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OerHeksdouble espresso coming up for Tj00:36
OerHeks:-D00:36
daftykins:D00:38
lotuspsychjegood (early) morning guys00:53
OerHeksyou are pretty late, mate :-D00:54
OerHekshi lotus00:54
lotuspsychjelol00:54
lotuspsychjehi OerHeks00:54
OerHeksi just dumped 3 pc's00:54
lotuspsychjewow00:54
lotuspsychjewhats the plan?00:54
OerHeks* without ram/hdd/powerblock00:54
OerHeksNothing, just sad about nobody wants them00:55
OerHeksNow i have a little more space to breath00:55
lotuspsychjeah, i also trash out empty pc's to the trashpark00:55
lotuspsychjeempty cases nobody ever want :p00:56
OerHeksI brought one to the scrapyard, last year they would give 10 euro for each. now nothing.00:56
lotuspsychjebut i empty them out completly just mobo, i dont remove00:56
OerHeksI'm collectin cpus now00:56
lotuspsychje:p00:57
lotuspsychjefor thr antique collection :p00:57
lotuspsychjemorning EriC^^  TJ- and Bashing-om00:59
lotuspsychjeoh and daftykins surely grabbing a beer again :p01:00
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: o? Shift change already ? Time flies as we have so much fun .01:00
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: im too early, keep it busy your doing great :p01:00
OerHeksShould i make a list of items, or is this pic enough? http://picpaste.com/pcparts-d2r5DkWV.JPG01:01
lotuspsychjeok so windows 10 is free,full of privacy issues and forcing users to update without permission...and still 75 million users already upgraded..wth's going on?01:01
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: nice collection!01:02
OerHeksNope, i don't get a free copy of windows 10 :-(01:02
lotuspsychjei think the mass cow tribe only understands the word 'free'01:03
TJ-morning lotuspsychje ... was miles away in Xorg land :)01:04
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: you need to build something with that collection :p01:04
lotuspsychjeTJ-: lol you tech dreamer01:05
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: maybe find empty NAS case and make home network storage?01:05
OerHeksI have plenty machines spare to do so, but first i go clean my house a little more, washing windows and so on, before it is too cold.01:06
OerHeksserver stuff is winter time01:06
lotuspsychjeah yeah, total transformation01:07
OerHeksAnd we might get some nice autumn days, who knows01:07
TJ-I daren't show photos of all the gadgets I've got here - cupboards and crates full :)01:08
lotuspsychjeTJ-: lol01:08
OerHeksI am happy to park my bicycle in my basement again01:09
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: yeah i think its gonna get warm01:09
OerHeksTJ-, please do01:09
OerHeksmaybe we can swap01:09
OerHeksbtw this pic is besides the crate of networkcables, powersupplies and spare computers and monitors01:10
TJ-OerHeks: I've got a mini data-center here, and lots of gadgets for forensics/debugging, as well as older equipment for use in legacy data recovery tasks01:13
OerHeks'I've been a very bad girl,' she said, biting her lip. 'I need to be punished.' 'Very well,' he said and installed Windows 10 on her laptop.02:49
* TJ- sniggers03:13
* OerHeks facepalms03:14
Bashing-omOerHeks: Wife is sitting beside me - on Windows 10 . I had to share ^ . she emphatically said " I like Windows 10, it is fast " .03:17
OerHeksI have never seen windows 10 working .. yet.03:19
* lotuspsychje doenst wanna see it :p03:22
Bashing-omOerHeks: Wife runs a graphics station . Took only a bit to adjust for her, and yes she likes Win10 for what she does .03:23
OerHeksWith win 8.1 i tried to help friends connecting a canon printer .. "No driver available :-(" i hope win 10 does better03:24
lotuspsychjelol03:24
Bashing-om(We also pay high dollar for malware protection) , and the time spent in 'protecting' .03:24
lotuspsychjethis time they have ridicoulized themselfs very bad...03:26
Bashing-omeven if it is systemd - I am going to 'buntu !03:28
lordievaderGood morning08:16
daftykinssince when did i get the reputation for drinking XD13:53
daftykinsthat's a bad lotus!13:53
daftykinsever feel like you're talking to a brick wall? :D15:17
pauljwheheh...15:20
OerHeksno, but i have felt a brick wall once .. is that the same feeling?15:37
daftykins:)15:38
daftykinswhen i was in Wales we were all stood at a hotel reception when a friend of mine kept asking if they had any spare beds15:39
daftykinsthe poor hotel manager said about 4 times in a row "no we're fully booked"15:39
daftykinswe were all a bit shocked he kept repeating himself XD15:39
daftykins(my friend repeating himself that is, asking the same thing again and again)15:40
daftykinshmm when cfhowlett comes back, he has an M3800 i think - but i was sure he's already been speaking to this guy17:10
OerHeksah, good to know17:11
OerHeksi am glad i got sofar17:11
OerHeksThis is worth a ubuntu page...17:11
OerHeks.. or... should he try Wily ? kernel 4.2 solves a lot of things17:12
daftykinsmmm not sure really, it's weird to go as far as visible wireless networks with intel hardware (which is usually fine) and get nothing17:13
daftykinsthis guy that's talking about installing packages with npm, do we really allow alternative package manager support? or is it some other magical tech?17:15
OerHeksYes, it is NodeJS stuff, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-node-js-on-an-ubuntu-14-04-server17:22
OerHekssend him to server, i guess?17:23
daftykinsseems more appropriate yeah17:27
daftykinsbeen a long time since i ducked my head in there to see how active it is :D17:28
OerHekspretty active, but one should be patient. weekend is probably the best time.17:30
lotuspsychjegood evening to all18:18
daftykins\o18:19
lotuspsychjehi daftykins :p18:19
pauljwhi18:21
lotuspsychjehi pauljw18:25
pauljw:)  how are you today lotuspsychje ?18:26
lotuspsychjefine fine tnx pauljw bout you?18:26
pauljwdoing well, too, thnx.18:26
daftykins:D18:31
EriC^^evening lotuspsychje18:39
lotuspsychjehi EriC^^ how you doing mate :p18:40
EriC^^good thx, you?18:40
lotuspsychjegreat tnx18:40
lotuspsychjegood evening wileee18:45
lotuspsychjehey MonkeyDust :p18:49
lotuspsychjelong time no see18:49
MonkeyDusthi18:49
lotuspsychjehow you doin mate18:50
MonkeyDustjust found this great command: inxi18:50
lotuspsychjewhats that18:50
MonkeyDustit shows basic or advanced system settings18:50
sifosifosifohello :)18:50
lotuspsychje!info inxi18:51
ubot5inxi (source: inxi): full featured system information script. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.2.16-0ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 120 kB, installed size 564 kB18:51
MonkeyDustand even the weather18:51
sifosifosifowhat is the best gui for ubuntu ?18:51
lotuspsychje!flavors | sifosifosifo18:51
ubot5sifosifosifo: !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu.18:51
MonkeyDustsifosifosifo  what you like most, that's the best18:51
lotuspsychjeMonkeyDust: is that an indicator or gui program?18:51
sifosifosifoi need for pentium 3 :)18:51
sifosifosifofor very old computer :)18:52
lotuspsychjesifosifosifo: xubuntu or lubuntu will do fine18:52
sifosifosifook thanks :)18:53
MonkeyDustlotuspsychje  cli, try 'inxi -r'18:53
lotuspsychjeMonkeyDust: lemme test that stuff :p18:53
MonkeyDustor inxi -A18:53
MonkeyDustor inxi -W amsterdam,holland18:53
lotuspsychjelotuspsychje@R00TB0X:~$ inxi -A18:54
lotuspsychjeAudio:     Card-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Wrestler HDMI Audio driver: snd_hda_intel18:54
lotuspsychje           Card-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver: snd_hda_intel18:54
lotuspsychje           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.13.0-63-generic18:54
lotuspsychjecool18:54
MonkeyDustor inxi -F18:55
wileeelotuspsychje, howdee ; )18:55
lotuspsychjelotuspsychje@R00TB0X:~$ inxi -W brussels,belgium18:55
lotuspsychjeWeather:   Conditions: 61 F (16 C) - rain Time: September 12, 8:55 PM CEST18:55
lotuspsychjeMonkeyDust: tnx for that mate!18:55
MonkeyDustlotuspsychje  are you dutch or belgian?18:56
lotuspsychjeMonkeyDust: belgian18:56
MonkeyDustah, me too, thought you were dutch18:56
lotuspsychjeMonkeyDust: wich city18:56
MonkeyDustantwerp18:56
lotuspsychjeMonkeyDust: bruges here18:56
lotuspsychjenice nice18:57
lotuspsychjeMonkeyDust: inxi is very usefull greattt18:58
TJ-I just wish it didn't Depend: on X11 packages; those should be Recommends:, so inxi can be installed on servers and such-like19:02
MonkeyDustinxi scares me a bit, inxi -i also shows the wan IP address19:05
lordievaderTJ-: I believe that is a compile flag for inxi.19:05
lordievaderHmm, perhaps not.19:06
TJ-lordievader: regardless; the Ubuntu packages would be more useful without that dependency19:06
lordievaderAgreed.19:06
TJ-I'm having a fight with grub right now; sorting out its USB serial support. I might look at that in, oh, about a year :)19:07
lotuspsychjeMonkeyDust: love the color theme on inxi output :p19:16
lotuspsychjeim using colortail for syslog myself19:16
lotuspsychje!info colortail19:17
ubot5colortail (source: colortail): log colorizer that makes log checking easier. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3.3-1 (vivid), package size 24 kB, installed size 144 kB19:17
MonkeyDustlotuspsychje  yes, i've been playing with color schemes too :)19:26
TJ-journalctl does all that for you :)19:27
lotuspsychje!info journalctl19:27
ubot5Package journalctl does not exist in vivid19:27
MonkeyDust!info journalctl trusty19:28
ubot5Package journalctl does not exist in trusty19:28
MonkeyDust!find journal19:28
ubot5Found: libsystemd-journal-dev, gnome-activity-journal, libghc-libsystemd-journal-dev, libghc-libsystemd-journal-doc, libghc-libsystemd-journal-prof, libghc-monad-journal-dev, libghc-monad-journal-doc, libghc-monad-journal-prof, liblivejournal-perl, python-schooltool.lyceum.journal (and 5 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=journal&searchon=names&suite=vivid&section=all19:28
lotuspsychjeTJ-: point us the right direction :p19:28
lotuspsychje!info journalctl wily19:29
ubot5Package journalctl does not exist in wily19:29
lotuspsychjeTJ-: this is default on wily man page perhaps for systemd?19:36
TJ-!info systemd wily19:36
ubot5systemd (source: systemd): system and service manager. In component main, is required. Version 222-2ubuntu1 (wily), package size 3472 kB, installed size 19468 kB (Only available for linux-any)19:36
TJ-journalctl is the CLI interface to the journald logs19:37
lotuspsychjeTJ-: so comes togheter with systemd?19:37
TJ-Yes. It's very, very, powerful. Beats grep/tail/etc.,19:39
lotuspsychjeNICE :P19:39
lotuspsychjeill test it on 16.04 :p19:39
TJ-On Wily the logs are also being passed to rsyslogd so all the expected text logs are also there19:40
lordievaderJournalctl is rather nice, being able to specify from what unit you want logs is very usefull.19:40
TJ-The only one that is empty is /var/log/dmesg (but avaiable via 'dmesg' directly, of course)19:40
lotuspsychjeTJ-: also syntax highlighted?19:41
TJ-lotuspsychje: it auto-highlights messages based on their level so they stand out. Errors in red, etc.19:41
lotuspsychjecool19:42
TJ-And you can easily filter logs to see a sub-set of messages from services you're interested in, and set --since --before date ranges19:42
TJ-My primary dislike of systemd was that distro's weren't configuring it to forward the logs to rsylogd so we lost easy access to logs in the event of a failure. Now the distros are doing that, it's the best of both worlds. On a running system, using 'journalctl' saves about 50% of the time trying to locate useful log messages.19:44
lotuspsychjesounds nicely19:45
daftykinsvery novel one this Qukslice23:22
EriC^^what's novel mean23:22
daftykins'original'23:22
EriC^^ah i see23:23
EriC^^yeah23:23
EriC^^i dunno if this guy's trolling or what23:29
EriC^^now he says permission denied :O23:31
daftykinsi think it's a big show personally23:31

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