[08:16] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:23] <vip> hi ho
[08:23] <vip> anybody on wily with akonadi imap resources crashes?
[08:24] <vip> it happens quite often, sometimes (i don't know if it is related) causes whole kde session to crash
[10:49] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:30] <ovidiu-florin> hello people
[11:30] <ovidiu-florin> do we still need the 14.10 board on trello?
[11:31] <lordievader> Utopic is EOL, right?
[11:42] <yofel> it is
[12:32] <clivejo> grrr Kontact is really misbehaving recently
[14:05] <soee> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mesa-11.0-Released
[14:22] <BluesKaj> soee, no support for nvidia proprietaries  :/
[14:22] <BluesKaj> just nouveau
[14:24] <mamarley> But the blob already supports OpenGL 4.5, doesn't it?
[17:27] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: I'm moving docs.kubuntu.org server which has a bunch of your stuff on it like ro.kubuntu and others, can you tell me what you still need?
[17:27] <ovidiu-florin> sure, one moment
[17:44] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I've cleaned up my dir
[17:44] <ovidiu-florin> I have there just 3 dirs that I need as they are
[17:44] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: you'll create new users, from scratch, right?
[17:45] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: right, and I'm rsyncing over the home dirs now so you're just in time :)
[17:45] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: what's that wordpress setup?
[17:45] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I have to give you my ssh key, I removed my .ssh/ by mistake
[17:45] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: that's the development site 
[17:46] <ovidiu-florin> we use that for testing
[17:46] <ovidiu-florin> before we go live
[17:46] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: and it uses a mysql database?
[17:46] <ovidiu-florin> yes
[17:46] <ovidiu-florin> I can recreate that on the new machine
[17:47] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: do you know why we have postgres on that server?
[17:47] <ovidiu-florin> no
[17:49] <Riddell> I'll ignore it then and hope it goes away :)
[17:50] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: I don't suppose you know what the mysql root password is?
[17:50] <ovidiu-florin> I do 
[17:50] <ovidiu-florin> is that good?
[17:51] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: ^
[17:51] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: lovely thanks
[17:51] <ovidiu-florin> YW
[18:26] <Riddell> ah postgres turns out to be for the build status stuff
 Which are the commands? I try help and start
 @alxlg there are no commands.
 It just relays telegram to IRC
 Which is the syntax to send to IRC?
 all messages are sent to IRC
 I see the bot is off right now
 /time
[18:27] <Riddell> hmm, I'm not convinced this relay is a good thing
 I love you Riddell
[18:28] <ahoneybun> XD
[18:28] <clivejo> LOL
[18:28] <Riddell> thanks kubuntubot
 kubuntubot loves you
[18:28] <clivejo> Riddell: are you on telegram?
[18:29] <Riddell> sometimes, I mostly have it set to mute
[18:29] <ahoneybun> no wonder I can never reach you lol
 /time
[18:30] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: what kernel version do we have on the new docs server?
[18:30] <ahoneybun> docsnew.kubuntu.org
[18:30] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: it's vivid, login now on weegie.edinburghlinux.co.uk
[18:30] <ovidiu-florin> whaaaaat?
[18:31] <ovidiu-florin> para pa pa pam
[18:31] <pursuivant> muon (master) v5.4.0-37-ged50aec * Gilbert Assaf: muon/DetailsTabs/TechnicalDetailsTab.cpp
[18:31] <pursuivant> Information in the technical details tab can be selected by mouse
[18:31] <pursuivant> BUG: 272913
[18:31] <pursuivant> REVIEW: 125046
[18:31] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/ed50aecdcedf62f7d5cb156f52d1fa0a90564984
[18:34] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: can we have docker on it?
[18:34] <ovidiu-florin> and run the relay in a docker container?
[18:34] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: um, probably, I don't know much about docker yet alas
[18:34] <Riddell> what relay?
[18:34] <ovidiu-florin> telegram relay
[18:34] <Riddell> oh I see, probably, feel free to try
[18:34] <Riddell> it's an arm server from scaleway
[18:34] <ovidiu-florin> I can set it up, if I get permissions again
[18:35] <Riddell> you should have a login and sudo
[18:35] <Riddell> it's a server from scaleway who recently reduced their prices to 3euro a month, compared to the 14euro we pay for hosteurope
[18:35] <Riddell> it's an arm quad core
[18:35] <ovidiu-florin> so it's a VPS?
[18:36] <ovidiu-florin> arm as in ARM? as in not Intel?
[18:36] <ahoneybun> ARM would be it
[18:36] <ahoneybun> intel is 64 and such :P
[18:38] <Riddell> yes
[18:39] <TJ-> ovidiu-florin: no, it isn't VPS it is bare metal dedicated server
[18:39] <soee_> someone packaging amarok ?
[18:40] <pursuivant> libqapt (master) 2.2.0-105-gaff35aa * Harald Sitter: src (2 files)
[18:40] <pursuivant> apt1.1 compatibility fixes by Julian Andres Klode <jak@debian.org>
[18:40] <pursuivant> slightly modified to not cause quite so long lines
[18:40] <pursuivant> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=798705
[18:40] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/libqapt/aff35aac9d3a62c530e0111597153ba64f3fb5c0
[18:50] <Riddell> soee_: not that I know of
[19:26] <sitter> Riddell: I uploaded new whoopsie for translations 
[19:26] <sitter> also I think for native packages we need our own version of tarme :P
[19:26] <sitter> bit fiddly to get the po/ in
[19:27] <sitter> also I'll upload our other things next week or so to get new translations in
[20:58] <soee_> uh, what a package name: libpagemaker-0.0-0 (0.0.2-2ubuntu3) ... :) 
[20:59] <soee_> any idea why Libre Office uses some gradients as backgrounds and not single color ?
[21:00] <soee_> or is it distro/DE related ?
[21:07] <soee_> any idea why Users Management is moved to Account Details section ?
[21:15] <clivejo> where is the amarok packaging for kubuntu kept?
[21:22] <clivejo> *rings the bell* service
[21:22] <yofel> the VCS field in the control flie will tell you
[21:23] <clivejo> why are they all over the place?
[21:24] <yofel> because they were all in the same place, then we moved to debian for kf5 and plasma, but never moved the rest
[21:25] <clivejo> all the other KDE stuff is on alioth?
[21:26] <clivejo> so whats the plan?
[21:27] <clivejo> move it to alioth, or bzr?
[21:27] <yofel> I don't think we have one..
[21:27] <yofel> if amarok isn't in CI, just leave it in bzr
[21:27] <clivejo> is amarok not the Kubuntu default player?
[21:28] <valorie> in future, we won't have the CI, since sitter has said he won't be maintaining it
[21:28] <valorie> bzr seems best in light of that
[21:28] <clivejo> I dont know how to use bzr
[21:29] <valorie> it's just One More Version Control System
[21:29] <valorie> not that I know it well
[21:29] <clivejo> I thought it was being "retired"
[21:29] <valorie> not that I know of -- just nobody working on it
[21:30] <valorie> but we could convert our bzr stuff to git I guess
[21:30] <valorie> 'tis the wave of the future
[21:30] <yofel> it's a DVCS that works a bit like git and svn at the same time.
[21:31] <yofel> yeah, we should do that at some point..
[21:31] <valorie> Riddell likes it a lot
[21:31] <clivejo> Riddell likes what?
[21:31] <valorie> bzr
[21:31] <yofel> I like it as well as an SVN replacement. For complex stuff git is better
[21:31] <clivejo> really?
[21:31] <yofel> well, he worked on the bzr team for half a year ^^
[21:32] <clivejo> didnt Canonical make it :/
[21:32] <valorie> while he still worked for Canonical he did 6 months of maintainance/development
[21:32] <valorie> on it
[21:32] <valorie> yes, it's a Canonical product now opensourced
[21:32] <valorie> same with launchpad
[21:43] <clivejo> misisng files for Amamok - https://paste.kde.org/pxl1tmxyc
[21:43] <clivejo> need help putting them in packages
[21:44] <clivejo> 1-18 put in amamok.install?
[21:44] <clivejo> 19 in amamok-common?
[21:45] <clivejo> or would 8-18 go in amamok-utils?
[21:47] <yofel> no, -utils is for bin/ stuff that's also shipped with amarok. Your first guess was right
[21:53] <clivejo> and the non-binary go into common?
[21:55] <clivejo> well thats where Im putting them :P
[21:56] <clivejo> right, lets see what pbuilder makes of it
[21:59] <clivejo> yofel: can I make pbuild use 4 threads?
[22:03] <clivejo> exciting :) kdeconnect got bumped to 0.9 !
[22:03] <clivejo> getting nearer to the v1 release
[22:03] <soee_> :)
[22:16] <clivejo> pbuild is soooo slowwww
[22:18] <yofel> yes you can, put that in your .pbuilderrc: export DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="parallel=4"
[22:21] <clivejo> :)
[22:21] <clivejo> happy days
[22:43] <clivejo> soee_: ping
[23:05] <Riddell> valorie: bzr has always been GPL and it's always been a GNU project
[23:10] <clivejo> Riddell: cant you have a look at amarok in my PPA?
[23:10] <clivejo> can you
[23:10] <Riddell> clivejo: ooh, sure
[23:11] <clivejo> there are a few patches wouldnt apply, so I commented them out
[23:13] <valorie> Riddell: I thought it was developed privately at first?
[23:13] <valorie> no matter
[23:13] <valorie> as long as it's free now
[23:13] <valorie> perhaps I'm thinking of launchpad
[23:13] <ahoneybun> I'm thinking it is like github
[23:13] <Riddell> before bzr was baz, a fork or tom lord's arch, now that was nuts, it was written in bash
[23:14] <ahoneybun> git is free and open but not github
[23:14] <valorie> well, git came first
[23:14] <valorie> github just makes use of it
[23:14] <ahoneybun> oh
[23:15] <valorie> dunno why it gets recommended by fossy people, when it is not foss
[23:15] <Riddell> clivejo: don't install the dbus-1/interfaces files, they're just developer files
[23:16] <Riddell> clivejo: what's the reason for removing the patches you removed?
[23:22] <clivejo> Riddell: Im restoring them
[23:22] <Riddell> clivejo: I think you're right to remove them
[23:22] <Riddell> debian_disable_qtscriptbindings_check_fix.diff should go
[23:23] <clivejo> I could find the lines it was trying to change
[23:23] <clivejo> couldnt
[23:23] <Riddell> debian_mysqle_amarok_local_errmsg_feature.diff and debian_mysqle_force_defaults_file.diff patch MySqlEmbeddedStorage.cpp which is still around but seems changed
[23:23] <Riddell> and kubuntu_mysql_pic_library_path.diff well if it's compiles then I guess it's not needed any more
[23:23] <Riddell> so aye, drop them
[23:23] <Riddell> tested the application?
[23:23] <clivejo> I figured they fixed them upstream
[23:24] <Riddell> does it still play the music?
[23:24] <clivejo> not sure
[23:24] <clivejo> asked soee_ to test
[23:24] <clivejo> I dont use it, so I dont know what is normal operation!
[23:27] <clivejo> ok so moved those dbus files to not-installed
[23:33] <clivejo> yes, plays music
[23:34] <clivejo> and in about > Version 2.8.90
[23:34] <clivejo> will I upload the changes to install file to my PPA?
[23:37] <clivejo> Riddell: ^
[23:41] <clivejo> Screen shot for Amarok - http://s24.postimg.org/rie4clhgl/Amarok.jpg
[23:42] <clivejo> *pokes soee_*
[23:44] <soee_> clivejo: will check
[23:46] <clivejo> :)
[23:46] <Riddell> clivejo: yes please do upload
[23:47] <Riddell> clivejo: then ask Mamarok when the final release is planned and whether we should put it into wily proper or into backports PPA
[23:50] <clivejo> https://amarok.kde.org/en/node/887 seems to indicate when they get the bugs fixed
[23:51] <soee_> clivejo: looks like all works pretty good
[23:51] <clivejo> Im sure soee_ will let us know ;)
[23:52] <clivejo> Riddell: it might miss wily ?
[23:53] <yofel> valorie: it has a nice featureset and it's like the one public and easy to use git hosting service that actually works
[23:54] <clivejo> I wish Quassel had intregrated Kontact support, so I could create a To-Do task from your IRC comment
[23:56] <soee_> http://wstaw.org/m/2015/09/13/snapshot22.png
[23:56] <clivejo> working ok soee_?
[23:57] <soee_> well to test all features etc. i would need more than hour i think  :-) Playing songs/radio works fine
[23:58] <soee_> i'm not sure if this icons next to cover shoudl be placed there though
[23:59] <soee_> but this woudl be related to amarok itself not packaging