok ioria
[12:34] <vuurdraak> topdugz is pm'ing me racist slurr etc how do you block somebody ?
[12:35] <daftykins> vuurdraak: go chat in #freenode - IRC woes are nothing to do with Ubuntu support
[12:35] <magnolia> ioria: nothing
[12:35] <topdugz> vuurdraak: no way
[12:35] <magnolia> ioria: now what ?
[12:36] <vuurdraak> ow way the ignor command with host name
[12:36] <vuurdraak> wait*
[12:36] <ioria> magnolia, did you press the 'print' button ?
[12:36] <magnolia> ioria: means ?
[12:36] <magnolia> ioria: oh, yes its not working
[12:36] <ioria> magnolia, the  'print' button is not working , right ?
[12:36] <magnolia> ioria: ^^^
[12:37] <magnolia> yes, pressed it but still not workiing
[12:37] <magnolia> ioria:
[12:37] <vuurdraak> *!*@*cg-dialup.net added to ignore list.
[12:37] <ioria> magnolia, then try to reassign it in Shortcuts
[12:37] <magnolia> ok
[12:38] <vuurdraak> lol as soon as setted ignore he quited
[12:39] <auronandace> vuurdraak: we don't require commentary
[12:40] <magnolia> ioria: did that command and not working then did it with sudo and still not working then went to settings/keyboard/shortcuts and reassigned and its working now
[12:41] <loa> vuurdraak, so i run this sudo rm -rf /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-355 and after that i did your reconfigure command. and nvidia module now appear in dksm status
[12:41] <vuurdraak> nice
[12:41] <vuurdraak> yeh it's a know bug
[12:41] <vuurdraak> loa, they need to go past all drivers to fix them one at a time
[12:41] <loa> known?
[12:41] <daftykins> you shouldn't use -f with rm if not necessary
[12:41] <magnolia> ioria: prt-sc button along with shift+ and ctrl+ are working but alt+ not as reassigning it is showing as level3 shift
[12:42] <loa> and what is the problem?
[12:42] <daftykins> it's simply foolish
[12:42] <vuurdraak> keep an eye on kernel updates, and expand the console to see if the driver is installed properly , else u need to do it again after every kernel update
[12:42] <magnolia> the one which was working alone previously is not working now ioria
[12:42] <vuurdraak> loa, some ubuntu bug, they fixed it for the newest drivers and are going down the list as far as i know
[12:42] <loa> daftykins, yeah you are right, it is from old past, when i started learning linux
[12:43] <daftykins> tut tut!
[12:43] <loa> i can't get why dkms don't see my modules, all files are in place... what changed?
[12:43] <loa> maybe there are some permission problems?
[12:43] <loa> or somethings?
[12:44] <vuurdraak> loa, i think the modules are somehow not properly configured when a new kernle is set
[12:44] <loa> vuurdraak, i think i found something
[12:44] <vuurdraak> loa, i had to reinstall the drivers every kernel update before, till i switched to newer drivers
[12:44] <magnolia> while reassigning did prt-sc 1st along with alt-gr and its hell...
[12:45] <loa> vuurdraak, feel the difference http://pastebin.com/k9FKyuHC
[12:45] <vuurdraak> loa, is the driver now working okay ?
[12:46] <loa> vuurdraak, it always work ok.
[12:46] <vuurdraak> oww :')
[12:46] <loa> just dkms status did not see him.
[12:46] <loa> now it see.
[12:46] <vuurdraak> :) okay
[12:47] <ioria> magnolia, sorry was away... how is going ?
[12:47] <vuurdraak> i dont know either what is going on, i just knew there where problems with driver updates on some gpu drivers
[12:47] <magnolia> ioria: did that command and not working then did it with sudo and still not working then went to settings/keyboard/shortcuts and reassigned and its working now
[12:47] <magnolia> ioria: prt-sc button along with shift+ and ctrl+ are working but alt+ not as reassigning it is showing as level3 shift
[12:47] <ioria> magnolia, good
[12:47] <magnolia> the one which was working alone previously is not working now ioria
[12:48] <magnolia> while reassigning did prt-sc 1st along with alt-gr and its hell...
[12:49] <vuurdraak> anybody has a clue, why setting the "permissions" option in fstab on an ntfs drive still doesn't alow me to chmod the files ?
[12:49] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: type ls -l /path/to/files
[12:49] <ioria> magnolia, you just have to keep pressing with the mouse and press the key you want to reassign
[12:49] <vuurdraak> eric that list the permissions yes
[12:50] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: pick a random file and paste it for us
[12:50] <vuurdraak> but they wont change :(
[12:50] <magnolia> ioria: http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=6ba7c4d
[12:51] <vuurdraak> EriC^^, -rwxrwxr-x 1 vuurdraak vuurdraak 1134709 jul  4 01:15 python.log
[12:51] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: ok, type id and paste here
[12:51] <Pici> vuurdraak: what is wrong with those permissions?
[12:51] <ioria> magnolia, i think it's the first one
[12:51] <vuurdraak> uid=1000(vuurdraak) gid=1000(vuurdraak) groups=1000(vuurdraak),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),108(lpadmin),124(sambashare)
[12:51] <magnolia> ioria: means ?
[12:52] <magnolia> ioria: now alt-gr button seems to be not working at all
[12:52] <ioria> magnolia, 'Take a screenshot'
[12:52] <magnolia> alt-gr+space is not working but alt+space working fine
[12:52] <magnolia> ioria: ^^^
[12:52] <ioria> magnolia, ok
[12:53] <vuurdraak> EriC^^, this is the fstab mount: UUID=4A7C0B747C0B5A59 /mnt/C ntfs-3g defaults,auto,users,permissions,exec,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=002 0 0
[12:53] <skinux> Does Ubuntu rely on Python3 or just 2.7?
[12:53] <magnolia> ioria: http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=6ba7c4d now what to do for this ?
[12:53] <ioria> Python3.4 and 2.7
[12:53] <vuurdraak> Pici, i want to set execute rights only on specific files
[12:53] <vuurdraak> instead of the whole partition
[12:53] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: ok, type mount | grep /mnt/C
[12:54] <skinux> And, at some point I know I ran setup.py which I know installs a bunch of crap. Where would I look to manually remove all the crap. I know it's a tedious job, but it's my only choice.
[12:54] <vuurdraak> but i can not even remove write or read rights or chown to root
[12:54] <skinux> ?
[12:54] <magnolia> how to reset alt-gr button to its default now ?
[12:54] <ioria> magnolia, alt+print
[12:54] <vuurdraak> /dev/sdb1 on /mnt/C type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
[12:55] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: ok, what does chmod give you?
[12:55] <EriC^^> when you try to chmod i mean
[12:55] <vuurdraak> the permissions stay the same
[12:55] <magnolia> ioria: http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=55d67f4
[12:55] <EriC^^> no error?
[12:56] <vuurdraak> noop
[12:56] <ioria> skinux, hard to say... you should open your setup.py and see what it does
[12:56] <vuurdraak> it just does the command with no error or other output given
[12:56] <magnolia> its when reassiigning alt+prt-sc, it shows as soon as I press alt or alt-gr button
[12:56] <skinux> Second thought....what main packages do I need to remove to remove KDE/Kubuntu and just have Ubuntu?
[12:56] <magnolia> ioria: ^^^
[12:57] <ioria> magnolia, cancel , then
[12:57] <vuurdraak> vuurdraak@Phenom-II-970:/mnt/C/Linux/WoWS$ chmod 555 python.log
[12:57] <vuurdraak> vuurdraak@Phenom-II-970:/mnt/C/Linux/WoWS$
[12:57] <vuurdraak> -rwxrwxr-x 1 vuurdraak vuurdraak  1134709 jul  4 01:15 python.log
[12:57] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: i dont think you can do that with ntfs
[12:57] <vuurdraak> nothing happens :'(
[12:58] <Pici> vuurdraak: This is a detailed writeup on how to get it to work, but I've never done this myself: http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-advanced/ownership-and-permissions/
[12:58] <vuurdraak> the "permissions" setting should alow it, also a new user was made seen in Windows, and all the files in windows where changed to all users
[12:58] <magnolia> ioria: what to do now ?
[12:58] <vuurdraak> so linux did do something
[12:59] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: http://askubuntu.com/questions/342791/file-permissions-wont-change
[12:59] <ioria> magnolia, did you press alt+print  with the row clicked ?
[12:59] <magnolia> yes ioria
[12:59] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: check Pici 's link i guess
[12:59] <magnolia> ioria: it shows that box as soon as I press alt button
[13:00] <vuurdraak> yeh i go read both, i looked on the ubuntu forums, and they basicly all says if "permissions" is set in fstab it should work
[13:00] <skinux> Is there new main "desktop" package that will aid in removing KDE ?
[13:00] <k1l_> skinux: ubuntu-desktop will install unity
[13:00] <hateball> !pureunity
[13:00] <hateball> hmm
[13:00] <loa> vuurdraak, so problem was with this... when you compile something with dkms you need use arch, first i use this command sudo dkms build -m uvesafb_scale -v 0.1 -k kernel-3.13.0-63
[13:00] <loa> vuurdraak, but right variant is sudo dkms build -m uvesafb_scale -v 0.1 -k kernel-3.13.0-63/x86_64
[13:01] <loa> after that dkms status work right
[13:01] <skinux> I already have Unity, but KDE is also installed and I want to remove "kubuntu" completely, having only "Ubuntu", and I might even switch to something lighter-weight in the future.
[13:02] <ioria> magnolia, wow ... choose another combination...
[13:02] <vooze> So i'm trying out a broadcom wifi card on Ubuntu. On windows I get like 250/200mbit but on Ubuntu the upload speed is slow. So its like 250/30. Is that a normal thing for broadcom (just upload speed sucks) ?
[13:02] <magnolia> ioria: alt-prt-sc was working alone before but not now, what might be the problem ?
[13:03] <hateball> vooze: depends on chipset most likely
[13:03] <sravan> Hi frnz
[13:03] <KCmetro> I need to burn data to blu-ray, brasero keeps spitting the disc back out. "unsupported type of task operation" and "internal error"... I need to burn the files, is there a workaround for brasero or another option?
[13:03] <sravan> Anybody in?
[13:04] <vuurdraak> loa, okay, i have never used it like that, im just a simple linux gamer :D
[13:04] <KCmetro> that was the 2nd attempt, the 1st attempt was "merging data is impossible with this disc" (so I tried a different blank disc on 2nd attempt, which had different results)
[13:04] <loa> vooze, maybe you need increase transmit power?
[13:04] <vooze> loa: how do I do that? It works fine on my laptop with Intel Wifi.
[13:05] <hateball> KCmetro: I am not sure what brasero uses as the backend, but k3b will use wodim and it should work
[13:05] <loa> vooze, maybe defaults for that driver are lower then on you intel wifi driver
[13:05] <ioria> magnolia, i set alt+e, for example
[13:05] <skinux> Why is there a tmp directory in my home directory?
[13:05] <loa> vooze, dunno, try to google it using name of driver and "transmit power" or maybe "tx power"
[13:06] <KCmetro> hateball: Thanks for input, I'm not familiar with k3b or wodim ...googling...
[13:06] <hateball> KCmetro: k3b is a gui burning app
[13:06] <hateball> KCmetro: you can install it from the software center
[13:06] <KCmetro> excellent
[13:06] <vuurdraak> EriC^^,  & Pici, maybe the problem is that I'm in my own group: A different set of ACE’s is built when the owner is an administrator because in this situation owner, group and administrator are the same, so redundant ACE’s have to be defined. A similar situation arises when the user and the group have the same identification, requiring a third set of ACE’s (see limitations.)
[13:07] <KCmetro> so k3b is a gui for wodim?
[13:07] <BluesKaj> KCmetro, yes it's a KDE gui
[13:07] <KCmetro> ohhh
[13:07] <KCmetro> hmmm ok
[13:07] <vooze> loa: i'll try that :) thanks
[13:07] <KCmetro> how about gnome gui?
[13:07] <KCmetro> i don't have KDE installed... no biggy, i'll try k3b out
[13:07] <hateball> It works just the same
[13:08] <idiiot> what do you think about new ubuntu?
[13:09] <KCmetro> new ubuntu, as in w/ unity?
[13:09] <BluesKaj> !polls | idiiot
[13:09] <KCmetro> i had issues with unity :( i think compiz related but i'm on an old computer
[13:10] <idiiot> i test only virtual machine
[13:10] <cfhowlett> idiiot, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic                this is the technical support channel
[13:10] <jowi> Hi all, using xubuntu-desktop and seem to have an issue with keyboard shortcuts. Either the keyboard Application shortcuts work OR the multimedia keys work after reboot but never the two at the same time. Seems like a race condition or possibly two daemons fighting for control. I was hoping someone has a solution or a way to troubleshoot/find where to see where the issue lies. Thanks in advance
[13:10] <chatango> Hi my hard drive crashed it boots with rescue grub but i get unknown filesystem even when i do ls (hb0)/. ibooted with live cd . i need to somehow try recover my files. any idea.  34 bad sectors
[13:10] <BluesKaj> !poll | idiiot
[13:10] <vuurdraak> ow wait i found something interesting, i got multiple ntfs mounts, and the C mount im trying to chmod does not have a .NTFS-3G folder, ithink that is my problem, i need to copy it from somewhere
[13:11] <compdoc> chatango, boot a live cd, and copy it to another drive or net share
[13:11] <BluesKaj> where's the bot when you it :/
[13:11] <BluesKaj> need
[13:11] <jowi> (using a laptop DELL Latitude E6410 if it makes any difference)
[13:12] <loa> chatango, yeah it is first what you MUST do, i loose data because of that, after that you can try to recover data from new source.
[13:12] <magnolia> ioria: the problem is that as soon as I press alt button it shows that box meaning alt-gr button is totally useless now, which is a new problem
[13:12] <EriC^^> chatango: use ddrescue or so to make an image first
[13:12] <chatango>  cant ready any files on hard drive
[13:13] <chatango> EriC^^:  ok
[13:14] <chatango> compdoc:  yes i booted from a live cd
[13:15] <vuurdraak> pici , thanks for that link, i guess i have to manually ad a .NTFS-3G thingy, thanks too EriC^^ for giving at a try :)
[13:16] <vuurdraak> thanks for the help, laters all i have to go o/
[13:21] <idiiot> who works jmeter?
[13:22] <skinux> What happened to Ubuntu Software Center? It disappeared and all I can find is Lubuntu Software Center.
[13:22] <KCmetro> k3b appears to be working. thank you, hateball.
[13:26] <pbx> skinux, sounds like you're using lubuntu and it relabels that app
[13:26] <skinux> I haven't installed Lubuntu
[13:26] <hateball> KCmetro: cool :)
[13:27] <skinux> Besides, I opened Lubuntu Software Center, it's definitely different.
[13:27] <KCmetro> now, it would help if i didn't kick the dang burner. using a portable bd burner, on the floor attached via usb, only so much space to put it. @#%*^
[13:27] <skinux> Seriously, I was using Ubuntu Software Center 10 minutes ago..it disappeared
[13:28] <sa_> sa
[13:28] <sa_> 7376018110
[13:28] <sa_> hi
[13:28] <KCmetro> skinus: try this from command line: software-center
[13:33] <pbx> skinux, LSC got installed somehow. it's not present on my stock 14.04 system... what system changes have you made since the last time USC was usable?  how are you launching LSC?
[13:34] <skinux> USC was in Unity's left-side launch bar, and before it disappeared I was removing ruby and python packages.
[13:35] <TJ-> skinux: did you remove core python itself, or just additional optional python libraries?
[13:35] <goddard> is one drive more private then google drive in terms of document editing?
[13:36] <goddard> like a web based office solution
[13:36] <skinux> Well, I thought it was just additional libraries, but I just had to reinstall software-center.
[13:36] <illskillz> is google not private enough for you?
[13:37] <illskillz> how much onedrive costs?
[13:37] <goddard> illskillz: gooogle says it is allowed to use your content how it wants
[13:37] <TJ-> skinux: if you removed 1 or more of software-center dependencies, the package maanger is forced to remove the packages that depend on the removed package
[13:38] <skinux> Yeah. Now I have Software Center, Lubuntu Software Center, and App Grid.
[13:38] <illskillz> i thought microsoft says same thing
[13:38] <skinux> goddard: Don't all online office suites do that?
[13:38] <illskillz> liek new windows running inside your anus scanning feces
[13:38] <TJ-> skinux: this is why using the command-line to control the package-manager, and reading what it tells you it wants to do careful, is always a good thing
[13:39] <TJ-> !language | illskillz
[13:39] <skinux> Okay..so I now have 4.6GB free disk space...is that enough to make Ubuntu all-around happy?
[13:39] <illskillz> mkay
[13:39] <goddard> skinux: that is what i was trying to figure out
[13:39] <imbezol> what's the channel for ubuntu 15.10?
[13:39] <skinux> TJ: Well, I didn't think Software Center would left me remove something unsafely without warning.
[13:40] <hateball> imbezol: #ubuntu+1
[13:40] <TJ-> skinux: As I've told you repeatedly; it's not the amount of free space, it's the percentage. For users to be able to write to a file-system it needs to have more than 5% free. At 5% free only privileged users (root) can write to the file-system
[13:40] <imbezol> thx
[13:40] <skinux> Is there really a channel just for 15.10?
[13:40] <illskillz> if you really care about privacy, cloud services are not for this case
[13:40] <TJ-> skinux: #ubuntu+1
[13:40] <skinux> Oh... pre-release versions
[13:40] <hateball> TJ-: to be fair, one could tune2fs and lower that %
[13:41] <illskillz> I always thought public clouds were for liek more public things liek to share not private things
[13:41] <TJ-> hateball: I know, but shhhh! Don't tell skinux else he'll kill the system again!
[13:41] <illskillz> good thing lamers do not know that
[13:41] <hateball> TJ-: haha oops
[13:41] <skinux> Man...fu.....
[13:42] <illskillz> it's september, is there 15.10 already?
[13:42] <illskillz> will my 15.04 self-update?
[13:42] <TJ-> hateball: The original issue was after a package upgrade the user couldn't log-in... after a couple or more days we eventually tracked it down via ~/.xsession-errors because there was a 'failed to write' to log message.
[13:43] <hateball> I see
[13:43] <TJ-> illskillz: Release of 15.10 Wily Werewolf will be towards the end of October
[13:43] <TJ-> hateball: 95% in use on a 59GiB file-system
[13:43] <idemuso> 2 releases per year x.04 and x.10
[13:44] <idemuso> LTS once every 2 years -even number years ergo we are all waiting for 16.04
[13:44] <idemuso> :-D
[13:44] <guillaume_s> re
[13:44] <TJ-> idemuso: I do hope all the regressions in 15.10 get ironed out in time!
[13:44] <idemuso> oh well...
[13:44] <skinux> Is Nepomuk Backup the best backup software?
[13:44] <illskillz> how the sys updater works? will it update 15.04 up to 10
[13:44] <illskillz> ?
[13:44] <idemuso> I dont even bother reviewing the non LTSes
[13:45] <TJ-> illskillz: User's usually get a notification when a new release is available, depending on their softare center settings
[13:45] <idemuso> to be honest though I did look at 15.04 and there was nothing impressive about it
[13:46] <TJ-> idemuso: biggest change in 15.10 is the move to gcc 5
[13:46] <illskillz> what impressive there must be in OS to impress i wonder now
[13:46] <jayjo> I'm trying to start a gunicorn process and get the error:
[13:46] <jayjo> [ERROR] Connection in use: ('127.0.0.1', 8080)
[13:46] <jayjo> but when I run lsof -i tcp:8080
[13:46] <jayjo> there is nothing
[13:47] <TJ-> jayjo: "sudo netstat -ptnl | grep 8080" ?
[13:47] <jayjo> TJ-: produces tcp6       0      0 :::8080                 :::*                    LISTEN      1403/jsvc.exec
[13:48] <TJ-> jayjo: so there you are; jsvc.exec whatever that is :)
[13:48] <jayjo> in that output is 1403 the pid?
[13:48] <jayjo> kill 1403?
[13:49] <TJ-> jayjo: Yes
[13:49] <jayjo> -bash: kill: (1403) - Operation not permitted
[13:49] <jayjo> never had that error before
[13:49] <jayjo> on a kill
[13:49] <illskillz> sudo kill
[13:50] <jayjo> I'm afraid
[13:50] <illskillz> dont be
[13:50] <TJ-> jayjo: do you know what the process is? Don't go killing system processes you don't know
[13:50] <jayjo> that's what I'm saying :) I did start a jetty server on the same server I run a python application
[13:50] <jayjo> it looks like a residual from that jetty server
[13:50] <illskillz> that is jetty service obviously
[13:50] <jayjo> yea it is
[13:51] <TJ-> jayjo: "sudo cat /proc/1493/{exe,cmdline}" might help determine what that process is
[13:51] <zykotick9> jayjo: i was wondering what jsvc.exec was - appears it's from Tomcat...
[13:51] <TJ-> jayjo: oops, s/1493/1403/
[13:53] <jayjo> I'm sure it's from Jetty
[13:53] <guillaume_s> hello
[13:53] <jayjo> but I started and stopped the service with /etc/init.d/jetty start/stop
[13:54] <TJ-> jayjo: Which ubuntu release is it?
[13:54] <jayjo> 14.04
[13:55] <TJ-> jayjo: "sudo initctl list | grep 1403"
[13:56] <jayjo> no output
[13:56] <TJ-> jayjo: OK. initctl isn't always reliable if the process was forked
[13:56] <TJ-> jayjo: check the Parent PID column of "ps -efly | grep 1403" (the column following the process's own PDI)
[13:57] <TJ-> jayjo: if it was started the system init daemon, the PPID will be 1
[13:57] <jayjo> S ubuntu    1724  1607  0  80   0   932  2615 pipe_w 13:57 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto 1403
[13:58] <ash_work> are multiple sites on 1 line of the host file the same as spreading them out over multiple lines? (redeclaring the site? eg: http://hastebin.com/jevemewure.avrasm)
[13:59] <TJ-> jayjo: the process has gone; all you got there was the grep process :)
[13:59] <TJ-> ash_work: "man 5 hosts"
[14:01] <BlitzHere> Can someone help? Is my drive broken? http://i.imgur.com/AaKpiZU.png
[14:02] <BlitzHere> Thanks!
[14:03] <wsdjeg> \exit
[14:04] <Chuck_Norris> BlitzHere: do you have systems hangs ?
[14:04] <BlitzHere> Chuck_Norris: Not my OS drive
[14:04] <BlitzHere> Encrypted ext4 drive
[14:04] <BlitzHere> WOuldn't mount
[14:05] <BlitzHere> So, I'm running fsck.ext4 on it
[14:05] <BlitzHere> I have no idea what it all means though
[14:06] <oimi> Hey all, is there a way to play media files (mp3) through a console player on a password protected directory on the server ? something like mplayer  --playlist=http://user:pass@server/dir/playlist.m3u
[14:07] <Exagone313> Hello, I have a problem on Ubuntu server. The resolution on grub is fine, but after it it is too large. How to always keep the grub's resolution? Thanks for helping
[14:07] <Chuck_Norris> BlitzHere: that means you have bad sectors i think, the OS could not read bad sectors, so that can't mount it most likely
[14:08] <BlitzHere> 16 blocks beginning at 1048576 and now more bad sectors beginning at 1572864 http://i.imgur.com/Anwj9nQ.png
[14:09] <BlitzHere> Chuck_Norris: Yes, but I was wondering if the filesystem is just corrupt or if the hard drive is broken.
[14:09] <BlitzHere> 16 blocks beginning at 1M and again at 1.5M?
[14:11] <Chuck_Norris> BlitzHere: there is a utility i think it's call "disk" that tells you the health of the disk, did you check that ?
[14:11] <lgin>  /join #jmeter
[14:12] <BlitzHere> Chuck_Norris: Good point. I should check gnome-disk-utility
[14:12] <Chuck_Norris> BlitzHere: search for "disks" in dash, and see after "Assessment"
[14:14] <Chuck_Norris> BlitzHere: http://i.imgur.com/hSWh2ck.png
[14:16] <Chuck_Norris> well... sry back to mah movie
[14:16] <BlitzHere> Those options are blanked out for this disk
[14:16] <BlitzHere> :P
[14:17] <BlitzHere> No drive settings
[14:17] <BlitzHere> No SMART data & self test
[14:17] <BlitzHere> Wut
[14:19] <BlitzHere> complete output so far
[14:19] <BlitzHere> http://pastebin.com/jtTAAPWh
[14:19] <BlitzHere> I ran this
[14:19] <BlitzHere> fsck.ext4 -c -D -f -k -y -v
[14:19] <BlitzHere> running it with -a borked out with an error asking me to run manually
[14:20] <valentinos> hello everyone
[14:21] <valentinos> i want help about my ubuntu desktop 14.04
[14:22] <valentinos> guys
[14:22] <valentinos> i want help about my ubuntu desktop 14.04
[14:22] <BlitzHere> just ask
[14:23] <mtn> valentinos, Ask your question and if anyone can help they will respond.
[14:24] <BlitzHere> Hope fsck works out. There's important data on that drive but I do have a backup with a friend a few miles away. I wish I just knew if I should just buy a new drive or just let fsck run for a bit...
[14:24] <BlitzHere> or format
[14:25] <slykens> Hi all - hoping to get some insight into targetcli with trusty... more specifically, this just doesn't ready for primetime when using the qla2xxx FC driver, lots of crashes and rtslib has to be manually patched to even validate the configuration. I rolled back to trusty from vivid where it seemed to be even more of a disaster. so i am asking, is it me or is it just not ready for production?
[14:25] <valentinos> i install unity 8 but i have problem because does not login an tilt, and i decided to remove it
[14:25] <valentinos> when i go to login from default ubuntu unity does not login
[14:26] <valentinos> my password is sure correct
[14:26] <Almoullim> a
[14:27] <k1l_> valentinos: make sure .Xauthority is owned by your user:user in your home
[14:29] <valentinos> I had such a situation in the past when I upgraded my graphig card but i put ctrl+alt+f1 and i write command and i solve the problem but now i dont remind the command
[14:30] <vooze> Hi, So i just installed ubuntu 15.04 and broadcom driver worked in "try ubuntu before install" but now when i press activate under Drivers it just does from "use this" to "do not use" option. :/
[14:30] <valentinos> k1l_ : I had such a situation in the past when I upgraded my graphig card but i put ctrl+alt+f1 and i write command and i solve the problem but now i dont remind the command
[14:32] <valentinos> anybody to help me please
[14:34] <k1l_> valentinos: do ctrl+alt+f1, "ls -al" and see if the .Xauthority is owned by root:root or user:user. (or other folders are owned by root). if so do "sudo chown user:user .Xauthority" (set user as your username)then come back with ctrl+alt+f7
[14:35] <valentinos> ok friend i tried it thank you very much
[14:35] <zykotick9> k1l_: sidenote, when in a VT, the ctrl isn't required just alt+F# works.
[14:35] <k1l_> zykotick9: ah nice to know
[14:36] <zykotick9> sidenote #2, when in VT ctrl+<left or right arrow keys) also works
[14:36] <zykotick9> s/ctrl/alt/  oops
[14:37] <ct4er> hello
[14:38] <fRit_^> hello
[14:38] <lw> hello
[14:39] <fRit_^> can anyone check this? https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/3ke6mk/apparmor_profile_ptbitmessage_ubuntu_1404_lts/
[14:39] <fRit_^> lw: hi
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> fRit_^  what's in the link?
[14:40] <Pici> /36/36
[14:41] <nick_name333> :(  why do I have to "forget" my wireless network each time I restart my computer? Ubuntu 14.04
[14:43] <fRit_^> MonkeyDust: ?
[14:44] <fRit_^> looking for apparmor specialist :)
[14:45] <Knight80> Hello everyone
[14:45] <Knight80> I'm having some problems with ppa-purge
[14:45] <Knight80> I'm trying to delete repositories with it
[14:45] <Bashing-om> !ppa-purge | Knight80
[14:46] <idelo> is it like add-apt-repository -r ?
[14:46] <Knight80> This is what I type: sudo ppa-purge ppa:ingalex/super-boot-manager
[14:46] <Knight80> And this is what I get:
[14:46] <Bashing-om> Knight80: Note the key thing " revert back to what is in our repository" .
[14:46] <Knight80> PPA to be removed: ingalex/super-boot-manager ubuntu
[14:46] <Knight80> Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: ingalex/super-boot-manager ubuntu
[14:47] <idelo> |add-apt-repository
[14:47] <idelo> !add-apt-repository
[14:47] <idelo> :(
[14:47] <Knight80> !apt-add-repository
[14:48] <Pici> What would the factoid have told you about it?
[14:48] <Bashing-om> Knight80: " sysop@1404mini:~$ apt-cache show ingalex >> E: No packages found " // What does the author of this 3rd party softwar advise on the method to remove ?
[14:49] <valentinos> k1l_ thank you very much man
[14:49] <valentinos> cheers
[14:50] <valentinos> k1l_: thank you very much man
[14:50] <valentinos> k1l_: saving me :) cheers
[14:51] <valentinos> bye
[14:51] <Knight80> Bashing-om I can't remove any of my repositories, not just that one
[14:51] <Knight80> Bashing-om I'm trying to remove many others, but I get the same error on all of them...
[14:51] <fRit_^> any apparmor specialist? :)
[14:53] <Aqui1a> Hey guys. I upgraded to 15.04 last night, and it made a problem I had even worse. At the time, no input devices were detected. Now, no input OR output devices are detected.
[14:53] <Bashing-om> Knight80: 1st is to insure that the system is up-2-date, and the package manager is happy . What returns ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt-get -f install ' ?
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> Knight80  what's in /etc/apt/sources.list ?   use a pastebin
[14:54] <topmot> Aqui1a thank god for that backup huh
[14:55] <Aqui1a> topmot: Well I was having so many issues prior to the update, I really couldn't give a toss! lol
[14:55] <nick_name333> I have a laptop with only Ubuntu (14.04 LTS). If I want to install Windows 7 also, what steps do I need to take? If I create an Ubuntu installation ISO, will it contain the correct partition tools (Gparted?)
[14:56] <ttyk> Can anyone help me?
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> ttyk  start with a question
[14:57] <Knight80> MonkeyDust http://pastebin.com/23rdsiUA
[14:57] <topmot> nick_name333 start with installing W7 then install ubuntu -> your life will be so much easier
[14:57] <ttyk> ive got problem with connecting wifi router via internet cable ;c
[14:58] <Knight80> Bashing-om sudo apt update is working
[14:58] <nick_name333> topmot: I already have ubuntu installed on the computer though.
[14:59] <SchrodingersScat> nick_name333: windows will likely take over the bootloader, gotta be ready for that, backups etc.
[14:59] <Knight80> Is 'sudo apt-get update' the same as 'sudo apt update'?
[15:00] <Bashing-om> Knight80: So far so good. 15.04 is the install, and sources.list is default. Let's see the 3rd party stuff ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | pastebinit ' .
[15:00] <SchrodingersScat> Knight80: different programs afaik
[15:00] <topmot> nick_name333 my advice: back up your data and your config files and your whole drive separately. Make an ubuntu recovery cd. Install W7 (will probably destroy grub / efi) on a separate partition. Use ubuntu recovery CD -> try to recover GRUB etc. if it fails reinstall ubuntu.
[15:00] <Bashing-om> Knight80: "apt' has been revamped and updated from "apt-get" .
[15:00] <idelo> nick_name333: its better to install windows first, I think if you want to install over ubuntu, you'll do a complicated procedure
[15:01] <nick_name333> how do i get rid of ubuntu, its "GRUB" bootloader (which I don't know much about) and install win7 fresh?
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> nick_name333  first win, then lin ... windows would ruin your grub menu and you'd come here for help to repair grub
[15:02] <nick_name333> what bootloader do I need, and how do I get it?
[15:02] <topmot> nick_name333 : just install W7 from the CD it will take over the bootloader automatically.
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> nick_name333  do you want dual boot?
[15:02] <eugenio_> hi every body, I just reinstalled ubuntu 15.04 however on reboot I got error: no such device: XXXXXXXXXXX Entering rescue mode...
[15:02] <eugenio_> any hints?
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> nick_name333  keep it in the channel
[15:03] <eugenio_> I followed a lot of guide, but no results...crying!!!
[15:03] <nick_name333> (just type your name first, then my message?)
[15:04] <topmot> nick_name333 yes
[15:04] <TJ-> eugenio_: You're at the "grub rescue>" command line?
[15:04] <eugenio_> TJ-: yes
[15:04] <nick_name333> So I need to just finish making my Ubuntu ISO bootable stick, then plug in my Win7 stick, overwrite everything with Win7, and start again?
[15:05] <TJ-> eugenio_: type 'set' and tell us what the values of "root=" and "prefix=" are
[15:05] <chatango> im back with disk recover
[15:05] <nick_name333> And then its much simpler to get Ubuntu afterwards (I definitately need Ubuntu also)
[15:05] <topmot> nick_name333 probably the fastest way yes
[15:05] <nick_name333> LOL I see myself coming back here soon with many more questions!
[15:06] <eugenio_> TJ-: root=hd0 prefix=(hd0)/boot/grub
[15:06] <topmot> nick_name333 if you do it that way then almost everything i self explanatory. Ubuntu installs itself nicely next to any WIN os.
[15:06] <chatango> instead doing ddrecover is there way to just serch for especific files or directories. like home and files like *.js and *.html
[15:06] <topmot> nick_name333 windows however will steamroll any existing os.
[15:07] <TJ-> eugenio_: OK, now type 'ls' (LiSt) and tell us what is reported
[15:07] <Knight80> Bashing-om http://paste.ubuntu.com/12328881/
[15:07] <chatango> fsck recovered 1 pasrtition but not the one i need
[15:07] <Bashing-om> Knight80: look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/12328881/ .
[15:07] <eugenio_> (hd0) (hd1) (hd1,gpt2) (hd1,gpt1)
[15:08] <eugenio_> TJ-: (hd0) (hd1) (hd1,gpt2) (hd1,gpt1)
[15:08] <Knight80> Bashing-om Ok, thank you :)
[15:08] <TJ-> eugenio_: OK, hd0 is a disk with no partitions. hd1 is a disk with 2 GPT partitions. Does that sound liek your system?
[15:09] <Knight80> It's a mess, isn't it?
[15:09] <eugenio_> TJ-: I know I have sda1 and sda2
[15:09] <TJ-> eugenio_: Do you know which of sda1 and sda2 has the OS installed in?
[15:09] <eugenio_> TJ-: on the installation I set sda1 as / and sda2 as /home
[15:10] <eugenio_> TJ-: sda1 surely
[15:10] <TJ-> eugenio_: YAY! OK, here's how to fix this boot: "set root=hd1,gpt1)" then "set prefix=(hd1,gpt1)/boot/grub"
[15:10] <TJ-> eugenio_: Typo!  "set root=hd1,gpt1" then "set prefix=(hd1,gpt1)/boot/grub"
[15:10] <Bashing-om> Knight80: OK, ingalex is no longer supported .. last support was 'raring' / see: http://ppa.launchpad.net/ingalex/super-boot-manager/ubuntu/dists/ . As I continue looking .
[15:11] <eugenio_> TJ-: sda1 has been formatted whereas sda2 were not formatted, I would like to use the same home I had before
[15:11] <Shogo> in 15.04, who controls the cpu fan speed by default?
[15:11] <jost> On a 14.04.3 server, I apt-get update does not work. I get lots of lines like this: "W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/universe/binary-amd64/Packages  503  Service Unavailable [IP: 91.189.91.15 80]"
[15:11] <TJ-> eugenio_: at this point we're not concerned with the /home/ all we are doing is helping the GRUB boot-loader find the files it needs to start Linux. After Linux starts you can sort out the rest.
[15:11] <jost> downloading the data using wget works, disabling the firewall does not make a difference
[15:12] <jost> but there are more firewalls in front of the server...
[15:12] <TJ-> eugenio_: now do "ls $prefix/" and you *should* see some files listed from the OS file-system, amongst them we want to see "grub.cfg"
[15:12] <Bashing-om> Knight80: Next " /kxstudio-debian/libs/ubuntu lucid " Mixing distro and as well a real old repo is a formula for disaster.
[15:12] <nick_name333> Sorry if this question is too Windowsish: I can only find my 32-bit copy of Win7 right now. If I install using that, then get Ubuntu running, will I be able to overwrite just the Win7 partition with the 64-bit version at a later date (when I find the other damn stick)?
[15:13] <maddawg2> nick_name333, yes
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> nick_name333  no windows support in this channel
[15:13] <maddawg2> but depends how you install ubuntu
[15:13] <Knight80> Bashing-om I see
[15:13] <maddawg2> if you install it on a seperate partition then you should be able to reinstall windows 7 on the other partition with no issue
[15:14] <testerbit> It seems ubuntu does not keep emacs 24.4 on apt-get, a server I use is running emacs 24.3, what is the simplest way for my sys admin to update to emacs latest stable (not an emacs user)?
[15:14] <nick_name333> maddawg2 ok, what do I need to know? Which way should I install Ubuntu?
[15:14] <maddawg2> just dont install ubuntu inside Windows 7
[15:14] <Knight80> Bashing-om What do you suggest me doing?
[15:14] <nick_name333> Oh right, yeah that's cool. Thanks
[15:14] <eugenio_> TJ-: i see it
[15:14] <maddawg2> nick_name333, before you install windows partition the drive
[15:14] <Knight80> Bashing-om I would like to clean all that stuff
[15:14] <maddawg2> nick_name333, do you know how to use gparted to partition the drive?
[15:15] <TJ-> eugenio_: Fab! do "insmod normal" then "normal" and you should get the GRUB boot menu
[15:15] <eugenio_> TJ-: yes!!!!!! you are great!!!!
[15:15] <Laurenceb> hi
[15:15] <nick_name333> maddawg2 The other people told me to let Windows "steamroll" everything and install its own bootloader etc. Then during the Win7 installation, create my partitions, and put Win7 on one of them.
[15:15] <Laurenceb> how can I reset the usb subsystem?
[15:15] <nick_name333> maddawg2 i.e. don't use GParted
[15:16] <Laurenceb> I've lost all my usb ports
[15:16] <maddawg2> nick_name333, well you can do it that way... i always use gparted
[15:16] <Bashing-om> Knight80: Still looking, and I take back my last, kxstudio-debian looks to be legit.
[15:16] <maddawg2> but that's just preference
[15:16] <maddawg2> so yea during windows install make two partitions
[15:16] <maddawg2> select one that you want to install windows 7 to
[15:17] <maddawg2> then after win7 is installed put a ubuntu disk or usb flash drive in
[15:17] <TJ-> eugenio_: once it has booted, first thing to do is to identify the drive letter of the root file-system: "mount | grep '/ '  " then do "sudo grub-install /dev/sdX1" *replace X with the drive letter*  then "sudo update-grub"
[15:17] <maddawg2> and boot from it, and do an install like you nromally would but during the HD selection process select the partition you createed in windows 7
[15:17] <maddawg2> make sure you select the partition that doesnt have windows on it obviously
[15:18] <maddawg2> now when you get the 64-bit version you can just overwrite the first parttion
[15:18] <Aqui1a> Hey guys. I upgraded to 15.04 last night, and it made a problem I had even worse. At the time, no input devices were detected. Now, no input OR output devices are detected.
[15:18] <maddawg2> tho i will say i'm not sure if you are gonna have to fix the bootloader when done
[15:18] <maddawg2> aquilia does your monitor work?
[15:18] <nick_name333> maddawg2 people say it's much easier to get ubuntu running when starting out with Win7, than the other way around.
[15:19] <maddawg2> nick_name333, seems about the same to me
[15:19] <maddawg2> depends which bootloader you are using tho
[15:19] <maddawg2> Grub or Windows
[15:19] <maddawg2> you will have to edit the bootloader to have the windows partition
[15:19] <maddawg2> but thats pretty simple
[15:20] <eugenio_> TJ-: I did mount | grep '/' and a list of directories, what should I do?
[15:21] <ahmed__> hi all, please I have a problem with virsh on ubuntu
[15:21] <nick_name333> just to be clear, I need to use my Win7 stick to "steamroll" ubuntu out of existence, then follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[15:22] <ahmed__> I need qemu_system-x86-64 but I did not find it in the virsh capabilities
[15:22] <maddawg2> nick_name333, yes so you need two partitions
[15:23] <ahmed__> anyone could help with virsh issues on ubuntu ?
[15:23] <compdoc> ahmed__, if you have a 64bit cpu and 64bit ubuntu, qemu will be 64bit
[15:23] <ahmed__> yes mine is that
[15:23] <ahmed__> and I found qemu 64 bit exists in /usr/local/bin folder
[15:24] <compdoc> what are your issues?
[15:24] <Knight80> Bashing-om I'm trying to remove Google Earth repository as well
[15:24] <ahmed__> but when I do virsh capabilities  , I didnot find it in the guests
[15:24] <compdoc> whats the command you use? I'll try it
[15:24] <eugenio_> TJ-: on sudo grub-install /dev/sda1 I got this output: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12328969
[15:25] <ahmed__> virsh capabilities
[15:25] <Aqui1a> Sorry maddawg2, I missed your message. My monitor does work. :)
[15:25] <compdoc> <arch name='x86_64'>
[15:26] <compdoc> I have several guests. some are 32bit, and some 64
[15:26] <ahmed__> yes  I do not have at the guests  <arch name='x86_64'>
[15:26] <zykotick9> TJ-: does eugenio_ have some reason to install grub to a partition vs. MBR?
[15:26] <ahmed__> I have it only at the host
[15:27] <TikityTik> I'm having issues trying to connect to my VPN server via wifi over ubuntu, my connection keeps getting reset.
[15:28] <TJ-> eugenio_: Sorry, my typo!  do "sudo grub-install /dev/sdX" *replace X with the drive letter*  then "sudo update-grub"
[15:28] <TikityTik> is there a proper guide on setting up an ubuntu openvpn client for connecting to the internet?
[15:28] <TJ-> eugenio_: What a time for the screen-locker to crash and block me :)
[15:28] <nick_name333> My startup disk creator is working at making a bootable USB of the Ubuntu install ISO. It's been hanging on 96% for ages, is this normal?
[15:29] <Laurenceb> hi, how can i restart usb?
[15:29] <Aqui1a> Could someone please help me with my sound issue? D:
[15:29] <genii> nick_name333: You should leave it until it either completes successfully, or completes with some error that can be examined
[15:30] <Laurenceb> can anyone help me restart usb?
[15:31] <eugenio_> TJ-: no problem, I gave then grub-install and I got: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12329022
[15:32] <Knight80> Bashing-om Are you still looking?
[15:33] <eugenio_> TJ-: the second command: update-grub gave me:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12329029
[15:33] <eugenio_> TJ-: is this correct?
[15:35] <nick_name333> I'm in my BIOS setup. I can't find a way to change the list of priorities for booting  - there's only 1 option - called "[ubuntu]". What about my memory stick?
[15:36] <TJ-> eugenio_: OK, the first one shows a problem. I'm not sure how you managed to install Ubuntu on BIOS/GPT and not create a BIOS Boot Partition.
[15:36] <Fjorgynn> Hello
[15:36] <nick_name333> There's "Add Boot Option"
[15:36] <Fjorgynn> I've got a problem. When I use pavucontrol/pulseaudio I can't hear my speakers
[15:36] <TJ-> eugenio_: I suspect the system only booted because GRUB is installed to the first few sectors of the other drive, the one GRUB saw as (hd0)
[15:37] <maddawg2> nick_name333, i dont know your bios
[15:37] <nick_name333> But under Add Boot Option> USB > there's many options <.disk>, <boot>, <casper>,...autorun.inf, md5sum.txt, wubi.exe... Which one do I choose so that my laptop will "see" the bootable ISO I just made?
[15:37] <nick_name333> For ubuntu
[15:37] <maddawg2> but most computer have a hotkey (like F12) that you can press to get into a boot device menu
[15:38] <TJ-> eugenio_: The grub-install errors talking about 'blocklists' means that GRUB could find no safe location to write its 'core.img'. On GPT we usually have a BIOS Boot Partition of about 1MB to hold that. Is there any spare space on sda ("sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda") ?
[15:38] <maddawg2> nick_name333, what do you mean?
[15:38] <TikityTik> is there a proper guide on setting up an ubuntu openvpn client for connecting to the internet?
[15:38] <nick_name333> OK sorry I got it. F12 - now I have the right menus etc... "try ubuntu without installing", "install ubuntu"... thanks
[15:39] <maddawg2> TikityTik, a client or a server?
[15:39] <nick_name333> I mainly just wanted to check that my stick worked OK, since I'm going to be overwriting Ubuntu with Win7 soon.
[15:39] <maddawg2> you need a server to c onnect to befroe you can use the client TikityTik
[15:40] <TikityTik> maddawg2: I've setup a server, but I'm having issues with my client.
[15:40] <TikityTik> maddawg2: I keep getting connection reset when I'm using my VPN over wifi.
[15:40] <Knight80> How come I can still see repos in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ if I erased them with Ubuntu Software Centre?
[15:40] <TikityTik> maddawg2: so it keeps restarting the connection
[15:40] <maddawg2> TikityTik, that sounds like an issue with your wifi
[15:41] <maddawg2> does it work over wired?
[15:41] <TikityTik> maddawg2: I'm using wifi at my school
[15:41] <TikityTik> maddawg2: it works over wired
[15:41] <maddawg2> then it's the wifi
[15:41] <TikityTik> maddawg2: well how can I get it to work with this wifi?
[15:41] <eugenio_> TJ-:  this is the output: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12329083
[15:41] <maddawg2> TikityTik, no idea what wifi you are using or how the school has it configured
[15:42] <TikityTik> me neither, but what can I do?
[15:42] <wildc4rd> anyone had any luck getting Netflix to work on ubuntu?
[15:42] <eugenio_> TJ-: actually I think there is just 1 Mb before sda1
[15:42] <sienez> I have a dual boot windows/ubuntu set up. Now I want to reinstall Windows. I remember reading somewhere that it is recommended to install Linux after Windows in dual boot setup because windows overwrites grub entries. is that still true?
[15:42] <maddawg2> TikityTik, probably not much...
[15:42] <maddawg2> TikityTik, you can try it on another Wifi at another location
[15:42] <maddawg2> verify it works there
[15:42] <maddawg2> then if it does it verifies that something is up with the school's network
[15:43] <maddawg2> TikityTik, are you able to connect at all?
[15:43] <Bashing-om> Knight80: Ouch ! Per: http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Documentation:Manual:installing_kxstudio ; What you have there is a professional level operating system, NOT a mere application. In my humble opinion will take someone familiar with that operating system to assit you. The best I can say - feeble - is to fresh install .
[15:43] <maddawg2> because another possibility is that they block the port your vpn server and client connect on
[15:44] <TikityTik> maddawg2: I tried changing it to TCP 443, it connects to websites
[15:44] <TikityTik> but the connection keeps restarting
[15:45] <Bernzel> Is there any chance that "sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean" would remove something important? Or personal files?
[15:45] <TikityTik> thus there's a delay as eachtime the connection restablishes
[15:45] <TJ-> eugenio_: Hmmm, you have a few problems there. The easiest to fix is that partition #1 should be type 0x8300, not 0xEF00. The harder problem is you need to find 1MiB of space (2048 sectors) to create another partition of type 0xEF02 (BIOS Boot). If you can do that, then 'grub-install' will be successful.
[15:45] <maddawg2> Bernzel  no
[15:45] <Knight80> Bashing-om I'm just trying to delete the repositories I don't need
[15:45] <TJ-> eugenio_: I have to leave now; someone else should be able to help if you get unstuck.
[15:45] <Bernzel> maddawg2, good thanks!
[15:45] <maddawg2> TikityTik, then there might be something your school is doing
[15:45] <maddawg2> i cant tell you for sure tho
[15:46] <maddawg2> all i can do is say to test it on another wifi and see if it works
[15:46] <eugenio_> TJ-: I just have this space free
[15:46] <maddawg2> if it works there then you'll know the problem is with the school
[15:46] <Knight80> Bashing-om I mean, I installed an DAW called Ardour, and I needed to add kxstudio repositories
[15:46] <Knight80> a DAW, sorry
[15:46] <maddawg2> alternatively you can try another vpn service like Private Internet Access...  that's what i use everywhere i go
[15:46] <TJ-> eugenio_: someone might be able to help you shrink sda1 and the file-system inside it by say 2MiB ( best to have more space than less) to create a gap between sda1 and sda2 where you can put the BIOS boot partition
[15:47] <maddawg2> helps me bypass my school's and works' filters
[15:47] <Knight80> I'm on Ubuntu 15.04
[15:47] <maddawg2> TJ- he can use gparted to do that
[15:48] <eugenio_> maddawg2: hi, do you mean gparted from live session?
[15:49] <Knight80> So you don't recommend me to install repositories from older Ubuntu versions?
[15:50] <auronandace> Knight80: never mix repos from different releases, it will break your system
[15:50] <Knight80> auronandace Thank you
[15:50] <sienez> is there a way to boot into ubuntu without grub available? I have a dual boot windows/ubuntu and I want to reinstall windows, which will overwrite grub. so what to do?
[15:51] <auronandace> sienez: you can reinstall grub afterwards
[15:51] <auronandace> !grub | sienez
[15:51] <maddawg2> you can do that OR you can use the windows bootloader
[15:52] <maddawg2> but you'll have to modify it's entries manually
[15:52] <maddawg2> i prefer grub tho
[15:53] <Knight80> auronandace Will you please help me removing ppa's?
[15:53] <Knight80> 'sudo apt-get update' returns the error 404
[15:53] <Knight80> And it does not complete the task
[15:53] <auronandace> !ppapurge | Knight80
[15:54] <Knight80> auronandace That's what I'm trying to do
[15:54] <auronandace> Knight80: i never use ppas so all i can do is point you to that above factoid sorry
[15:54] <sienez> auronandace, thanks. so all I need is a bootable drive with ubuntu on it and then I run it in try-out mode to repair grub?
[15:55] <Bashing-om> Knight80: I do regret - in a limited way - that with kxstudio as a operating system it is way above my abilities to advise on how to remove it . And even if one could remove it, I highly doubt that the resulting operating system would be functional.
[15:55] <auronandace> sienez: essentially yes
[15:56] <sienez> auronandace, great, now I just need to figure out how to do that with only 1 usb stick available.. thanks for your help :)
[15:58] <Knight80> Bashing-om Are you telling me my OS is not Ubuntu?
[15:58] <Knight80> Just asking...
[15:59] <cfhowlett> Knight80, easy enough to test.  open a terminal:  cat /etc/issue | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:00] <Knight80> cfhowlett http://termbin.com/14sa
[16:00] <cfhowlett> seems like legit ubuntu
[16:01] <Knight80> cfhowlett That's what I'm telling Bashing-om, I've got Ubuntu with kxstudio repositories installed
[16:01] <eugenio_> I have a few problems. My partition #1 should be type 0x8300, not 0xEF00. The harder problem is you need to find 1MiB of space (2048 sectors) to create another partition of type 0xEF02 (BIOS Boot). If I can do that, then 'grub-install' will be successful, anybody can help me?
[16:01] <cfhowlett> Knight80, then you mixed repos --- not recommended for many reason.
[16:01] <cfhowlett> !gparted | eugenio_
[16:02] <arcsky> encrypt your harddrive what program do you guys recommend?
[16:03] <cfhowlett> !encryption | arcsky
[16:03] <Knight80> cfhowlett Nothing seems to go wrong...
[16:03] <auronandace> Knight80: dependencies will go wrong, very wrong
[16:04] <cfhowlett> this ^^^
[16:04] <Knight80> cfhowlett So, I shouldn't install any ppa's at all?
[16:04] <auronandace> Knight80: mixing repos is a sure fire way to break your system, unfortunately it isn't really something you undo
[16:04] <cfhowlett> Knight80, it's one thing to add a ppa (unsupported) it's a whole different level of pain to mix repos.
[16:05] <Knight80> cfhowlett I just installed kxstudio's ppa
[16:05] <Knight80> It's a ppa after all, am I right?
[16:06] <cfhowlett> Knight80, yep.  they are supposed to support it.
[16:06] <rymate1234> Just installed fglrx on my laptop with AMD / Intel hybrid graphics - the drivers seem to work fine when using a single screen, but when I use my second monitor the output seems to be , massively offset - see this image http://images.rymate.co.uk/images/lat0b7F.jpeg
[16:06] <ioria> eugenio_, it'a a fresh install ? nothing on it ?
[16:07] <Knight80> What do you recommend me to do, then?
[16:08] <cfhowlett> Knight80,  depends on your goal.  making music?  sudo apt install ubuntustudio-music          otherwise, download and install kxstudio or artistx
[16:08] <cfhowlett> or fedora-jams
[16:09] <Knight80> cfhowlett But... ubuntustudio-music is another distro's package, isn't it?
[16:09] <cfhowlett> !studio | Knight80
[16:10] <wildc4rd> anyone had any luck getting Netflix to work through chrome on ubuntu?
[16:10] <eugenio_> ioria: the / is a fresh install, /home I used the once I had before
[16:10] <tgm4883> wildc4rd: uh, it just works?
[16:11] <Knight80> cfhowlett So I have to start from scratch, I should reinstall the whole OS again, right?
[16:11] <auronandace> !netflix | wildc4rd
[16:11] <arcsky> ubottu: i want to encrypt full drive
[16:11] <underyodr> wildc4rd: I think You need it mimicking it's on windows
[16:11] <arcsky> cfhowlett:  i want to encrypt full drive
[16:11] <cfhowlett> Knight80, for the sake of your sanity, yes clean install ubuntu
[16:12] <cfhowlett> arcsky, I've not done an encryption, can only point to that factoid
[16:12] <Knight80> cfhowlett And then ubuntustudio-music?
[16:13] <cfhowlett> Knight80, yes you can add the ubuntustudio-music metapackage to a plain vanilla ubuntu
[16:13] <auronandace> Knight80: or you could just get the ubuntu studio iso
[16:14] <digs> I am curious how I can update my 12.04 system but keep the currently installed major version of php. We have a legacy application that I must support for another 9 months and I can't move beyond php 5.3.x - Maybe first, I should know how to tell what version of apt-get upgrade will install?
[16:15] <cfhowlett> digs, test it.  apt-get -s upgrade will demo the coming attractions without installation
[16:15] <somsip> !info php5 trusty | digs (if you go from LTS to LTS, you will have to pin 5.3.10)
[16:15] <Knight80> I rather install Ubuntu 15.04 and then ubuntustudio-music, I would like to be able to do many other things apart from making music.
[16:15] <cfhowlett> digs, test it.  apt-get -s dist-upgrade      >>> 12.04.4
[16:15] <digs> Thank you guys.
[16:15] <digs> how do I "pin" v5.3.10 ?
[16:16] <auronandace> digs: 12.04 is supported until 2017 so you don't need to upgrade before your 9 months are up
[16:16] <cfhowlett> !pin | digs
[16:16] <somsip> !pinning | digs (not sure how well this will work across version upgrades though)
[16:16] <Knight80> There's no package named ubuntustudio-music in Ubuntu's software Centre...
[16:16] <Knight80> :(
[16:17] <cfhowlett> Knight80, no.  there's not.  it's a META-package.  and that's why I gave you the terminal command.
[16:17] <OerHeks> Knight80, metapackage is ubuntu-studio
[16:17] <digs> apt-get -s upgrade | grep php -- Result: Conf php5 (5.3.10-1ubuntu3.19 Ubuntu:12.04/precise-updates [all]) - How do I know what version it will move to?
[16:18] <somsip> digs: if you go to 14.04, 5.5.9
[16:18] <Knight80> What a mess
[16:18] <joe_w> Dp
[16:18] <cfhowlett> Knight80, my error.  ME!  I was wrong.    apt-cache show ubuntustudio-audio        will display
[16:18] <digs> Ahh, no, I plan to stay withing 12.04 - just updating current packages.
[16:18] <kiran> hey
[16:18] <somsip> digs: 5.3.10 was final for 12.04 IIRC
[16:18] <digs> okay.
[16:19] <somsip> !info php5 precise | digs
[16:19] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: Knight80 Per: http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Documentation:Manual:installing_kxstudio ; kxstudio is much more than a simple PPA .. I read it that a Operating System will be installed ? Do I miss-understand ?
[16:19] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, that's what I read as well!
[16:19] <digs> I have created an instance copy so if things are foobar I can just delete and start over.
[16:19] <digs> Thanks for the prompt info all.
[16:19] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, I recall a tutorial to add the repos to ubuntu, but I think that was unofficial
[16:19] <Knight80> How do I install that META-package then?
[16:19] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: K; I do feel the better in my recomendation of a clean fresh install .
[16:20] <thevaliantx>  #raspberrypi
[16:20] <cfhowlett> Knight80, sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio
[16:20] <Knight80> ok
[16:20] <Knight80> sorry for my ignorance
[16:20] <cfhowlett> Knight80, and you ARE adding this to a clean install of ubuntu, right?
[16:21] <Knight80> cfhowlett Not yet, I was just testing
[16:21] <Knight80> cfhowlett Do you know ardour?
[16:22] <cfhowlett> Knight80, fair enough.  test like this: apt-get -s install ubuntustudio-audio        will tell you what's coming
[16:22] <cfhowlett> Knight80, I've know OF ardour, but never used it.  audacity has satisfied my needs
[16:23] <Lara_> ?
[16:24] <Knight80> cfhowlett Sorry about my bad english...
[16:25] <Lara_> Hello, Lara here
[16:25] <cfhowlett> Knight80, no need to apologize at all!  happy2help!  and for the record, I've lived in Beijing for over 3 years.  the most fluent thing I can say in mandarin is "I don't speak Mandarin."
[16:25] <cfhowlett> Lara_, ask your ubuntu question
[16:28] <easyOnMe> hi fellas
[16:28] <Knight80> cfhowlett So you think my english is bad, hahaha
[16:28] <Knight80> cfhowlett :)
[16:28] <Knight80> I'm spanish
[16:28] <easyOnMe> hi cfhowlett
[16:28] <cfhowlett> what can I say Knight80.  I'm an english teacher.
[16:28] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, greetins.
[16:28] <easyOnMe> just asking how do I get rid of these pop ups whenever I browse something on the internet
[16:28] <thevaliantx> cfhowlett, those who do ... do.  those who don't ... lol
[16:29] <easyOnMe> I just noticed this happening today
[16:29] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, firefox has plugins to block popups
[16:29] <Lara_> I just update my ubuntu 14.04 to 14.10 v
[16:29] <OerHeks> easyOnMe, use a popup plugin, many browsers have them in a store
[16:29] <Lara_> and graph environment not works anymore
[16:29] <cfhowlett> Lara_, then you updated to a no longer supported versoin.  unwise.
[16:29] <auronandace> Lara_: 14.10 is no longer supported
[16:30] <easyOnMe> OerHeks: I am using google's chromium on linux
[16:30] <Lara_> wtf
[16:30] <Lara_> if its a newer version
[16:30] <easyOnMe> will there be anything like that for chromium on linux
[16:30] <cfhowlett> Lara_, no need for that kind of language.
[16:30] <Lara_> sry*
[16:30] <auronandace> Lara_: 14.04 is an LTS release, 14.10 was not
[16:30] <auronandace> !lts
[16:30] <fellayaboy> what do you get lara
[16:30] <fellayaboy> your graphic environment doesnt work?
[16:31] <Lara_> yes
[16:31] <Lara_> i can control alt f1 and log in via console
[16:31] <fcanela> hi, #ubuntu. I suggested this channel to Lara_
[16:31] <Lara_> but need my graph env.
[16:31] <OerHeks> easyOnMe, sure. use the chrome webstore, there are many, choose the one you like best
[16:31] <fcanela> as long as he explained me by phone, seems like xorg is unable to find a screen
[16:31] <cfhowlett> Lara_, 14.10 is end of life and no longer supported.  install a supported version; 14.04, 15.10 or 12.04
[16:31] <fellayaboy> Lara_, i pmed you
[16:31] <fcanela> tried to locate the xorg.conf but seems ubuntu changed way too much since last time I had to dig on this
[16:32] <OerHeks> !pm
[16:32] <thevaliantx> anyone in here use Raspberry PI2?
[16:32] <Lara_> hi fcanela ty
[16:33] <daftykins> thevaliantx: can you ask the actual question?
[16:33] <auronandace> thevaliantx: if you want to run ubuntu on that you may want the arm channel
[16:33] <auronandace> !arm | thevaliantx
[16:33] <Lara_> so how can i upgrade a newer version?
[16:33] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | Lara_, or download the .iso and clean install
[16:34] <thevaliantx> daftykins, i did ask the actual question, lol .... if someone says "hey, i use raspberry pi" then i have additional questions ;)
[16:34] <daftykins> thevaliantx: no - you're just wasting peoples time like that, if you asked the NEXT question - that's how things work around here. However i second the suggestion of the ARM channel.
[16:35] <cfhowlett> thevaliantx, for future reference :  https://inkscape.org/media/cms_page_media/56/ask-smart-questions.pdf
[16:35] <Lara_> I dont care if I lose any file or smthing. Im just want to format it with last version. But the problem is i cant boot from usb or dvd. I 've already the .iso downloaded and burned in a usb and a dvd
[16:35] <thevaliantx> isn't the Arduino associated with ARM?
[16:35] <daftykins> thevaliantx: that's not a relevant point of discussion here.
[16:35] <OerHeks> Lara_, really? how did you install ubuntu now?
[16:36] <Lara_> so, any way to update version via console?
[16:36] <thevaliantx> daftykins, i'm just going to sit back and lol at you.  It would say more than anything I could say ;)
[16:36] <Lara_> yes, 3hs of my life lost since I updated
[16:36] <cfhowlett> Lara_, yes in the previously sent wiki: eolupgrade.  it really helps to read the resources people send you
[16:36] <Lara_> oh, missed it
[16:37] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | Lara_
[16:37] <Lara_> im reading now
[16:37] <fellayaboy> lara view the pm
[16:37] <fcanela> how did you burnt it, Lara_ ?
[16:37] <daftykins> thevaliantx: ok you enjoy that then. perhaps when you come back you can realise that this is an ubuntu support channel :)
[16:37] <fellayaboy> Lara_, i would go here and perform the commands at the bottom
[16:37] <fellayaboy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/491018/unity-on-14-10-desktop-issue-after-dist-upgrade
[16:37] <Lara_> I did it fewtimes before, is well done
[16:37] <Lara_> but this laptop is doomed :P
[16:37] <fcanela> that's not what I asked, but OK :)
[16:37] <xela2244> hi, libreoffice is not working, when i open writer i get loged out.
[16:38] <daftykins> Lara_: why can't you boot from USB or DVD?
[16:38] <thevaliantx> daftykins, what exactly are you doing to "support" anyone here?  Serious question here.  No harm, no foul.  I've yet to see you offer anything positive in the time I've been here today.  You don't have to answer.
[16:38] <Knight80> Do you recommend me not to install ppa's at all, then?
[16:38] <daftykins> thevaliantx: no i just got home, is that a problem?
[16:38] <xela2244> lara are you using windows?
[16:38] <Knight80> I mean, is it risky?
[16:38] <fellayaboy> lol xela2244
[16:38] <thevaliantx> daftykins, we're talking about the time that we're both here.  i don't care about your personal life.
[16:39] <cfhowlett> Knight80, yes it's risky.  "unsupported" is unsupported for a reason.
[16:39] <Lara_> daftykins: Idonbt know. Old pc
[16:39] <auronandace> thevaliantx: stop trying to pick an argument, you want support then go to the appropriate channel
[16:39] <Lara_> fellayaboy: Ok
[16:39] <daftykins> thevaliantx: i've supported people in here for years and solved plenty of queries, now take yours to the relevant channel as suggested and stop trying to stir drama please :)
[16:39] <fellayaboy> Lara_, let me know if all those commands worked fo ryou
[16:39] <Lara_> cfhowlett: dont follow u
[16:39] <Knight80> Not even ppa's made for the same Ubuntu version?
[16:40] <OerHeks> Lara_, you have been given the EOL page, why do you switch to an other solution?
[16:40] <cfhowlett> Lara_, what statement did I confuse?
[16:40] <Lara_> fellayaboy: Nope
[16:40] <fcanela> Knight80, another spaniard here
[16:41] <thevaliantx> auronandace, it's called defending yourself.  Free speech, pal.  Nothing nasty was exchanged.   I'll put you on ignore next.
[16:41] <fellayaboy> you tried all of them? event he ones at the bottom where you reinstall?
[16:41] <fcanela> I install ppa from time to time, but I prefer repositories version if there is not a good reason to stick to ppa
[16:41] <cfhowlett> Knight80, ppa's are *unsupported*.   now, YOU may decide to risk your system from a "trusted" ppa, but UBUNTU doesn't trust those ppas.  so you break it, you buy it.  Just my $0.02.  YMMV
[16:41] <fcanela> i.e: you need a updated version of the software or something like this
[16:41] <fcanela> as cfhowlett says, you're risking your pc to the maintainer truthworthy
[16:41] <Knight80> fcanela How do you know?
[16:41] <Lara_> cfhowlett: eolupgrade
[16:42] <fcanela> maybe he decides to change the binary with a backdoor and you are doomed
[16:42] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | lara                      READ THIS WIKI!!!!
[16:42] <tgm4883> cfhowlett: not trying to nitpick, but Ubuntu doesn't support those PPA's. It does trust them though (in the sense of signing keys and all that)
[16:42] <xela2244> does anyone know why libreoffice writer won't open, i'm using kubuntu 15.04
[16:42] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, noted.
[16:42] <Knight80> fcanela are you spanish?
[16:42] <fcanela> yes, I am, mate
[16:42] <fcanela> hope my answer was useful for you
[16:43] <Knight80> fcanela it was :)
[16:43] <PCatinean> how does one close all ports on a ubuntu server except for ssh/http/http and ftp?
[16:43] <Knight80> fcanela where in spain?
[16:43] <daftykins> !ufw | PCatinean
[16:43] <PCatinean> ufw, wasn't it called something different?
[16:43] <Lara_> ubottu: im reading*
[16:43] <PCatinean> like i...something
[16:43] <cfhowlett> fcanela, Knight80       take the offtopic dicussion to pm or #ubuntu-offtopic please
[16:43] <fcanela> I think it's offtopic here
[16:44] <Knight80> cfhowlett Sorry
[16:44] <cfhowlett> thank you.
[16:44] <daftykins> PCatinean: ufw uses iptables.
[16:44] <PCatinean> iptables, yes I wanted to say that but it sounded silly :D
[16:44] <daftykins> a clue is in the actual message *cough*
[16:46]  * Lara_ slaps fcanela around a bit with a large fishbot
[16:48] <krapper> 15.04 Server Install.. Software RAID-1 fails at GRUB boot loader... console shows grub-installer failed with error code 1... lot of Google info but not much in way of solution.. any ideas?
[16:48] <Lara_> ubottu:
[16:48] <Lara_> with CODENAME being your release, e.g. quantal.
[16:48] <Lara_> dont get it.
[16:49] <auronandace> Lara_: each release has a code name
[16:49] <finetundra_> hey folks, if I were to run xinit in a different tty, would that cause issues with an existing session?
[16:49] <auronandace> !14.10
[16:49] <cfhowlett> Lara_, trusty is the codename for 14.04
[16:49] <Lara_> ah
[16:49] <Lara_> but how you know it?
[16:49] <Lara_> cfhowlett:
[16:50] <cfhowlett> !14.04 | Lara_
[16:50] <BarryD9545> I'm on 15.04, why do my Computer and Terminal icons vanish every restart?
[16:50] <Lara_> so if i want to update to v.15
[16:51] <PCatinean> A simple example of allowing port 22 and denying everything else would be
[16:51] <PCatinean> sudo ufw enable sudo ufw allow 22 sudo ufw deny all?
[16:51] <PCatinean> though that last one I did not see in the documentation
[16:52] <Lara_> what is the codename for Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet)
[16:52] <fcanela> 15.05 it's not LTS
[16:52] <fcanela> go for 14.04 until 16.04 is here
[16:52] <fcanela> (imho)
[16:53]  * cfhowlett ONLY installs LTS
[16:53] <Lara_> Ok
[16:53] <Lara_> ty fcanela
[16:53] <fcanela> you're welcome
[16:53] <Lara_> trying now
[16:53] <xela2244> hi, libreoffice crashes on kubuntu 15.04, any solutions?
[16:54] <fcanela> xela2244, give more information about the crash so we can have a clue about what's happening
[16:54] <fcanela> logs? error?
[16:54] <xela2244> ok
[16:54] <wileee> xela2244, run libreoffice in a terminal and look for errors
[16:55] <OerHeks> xela2244, you might want to try to remove the libreoffice config > ~/.config/libreoffice  < and start again
[16:55] <skinux> Where is the best tutorial for creating a deb package for either a set of php scripts (which together form a software) or a PHP Archive File?
[16:55] <xela2244> i have done that but is not working
[16:55] <Knight80> I'm removing repos with Ubuntu's Software Centre but they still appear in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ...
[16:55] <OerHeks> !build | skinux
[16:56] <skinux> I'd also like ot know how to create a deb package for properly installing software which comes as ZIP archives, such as FoxIt Reader.
[16:56] <Pici> skinux: See http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/
[16:56] <skinux> No, not compiling from source...php scripts don't get compiled.
[16:57] <fcanela> I usually remove them from sources.list directly, I do not know if there is a better practice nowadays
[16:57] <Knight80> fcanela You mean /etc/apt/sources.list?
[16:58] <fcanela> that was in my old debian, now it's into the directory you said
[17:00] <BarryD9545> Why can't I mice Application=link icons in 15.04?
[17:00] <daftykins> fcanela: PPAs can be added and removed via CLI commands if that's what you mean?
[17:00] <daftykins> there's also ppa-purge
[17:00] <BarryD9545> no, just moved to a different sopt om the desktop.
[17:00] <Papa2five> Help
[17:00] <daftykins> Papa2five: what's wrong?
[17:01] <Papa2five> Just trying to get documentation about Orc
[17:01] <BarryD9545> When I try to drag an Application=Link icon to a different spot on the desktop, it either copies it or gives an error
[17:01] <Papa2five> I mean Orc
[17:02] <BarryD9545> still opens web page
[17:02] <Papa2five> Ilc
[17:02] <wileee> BarryD9545, details and context are important.
[17:02] <Papa2five> Bad keyboard IRC
[17:02] <Lara_> Hi again. Im stuck. In my file sources.list i have a lot of url's -> deb http://...
[17:03] <fcanela> daftykins, just wanted to know if there is a better way for him, maybe as you said
[17:03] <daftykins> Papa2five: Orc IRC? is that a client?
[17:03] <EriC^^> Lara_: pastebin sources.list
[17:03] <Lara_> Does i have to delete the old ones or add
[17:03] <BarryD9545> not my keyboard
[17:03] <fcanela> i'm comfortable editing the file directly, so for me it's ok that way
[17:03] <fcanela> Lara_, I suggest you to backup and replace
[17:03] <Papa2five> No - it's been years since I.  Did this and was looking for automated help
[17:04] <daftykins> automated? i don't believe we've upgraded to AI support yet
[17:04] <Lara_> fcanela: ok, nice way
[17:04] <fcanela> Lara_, how is your installation going?
[17:04] <Lara_> EriC^^: cant pastebin, im not in the same computer
[17:04] <Lara_> rly bad
[17:04] <Lara_> im giving up i think fcanela
[17:04] <fcanela> Lara_, can you install pastebinit apt package?
[17:04] <EriC^^> Lara_: you can comment out the old ones by adding a # at the start of the lines, and use the ones in the eolupgrade site with your ubuntu's codename though
[17:05] <Lara_> EriC^^: hmmm
[17:05] <fcanela> if you pipe anything to pastebinit, it'll paste in pastebin.com for you
[17:05] <Knight80> fcanela The thing is /etc/apt/sources.list shows up different repos than /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[17:05] <Knight80> fcanela shows, sorry
[17:06] <Papa2five> Ok.  Oh I see in the header IRC Info. I'll try that. Thanks dafty
[17:06] <anony_user> How can I move the (X - o) buttons to the right side of windows? I can't seem to find it...
[17:07] <guest-lUj11U> I need help. I did something stupid. From now on, I have to log in instead of a full startup. I dont have access to my admin account: password refused. I know my master password. how can I fix it?
[17:07] <cfhowlett> "master" password?
[17:07] <daftykins> guest-lUj11U: what does "log in instead of a full startup" mean?
[17:07] <guest-lUj11U> yes
[17:08] <guest-lUj11U> or how would you call it?
[17:08] <guest-lUj11U> full startup is for me: getting to my desktop by switching pc on
[17:08] <anony_user> guest-lUj11U, how many users do you have? (root, ...?)
[17:08] <guest-lUj11U> i need only root
[17:09] <guest-lUj11U> @ anoy_user: one user
[17:09] <anony_user> guest-lUj11U, and you can't login. You 're on Guest now?
[17:09] <guest-lUj11U> i was able to log in as guest
[17:09] <guest-lUj11U> yes
[17:10] <guest-lUj11U> i tried to execute a command to go to desktop, but it closed my programs i guess. after a restart, I had the screen that was asking for password.
[17:11] <EriC^^> what command?
[17:11] <anony_user> guest-lUj11U, can you try something like "sudo nano..."? and enter the password
[17:11] <guest-lUj11U> I forgot that command, but it was a short one
[17:11] <guest-lUj11U> i used "sudo"
[17:11] <EriC^^> sudo startx?
[17:11] <guest-lUj11U> "sudo xstart"
[17:11] <guest-lUj11U> or "sudo startx"
[17:11] <EriC^^> don't use sudo with startx
[17:11] <guest-lUj11U> :s
[17:11] <EriC^^> matter of fact, dont use startx with ubuntu unless you know what you're doing
[17:12] <guest-lUj11U> startx sucks
[17:12] <krapper> RAID-1 on 15.04 Server fails at grub-installer.. any ideas?
[17:12] <guest-lUj11U> how can I fix to get again my admin?
[17:12] <EriC^^> guest-lUj11U: press ctrl+alt+f1, login as your user, type sudo chown <your user>: ~/.Xauthority
[17:12] <daftykins> krapper: install it manually from a live session i guess, you'll need desktop though
[17:12] <hendryirvin> hi
[17:13] <hendryirvin> hello?
[17:13] <daftykins> yes?
[17:14] <hendryirvin> well, im new here, but i need help
[17:14] <daftykins> hendryirvin: ask away on one line with detail
[17:14] <cfhowlett> !ask | hendryirvin
[17:15] <hendryirvin> ok, can i upload image to imgur and paste it here, the error message is quite long
[17:15] <guest-o8osWh> hallo. its me again, from the xstart problem. I did ctrl+alt+F1
[17:16] <vooze> Is it somehow possible to enlarge icons in nautilus? :)
[17:16] <guest-o8osWh> but i forgot your advice after that
[17:16] <EriC^^> vooze: ctrl+ mouse wheel
[17:16] <daftykins> guest-o8osWh: you might want to write it down if you only have one computer
[17:17] <vooze> EriC^^, great, can I now make it remember that zoom? :)
[17:17] <EriC^^> guest-o8osWh: you can get back to the desktop wih alt+f7
[17:17] <hendryirvin> ill be back
[17:17] <EriC^^> vooze: preferences > zoom level
[17:18] <EriC^^> guest-lUj11U: after you login with your user, type sudo chown <your user>: ~/.Xauthority
[17:18] <anony_user> I was searching on how to move the "Window controls" on the right side. - Downloaded ''Unity Tweak Tool'' from Soft. Center.
[17:19] <EriC^^> anony_user: you can't unless you modify unity's code or something
[17:19] <vooze> EriC^^, ah great, I see now :D sorry for the stupid question.
[17:19] <anony_user> guest-o8osWh, write it down xD
[17:19] <anony_user> vooze, there are no stupid questions :)
[17:19] <guest-o8osWh> i wrote it down. c ye later!
[17:19] <guest-o8osWh> thx.
[17:19] <anony_user> guest-o8osWh, inform us later
[17:20] <hendryirvin> ok, so here's the problem, my xstart wont run when i type it in terminal and it appear like this X.Org X Server 1.11.3 Release Date: 2011-12-16 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.42-76-generic i686 Ubuntu Current Operating System: Linux server.excharudi.web.id 2.6.32-042stab108.2 #1 SMP Tue May 12 18:07:50 MSK 2015 i686 Kernel command line: quiet Build Date: 12 February 2015  02:51:26PM xorg-serve
[17:20] <hendryirvin> Fatal server error: xf86OpenConsole: Cannot find a free VT: Invalid argument   Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support  	 at http://wiki.x.org  for help.  Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.   ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file. xinit: giving up xinit: unable to connect to X server: No such file or directory xinit: server error
[17:20] <daftykins> dont paste text here!
[17:20] <EriC^^> hendryirvin: why are you using startx?
[17:21] <hendryirvin> ohh, sorry, i dont know the rules
[17:21] <hendryirvin> im on vps ubuntu i want to run a game server
[17:21] <Lara_> Thanks YOU guys, im going home. Trying from home.See you now
[17:21] <hendryirvin> and it requires startx
[17:21] <EriC^^> it requires a gui? do you have a de installed?
[17:22] <hendryirvin> yeah, i got the GUI installed with tightvnc, but the vps dont have display drivers
[17:23] <EriC^^> ok, no idea
[17:23] <hendryirvin> some source said i can use kvm
[17:24] <daftykins> hendryirvin: game servers don't need a GUI
[17:24] <daftykins> hendryirvin: trying to put one on a VPS is a mistake
[17:25] <hendryirvin> so, any solutions with it? im kinda frustrated
[17:25] <hendryirvin> the server use .bat files, but it appears an error display
[17:26] <EriC^^> and the rabbit hole gets deeper
[17:26] <hendryirvin> so i tried to run it with .sh but still no clue
[17:26] <daftykins> no .bat files are Windows
[17:26] <hendryirvin> yeah, i know, so i tried with .sh
[17:26] <daftykins> dare i guess... are you trying to run minecraft?
[17:26] <hendryirvin> nope, unturned
[17:27] <ioria> hendryirvin, you mean something like this ? https://panel.cinfu.com/knowledgebase/6/GUI-Desktop-XWindows-Gnome-installation-on-Linux-VPS-Server-with-Ubuntu-OS.html
[17:27] <daftykins> doing that is a mistake :)
[17:28] <hendryirvin> yeah, i get that GUI working, im online with it right now xD
[17:28] <hendryirvin> the ubuntu desktop
[17:29] <ioria> hendryirvin, you add :1 to tightvnc ?
[17:29] <hendryirvin> yeah
[17:29] <barefoot_> hii
[17:29] <ioria> hendryirvin, ok.... but it's still not a good idea :þ
[17:29] <hendryirvin> its already done thou, im online with the vps right now through tightvnc
[17:29] <guest-veh2W1> hallo. I still have the startx problem.
[17:29] <barefoot_> anyone there
[17:30] <hendryirvin> i know, i just tried to run my friend server
[17:30] <daftykins> guest-veh2W1: did you run the command yet?
[17:30] <ioria> hendryirvin, oky
[17:30] <guest-veh2W1> @daftykins: yes
[17:30] <daftykins> guest-veh2W1: and then rebooted after?
[17:30] <guest-veh2W1> @daftykins: but I still miss authority. maybe a space mistype?
[17:31] <guest-veh2W1> i rebooted after
[17:31] <daftykins> you still what?
[17:31] <hendryirvin> well, any solution with my problem?
[17:31] <guest-veh2W1> I cant access my root account, although i'm shore about password
[17:32] <EriC^^> guest-veh2W1: access your root account?
[17:32] <guest-veh2W1> I can only access my root account from ungraphic mode.
[17:33] <daftykins> hendryirvin: look up info on that game, write a proper script and all should be well. however you won't have much RAM left to run the game running X on a VPS :P
[17:33] <guest-veh2W1> maybe I should know the code to launch graphic mode from command line
[17:33] <EriC^^> guest-veh2W1: why are you launching gui as the root user anyways?
[17:34] <hendryirvin> daftykins: i think so,, but my friend wont understand, need a game server thou
[17:34] <themagma> Hi there, linux is great, but is there any way  to have something like this on linux? https://ontopreplica.codeplex.com/ (it shows any portion of any software, where i can set to click forwarding, or click-trhough, and transparency, etc...)
[17:34] <hendryirvin> its a common vps
[17:34] <guest-veh2W1> I dont understand your question. I want to access my graphic root user again.
[17:34] <hendryirvin> how much storage space that needed to run x?
[17:35] <daftykins> hendryirvin: "common" doesn't mean a thing. and i don't see why your friend needs to understand, you're the one that is trying to get it running :)
[17:35] <hendryirvin> yeah, its been 5 days now, and i still dont get it running
[17:35] <hendryirvin> daftykins: can you help me out?
[17:36] <daftykins> with what
[17:36] <hendryirvin> teamviewer
[17:37] <hendryirvin> i really had no idea right now xD
[17:38] <daftykins> hendryirvin: why on earth are you trying to use teamviewer now when it's already accessed remotely?
[17:39] <hendryirvin> daftykins: i dont know about that
[17:39] <hendryirvin> how?
[17:39] <daftykins> but you said you're using tightvnc?
[17:40] <hendryirvin> yes
[17:40] <hendryirvin> tightvnc for the vps
[17:40] <hendryirvin> im on windows running tightvnc for remoting the vps
[17:40] <daftykins> right...
[17:41] <guest-qjr2ce> Hallo. Its me again. I still have startx problem.
[17:41] <EriC^^> guest-qjr2ce: what do you mean by graphical root? your normal account or the root account?
[17:41] <guest-qjr2ce> @EriC: both. they are the same
[17:42] <EriC^^> you mean the account you can use sudo with?
[17:42] <EriC^^> cause there's an actual "root" user
[17:42] <hendryirvin> daftykins: u remote me with teamviewer to configure the remoted vps
[17:42] <daftykins> hendryirvin: sorry you're about as clear as a foggy day right now :(
[17:42] <hendryirvin> sounds like yo dawg xD
[17:42] <guest-qjr2ce> @Eric: yes
[17:42] <daftykins> hendryirvin: oh i see, no i'm not doing that.
[17:43] <hendryirvin> well, i really had no idea to run it now -_-
[17:43] <EriC^^> guest-qjr2ce: ok, press ctrl+alt+f1, login and then type ls -l ~/.Xauthority
[17:43] <EriC^^> you should see your username instead of root
[17:43] <guest-qjr2ce> @EriC: I can access my sudo account with ctrl+alt+F1. but it stays then in command mode.
[17:43] <EriC^^> press alt+f7 to get back here
[17:44] <EriC^^> guest-qjr2ce: ok, type sudo service lightdm restart
[17:44] <guest-qjr2ce> @Eric: I'll try that
[17:44] <EriC^^> first make sure .Xauthority is right
[17:44] <daftykins> hendryirvin: you'll have to use that fine invention the 'search engine' and find a script that works :)
[17:44] <hendryirvin> daftykins: 3 days now, on search engine trying to figure it out, still no clue
[17:45] <guest-qjr2ce> ...checking my notes...
[17:45] <daftykins> ah well. sorry i don't really like helping with games, don't consider it a real task :)
[17:45] <hendryirvin> its not the game, the startx
[17:46] <anony_user> Anyone experienced with "Unity Tweak Tool" ?
[17:46] <daftykins> yeah startx doesn't belong on a VPS
[17:47] <ninthDimension_> Hello, I'm about to "steamroll" over my Ubuntu install so that I can install Win7, and THEN get Ubuntu back (dual boot).But before I did, I wanted to ask someone what each partition is for, because there are more than I expected and I don't want to delete the wrong one!
[17:48] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: what are you typing from right now?
[17:48] <ninthDimension_> someone else's MBP
[17:48] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo parted -l | pastebinit" would be handy
[17:48] <daftykins> likely you have sda1 for /, sda5 is the extended partition - then sda6 is your swap
[17:49] <ninthDimension_> I have the following - ... OK i;ll try the pastebin...
[17:50] <anony_user> I installed "Unity tweak tool" in order to move the 'window controls' on the right side* but it doesn't work... Anyone experienced this problem? (14.04.3)
[17:51] <soman> Hi all. I have a distro with deb-based package manager and I broke libc6 packet when tried to install a package downloaded from debian website. How can I replace that package? I installed 'libc6-debu' package which provides libc6 but libc6 version isn't changed.
[17:51] <daftykins> soman: only ubuntu is supported here, if you have some other you need to find their support.
[17:52] <soman> daftykins: the same problem will be 1 to 1 in ubuntu so the only one solution exist (if any)
[17:52] <daftykins> soman: we don't know that for sure, what if they use other package names? :)
[17:52] <daftykins> anony_user: you seen http://askubuntu.com/questions/174292/how-can-i-move-all-the-window-controls-to-the-right-or-left/451330#451330 ?
[17:52] <ioria> !info libc6
[17:53] <ninthDimension_> OK here's the pastebin link for my drive partitions: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12329847
[17:53] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: ah EFI install, backup your data then just delete everything.
[17:55] <soman> daftykins: they could use other names :) but the question is: how can I replace back my package if I have a CD with package? dpkg -i 'pack' sucesfully install the package but libc6 version still has the same as package from debian which is broke my original one.
[17:56] <ninthDimension_> daftykins_ OK. I was surprised to see a large 462GB partition, called "file system" and then a 3.2GB partition called "OS" (These were the labels shown in the Win7 installation - it freaked me out so I cancelled it)
[17:57] <fRit_^> hello, is anyone who is good in apparmor?
[17:57] <ninthDimension_> There was "ESP" (524MB), "DIAGS" (42MB), "OS" (3.2GB), "File System" (462GB), "Swap" (34GB) and a little free space.
[17:57] <thopiekar> Hi, is here someone from the Xorg SWAT? I just found a packaging problem with the nvidia-* drivers. I wanted to install the opencl drivers, but installing it it removes all opencl applications. The nvidia opencl packages say they provide "libopencl1", but currently the generic opencl package is called "ocl-icd-libopencl1" except "libopencl1". I think adding "ocl-icd-libopencl1" to the provides will quickly fix that
[17:57] <thopiekar>  problem :)
[17:57] <daftykins> soman: sorry but i don't understand you
[17:58] <ninthDimension_> I didn't know which one to choose to delete in the Windows installer.
[17:58] <daftykins> thopiekar: SWAT is a PPA - this is an official channel so that is not supported here. you must contact them (but i'd recommend not using those graphics driver PPAs at all)
[17:58] <anony_user> "As I wrote in technical details, Canonical hardcoded buttons position in their Unity plugin." - Whaaaaaat? wow
[17:59] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: you should boot your ubuntu install media and delete every single one with gparted
[17:59] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: bear in mind though, windows 7 needs modifications to install in EFI mode - so you're going to need to install ubuntu as legacy if you install Win7 as legacy.
[17:59] <daftykins> !efi | ninthDimension_ see here for more information
[18:00] <thopiekar> daftykins: The problem is also available in Ubuntu's repositories. I thought the Xorg SWAT is the team working on the Xorg packages at Canonical//Ubuntu
[18:00] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: but other people have advised me to use the Win7 installer to overwrite everything, and create a partition to later use for Ubuntu. Then after Win7 is finished installing, go about installing Ubuntu. Not using GParted,
[18:00] <ash_work> so, just as a note, I installed qt4-qtconfig which I thought would enable bold text on skype... like, sending a message *with bold text*
[18:00] <ash_work> but all it did was make everything bold
[18:01] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: that's terrible advice, you'd leave empty space - but you would not make partitions for ubuntu from windows
[18:01] <guest-SdIv75> @EriC: I tried your advice, but the loging of my sudo account cancels immediately after confirming pw.   :(
[18:01] <ash_work> I uninstalled qt4-qtconfig and everything remained bold
[18:01] <ash_work> shucks
[18:01] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: really this task is very simple, do you still have ubuntu booted?
[18:01] <EriC^^> guest-SdIv75: did you try ls -l ~/.Xauthority ?
[18:02] <guest-SdIv75> @Eric: I did. it connects.
[18:02] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: yes I do, I didn't overwrite anything. People said it's simpler to begin with Win7 and then install Ubuntu, than it is to begin with Ubuntu and install Win7.
[18:03] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: yeah Windows first is preferable. do you have anything you need from ubuntu backed up already? and you've got a win7 DVD / flash drive to hand?
[18:03] <guest-SdIv75> @Eric: but I cant login in the GUI with my sudo account. It cancels immediately. A small window appears and it is very hard to read.
[18:03] <KCmetro> any recommendations for arp poisoning detection apps? (find arp spoofing)
[18:04] <KCmetro> IP&ARP, that is
[18:04] <guest-SdIv75> @Eric: at that window, one button is named Cancel and the other is named.
[18:04] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: Yeah I wanted to do it the simplest way possible, because I have no experience of Ubuntu. I do have a bootable Win7 mem stick (I made with YUMI), a bootable Ubuntu mem stick (I made in the "Startup disk creator" from ISO). And I don't have anything to back up from Ubuntu since the computer is new.
[18:05] <curiousx> KCmetro: http://autoscan-network.com/download/linux/
[18:05] <guest-SdIv75> @Eric: I think I have to re-install all.   :(
[18:05] <anony_user> join #ld4all
[18:05] <anony_user> woops
[18:05] <guest-SdIv75> my linux is fucked up.
[18:06] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: so you don't need any data from it presumably?
[18:06] <daftykins> oh my bad, misread
[18:06] <EriC^^> guest-SdIv75: try making another account and see if it works
[18:06] <EriC^^> guest-SdIv75: when you typed ls -l ~/.Xauthority did it say your username or root?
[18:06] <guest-SdIv75> @Eric: an other guest account?
[18:06] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: ok so open a terminal and run "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=2M count=10"
[18:07] <guest-SdIv75> @Eric: It mentions my username within a path.
[18:07] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: what does that do? It's a copy command right?
[18:07] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: now reboot and you'll find the disk is totally blank, so you can boot windows 7 media and install
[18:07] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: nope zero writing
[18:07] <KCmetro> curiousx: thank you
[18:07] <Chuck_Norris> KCmetro: np
[18:07] <EriC^^> guest-SdIv75: type sudo adduser <user> to create a new account and test it
[18:08] <baja> hi guys i am running command traceroute google.com and i am only getting 40 hops and no ipaddress for routers. what command can get me all routers ip for all 40 hops?
[18:08] <EriC^^> guest-SdIv75: does it say something like -rw------- 1 <your user> <your user> 46 Sep  9 11:44 .Xauthority ?
[18:08] <daftykins> baja: what are you trying to achieve? your request seems particularly pointless
[18:08] <daftykins> baja: also, what makes this an ubuntu support question? :)
[18:09] <baja> im trying to get all ip addresses of all routers from mine to google.com
[18:09] <JOW> ssh: connect to host 10.202.111.34 port 22: Connection refused
[18:09] <JOW> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:09] <JOW> ssh: connect to host 10.202.111.34 port 22: Connection refused
[18:09] <EriC^^> guest-SdIv75: or -rw------ ... root root .... ?
[18:09] <JOW> TJ- ssh: connect to host 10.202.111.34 port 22: Connection refused
[18:10] <daftykins> JOW: no more spamming thanks
[18:10] <daftykins> !backbox | backbox
[18:10] <JOW> daftykins sorry
[18:10] <backbox> hi
[18:10] <JOW> daftykins just wanted to make my point clear
[18:10] <baja> i am trying to get all ip address from my router to google.com
[18:10] <daftykins> JOW: really? i don't see a point being made.
[18:10] <JOW> daftykins the point that I was desperate
[18:11] <KCmetro> checking out ettercap, what are the differences here? --> -common -graphical
[18:11] <baja> with command traceroute
[18:11] <daftykins> baja: why?
[18:11] <JOW> daftykins ssh: connect to host 10.202.111.34 port 22: Connection refused
[18:11] <KCmetro> does the -common include graphical & text?
[18:11] <JOW> daftykins help?
[18:11] <daftykins> JOW: yeah repeating the same text doesn't offer anymore of an explanation. i'm ignoring you now.
[18:11] <JOW> TJ- !!!
[18:11] <baja> its an exercise im trying to achieve whether its possible like written online on website
[18:11] <JOW> daftykins but what explanation can I offer?
[18:12] <JOW> daftykins it's just like that, not sshing and I need to ssh
[18:12] <daftykins> baja: what website? this isn't an ubuntu query, ask ##networking :)
[18:12] <Senji> how long would it take to burst out 2^48 udp packages of 102 bytes each
[18:12] <daftykins> *datagrams
[18:12] <daftykins> Senji: also off topic :)
[18:12] <baja> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/what-is-iptrace-command-in-bash/
[18:12] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: is that equivalent to what is proposed in this help article from Microsoft about removing Linux: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/247804
[18:13] <KCmetro> nevermind, going with -common
[18:13] <guest-pvZN4o> @Eric: I know the problem now. After logging in, I have a small popup with  buttons: "Cancel" and "Report problem". My sudo account cant log in any more in GUI.
[18:13] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: just do it how i suggested.
[18:13] <Olotila> how do I keep Modified attribute when copying pictures from camera? From desktop?
[18:13] <Olotila> Gnome
[18:13] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: that info is out of date
[18:14] <baja> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/what-is-iptrace-command-in-bash/
[18:14] <Olotila> or Can I change the original Date back?
[18:14] <JOW> Hey everyone I'm trying to ssh and I'm getting the port 22: Connection refused error message...
[18:14] <EriC^^> guest-SdIv75: try making another account and see if it works, login from ctrl+alt+f1 and type sudo adduser <user>
[18:14] <JOW> can anyone help with that?
[18:14] <EriC^^> guest-pvZN4o: ^
[18:15] <daftykins> Olotila: the date taken is inside metadata, the file system date is irrelevant
[18:15] <genii> JOW: The machine at  10.202.111.34  is running Ubuntu and has openssh-server package installed and enabled?
[18:15] <JOW> I've entered there with ssh many times genii
[18:16] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: d'oh you're right, they're talking about floppy disks. So is the point that I need to delete ALL the partitions? Is the Ubuntu OS held in "OS", separate from "file system"?
[18:16] <guest-pvZN4o> @Eric: could this help: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo ?
[18:16] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: ugh. please just run the command i shared, i don't see what you're trying to find out
[18:17] <genii> JOW: It makes it difficult to assist when you answer questions with non-sequiturs
[18:17] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: your ubuntu installation was done as EFI, this means multiple extra partitions as per the EFI specification were created - Windows 7 will not use these, so the disk should be wiped
[18:17] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: Thanks. I honestly appreciate your help - I just like to understand what I'm doing a little better, when it comes to overwriting/deleting partitions etc. That's very helpful though.
[18:17] <vooze> I'm trying to change cursor size of unity (ubuntu 15.04) and follow a guide to use dconf in org.gnome.desktop.interface.cursor-size from 30 to 38, but after each reboot or log out its changed back to 30. :/
[18:17] <JOW> sorry genii
[18:18] <EriC^^> guest-pvZN4o: no, use ctrl+alt+f1
[18:18] <JOW> I'll do better next time genii
[18:18] <Olotila> daftykins, I just want to organize the pictures monthly ...
[18:18] <guest-pvZN4o> @Eric: but I'm still figuring out how to repair
[18:18] <EriC^^> guest-pvZN4o: login, type sudo adduser testuser, then press alt+f7 and try to login to that new account
[18:19] <guest-pvZN4o> i was able to log in in new account.
[18:19] <EriC^^> guest-pvZN4o: try adding the new user, if it works it means it's just a config issue in your user's home dir, then you can try renaming some dirs to see which one is causing the error
[18:20] <sharpy35> hey guys, sorry but can you please help me out with this topic? http://askubuntu.com/questions/672392/ubuntu-with-pcie-card i am desperatly trying to get this to work but always failing
[18:20] <EriC^^> guest-pvZN4o: ok, type mv ~/.compiz ~/.compiz.old , and mv ~/.config/compiz-1 ~/.config/compiz-1.old
[18:20] <guest-pvZN4o> @EriC: i expect a config issue in user's home dir
[18:20] <hoijui> i got a used thinkpad x200 with the 82567LM Gigabit ethernet chipset, and when i boot ubuntu 15.04, i get no eth0
[18:20] <hoijui> i suspect a hardware failure, but how could i be sure of that?
[18:21] <daftykins> Olotila: why not open the view on the camera, make the folders and copy/move over just the ones for each month then?
[18:21] <TJ-> JOW "connection refused" means there is no SSH server on that IP address. My guess is your NUC has been given a different IP address and you're trying to connect to the wrong IP address.
[18:22] <genii> JOW: Let's assume then the machine at  10.202.111.34  is properly set up. Is the other machine you are trying to ssh in from on the same network as that one, or is it out on the internet some other place?
[18:22] <JOW> same network genii
[18:23] <JOW> same university genii
[18:23] <genii> TJ-: Seeing as the range he's trying to reach is one of the reserved ranges, I wanted to see if he's trying to reach it from outside first ;)
[18:23] <ioria> hoijui, check ifconfig   ,  sudo lshw -c Network , try sudo ifp eth0
[18:23] <ioria> *ifup
[18:24] <TJ-> genii: This has been a long-running issue. JOW is on a uni campus, he has an Intel NUC that gets a DHCP lease, and the IP address keeps changing. He has the last known IP saved on his PC and uses that to connect to the NUC. When the DHCP lease changes he loses connectivity. We've recommended several times now either to get the IT Admin to allocate a static lease, OR use a Dynamic DNS service
[18:25] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: OK did what you suggested in terminal and rebooting...
[18:25] <JOW> TJ- I'll do that but I think it stoped changing!! =)
[18:25] <genii> JOW: If you do: telnet 10.202.111.34 22      ...does it say something like SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-8    ( or anything else in fact)  or does it just disconnect?
[18:25] <JOW> TJ- I configured manually and I think it stopped changing now
[18:25] <genii> TJ-: Ah, I see.
[18:25] <hoijui> ioria, ifconfig shows only loopback and wlan0, no eth0
[18:25] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: hooray! you're a life saver, now it's all "unallocated space"
[18:25] <TJ-> JOW: "connection refused" means no service is listening, so if you can 'ping' the NUC, then you've got either a firewall blocking it, or the sshd is not running
[18:25] <ioria> hoijui, sudo lshw -c Network
[18:25] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: ah i wouldn't go that far :P
[18:25] <hoijui> ioria, sudo lshw -c Network shows "*-network UNCLAIMED"
[18:26] <Olotila> daftykins, I do not want the date to be false after organizing
[18:26] <hoijui> for the ethernet controller
[18:26] <JOW> cannot ping TK-
[18:26] <JOW> TJ-
[18:26] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: so now Win7 is installing. Once that is done, what will I need to do to install ubuntu? I have that stick I made from the ubuntu ISO.
[18:26] <genii> JOW: You should open a support ticket with whoever is supposed to be administering the machine you are trying to reach, it should have a static IP or else an internal name which can be found by dns
[18:26] <TJ-> JOW: right... its IP address has changed
[18:26] <ioria> hoijui, can you paste that and lspci -nn ?
[18:26] <JOW> genii you mean do that on intel NUC right?
[18:27] <cx405> Hello, sorry, Debian user here. Does current ubuntu have "console-setup" and /etc/default/locale. Nobody has an idea at #debian, perhaps someone can help me? This is a question about LANG in that file.
[18:27] <hoijui> ioria, ok, but will take a min or two, as i have to transfer it by usb stick....
[18:27] <blo_> @EriC: files not found.  :s. Im a noob.
[18:27] <JOW> TJ- interesting because I have ifconfig telling me the IP
[18:27] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: you'll need to work out how to boot it in legacy mode, it depends on your computer type - usually there's a keypress after power on to get a one-time boot menu - often devices are listed twice, once for EFI and once for legacy - my link earlier should've shown the difference
[18:27] <pbx> cx405, yes on the second question - http://dpaste.com/2HKVRWJ
[18:28] <EriC^^> blo_: ok, try to login to your
[18:28] <EriC^^> 1sec
[18:28] <genii> TJ-: Yes, he should apply to have the machine be given the same IP, I agree
[18:28] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: I'm OK with that, it's F2 and then twiddle some settings. Is the goal to be able to boot from mem stick?
[18:28] <JOW> genii I got pretty much what you said
[18:28] <blo_> @EriC: thats still corrupt.
[18:29] <blo_> @EriC: I'm that guest one. I made "bl" account.
[18:29] <EriC^^> blo_: try to login to your old account using ctrl+alt+f1, to get a command line, then type mv ~/.config ~/.config.old
[18:29] <blo_> @EriC: I'm that guest one. I made "blo" account.
[18:29] <pbx> cx405, and yes on the first - http://dpaste.com/2Z8F6Z7
[18:29] <cx405> pbx: thanks. The question is this. The /etc/default/locale is parsed by console-setup, which is a script. The value of /etc/default/locale is changed by it. HOWEVER, if I define a variable directly in console-setup (TESTVAR="yay"; export TESTVAR), then this variable does not survive - echo $TESTVAR shows nothing.
[18:29] <JOW> genii but then it didn't bring to prompt again and when I typed enter it gave me a message "protocol mismatch. connection closed by foreign host"
[18:29] <lucidguy> I would be very grateful if someone can assist with this issue..  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12330126/
[18:29] <pbx> cx405, i have no console-setup on $PATH
[18:30] <amine> hello
[18:30] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: yes but as legacy, not EFI - also, if you just clicked next in the 7 installer - you'll need to resize 7 to make some empty space at the end of the disk - you can do this from diskmgmt.msc
[18:30] <amine> where is here guys !!
[18:30] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: i'd also do all the windows updates before bothering to put ubuntu on
[18:30] <daftykins> amine: ubuntu support channel, as per topic.
[18:30] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: shit i forgot to do that
[18:30] <JOW> TJ- but what about the noip site... I was trying that...
[18:30] <cx405> pbx: console-setup is called on boot. I added "echo "We are parsed by $0 as $(id)">>/tmp/locale.log   at the end of /etc/default/locale. I got two entries - kbd, and then console-setup.
[18:31] <cx405> pbx: to rephrase this even simpler. Why does "LANG=xxx" in /etc/default/locale gets parsed; but not "TESTVAR=xxx" in /etc/init.d/console-setup, where console-setup: . /etc/default/locale; export LANG; TESTVAR=xxx; export TESTVAR. ?
[18:31] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: oh right can it be resized after the fact, once Win7 is finished installing?
[18:31] <TJ-> JOW: It depends if you configured the NUC to correctly inform noip when it gets a new IP address.
[18:31] <hoijui> ioria, https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8845910
[18:32] <JOW> TJ- hehehehe I stopped without finishing I think... I'll try to continue now
[18:32] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: yeah once you reach the desktop
[18:32] <pbx> cx405, don't know i'm afraid. hopefully someone else is more knowledgeable
[18:32] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: phew! i thought i'd fucked it!
[18:32] <cx405> why an environment variable, sourced from some file and exported by some script at boot - gets exported and visible. However environment variable at end of this script - not.
[18:33] <cx405> pbx: thats not a problem, thank you very much for helping so far!
[18:33] <JOW> TJ- there's something wrong... the browser doens't load any site...
[18:33] <JOW> TJ- hehehehe
[18:34] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: language in here please :)
[18:35] <ioria> hoijui, uname -r ?
[18:35] <JOW> TJ- now is pinging... very weird...
[18:35] <hoijui> ioria, i think the e1000e driver should work for my card, but it is loaded, and unused
[18:35] <frenda> Is it possible to stretch file for printing? I mean this way http://uploadkon.ir/fl/dd/76233 to use more space of the paper
[18:36] <frenda> It's a pdf
[18:36] <hoijui> ioria: 3.19.0-15-generic
[18:36] <ioria> can't believe this
[18:36] <ninthDimension_> sorry i have a foul mouth.
[18:36] <charlesW> Hello everyone
[18:36] <frenda> Hi
[18:36] <cx405> pbx: So under Ubuntu console-setup just defines some values. Funny enough, nothing from these values is exported. Very weird :^/
[18:37] <hoijui> ioria, if the hardware was broken, could this explain this situation? or would rahter eth0 show up, but not work propperly?
[18:38] <ioria> hoijui, it shows up in lspci ... idk
[18:38] <hoijui> mmm
[18:38] <charlesW> Is it possible to access my Ubuntu 14.04 LTS partition from a DOS 6.22 command line?
[18:38] <ioria> hoijui, yes, that chipset got issues... but fixed
[18:38] <hoijui> there is also no eth0 entry in /etc/network/interfaces
[18:38] <cx405> charlesW: Depends only on filesystem support under DOS.
[18:38] <tgm4883> charlesW: doubtful
[18:38] <hoijui> mm ok
[18:39] <hoijui> wish i had a windows laying around, so i could check if it works there :D
[18:39] <cx405> charlesW: http://www.askvg.com/how-to-access-linux-partitions-ext2-ext3-from-windows-in-dual-boot-system/
[18:39] <ioria> hoijui,  you can try this https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/15817 but it's ridicolous
[18:41] <ioria> hoijui,  try to reload the module, and ifdown wlan0.... really idk
[18:41] <charlesW> I used to use DosBox to play my games on, But Some of them don't work right.
[18:41] <hoijui> ioria, ok, will try..
[18:42] <hoijui> how to reload?
[18:42] <ioria> hoijui,  sudo modeprobe
[18:42] <daftykins> charlesW: i'm pretty sure you're not using actual DOS in 2015 :)
[18:43] <ioria> hoijui,  sudo modprobe
[18:44] <charlesW> daftykins: I am using ubuntu 14.04 LTS on one hard drive and DOS 6.22 on a second hard drive.
[18:45] <daftykins> charlesW: not gonna happen.
[18:45] <leeohaddad> test
[18:45] <frenda> Is it possible to stretch file for printing? I mean this way http://uploadkon.ir/fl/dd/76233 to use more space of the paper
[18:46] <charlesW> daftykins: My games run better in the DOS environment.
[18:47] <tgm4883> charlesW: you aren't going to be able to get to your ubuntu partition from dos
[18:47] <hoijui> ioria ... these are only the sources, right? to build them, i woudl have to install buidl tools first.. and as i have no internet connection on the machine, and anyway my connection here is very very slow..
[18:47] <oussama> bonsoir
[18:47] <hoijui> i will try trisquel 7 tomorrow, 64bit version (now have 32bit ubuntu 15.04)
[18:48] <ioria> hoijui,  wifi not working ?
[18:48] <charlesW> tgm: ok...thanks
[18:48] <hoijui> can i not somehow force the e1000e driver to try to use this chipset and present it as eth0?
[18:49] <ioria> hoijui,  you have wireless ... or not ?
[18:50] <daftykins> charlesW: yeah ok, but DOS is not going to read EXT4 and so on
[18:50] <hoijui> ioria, i have wireless, yes, but no wireless network
[18:50] <charlesW> daftykins: that's what I wanted to know. thanks.
[18:50] <hoijui> i can connect at uni tomorrow though
[18:51] <hoijui> reading these old bug reports now that you probably read before..
[18:51] <ioria> hoijui,  i see ... no-wifi router then ?
[18:51] <hoijui> can i check the "ID" of my card, and then check if it is "in the drivers IDs list"?
[18:51] <charlesW> daftykins: Yeah, I used EXT4 to load my Ubuntu.
[18:51] <hoijui> ioria, nope, no wifi router
[18:52] <ioria> hoijui,  Intel Corporation 82567LM Gigabit Network Connection [8086:10f5]
[18:52] <ioria> hoijui,  also these seem to work http://downloadmirror.intel.com/15817/eng/
[18:52] <hoijui> .. this whole thing is the ID, or just the numbers in the end?
[18:53] <ioria> [8086:10f5
[18:53] <charlesW> thanks everyone
[18:53] <AEL-H> sorry, could someone explain what is going on in here? "for thefile in *.orig ; do cp -v $thefile ${thefile%%.orig} ; done"
[18:53] <hoijui> ioria, ahh thanks :-)
[18:54] <ioria> hoijui,  try sudo rmmod -f e1000e    and  sudo modprobe e1000e
[18:54] <hoijui> so earlier versions might now have worked? and as my ubuntu is older then that driver release i might get lucky with that new driver?
[18:56] <EriC^^> AEL-H: if a file is called something.orig the command will be cp -v something.orig something
[18:56] <ioria> hoijui,  it'a fresh install ?
[18:56] <EriC^^> it'll rename files with .orig in them to without .orig
[18:56] <TJ-> hoijui: the e1000e driver is the one for the 82567LM [8086:10f5]
[18:56] <hoijui> ioria, i tried... modprobe takes really long, like 20+s, but no change
[18:57] <hoijui> ioria, yes, fresh install
[18:57] <ioria> TJ-   can you hel him ?
[18:57] <ioria> *p
[18:57] <hoijui> TJ-, thanks.. but it shows as 0 usage in lsmod, and there is no eth0
[18:57] <ioria> TJ-   no eth0...
[18:58] <hoijui> fresh ubuntu 15.04 install
[18:58] <AEL-H> EriC^^: But I do not understand what the '%%' is doing
[18:58] <ioria> TJ-   and no wifi
[18:58] <EriC^^> AEL-H: it's telling bash to expand $thefile without the suffix .orig
[18:59] <ioria> hoijui,  there are eth0-usb adapter  ....
[18:59] <TJ-> hoijui: do "modinfo e1000e | grep '^alias:.*10F5'
[18:59] <hoijui> i just grepped the sources of the driver you linked me too, and it looks that even this version does not have my ID
[18:59] <TJ-> hoijui: You should see "alias:          pci:v00008086d000010F5sv*sd*bc*sc*i*" ... if not, the kernel version is too old to have support, and you'd need a more recent kernel from the HardWare Enablement packages
[19:00] <TJ-> !hwe | hoijui
[19:00] <AEL-H> EriC^^: Do you know what the %% process is called?
[19:00] <TJ-> hoijui: Grrr, that's the rong factoid!
[19:00] <TJ-> !enablement
[19:01] <TJ-> anyone know the factoid trigger for the HWE links?
[19:01] <hoijui> TJ-, it does show this line
[19:01] <EriC^^> AEL-H: parameter expansion, i think
[19:01] <hoijui> sorry, i am a bit slow becuase i have to manually copy commands
[19:02] <EriC^^> AEL-H: type man bash, then type /%% and press enter then press n
[19:02] <TJ-> AEL-H: in bash shell ${parameter%%string} removes all matches of string from the end of the parameter backwards
[19:03] <TJ-> AEL-H: it is the opposite of ${parameter##string} which matches forwards
[19:04] <hoijui> TJ-, if i had faulty hardware, could this cause this problem, or would the symptoms be different?
[19:04] <TJ-> hoijui: It's best to check the exact PCI Vendor:Product ID and driver, if any, using "lspci -nnk"
[19:05] <exe> Hey, question
[19:05] <TJ-> hoijui: Your 'hwinfo' says the device is 'unclaimed' that means it has no driver
[19:05] <exe> How do I add a new server on xchat?
[19:06] <ioria> hoijui,  http://www.pcidatabase.com/vendor_details.php?id=1302
[19:08] <hoijui> TJ-, ioria: 00:19.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82567LM Gigabit Network Connection [8086:10f5] (rev 03)
[19:08] <hoijui> 	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:20ee]
[19:08] <TJ-> hoijui: line 36 of your original pastebin shows it is the 8086:10f5 device, so if that alias is claimed by e1000e according to modinfo, then I'd suspect you have a PCI bus config problem, and I'd look at /var/log/dmesg for clues that the device's BARs weren't all assigned
[19:09] <TJ-> hoijui: if your 'modinfo e1000e' doesn't show an alias covering  1f05 then you need a newer kernel.
[19:10] <hoijui> TJ- .. ahh there are 3 PCI related warnings in dmesg
[19:11] <TJ-> hoijui: try "grep '00:19.0' /var/log/dmesg"
[19:11] <hoijui> as you describe, the PCI thing makes more sense
[19:12] <TJ-> hoijui: It may be the bridge window couldn't accomodate the device's BARs. Depending on the mobo/BIOS it may not be using CRS. It is worth trying to reboot it and adding to the kernel command-line "pci=usr_crs"
[19:12] <TJ-> hoijui: most modern systems already support and use CRS, but it is an obvious option. Another option you should try is "pci=realloc"
[19:13] <TJ-> hoijui: Try them both as "pci=usr_crs,realloc" which will tell the OS to re-allocate bridge windows if the down-stream devices need more room
[19:13] <TJ-> hoijui: Typo! "pci=use_crs,realloc"
[19:14] <hoijui> TJ-, thanks! how do i get to the boot menu (as i have no multiboot)
[19:15] <ioria> hoijui,  shift right after bios screen
[19:15] <jwash> hi everyone, i have a tv/monitor that isn't showing up in my xrandr. i think my edid is corrupt. is there a way to get it working again? I'm using nvidia bumblebee on this laptop. it works find in windows, probably because it saved my edid information in the past. unfortunately i don't have that computer anymore.
[19:15] <hoijui> ioria, TJ- : possibly interesting dmesg stuff: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8845916
[19:16] <hoijui> ioara, thanks.. will try that now
[19:16] <TJ-> hoijui: As soon as the system starts hold down Shift and wait until the GRUB boot menu is shown
[19:17] <TJ-> hoijui: That pastebin looks correct; the e1000e driver at that point was managing the device. Did you at some point do "modprobe -r e1000e" or "rmmod e1000e" before running "lshw" - because no driver was loaded when 'lshw' ran
[19:20] <indeedwatson> hello, my Lubuntu keeps freezing seemingly at random, how can i figure out what's wrong with it?
[19:20] <TJ-> hoijui: My other question is: "what makes you assume the interface will be named 'eth0' ?" Did you use "ip link show" or "ifconfig -a" to check all the Ethernet interface names. There might be a udevd rule renaming the interfance, or it may be using another naming scheme such as 'biosdevname'
[19:21] <daftykins> indeedwatson: does it appear to matter what you're doing at the time?
[19:21] <hoijui> TJ- when lshw ran, i had not yet used any remove module commands, no
[19:21] <indeedwatson> at first i thought it was firefox-related, but apparently not, it happens when idling even
[19:22] <hoijui> TJ-, now truing the kerlnel options, will check that one next
[19:22] <TJ-> hoijui: line 11 of that pastebin at 1.0xxx seconds into the boot shows e1000e dealing with the interrupts for that device.
[19:22] <daftykins> indeedwatson: have you tried a memtest? are you using a standard mechanical HDD?
[19:23] <indeedwatson> it's happening more frequently now, and when it does the mouse's light turns off, but the monitor stays on
[19:23] <hoijui> TJ- the kermel optiosn go in which line?
[19:23] <hoijui> same like root=UUID=....
[19:23] <indeedwatson> daftykins: yes, mechanical, and no, i never ran memtest, i'll google it
[19:23] <TJ-> hoijui: navigate to the line starting "linux ..." and add the options to the end of the line, space-separated from the other options
[19:24] <hoijui> ok
[19:24] <daftykins> indeedwatson: "sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit" and link the URL please
[19:24] <indeedwatson> this could be a hardware issue, i just want to figure it out without the need of formatting
[19:24] <TJ-> hoijui: Then press Ctrl+X or F10 to boot with those options
[19:25] <daftykins> indeedwatson: yeah, run the above and maybe it'll show
[19:26] <indeedwatson> im gonna log in from that pc brb
[19:28] <stacks88> dumb question im sure but, i just saw how there is a package called 'grive' on ubuntu 14.04 lts trusty, in the universe repository.. grive - Google Drive client for GNU/Linux.. How is it determined that a package is safe and not malicious? Does someone at ubuntu or debian verify the source code, build it and then thats how it ends up in the repository? I know im being irrational but im just
[19:28] <stacks88> trying to understand if someone is actually looking over the source code of these packages that we are freely able to install, or if its just assumed its safe, compiled and ported to .deb and thats it.
[19:28] <hoijui> WOAA
[19:29] <hoijui> TJ-, ioria, i have eth0 now! wiht the kernel options!
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> stacks88  this is the support channel, your question is more for #ubuntu-offtopic, i guess
[19:29] <hoijui> lets see if it works...
[19:29] <ioria> hoijui,  pci problem then ?
[19:30] <hoijui> yes, it works!
[19:30] <hoijui> ioria, yep!
[19:30] <hoijui> wow.. thanks guys!
[19:30] <OerHeks> stacks88, go check the source yourself https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grive
[19:30] <TJ-> hoijui: Great ... now add them permanently
[19:30] <hoijui> so i have ot make sure to add these things in my grubconfig then, right?
[19:30] <Pici> stacks88: I think your question is just fine for this channel.. anyway, You may want to see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories, and note that most of our packages are synched from Debian
[19:30] <TJ-> hoijui: You know how to do that, or want instructions?
[19:30] <hoijui> or how
[19:31] <hoijui> loose instructions woudl be good
[19:31] <ioria> hoijui,  sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[19:31] <hoijui> liek.. edit grub file and reinstall grub or soemthing?
[19:31] <TJ-> hoijui: Edit /etc/default/grub, put them in the variable GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX, then do "sudo update-grub"
[19:32] <stacks88> OerHeks but thats just it. I fully understand the source is available for me to view, but i just wonder if these packages are blindly being put together without reviewing the source, (as id imagine that would take too much time maybe to review all the source code for every package, or?)
[19:32] <ioria> TJ-  great TJ -
[19:32] <stacks88> Pici ok thanks
[19:32] <hoijui> thanks! :-)
[19:33] <hoijui> so... now can we do somethign that others wiht the same problem get benefits too?
[19:33] <ioria> hoijui,  did you use pci=use_crs,realloc or what ?
[19:33] <hoijui> my simple idea is, to open a question on superuser stackexchange?
[19:33] <hoijui> ioria, yes, those!
[19:34] <TJ-> hoijui: we have many bug reports along the same lines for various hardware; It's a firmware bug really
[19:34] <ioria> hoijui,  idk... maybe it's specific of your hardware
[19:34] <OerHeks> stacks88, not blindly AFAIK, why do you ask?
[19:34] <TJ-> hoijui: There are 2 separate issues. It'd be worth you testing each option separately to find out if only one of them is required.
[19:34] <hoijui> TJ- .. hmmmm... so is it documented somewhere already?
[19:35] <hoijui> ok, i will do that...
[19:35] <Kalimero> my ubuntu server restarts @ a certain time once a day. but sometimes it doesnt come up again. in which log do i have to look in to find out whats going wwrong
[19:35] <daftykins> Kalimero: is it a physical machine you run yourself at home?
[19:35] <TJ-> hoijui: use_crs tells the OS to use the ACPI CRS (Current Resources) method of the DSDT.
[19:36] <Kalimero> daftykins: yes it is
[19:36] <daftykins> Kalimero: do you run it headless?
[19:36] <hoijui> device tree?
[19:36] <hoijui> ok...
[19:36] <TJ-> hoijui: pci=realloc tells the OS to try alternative bridge windows for PCI devices if those devices won't fit in the current bridge window. Often the BIOS doesn't set the bridge window large enough.
[19:36] <Kalimero> daftykins: what do u mean by headless
[19:36] <hoijui> btw, i will get nearly the same hardware again tomorrow
[19:36] <hoijui> or .. soon
[19:37] <TJ-> hoijui: no, no device-tree on there. DSDT is Differentiated Services Description Table
[19:37] <daftykins> Kalimero: no attached screen
[19:37] <hoijui> so i will see if i get the smae problem there
[19:37] <hoijui> ahhh ok
[19:37] <TJ-> hoijui: I suspect "pci=use_crs" fixed it.
[19:37] <hoijui> thanks
[19:37] <inddwtsn> daftykins: can you send me the command again?
[19:37] <inddwtsn> for memtest
[19:38] <Kalimero> daftykins: yes no screen and no keyboard is attached atm
[19:38] <ioria> hoijui,  get a wireless router so you can use wifi if you want
[19:38] <hoijui> trying that now....
[19:38] <daftykins> inddwtsn: it's actually not memtest, but another idea - "sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit" and link the URL please
[19:38] <hoijui> ioria, yeah.. maybe!
, as you suspected.. pci=use_crs was enoug
[19:39] <hoijui> will now try again wihtout either option, jsut to make sure no weird thing happened inbetween...
[19:40] <inddwtsn> daftykins: paste.ubuntu.com/12330568/
[19:40] <hoijui> shii..
[19:41] <hoijui> now it works without eihter option!
[19:41] <ioria> hoijui,  kiddin ?
[19:41] <hoijui> nope
[19:41] <daftykins> inddwtsn: re-run the command with -s as mentioned
[19:41] <ioria> hoijui,  try to shutdown
[19:41] <ash_work> is there a way to compare an ls from dir1 to dir2 and output files present in dir2 but not present in dir1?
[19:41] <hoijui> i rebootet at least 3 tiems before i came here
[19:41] <daftykins> inddwtsn: so "sudo smartctl -s on -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[19:41] <ioria> hoijui,  not reboot try to shutdown
[19:42] <ash_work> maybe some find command voodoo
[19:42] <hoijui> ioria.. ahh ok.. trying..
[19:42] <daftykins> ash_work: why bother? just rsync the pair then you'll know :)
[19:42] <ioria> hoijui,  and paste sudo lshw -c Network
[19:42] <hoijui> hoijui, still.. works without any options
[19:42] <daftykins> ash_work: i think it even has a dry run option so you can see what it'll do before doing it
[19:42] <hoijui> ok..
[19:42] <inddwtsn> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12330588/
[19:44] <daftykins> inddwtsn: hmm ok doesn't look too bad, also "free -m | pastebinit" ?
[19:44] <inddwtsn> is it the hdd?
[19:45] <inddwtsn> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12330605/
[19:45] <daftykins> inddwtsn: hmm, foreignese :D nope that looks ok, so i'd hold left shift at startup, go to advanced and run memtest
[19:45] <daftykins> !memtest
[19:45] <daftykins> no factoid =|
[19:46] <Midoshi27> I'm having trouble using the 'Startup Disk Creator'. I'm trying to use an .iso of RHEL 6.5 but it's not loading into the .iso list after I select it. Has anybody run into this problem before?
[19:46] <mab_> hello
[19:46] <OerHeks> ash_work, diff -r <directory1> <directory2>
[19:46] <daftykins> Midoshi27: no point, just use dd to put the ISO on a flash drive
[19:46] <wileee> Midoshi27, It only reads ubuntu iso's
[19:47] <hoijui> ioria, TJ- now it just.. disconnected, and the lights on the interface went off
[19:47] <lisibowk> hello
[19:47] <inddwtsn> daftykins: memtest is already installed?
[19:47] <hoijui> ioria, lshw https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8845920
[19:47] <daftykins> inddwtsn: yeah, should be on the GRUB boot menu
[19:47] <lisibowk> I have problem to Install buntu 14
[19:47] <inddwtsn> ok brb
[19:47] <hoijui> so maybe hardware problem after all?
[19:47] <daftykins> lisibowk: what's that? on one line
[19:48] <Midoshi27> wileee: Oh I thought that might be the problem
[19:48] <Midoshi27> daftykins: tried that, usb fails to boot
[19:48] <ioria> hoijui,  ifconfig ?
[19:48] <daftykins> Midoshi27: how did you do it? if you wrote to sdb1 for example, that won't work - it must be the main device, sdx
[19:49] <lisibowk> the problem is in bios menu
[19:49] <daftykins> lisibowk: can you explain in full in one sentence maybe instead of bits and pieces?
[19:49] <lisibowk> yes
[19:49] <hoijui> ioria, ifconfig still shows eth0, but no ip anymore (bfore got one from my other PC, through DHCP)
[19:50] <hoijui> i set IPS manually now, but still there is no connection
[19:50] <hoijui> and no lgihts showing up on the interface
[19:50] <hoijui> lights*
[19:50] <ash_work> OerHeks: no, cuz that prints tha differences actually in the files
[19:50] <ash_work> I literally just want to know which files are present or not... similar output to a regular ls -a1 command
[19:51] <lisibowk> now i have linux mint 17.2 and want to try ubuntu I allready have usb with ubuntu_ but I dont kow how to start it from pc
[19:51] <ioria> hoijui,  go in Cnnecton Infromation
[19:51] <inddwtsn> shift didn't do anything, it just booted me straight back into the system
[19:51] <ioria> hoijui,  from the the upper paneò
[19:51] <daftykins> lisibowk: laptop/desktop? what brand?
[19:51] <ioria> *l
[19:52] <lisibowk> Laptop
[19:52] <lisibowk> hp 250
[19:52] <hoijui> ioria, and then?
[19:52] <hoijui> it shows the e1000e driver
[19:52] <ioria> hoijui,  check it
[19:52] <daftykins> lisibowk: ok, so something like F11 might give you a boot menu at power on
[19:53] <ioria> hoijui,  the ip , the gateway (default route)
[19:53] <hoijui> ioria, i am looking at it.. can not see anything special there
[19:53] <hoijui> yeah.. now they are on what i set manually
[19:53] <lisibowk> the problem is i boot menu
[19:54] <hoijui> and i cant ping, either way
[19:54] <ioria> hoijui,  DNS ?
[19:54] <hoijui> i cna ping my own IP though
[19:54] <newb123> How do I enable CONFIG_DEBUG_SPINLOCK in the kernel? Can I enable it per kernel module or just in the kernel itself?
[19:54] <lisibowk> I dont know how to configurate it
[19:54] <ioria> hoijui,  can you ping your router ?
[19:54] <hoijui> i have a crossover cable between the "sick" PC and the other one
[19:55] <daftykins> crossover cables haven't been necessary for a very long time.
[19:55] <hoijui> i did internet conenction sharing, and it worked
[19:55] <hoijui> but then it fialed, and now .. just does not get any packets through
[19:55] <hoijui> also wiht manual IPs set
[19:55] <ioria> hoijui,  so you cvan't ping your router ?
[19:56] <lisibowk> I mean that it does not start from usb
[19:56] <skinux> I just tried to install Ubuntu 14.04.3 from both USB and DVD, both ways when trying to boot the image it said no configuration file or UI found. What is that supposed to mean?
[19:56] <hoijui> ioria, there is no router involved
[19:56] <hoijui> but yes.. cant ping either PC from the other
[19:57] <daftykins> lisibowk: perhaps you did not prepare the drive properly
[19:57] <hoijui> i will try to reboot...
[19:57] <ioria> hoijui,  ok... well, add again the kernel parameter then ... and good luck mate
[19:57] <lisibowk> I used unetbootin
[19:57] <Moonlightning> So…what's up with the disparity between the initscripts and `service`?
[19:57] <hoijui> ioria, thanks :D
[19:57] <hoijui> and thansk a lto for your time..
[19:58] <lisibowk> mb I have to use another?
[19:58] <Moonlightning> `service` doesn't seem to be reading things from /etc/default (at least not for isc-dhcp-server)
[19:58] <skinux> Has anyone ever gotten the error no configuration file or UI found when trying to install Ubuntu?
[19:58] <hoijui> it works at least partially.. soemhow.. ;-) will meddle with this stuff, and come back if i foudn something stable
[19:58] <ioria> hoijui,  pleasure :-)
[19:58] <hoijui> :-)
[19:58] <daftykins> lisibowk: 'dd' in the terminal would do just fine. plug the flash drive in, identify it with "sudo parted -l" then run "sudo dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=2M"
[19:58] <lisibowk> which program you can recommend?
[19:59] <indeedwatson> daftykins: ok i'm running memtest, for how long and what do i do afterwards?
[19:59] <daftykins> indeedwatson: until the "Passes" variable changes to "2"
[19:59] <lisibowk> ok I will try
[20:00] <TJ-> hoijui: OK... if/when the interface dies, check "/var/log/kern.log"
[20:00] <skinux> ......why do I always get errors like this when I'm trying to do something
[20:00] <daftykins> indeedwatson: here's what a failure looks like - http://bestwinsoft.com/images/Memtest86_4.png
[20:01] <hoijui> TJ-, ok
[20:01] <indeedwatson> daftykins: ty, i'll go back and check in a bit
[20:01] <skinux> "no configuration file or UI found"...doesn't make any sense when trying to install from an ISO
[20:01] <lisibowk> can you set me link by link please I am stupid
[20:01] <TJ-> hoijui: you might want to look back in that log now, to the time when it disconnected earlier, and see what it shows.
[20:01] <skinux> I suppose I should mention that I think it gives me a "boot:" prompt
[20:02] <daftykins> skinux: sounds to me like your download was fudged.
[20:02] <skinux> Figures
[20:02] <TJ-> skinux: did you check the hash/checksum of the ISO, and of the image on the media?
[20:03] <hoijui> TJ-, now it fails to find my harddisc ...
[20:03] <hoijui> :D :D
[20:03] <hoijui> when booting
[20:03] <lisibowk> failed to open
[20:04] <daftykins> lisibowk: failed to open what? i gave you commands to run in the terminal application
[20:04] <skinux> Where do I find a checksum to compare it to? The download page doesn't have one.
[20:05] <bryan_> my browser game do not work, java is messed up, im using xubuntu
[20:05] <daftykins> !md5
[20:05] <hoijui> ah, now foudn it again..
[20:07] <TJ-> hoijui: sounds like the system needs a good clean and tidy
[20:07] <hoijui> TJ- ... ok :D
[20:07] <lisibowk> d: failed to open '/path/to/ubuntu.iso': No such file or directory
[20:08] <daftykins> lisibowk: yeah you need to actually put in the real path to the ISO file you downloaded.
[20:09] <lisibowk> using program or from web?
[20:09] <daftykins> it's on your disk, if you downloaded it
[20:09] <daftykins> so it might be in /home/username/Downloads/blah.iso
[20:09] <lisibowk> yes
[20:09] <daftykins> so you need to put that path into the command i gave
[20:10] <newb123> How can I get the source for the current kernel version? apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r) seems to retrieve the linux source which is not the same kernel version as $(uname -r)?
[20:10] <daftykins> make sure you change 'sdx' to be the real disk device too
[20:10] <peyam> hi
[20:10] <peyam> everytime I install something I need to run sudo apt-get update otherwise it wont install anything
[20:10] <peyam> even if the name is in repository
[20:10] <lisibowk> I did it using the program unetbootin
[20:10] <daftykins> lisibowk: i'm saying to do it this way...
[20:11] <bekks> peyam: Updating the packages lists using sudo apt-get update is stringly recommended.
[20:11] <compdoc> unetbootin is terrible
[20:11] <peyam> yes but i dont have to use it everytime. It doesnt find it anyway
[20:12] <bekks> peyam: update updates the package lists, install installs, and search searches for software.
[20:12] <peyam> bekks, after many years of using linux now people tell me what install does.
[20:12] <daftykins> peyam: so you're saying if you run "apt-cache search linux" you get nothing?
[20:13] <bekks> peyam: Your experience and vita isnt instantly visible using IRC.
[20:13] <hoijui> TJ-, will open and clean it.. thanks a lot! might be back one of these days
[20:13] <hoijui> now bed
[20:13] <peyam> What im saying is without using sudo apt-get update, I cant use sudo apt-get install
[20:13] <enfinitee> Hey everyone! I'm on Ubuntu 15.04, and whenever I try to screenshot something, my whole screen goes gray and I have to either close the screenshot dialogue (losing the screenshot), or log out and back in. Does anybody know how to fix this? (p.s. if you Google the issue, resetting Unity does not fix it)
[20:14] <daftykins> enfinitee: works in the guest session?
[20:15] <lisibowk> I did it
[20:15] <daftykins> \o/
[20:15] <enfinitee> I haven't tried in the guest sessoin, @daftkins...let me get back to you
[20:17] <skinux> Damn it. I just downloaded the ISO again, and the checksum is wrong
[20:17] <skinux> I guess i can't download it directly to a USB.
[20:17] <daftykins> torrent it
[20:17] <daftykins> that'll ensure it's correct
[20:17] <daftykins> maybe you've got memory or disk issues?
[20:17] <enfinitee> daftykins...screenshotting in the guest session produced the same problem, gray screen that I had to close out of
[20:17] <lisibowk> ISO is on USB
[20:18] <daftykins> lisibowk: go try booting it again
[20:18] <daftykins> enfinitee: ok, that shows it's not user config based then perhaps
[20:18] <lisibowk> from bios?
[20:18] <daftykins> lisibowk: well the boot menu
[20:19] <lisibowk> ok
[20:19] <lisibowk> hope I will do it
[20:21] <popobo> Hello! I have a new laptop that can't reproduce sound through the speakers, only the headphones work. Can someone help me? Searching the Internet hasn't work.
[20:21] <popobo> My sound card is: ALC269VC
[20:22] <skinux> Yup..torrenting didn't help any
[20:23] <daftykins> skinux: based on what?
[20:24] <skinux> Nevermind. It's correct
[20:24] <skinux> I was looking at the example not the actual MD5sum
[20:24] <daftykins> :D
[20:25] <Twirl> woot, i just ctrl + F12 and now everything is moving in slow-mo :o am i on drugs? this is amzing
[20:34] <leeohaddad> teste A
[20:34] <daftykins> test failed
[20:34] <daftykins> reason: wrong channel
[20:35] <kostas> hi everyone
[20:35] <OerHeks> hi kostas
[20:39] <leeohaddad> teste A
[20:40] <leeohaddad> PRIVMSG leeohaddad2 testeP
[20:40] <OerHeks> !test > leeohaddad
[20:41] <leeohaddad> ubottu, where do I see it?
[20:41] <monster> I am seeing an issue with apt-get, not sure whats going on
[20:41] <monster> I am getting "W: Failed to fetch http://apt.newrelic.com/debian/dists/newrelic/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages  403  Forbidden"
[20:41] <monster> even though I can curl  http://apt.newrelic.com/debian/dists/newrelic/non-free/binary-amd64/ just fine
[20:41] <OerHeks> monster, join #debian, this is ubuntu support only
[20:42] <monster> I am using Ubuntu
[20:42] <monster> newrelic repo supports both ubuntu and debian
[20:43] <daftykins> monster: sorry PPAs aren't supported.
[20:43] <monster> http://i.imgur.com/CDWgKEL.png
[20:43] <OerHeks> monster, oh oke, but that repo is not officially supported, maybe you need a key? see their manual
[20:43] <monster> I did add the key
[20:43] <daftykins> contact them
[20:43] <monster> mkay
[20:44] <OerHeks> It loks like commercial stuff, lolz
[20:50] <jwash> i have an hdmi monitor, it won't show in ubuntu. i think its because it cant get the EDID. I have the EDID number saved in a txt file. how do i manually use the edid number with the monitor? any ideas?
[20:50] <freezer__> jwash, i believe you can include it in xorg.conf
[20:51] <jwash> freezer__ ty
[20:51] <jwash> i'll research
[20:52] <OerHeks> jwash, these answers might help you, http://kodi.wiki/view/Creating_and_using_edid.bin_via_xorg.conf and http://askubuntu.com/a/81374
[20:55] <dieterd>  gtkdialog working - sources not possible to compile because gtk2+.pc broken because gtk-engines-2.ps is linking to gtk2+.pc which is not existing.
[20:55] <dieterd> gtkdialog is damaged paket.
[20:56] <dieterd> apt-get upgrade:  failure in gtkdialog. unknown elements dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile Error 2. No solution found in www. deb maintainer comes from multiboot. Seems more a dummy package. Looking for a work around.
[20:57] <cofo> How can I download entire website with css/html/images/style with curl?
[20:57] <cofo> Please
[20:57] <OerHeks> dieterd, gtkdialog is long gone removed, what are you doing ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtkdialog
[20:57] <cofo> Any idea?
[20:58] <prometheus> hello guys
[20:58] <cofo> hi man
[20:59] <prometheus> is it a chat for all the ubuntu flavours?
[20:59] <prometheus> i mean, like ubuntu GNOME, etc, or just for unity?
[20:59] <dieterd> OerHeks: something needs it. but because of that upgrade is failing and stops in the middle.
[20:59] <cofo> yes
[20:59] <daftykins> prometheus: just ask away
[21:00] <OerHeks> dieterd, something?
[21:01] <dieterd> yeah, one is is multiboot for creating usb-sticks with mutliple distros and persistent modes.
[21:02] <cofo> Anone know how to use httrack?
[21:02] <dieterd> another thing is that so apt-get runs not through upgrade so dist-upgrade in futur never works too.
[21:02] <OerHeks> dieterd, still not clear how this is related to ubuntu?
[21:03] <OerHeks> Maybe someone else in this channel knows
[21:05] <dieterd> gtkdialog was in the past in paketmanager ubuntu moved to sourceforge and to google as external apt-sources.
[21:06] <jwash> 0erHeks: so i did find * / | grep xorg.conf here is the result http://paste.ubuntu.com/12331085/
[21:06] <jwash> which xorg.conf am i using?
[21:06] <lisibowk> âùûó òùå öùêë
[21:06] <dieterd> It's 10.04
[21:06] <lisibowk> dose not work
[21:07] <k1l> dieterd: ubuntu 10.04 is end of life.
[21:07] <dela> ??
[21:09] <dieterd> I know its an old PC.
[21:09] <OerHeks> 10.04 is EOL.
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> dieterd  10.04 is no longer supported
[21:11] <dieterd> Do you have an idea how to run through upgrade?  An option to bypass gtkdialog. May there is later an replacement.
[21:11] <k1l> !eolupgrade | dieterd
[21:13] <OerHeks> jwash, standard there is no xorg.conf, but you can generate one, like this answer http://www.ubuntututorials.com/location-xorg-conf-ubuntu/
[21:15] <jwash> can you point me to an example of one with EDID info included?
[21:16] <OerHeks> jwash, i don't have such examples, are those url's not enough info?
[21:16] <OerHeks> especially the kodi one?
[21:17] <jwash> none of them has an exampel
[21:17] <jwash> /etc/X11/edid.bin"
[21:17] <jwash> is an option from kodi
[21:17] <jwash> but i can't find an example of the file structure of edid.bin
[21:17] <thell> Hello, I'm looking at the ppas for both ubuntu-toolchain-r and /test and am wondering why vivid isn't listed in ubuntu-toolchain-r and the entries for vivid in /test are older? I was looking to add the ppa to a build script to get the latest gcc binary ...
[21:17] <thell> I asked in ubuntu-toolchain, but that is a quiet place...
[21:18] <vlayn>   /msg NickServ IDENTIFY vlayn
[21:18] <vlayn>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY vlayn
[21:18] <OerHeks> vlayn, time to change password
[21:19] <vlayn> yes ..
[21:19] <OerHeks> jwash, nope, sorry
[21:19] <OerHeks> personally i never had this EDID trouble myself
[21:19] <OerHeks> vlayn, https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#changepass
[21:20] <jwash> i tried to use an edid cloner so that my monitor output would be displayed on 2 simultaneous outputs
[21:21] <dieterd> xorg.conf: http://www.drewanz.com/dieter/linux/XORG.TXT
[21:23] <dieterd> jwash: look xrandr
[21:25] <TJ-> jwash: instead of trying to use a manual EDID, you can set a Section "Monitor" in "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" which sets the monitor's correct HorizSync and VerticalRefresh ranges
[21:25] <TJ-> jwash: that info will be in the monitor/TV manual, usually in the technical specifications in an appendix
[21:26] <jwash> dieterd it isn't showing in xrandr
[21:26] <jwash> TJ- will it work even if it doesn't show in xrandr?
[21:26] <dieterd> jwash: https://www.maketecheasier.com/how-to-setup-dual-monitors-with-xrandr/     and no xconf.org is required for that
[21:27] <indeedwatson> daftykins: still here? memtest 3 passes and 0 errors, wat do?
[21:29] <TJ-> jwash: Here's an example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12331289/
[21:30] <TJ-> jwash: If the output doesn't show up in xrandr then you need to check the Xorg server log in case something else is wrong, too "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[21:30] <dieterd> Without xorg.config you can type this in termainal as xrandr options. if found right values, put all orders in a bash file. that you can start from terminal. terminal xrandr offers more options than GUI xrandr!
[21:31] <TJ-> jwash:  what does "xrandr -q" report?
[21:32] <jwash> TJ- HDMI1 not connected
[21:32] <jwash> it is turned on and connected
[21:33] <jwash> i think that it isn't being recognized because the EDID code got funked up
[21:37] <TJ-> jwash EDID is optional. I'd check the HDMI connections, and ensure the monitor has that connection enabled for viewing
[21:37] <daftykins> indeedwatson: hrmm, is it a laptop?
[21:38] <jwash> tj it is 100% certain
[21:38] <TJ-> jwash: if the monitor is a TV, sometimes it needs to be connected to the PC before powering on in order to be enabled
[21:40] <daftykins> jwash: there was someone in here not long ago who was sure their HDMI cable was ok, but suddenly decided to buy a new one and saw all their problems go away - worth bearing in mind
[21:40] <jwash> ive tried known good cable
[21:40] <indeedwatson> daftykins: no, pretty old desktop. I might just give up and install fedora or debian and see if the problem persists
[21:41] <daftykins> indeedwatson: ah, well the disk did speak of errors so i'd try leaving it disconnected and run just a live session perhaps - see if it falls over in the same way
[21:41] <daftykins> best idea i can come up with
[21:41] <indeedwatson> that's a good idea
[21:41] <yoerdiad> daftykins is a white nigger
[21:42] <indeedwatson> i was thinking it was either disk or psu
[21:42] <OerHeks> !ops | yoerdiad
[21:42] <yoerdiad> indeedwatson is a motherfucking bastard
[21:42] <indeedwatson> kek
[21:50] <september552> hi
[21:53] <mxr> hş
[21:53] <mxr> selam
[21:54] <reisio> mxr: later on
[21:55] <jonobu> can anyone assist with unattended installation?
[21:56] <jonobu> specifically looking for help debugging fallback to interactive installation, thanks!
[21:58] <reisio> never saw the point in unattended installation
[21:58] <daftykins> large networks i guess, my Uni used it
[21:58] <BotchlaB> Sometimes people can't keep an eye on the terminal.
[21:58] <tonyyarusso> reisio: Becomes obvious as the volume of your systems goes up.
[22:00] <jonobu> I assume my issue with the pressed config, but would appreciate some guidance on debugging
[22:00] <Promille> Hey guys. Ok I got some major problems here. I updated from 14.04 to 15.04, and there were screwups with 8 packages: grub, initscripts, upstart and friendly recovery. This means that apt-get wont run, its exites since it can't fix these problems. dpkg --configure -a didnt work, neither did apt-get install -f . Any suggestions? Here is transcript from apt-get when i tried to do apt-get update: http://pastie.org/private/aup68whp
[22:00] <daftykins> Promille: directly?
[22:01] <Promille> daftykins: directly, what?
[22:01] <daftykins> the upgrade...
[22:01] <daftykins> was it 14.04 -> 15.04 direct?
[22:01] <Promille> daftykins: thats right
[22:01] <daftykins> ok well that's unsupported
[22:01] <daftykins> so sounds like you nerf'd it
[22:01] <Promille> with do-release-upgrade daftykins.
[22:02] <daftykins> mmm no i don't think that allows anything other than via 14.10
[22:02] <daftykins> anywho your pastie ID doesn't work
[22:02] <Promille> daftykins: It can't be that fatal. I'm logged into my pc fine, xserver runs fine its just the package manager who doesn't work
[22:03] <Promille> http://pastie.org/private/aup68whp5kja7hpaqyai2a this didnt work?
[22:03] <daftykins> oh no your ID got chopped off due to the length of your earlier message
[22:03] <daftykins> only aup68whp came through
[22:03] <Promille> ah ok
[22:04] <Promille> Some of it is in norwegian though, but most of it is in english
[22:04] <reisio> norwegian? What's that
[22:04] <daftykins> i wonder if a boot of live session and chroot would be of any use to you?
[22:04] <Promille> It's a cold thingy up north
[22:05] <Promille> Yeah, maby I could try it
[22:07] <yoerdiad> Kim Davis.  Refusing to issue gay marriage licenses.  . . Liberals use the race card or what ever hate card they can to promote hate. In her situation, she pulled out the religion hate card. She was a democrat   . A typical liberal that misuses freedom to annoy others, but hates you when you are different than them. Typical intolerant liberal democract
[22:08] <nonickforme> What ever happened to that POS mir?
[22:11] <nonickforme> What ever happened to that POS mir?
[22:11] <daftykins> stop repeating
[22:11] <OerHeks> mir is not ready yet.
[22:11] <nonickforme> daftykins, provide an anaswer instead of saying stop repeating.
[22:11] <nonickforme> >_>
[22:12]  * OerHeks now ignoring nonickforme 
[22:12] <nonickforme> OerHeks, last video I saw of it, it was broken in many ways
[22:12] <daftykins> nonickforme: don't bring that attitude here, you don't act entitled to those you want information from.
[22:12] <nonickforme> daftykins, welcome to /ignore.
[22:12] <daftykins> my thoughts exactly (:
[22:12] <nonickforme> I came to ask a question and possibly get an answer instead of being told what to do and not getting any remotely insiteful information.
[22:13] <nonickforme> Wayland and Weston are now supported under Ubuntu right?
[22:15] <nonickforme> So Ubuntu is going to use Mir instead of Wayland?
[22:16] <compdoc> a nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse
[22:17] <daftykins> that's nice, compdoc
[22:17] <nonickforme> I'm trying to understand Wayland
[22:18] <nonickforme> So Wayland is the protocol, Weston is the compositor, and things like KDE / Gnome / LXDE / OpenBox conntect to Weston?
[22:19] <nonickforme> sorry compdoc wrong channel
[22:21] <k1l> nonickforme: no. kde, gnome etc are other westons
[22:24] <unixgirl> https://2ch.hk/b/src/101509782/14417533733020.webm
[22:27] <skinux> Is 13.04 missing many wireless drivers that 14.04 does have?
[22:28] <k1l> skinux: dont waste a thought about 13.04, its dead already
[22:28] <skinux> I just installed 13.04 over 14.04 because I couldn't 14.04 to install from any medium. Now, it says internet is disconnected when it should be connecting.
[22:28] <daftykins> you should be working on why you can't install 14.04, not doing this ass-backwards approach
[22:29] <skinux> I was going to upgrade from 13.04 to latest version.
[22:29] <k1l> skinux: old kernel, old drivers. no one is going to be motivated to fix a EOL release anyway.
[22:29] <skinux> Because using USB the system says "configuration file" is missing, and from disc it says it can't find anything to boot.
[22:30] <netlar> How do I find out if I am doing a uefi boot
[22:30] <daftykins> skinux: so pick a non .3 14.04 disc image :)
[22:30] <daftykins> netlar: the boot screen is white text on black background instead of purple with logo
[22:31] <skinux> Why should I be trying to install 14.04 instead of 14.04.3???
[22:31] <daftykins> because it's media with a different kernel and is a worthy variable to change
[22:31] <skinux> Well, the download available at ubuntu.com is 14.04.3
[22:31] <daftykins> btw you're rubbish at actually thanking those who help you in here, given how regular your queries are :P
[22:31] <netlar> daftykins: That is only way to tell?
[22:32] <netlar> daftykins: I am confused before I have a uefi mobo
[22:32] <daftykins> netlar: you can also pick the entry on the boot menu of EFI or legacy
[22:32] <skinux> I'll work on that.
[22:33] <daftykins> skinux: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/trusty/
[22:34] <test312> what is the German IRC ?
[22:35] <Bashing-om> !de | test312
[22:36] <test312> thx of lot ;)
[22:37] <test312> cya
[22:44] <skinux> Thanks for pointing me to using 14.04 specifically for install. I'm going to try it now.
[22:45] <nug700> ugh why is no effort put into linux ports
[22:46] <daftykins> 'ports' ?
[22:46] <nug700> porting from mac or windows to linux
[22:49] <tgm4883> nug700: porting what?
[22:49] <nug700> unity3D specifically
[22:50] <daftykins> i think this is one for -offtopic
[22:51] <nug700> I wasn't aware there's an offtopic channel :P
[22:52] <tgm4883> !OT
[22:54] <daftykins> nug700: how come you knew i meant a channel then?
[22:54] <daftykins> :D
[22:55] <hizz> Can anyone help me get bluetooth working on my ubuntu?
[22:55] <nug700> cause a lot of irc channels have an -offtopic
[23:00] <PercyB> Any op here atm?
[23:00] <daftykins> PercyB: why do you want an op?
[23:01] <PercyB> I have a channel related private question
[23:01] <daftykins> ask in their channel then, #ubuntu-ops
[23:01] <k1l> PercyB: the ops team is at #ubuntu-ops
[23:02] <PercyB> Ah, I see, thank you!
[23:08] <skinux> Well, tried 14.04 on USB (some kind of error) and using DVD the system acted like the disc was blank.
[23:09] <daftykins> heh
[23:09] <daftykins> well obviously everyone else works out fine, so i think your system is funky.
[23:09] <daftykins> or just everything you do is jinxed
[23:09] <skinux> Well..I don't know what to do. So, I guess I don't use Linux anymore.
[23:10] <daftykins> sounds like a plan
[23:10] <skinux> You're an ass...you know that.
[23:10] <daftykins> well you're not helping yourself, but sure feel free to lash out at the person that's been helping
[23:11] <skinux> I wasn't serious.
[23:11] <daftykins> i am. goodbye
[23:11] <skinux> Okay...now...I am serious. He -is- an ass
[23:12] <k1l> skinux: its enough with the insults.
[23:12] <tgm4883> ok now kids, lets play nice
[23:13] <skinux> Well, he says I'm not helping my self...I've tried both USB and DVD disc and neither worked. I know they both SHOULD work. But I'm out of ideas.
[23:13] <daftykins> yep not even trying, memtest time
[23:14] <skinux> Well..instead of saying I'm not trying, you could point out what I'm missing.
[23:15] <daftykins> i can't hold your hand through every attempt.
[23:15] <daftykins> you have to learn to think for yourself instead of coming in here every time :)
[23:16] <skinux> Okay..so should I be thinking of pizza or tomatos?
[23:16] <tgm4883> seriously off topic guys
[23:17] <reisio> skinux: not replacements for oen another
[23:17] <skinux> Huh??
[23:18] <daftykins> tgm4883: don't be ridiculous, it's a support channel.
[23:18] <reisio> for one*
[23:19] <tgm4883> daftykins: let's be real. Is any support actually happening?
[23:19] <reisio> let us be non-fake
[23:19] <skinux> Right at the moment he seems to be having more fun trying to make fun of me.
[23:19] <daftykins> nope i haven't seen you reply yet, just moan as usual :>
[23:19] <reisio> skinux: well, that's where the 'fun' in 'make fun' comes in
[23:20] <skinux> Hold up. An ISO all by itself on a USB stick isn't bootable..is it?
[23:20] <k1l> skinux: "my car doesnt work, i tried everything" how should one help there? we dont know details, errormessages or what you might have done wrong on making the boot-medium.
[23:20] <daftykins> hang on, this whole time you've been pasting the file and not actually dd'ing it on?
[23:21] <k1l> skinux: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[23:21] <skinux> Yeah, both times I just downloaded the ISO to the USB.
[23:21] <k1l> skinux: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[23:21] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[23:22] <reisio> skinux: it can be, depends on what you mean by 'on'
[23:22] <u0m3> anyone here has any experience with nvidia/opencl issues? Ubuntu 14.04 LTS if it matters
[23:22] <u0m3> I can't get it to see the OpenCL device.
[23:22] <daftykins> skinux: so your DVD was also just a data disc with the ISO written? oh dear.
[23:23] <daftykins> how did you install it the first time o0
[23:23] <skinux> I only got 13.04 to install and I don't remember how I burned that.
[23:24] <Guest65594> i have two servers running ubuntu vivid - one is still using upstart, one is not. i can't figure out what the difference is. can someone help?
[23:24] <daftykins> sudo dd if=/path/to/image.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=2M
[23:24] <daftykins> that's how y'do it
[23:24] <skinux> GParted ISO (which technically was embedded into Ubuntu) booted up fine with only being pasted to the USB stick.
[23:24] <daftykins> an ISO pasted would not work
[23:24] <skinux> daftykins: I'm having to use Windows to create the bootable media.
[23:24] <ninthDimension> Hello. I have windows 7 on a single large partition. How can I create a partition so that I can install Ubuntu? Can I use GParted for Win7?
[23:25] <daftykins> skinux: universal USB installer from pendrivelinux.com then
[23:25] <skinux> I'm already working on it.
[23:25] <ninthDimension> I read that I should not use Disk Management to create partitions for Ubuntu. What other utilities can I use - GParted in Win7?
[23:25] <reisio> ninthDimension: if you don't have any empty partition space, you can resize Windows' to make room, yes
[23:26] <reisio> ninthDimension: but it's not 100% safe, more like 90%
[23:26] <reisio> ninthDimension: backup important data and defrag beforehand
[23:26] <reisio> ninthDimension: or better yet just get another storage device, you'll need more storage eventually anyway
[23:26] <reisio> GNU/Linux installs to and boots from USB sticks and external drives fine, btw
[23:26] <k1l> ninthDimension: i suggest to use the windows tools to shrink the windows partition. then you can use the ubuntu installer to create the partitions in that free space
[23:26] <Bashing-om> Guest65594: A good place to start : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers .
[23:27]  * reisio wouldn't use a windows tool to query the time of day
[23:28] <ninthDimension> So I can use Disk Management to resize the Windows partition without formatting it or losing data - Does this entail making a new partition, or simply shrinking the Win7 partition and relegating the rest to "free space"? Afterwards, when I boot from my Ubuntu USB stick, will it contain utilities for me to turn "free space" into a working partition for Ubuntu?
[23:29] <reisio> ninthDimension: first you shrink, then you make new partition/s in unpartitioned space
[23:29] <daftykins> ninthDimension: shrinking yes, through diskmgmt.msc
[23:29] <k1l> ninthDimension: because of murphys law there is no such thing as "without data loss"
[23:29] <reisio> ninthDimension: then format/install/etc.
[23:29] <ninthDimension> k1l: oh sorry that's pretty much what you just said right? didn't read it properly. did I understand correctly?
[23:29] <reisio> yeah Murphy's law, or Windows
[23:29] <reisio> take your pick
[23:29] <ninthDimension> thanks guys
[23:29] <k1l> once you have a backup, you wont loose data :)
[23:29] <reisio> it's much simpler to just get another storage device / install to another storage device
[23:30] <reisio> it's a better use of time/money/effort
[23:30] <reisio> although, so is choosing a single OS over two at once
[23:30] <daftykins> now now, we only question the helpees when they're trying to do something insane
[23:31] <ninthDimension> does this qualify as insane?
[23:31] <daftykins> nah
[23:31] <reisio> ninthDimension: nah, just a little wasteful
[23:31] <reisio> but what's life without waste
[23:32] <ninthDimension> In an ideal world... yada yada yada. But I do need my windows as well as my Ubuntu :(
[23:32] <daftykins> i'd drop the ubuntu *cough*
[23:37] <nitin> nitin: hi
[23:37] <nitin> nitin: hi
[23:48] <Jordan_U> k1l: Why do you recommend using Windows' tools for resizing the Windows partition? In my opinion, doing that has a greater risk of user error than simply letting Ubuntu's installer do the resizing, while ntfsresize has possibly more real world testing than Windows' tools (installing linux is probably the primary reason a person resizes an ntfs volume) and a great track record.
[23:48] <daftykins> fundamentally disagree there :)
[23:50] <k1l> Jordan_U: first: if anything goes wrong its not ubuntus fault :) second: imho its better to let windows do the shrinking. its well tested and stable. and imho better than the reverse engeneered drivers from the linux world