[01:01] <mhall119> what's creepy about it?
[01:44] <valorie> I just tried to do updates after adding the ppa for kdeconnect, and get: 
[01:44] <valorie> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/vikoadi/ppa/ubuntu/dists/wily/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[01:44] <valorie> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/vikoadi/ppa/ubuntu/dists/wily/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[01:45] <valorie> I used sudo apt-add-repository ppa:vikoadi/ppa to add it
[01:51] <claydoh> valorie: that ppa has no wily packages
[01:52] <valorie> ah, got it
[01:53] <valorie> well, I have no vivid box left, I don't think
[01:53] <claydoh> 0.8 is the latest official relaese for desktop iirc
[01:53] <valorie> hmmm, maybe the old laptop?
[01:59]  * claydoh uses the new beta android app seems to be fime with the 0.8 on desktop
[02:22] <ahoneybun> mhall119: ?
[02:34] <mhall119> ahoneybun: clivejo said something about mycroft being creepy
[02:35] <ahoneybun> mhall119: he does not like ubuntu 
[02:36] <mhall119> this is an odd channel for him to be in then :)
[02:37] <ahoneybun> the flavors are different to him
[02:37] <ScottK> mhall119: Ubuntu has more than one definition and you know that.
[02:38] <ScottK> If you're goinng to be difficult, this might just be an odd channel for you to be in.
[02:39] <mhall119> ScottK: sorry, I thought he meant Ubuntu as a distro, not the Unity desktop version of it
[02:41] <ScottK> Thanks to Canonical that's known as "Ubuntu" so there's no correct way to refer to it specifically.
[02:41] <ahoneybun> the dislike may be more pointed at Canonical
[02:41] <ahoneybun> yea
[02:41] <ahoneybun> mm
[02:41] <mhall119> :/
[02:41] <mhall119> ok
[02:43] <ScottK> Mine's more for people who judge others as unable to follw the CoC and then blow it off themselves (Elfy's rage quit being a really fine example of the art).
[02:44] <mhall119> Well Elfy is no longer involed in the project, so there's nothing to be done about that now
[02:49] <ScottK> Yet he was previously judged to be fit to stand in judgment over all of us. 
[02:49] <ScottK> The damage left in his wake is still with us.
[02:51] <valorie> for sure
[02:52] <ScottK> I'm no longer convinced it's fatal however, so that's good.
[02:55] <mhall119> I'm glad for that, seeing a fully staffed Kubuntu Council makes me happy and hopeful
[02:57] <ahoneybun> We still have a userbase, we still have people who care to lead and to follow = a very hopeful future
[02:59] <ScottK> Xubuntu and Edubuntu survived for a while with zero people with upload rights, so it's possible to recover from a very low level.
[03:01] <ahoneybun> it only takes one to get a few more
[03:01] <ahoneybun> and take off
[03:01] <ScottK> Sort of it takes three since the quorum for kubuntu-dev to appoint someone new into kubuntu-dev is three.
[03:02] <ScottK> Shouldn't be hard to find people still willing to do that.
[03:02] <mhall119> very true, which is why I'm thankful for the three new KC members and the three remaining ones, for making that effort
[03:02] <ScottK> mhall119: kubuntu-dev, not KC.
[03:02] <ScottK> Separate issue.
[03:02] <valorie> I'm very stubborn
[03:02] <mhall119> ScottK: I was speaking of KC specificially
[03:02] <ScottK> KC has nothing to do with approving new developers.
[03:02] <ScottK> Right, I wasn't.
[03:03] <mhall119> yeah, I was just typing close, so you got a couple sentences in before me :)
[03:03] <mhall119> typing slow
[03:03] <ScottK> DMB could reseed kubuntu-dev as well if needed, but if there are people involved who are ready to be kubuntu-dev, we'll probably be able to find people to review/approve the applications.
[03:03] <mhall119> and poorly, it seems
[03:04] <ScottK> CC could also restaff the KC.
[03:04] <ScottK> Direct CC appointments would also make the lack of democracy in the project clearer.
[03:04] <mhall119> true, but that would be a break from past history, I'm glad it wasn't necessary
[03:05] <valorie> it wouldn't have been necessary
[03:05] <valorie> the KC isn't *necessary*
[03:05] <ScottK> valorie: Without it there would be no more Kubuntu members.
[03:05] <valorie> the other flavors don't have a council, do they?
[03:05] <mhall119> edubuntu does
[03:05] <valorie> right, I think it is important
[03:05] <mhall119> well, they did
[03:06] <mhall119> not sure if it's active anymore
[03:06] <ScottK> When there were more of them.
[03:06] <ScottK> They could make Edubuntu members too.
[03:06] <valorie> but I very much got the idea that the CC didn't care whether or not the KC existed, or survivied
[03:06] <valorie> survived
[03:06] <ahoneybun> ScottK: the Membership Board approves Ubuntu members then the admin of Kubuntu members could add those no>
[03:06] <ahoneybun> ?
[03:06] <mhall119> valorie: that would be incorrect, we always cared about the KC existing and being healthy
[03:07] <valorie> our constitution gives that power to the KC ahoneybun
[03:07] <ahoneybun> mm k
[03:07] <ahoneybun> mm = thinking
[03:07] <valorie> mhall119: that was nowhere evident in the recent past
[03:07] <ScottK> ahoneybun: Not properly.  People involved in Kubuntu could stlll get Ubuntu membership via one of the regular boards, but only the KC can make someone a Kubuntu member.
[03:07] <mhall119> valorie: I'm worry for that :(
[03:07] <ScottK> mhall119: You have a funny way of showing it.
[03:07] <valorie> mhall119: me too
[03:08] <ahoneybun> ScottK: it was not just mhall119 who made the call, so lets not just hit him up 
[03:08] <ScottK> ahoneybun: His personal responsibility is not less because he didn't act alone.
[03:09] <ahoneybun> true but was it not a voted decision?
[03:09] <valorie> I would feel quite different about it if the CC had come to the KC with their concerns
[03:09] <ScottK> ahoneybun: We don't know.  It was claimed to be unanimous and I know that's not true.
[03:09] <mhall119> valorie: yes, I think we've learned that lesson
[03:09] <ScottK> It was all decided in secret.
[03:10] <ahoneybun> that's the part that made it very odd to me
[03:10] <valorie> anyway, I hope in future it will be better
[03:10] <ScottK> I think I'm gong to leave since it's getting late here and roughly the last thing I need is to get riled up before bed time.
[03:11] <ahoneybun> mm
[03:12] <valorie> losing ScottK has been an enormous loss to us
[06:06] <soee> good morning :)
[06:06] <soee> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/amarok-2-9-enters-beta-after-two-years-of-development-amarok-3-0-prepares-for-qt5-491475.shtml
[06:07] <soee> nd next good news today :) yesterday i asked why there is no LO 5 in Wily and .. now it is :D
[06:14] <valorie> LO?
[06:14] <valorie> wonderful news about Amarok
[06:15] <soee> valorie: Libre Office
[06:15] <valorie> ah
[06:15] <soee> and some bad news for some maybe: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2425381/microsoft-is-downloading-windows-10-to-your-machine-just-in-case :D
[06:15] <valorie> yes, I talked with one Win user who shuts down his machine, just in case
[06:16] <soee> i need to remove my windows partition fro good 
[06:18] <valorie> I have one on my little travel computer, but I've never booted into it
[06:20] <bshah> whoa...
[06:21] <soee> next plus removing it = whole ssd for kubuntu
[06:21] <soee> good morning bshah
[06:21] <bshah> good morning soee 
[07:19] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:54] <sitter> Riddell: marble CI needs qtserial thing uploaded to CI ppas
[07:59] <sitter> Riddell: kdepim CI needs libkolab and libkolabxml for vivid uploaded
[08:29] <ovidiu-florin> for some whatever reason ^C does not work in Konsole anymore in Vivid on my system
[08:30] <ovidiu-florin> I've looked into the shortcuts, and nothing seems to override it
[08:30] <ovidiu-florin> any ideas?
[08:30] <ovidiu-florin> ^D still works
[08:52] <TJ-> ovidiu-florin: using the nvidia drivers?
[08:52] <ovidiu-florin> no
[08:52] <ovidiu-florin> Intel
[08:52] <ovidiu-florin> I think it's configuration related
[08:52] <ovidiu-florin> because it worked
[08:53] <ovidiu-florin> most likely I've done something
[08:53] <ovidiu-florin> What I've observer is that if I press ^C^C^C fast I get a new Konsole Tab
[08:55] <TJ-> ovidiu-florin: what does this report in Konsole "cat /proc/self/status | grep SigBlk" ?
[08:56] <ovidiu-florin> TJ-: zeros
[08:56] <ovidiu-florin> many zeros
[08:57] <TJ-> ovidiu-florin: OK, not blocked then
[09:00] <TJ-> ovidiu-florin: any recent package updates?
[09:03] <TJ-> ovidiu-florin: check the profile's key-bindings
[09:03] <TJ-> ovidiu-florin: does Ctrl+Shift+C generate the SIGINT instead?
[09:06] <ovidiu-florin> yes, it does
[09:06] <TJ-> That seems to confirm that there is a key binding remap. You should be able to see it in the Edit Current Profile > Keyboard bindings
[09:07] <ovidiu-florin> Default (XFree 4)
[09:07] <ovidiu-florin> that's what is set
[09:10] <TJ-> Yes, check the bindings list for that
[09:12] <ovidiu-florin> I can't find Ctrl in that list
[09:13] <TJ-> Hmmm, strange. Did this start happening recently? Can you associate it with any config changes, or package updates?
[09:15] <TJ-> Check in System Settings > Workspace > Shortcuts > Application Shortcuts
[09:22] <ovidiu-florin> I've checked that
[09:23] <ovidiu-florin> I've installed Yakuake some time ago, and all of the sudden it refusez to start at startup anymore
[09:23] <ovidiu-florin> about the same time yakuake went crazy, also did Konsole
[09:23] <TJ-> There are a lot of similar reports, often related to kde4 library updates
[09:23] <ovidiu-florin> BTW ^C works in the KonsolePart in Dolphin
[09:26] <TJ-> See https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=313862
[09:55] <soee> what ctrl + c should do ?
[10:24] <lordievader> soee: Send sigint.
[10:39] <soee> guys i need someone on Wily (Plasma 5.4.1)
[10:42] <Riddell> cyphermox: I'm still getting an error on upgrading from vivid to wily with modemmanager, are you aware of that?
[10:48] <Riddell> sitter: new ubiquity working good including for oem-config which is no more broken than before
[10:52] <soee> where are kubuntu bugs reported ?
[11:26] <Riddell> soee: depends on the bug, upstream to KDE if it's a KDE bug
[11:27] <Riddell> who wants to package the new amarok?
[11:27] <soee> Riddell: was false alaram with the bug :)
[11:41] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:57] <sgclark> hiyas
[12:00] <soee_> hiho sgclark
[12:07] <BluesKaj> hey sgclark , soee_
[12:09] <BluesKaj> wonder if there's any methos of adding kmix back to the system tray, I don't use pulseaudio so the new audio volume icon is useless for me
[12:09] <BluesKaj> in plasma 5.4
[12:09] <kfunk> BluesKaj: just start kmix?
[12:10] <BluesKaj> kfunk, afraid not
[12:10] <BluesKaj> got the kmix gui up and system tray option is checked, but nothing
[12:11] <soee_> do you have this user icon inside each section in Application Dashboard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y9PhSTLKWM ?
[12:12] <kfunk> BluesKaj: hm, indeed
[12:13] <kfunk> it surely used to work in 15.10 a few weeks ago
[12:13] <kfunk> I explicitely removed my kmix b/c it was showing a dock icon :D
[12:13] <yofel> sitter: https://xkcd.com/1172/ ^
[12:15] <BluesKaj> kfunk, pulseaudio icon audio volume has become the de facto default for the system tray ...another "feature" of the new plasma5 desktop
[12:15] <BluesKaj> i dont' use or need pulseaudio
[12:15] <kfunk> well, but it's 2015 after all. PA is a defactor standard as well
[12:15] <kfunk> de-facto*
[12:16] <soee_> mentioned it .. there are some updates today in wily for pulseauido :)
[12:17] <BluesKaj> iI have no need for an extra level of digital audio processing , alsa and the intel audio driver work well together, pulse just gets in the way
[12:18] <kfunk> BluesKaj: maybe in the past. PA usually integrates well nowadays
[12:18] <kfunk> maybe you should just give it a try...
[12:20] <BluesKaj> I have,  I had to use it with my m-audio soundcard which is now out of the mix since it required pulseaudio support from it;s driver... a totaly redundant situation
[12:20] <BluesKaj> putting it up on ebay 
[12:26] <BluesKaj> I'm afriad the audiophile in me still surfaces now and then when I see this kind of thing :-) 
[12:29] <BluesKaj> pulseaudio is for those who like to use several audio sources simultaneously ...for those users it's a necessity
[12:37] <mamarley> It is also really nice if you have an HDMI/DisplayPort audio device that you want to be able to use to play arbitrary streams without mucking around in application or ALSA configuration.
[12:39] <BluesKaj> mamarley, i use VLC audio settings for digital/hdmi or analog outputs to my audio system, it works well
[12:40] <mamarley> VLC has that, but not all applications do.
[12:40] <BluesKaj> yeah , that's one of the reasons I use VLC
[12:41]  * mamarley uses VLC too.
[12:41] <BluesKaj> VLC is a great medai app 
[12:42] <BluesKaj> media even 
[12:42] <mamarley> I switched to VLC when it gained native VDPAU support.  Before that, I had used smplayer/mplayer and before that xine.
[12:46] <BluesKaj> I'm a bit disappointed in the mplayer flavours , but mplayer itself is great with difficult videos that are a bit corrupted codec wise
[12:49]  * lordievader uses mpv as mplayer/mplayer2 are kind of abandoned
[12:49] <mamarley> I considered switching to mpv before I switched to VLC, but smplayer did not work with mpv at the time and I couldn't find a good frontend.
[12:50] <lordievader> I usually launch media players from the commandline anyways, so I have no real need for a frontend.
[12:51] <mamarley> I maintain computers for several other people who would not be comfortable doing that and I like to eat my own dogfood so I know what I am setting them up with.
[12:52] <BluesKaj> I don't mind using the gui for video , since there are so many options that command line strings can become too complex
[12:53] <mamarley> That too, I always forget which command-line args I need to enable VDPAU and such.
[12:55] <BluesKaj> yeah , well I need to make sure wife can handle the movie player so i try to keep the under the hood stuff already setup and saved so she can just use play , pause etc ctls
[12:58] <lordievader> Aliases are usefull for that.
[12:59] <BluesKaj> I use aliases mostly for the terminal with apt etc 
[13:00] <lordievader> For example I have an alias ls which maps to 'ls --color=force -l'.
[13:03] <BluesKaj> the colour here is already setup on the PCs hdmi input on the monitor/TV , so i don't muck about with it
[13:05] <lordievader> Err, --color=force forces ls to add colors to it's output. It has nothing to do with hdmi, etc.
[13:05] <lordievader> It adds ansi color codes to the output.
[13:07] <BluesKaj> which does what?
[13:08] <lordievader> For example it colors directories blue, adds a green background to 777 dirs and more. Try it I'd say.
[13:09] <cyphermox> Riddell: what error?
[13:10] <Riddell> cyphermox: https://paste.kde.org/pancnvkve
[13:10] <cyphermox> ah, ok
[13:15] <sitter> that's invokercd being shit though I think
[13:15] <sitter> it happens when it can't detect either systemd or upstart
[13:15] <sitter> then it just assumes the sysvinit file is going to be there
[13:15] <sitter> except obviously that assumption is false more often than not xD
[13:37] <sitter> yofel: are you on top of the intel SNA crashery?
[13:38] <yofel> sitter: I have a bug that's marked Critical against mesa, my plan was to poke around over the weekend - but I see you were faster
[13:38] <yofel> let me look up the bug #
[13:39] <yofel> lp 1492037
[13:39] <sitter> not that I am getting much response XD
[13:39] <yofel> as usual..
[13:39] <sitter> rather content to go for patchy upload if no one wants to talk to me :P
[16:31] <Riddell> packagekit-qt updated, hoorah
[16:38] <soee> ximion: cool stuff tis Limba :)
[16:43] <ximion> soee: yes :) progressing much faster than I originally expected :D
[16:44] <soee> ximion: do you have any feedback from distros and devs?
[16:45] <ximion> soee: not yet, except for a whishlist of things developers would like to have working
[16:45] <ximion> e.g. shipping something like Akonadi doesn't currently work with Limba, due to a conflict with the distributor's own packaging - I am still working on a solution there
[16:46] <soee> "conflict with the distributor's own packaging" ?
[16:47] <ximion> also, I got lots of feedback at Debconf and Akademy, but my goal is to get people to create a Limba package - since it's very easy to do for me, but others might run into obstacles I haven't thought about before
[16:47] <ximion> soee: yes, in case there is a DBus activated daemon involved
[16:47] <ximion> how should the system know whether to start the Limba daemon or the one the distributor provides?
[16:47] <soee> during build ?
[16:48] <ximion> no, at install-time
[16:49] <soee> i'm not imilar with this stuff, but shouldn'tpackage inform about it all 
[16:49] <soee> and system should recognise package type ?
[16:50] <ximion> D-Bus doesn't provide logic to select the right service to start at time, so the short-term solution to this issue will likely be adding support for Limba in the application itself, while the long-term solution is adapting D-Bus
[16:50] <ximion> soee: the Limba bundle isn't the problem here, Limba bundles install conflict-free and happily alongside distributor-provided apps
[16:51] <ximion> only some special features like d-bus daemons can currently cause trouble
[16:52] <soee> i think i have some general view now on this :)
[16:53] <clivejo> has kolab support been fixed in Kontact/PIM?
[16:54] <soee> Riddell: ^
[16:55] <ximion> soee: there are only a few essential infrastructure tasks left for Limba - I plan to develop the remaining features by packaging more software and see which use-cases need to be addressed
[16:55] <clivejo> I noticed a few libkolab packages being updated/installed
[16:56] <soee> ximion: but still it cn be tested best if used ny devs right ? :)
[16:56] <ximion> soee: would be cool to have LimbaHub ready soon, but I'm not really a good web developer, so that might take a while ^^
[16:56] <ximion> yes, of course
[16:57] <soee> ximion: i'm a web developer :D
[16:57] <ximion> the bundle format is also stable and won't change anymore, unless there is a *really* good reason - so whatever you create now will work with future Limba versions
[17:01] <ximion> soee: if you want to help.... ;-)
[17:01]  * ximion is one of those weird people who enjoys working with C more than working on HTML/Python
[17:02] <soee> well i do not know python :) i work in php, javascript, do forntend with css etc.
[17:03] <ximion> Python is easy :-)
[17:04] <ximion> after you get used to hitting space a lot, it's really fun to work with it :)
[17:05] <soee> :D
[17:14] <ximion> soee: I just got an email from someone running 4 different Python versions with Limba :P
[17:14] <soee> ;o
[17:14] <ximion> (apparently for testing code against them ^^ - but nice CPython is working ^^)
[17:14] <soee> but installed with limba ?
[17:15] <ximion> yes
[17:40] <clivejo> Riddell: did you fix the kolab support in Kontact/PIM?
[17:58] <Riddell> clivejo: I think so, I added back libkolab to kdepim-runtime and added the extra files to the .deb packages, but it's entirely untested
[17:58] <clivejo> Ill reboot in a few minutes and try it
[18:10] <clivejo> Kontact has lost my Feeds again!
[18:14] <clivejo> Riddell: well there is now a Kolab option
[18:14] <Riddell> cyphermox: that sounds good :)
[18:14] <yofel> wheee.. plasma-nm has lost some passwords again
[18:14] <Riddell> sorry clivejo that sounds good :)
[18:15] <clivejo> lets see if it sync's and connect into the right components
[18:17] <clivejo> Riddell: what tests are there to see if its working?
[18:26] <clivejo> :) well my notes, contacts, events etc have all sync'ed and just waiting on email :)
[18:29] <clivejo> should it not hide the notes and files IMAP folders?
[18:29] <soee> yofel: i would say it is some bug
[18:30] <soee> as other users also reported similar problem
[18:33] <clivejo> Riddell: is there anyone building the new KDE Connect code coming from Randa?
[18:56] <soee> clivejo: btw. after reboot etc. media control works fine in new kdeconnect
[18:57] <clivejo> yeah, but apparently there is new desktop software needed too
[18:57] <clivejo> both the phone app and desktop should be running the same version
[18:58] <ovidiu-florin> we have a package in Kubuntu that overrides the default KDE settings, what's its name, agai?
[18:59] <ovidiu-florin> kubuntu-settings-desktop
[18:59] <ovidiu-florin> found it
[19:02]  * ahoneybun reminds Riddell we still need to test and push his kubuntu-settings package for wily
[19:19] <clivejo> yippeee a Find my phone plugin for KDE Connect :)
[19:24] <clivejo> Im having problems with a java application called JOSM.  When I select the GTK+ look and feel the application wont start, could this be plasma related?
[19:28] <ahoneybun> so the bot is in here
[19:34] <ahoneybun> kubuntubot: testing
[19:34] <kubuntubot> Error: No chat_id set! Add me to a Telegram group and say hi so I can find your chat_id!
[19:49] <ahoneybun> kubuntubot: hi
[19:49] <kubuntubot> Error: No chat_id set! Add me to a Telegram group and say hi so I can find your chat_id!
[19:50] <genii> Hm
[19:50] <kubuntubot> Error: No chat_id set! Add me to a Telegram group and say hi so I can find your chat_id!
[19:50] <mamarley> Is it really responding to everything that is said?  That isn't good...
[19:50] <kubuntubot> Error: No chat_id set! Add me to a Telegram group and say hi so I can find your chat_id!
[19:51] <ahoneybun> yea it is
[19:51] <kubuntubot> Error: No chat_id set! Add me to a Telegram group and say hi so I can find your chat_id!
[19:52] <ahoneybun> testing
[19:52] <kubuntubot> Error: No chat_id set! Add me to a Telegram group and say hi so I can find your chat_id!
[19:52] <ovidiu-florin> foo
[19:52] <kubuntubot> Error: No chat_id set! Add me to a Telegram group and say hi so I can find your chat_id!
[19:57] <ahoneybun> kubuntubot: hello
[19:57] <ovidiu-florin> foo
[19:57] <ovidiu-florin> bar
[19:59] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: https://github.com/FruitieX/teleirc
[20:08] <ahoneybun> kubuntubot: hi
[20:13] <ahoneybun> kubuntubot: hi
[20:13] <kubuntubot> Error: No chat_id set! Add me to a Telegram group and say hi so I can find your chat_id!
[20:15] <ahoneybun> kubuntubot: hi
[20:17] <ahoneybun> kubuntubot: hi
[20:17] <ovidiu-florin> kubuntubot: ;rsmvien
[20:22] <clivejo> is konsole still crashing on exit for people running wily?
 Fail
 yuguuu
[20:23] <ovidiu-florin> kubuntubot: it works
 testing
[20:23] <ovidiu-florin> yeeey
[20:23] <ovidiu-florin> I fixed it :D:D:D
[20:24] <ahoneybun> you really did
[20:24] <ahoneybun> kubuntubot: ovidiu-florin hello
[20:25] <ovidiu-florin> test
[20:25] <ovidiu-florin> test
 et
[20:27] <ovidiu-florin> kubuntubot: yoo
[20:27] <ahoneybun> hello
[20:27] <ahoneybun> !hello
[20:27] <ahoneybun> right
[20:27] <ahoneybun> !telegram
[20:28] <ahoneybun> hey claus_chr
[20:28] <ahoneybun> hey clivejo
[20:28] <ahoneybun> opps
[20:28] <clivejo> hi ahoneybun
 hello clivejo
[20:28] <ahoneybun> XD
[20:28] <clivejo> you are a noisey kubuntubot
[20:29] <ahoneybun> lol
[20:29] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin:  and I have been testing it
[20:29] <ahoneybun> mostly ovidiu-florin has been fixing it though lol
 I drink beer
[20:31] <clivejo> I drink whiskey :)
 hello claydoh
 hello ovidiu-florin
 ping clivejo
 did you get pinged?
[20:33] <clivejo> kubuntubot: ovidiu-florin: pong
[20:33] <ahoneybun> it does not work both ways atm
[20:33] <clivejo> ahoneybun: well fix it :P
[20:34] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin is working very hard on it and I'm providing emotional support :)
 He he lol
 valorie: ping
 hello rick
 Hi
 foo
 Probably on IRC on my PC
[20:36] <soee> i would rather put this bot on separate irc channel like #kubuntu-telegram or smth.
 This is Telegram on my Android
[20:37] <ahoneybun> mm
[20:38] <ahoneybun> we'll see soee
[20:38] <ahoneybun> kubuntubot: we'll see martin
[20:38] <soee> btw. how can i get telegram channe invite /
 @sgclark2 do you have soee on your phone?
[20:39] <soee> ekhm: http://i.imgur.com/4TfZ7Xk.png
 so you can invite him?
[20:40] <soee> the old icons were much much better
[20:40] <valorie> weeee, telegrambot!
[20:40]  * ahoneybun uses fullscreen launcher
[20:40] <ahoneybun> its a WIP valorie
 Nope sorry
 @ovidiu_florin is taking care of it
 thanks
[20:40] <soee> ahoneybun: so do i but this is from master verion probably so if you are not on it you see no changes
[20:41] <ahoneybun> mm
[20:41] <ahoneybun> I can't see my power options as they are in dark lol
[20:41] <soee> and probably thois icons in Application Dashboard will get replaed to :~D
[20:41] <ovidiu-florin> soee: are you on telegram?
[20:41] <ahoneybun> mm
 Hello :)
 hey marcin
 I propose having the same nicks on bot IRC and Telegram
 both*
[20:43] <yofel> maybe a bit late to ask, but... what the hell is telegram?
[20:44] <valorie> wow, I lost touch with telegram since I turned off notifications on my phone
[20:44] <valorie> y'all were chatty when I was trying to sleep
[20:44] <ahoneybun> yofel: a IM thing
[20:45] <valorie> yofel, free software IM like whatsapp
[20:45] <valorie> it was the killer app for Akademy
[20:45] <valorie> and some of us are still using it
[20:45] <valorie> since it works with wifi only
[20:45] <yofel> telegram.org?
[20:46] <clivejo> children and their toys *shakes head* 
[20:46] <valorie> yes
 efv
[20:48] <ovidiu-florin> kubuntubot: sdvnjs
[20:48] <ahoneybun> kubuntubot: hello
[20:48] <valorie> clivejo: it was useful
[20:48] <valorie> I think it can help us to reach out to more people
[20:48] <valorie> not everyone knows what IRC is or how to get on
[20:48] <valorie> and on a phone, telegram is *much* better than any irc client I've seen
[20:50] <clivejo> valorie: I cant figure out how to use it!
[20:51] <yofel> hm.. I only have harald in my contacts...
[20:51] <ahoneybun> yofel: web.telegram.org for web desktop
[20:51] <valorie> clivejo: you use your phone number as your ID to it
[20:51] <yofel> yeah, I'm on that
[20:51] <valorie> and create a username if you want
[20:51] <valorie> http://telegram.org/Valoriez is mine I think
[20:52] <ahoneybun> the phone number carries your messages 
[20:52] <ahoneybun> from different phones
[20:52] <valorie> people with usernames can be contacts even if you don't have their phone number
[20:52] <valorie> however, I'm willing for anybody here to have my phone number by PM
[20:55] <yofel> how does the bot work?
[20:56] <ahoneybun> yofel: https://github.com/FruitieX/teleirc
[20:57] <ahoneybun> hey mparillo
[20:57] <mparillo> hey
 test2
[21:07] <ovidiu-florin> kubuntubot: 3123
[21:10] <ovidiu-florin> kubuntubot: ash
 ovidiu-florin, I already had Valoriez as a username here, sorry
[21:12] <ovidiu-florin> kubuntubot: tete
 @ovidiu_florin https://paste.kde.org/pzc33t2s8
[21:16] <valorie> one thing I love about telegram, is that it is an easy way to move information from the computer to the phone or vice-versa
[21:19] <soee> it is great tool to use when we break our system and we need to cotact this ol #kubuntu channel for help :)
[21:20] <valorie> that too, hadn't thought of that
[21:21] <valorie> I have used irc on my phone to do that, but it's really clumsy
[21:21] <ahoneybun> soee helped me with my laptop when I had to unplug the cable from my desktop
[21:22] <ahoneybun> and IRC on the phone is old
[21:22] <ahoneybun> *odd
[21:24] <clivejo> why does Kontact keep deleting my feeds?
 @athoneycutt https://github.com/FruitieX/teleirc/issues/10
 testing
[21:25] <ahoneybun> kubuntubot: testing
[21:26] <ahoneybun> so the bot is half working
[21:26] <ahoneybun> thanks to ovidiu-florin
[21:26] <clivejo> cant he fix the other half?
[21:29] <soee> nice package name libkf5activitiesexperimentalstats1 :-)
[21:33] <valorie> lol
[21:34] <clivejo> Id shorten it to libkf5aes1
[21:35] <murthy> bshah: hi
[21:37] <Riddell> clivejo: fancy packaging the new amarok beta?
[21:37] <Riddell> clivejo: what's new in kde connect?
[21:37] <clivejo> Riddell: lots of new stuffs :)
[21:37] <Riddell> clivejo: great, do package it up :)
[21:38] <clivejo> cant figure out how to get a snapshot
[21:38] <murthy> sitter: are you working on ubiquity or ubiquity-kde?
 hello Riddell from telegram
[21:39] <Riddell> uh, hello kubuntubot
[21:39] <ahoneybun> he worked hard on it clivejo
[21:39] <Riddell> clivejo: git clone
[21:39] <clivejo> what branch, there is a lot of working going on
[21:41] <murthy> Riddell: the new kubuntu installer that people are talking about, is it present in the daily build image?
[21:41] <Riddell> murthy: yes it's on today's build
[21:41] <murthy> ok
[21:41] <murthy> 10 sep?
[21:42] <Riddell> yes
[21:42] <clivejo> hummm where did the code go
[21:42] <murthy> oh
[21:42] <clivejo> https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/base/kdeconnect-kde/repository
[21:42] <clivejo> it was there yesterday :/
[21:42] <Riddell> one of our repositories is missing!
[21:43] <Riddell> https://projects.kde.org/projects/kdereview/kdeconnect-kde
[21:43] <Riddell> it's moving into the real world
[21:43] <soee> can someone confirm that in fonts kcm, font preview is completely broken ?
[21:43] <clivejo> no wonder git was freaking out yesterday
[21:44] <murthy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1087409
[21:44] <clivejo> now is that site slow to load, or is it my pathetic excuse of an internet connection?
[21:44] <murthy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1389847
[21:46] <soee> there shoudl be some infor message that drivers are dwnloading or some indicator would be better
[21:46] <murthy> This bug is going to make a lot of slow internet users think the kubuntu installer crashes because its going to wait for minutes before proceeding to the partitioning window when install 3rd party software option is selected
[21:47] <murthy> *crashed
[21:47] <clivejo> Riddell: so master is always stable?
[21:48] <Riddell> clivejo: git master branch is typically unstable
[21:48] <clivejo> so just try it and see?
[21:48] <murthy> nvidia's driver download size is around 100mb+ and with 2 mbps connection you can calculate the download speed and wait time
[21:49] <Riddell> clivejo: I think it's the frameworks branch we want to kdeconnect, d_ed would know
[21:49] <soee> murthy: can't we imeplemt something liek progress bar there ?
[21:50] <murthy> soee: ya, better thing to do is to remove nvidia from download process
[21:51] <soee> murthy: are the installed anyway after download ?
[21:51] <murthy> soee: Its better to avoid the installation of the nvidia driver till the first boot
[21:55] <d_ed> clivejo: Riddell: we want "stable" but we also have a release coming in ~2 weeks
[21:56] <d_ed> translators have been emailed, so it's in that final stage
[21:56] <Riddell> ooh release is good
[21:57] <d_ed> and that's kf5 based
[21:57] <clivejo> d_ed: I just want to trying packaging up the latest work/features.  If I grab the latest code, it should complie?
[21:58] <d_ed> you  probably want to package the branch called "stable"
[21:59] <d_ed> (and yeah, it's a weird naem, rather than v5.4 like everyone else)
[21:59] <Riddell> clivejo: so go for stable snapshot for now and we'll be ready to get the release in a couple weeks when it's out
[21:59] <clivejo> I want to try grab the latest features, that Find my phone feature looks good !
[22:01] <valorie> oooo
[22:01] <valorie> yes, please
[22:05] <clivejo> frameworks doesnt seem to have been modified for about 6 months
[22:07] <valorie> ?
[22:07] <valorie> they release monthly
[22:28] <clivejo> who release monthly?
[22:43] <valorie> frameworks
[22:43] <valorie> ok, back outside for awhile
 /time
[22:44] <ahoneybun> mmm does not shot those out
[22:49] <ahoneybun> I'll keep the bot up as long as I can, till ovidiu-florin enables it from boot on my server
 How it's supposed to work?
 I believe, a relay bot
 it's working right now lol