[00:36] <OerHeks> double espresso coming up for Tj
[00:36] <OerHeks> :-D
[00:38] <daftykins> :D
[00:53] <lotuspsychje> good (early) morning guys
[00:54] <OerHeks> you are pretty late, mate :-D
[00:54] <OerHeks> hi lotus
[00:54] <lotuspsychje> lol
[00:54] <lotuspsychje> hi OerHeks
[00:54] <OerHeks> i just dumped 3 pc's
[00:54] <lotuspsychje> wow
[00:54] <lotuspsychje> whats the plan?
[00:54] <OerHeks> * without ram/hdd/powerblock
[00:55] <OerHeks> Nothing, just sad about nobody wants them
[00:55] <OerHeks> Now i have a little more space to breath
[00:55] <lotuspsychje> ah, i also trash out empty pc's to the trashpark
[00:56] <lotuspsychje> empty cases nobody ever want :p
[00:56] <OerHeks> I brought one to the scrapyard, last year they would give 10 euro for each. now nothing.
[00:56] <lotuspsychje> but i empty them out completly just mobo, i dont remove
[00:56] <OerHeks> I'm collectin cpus now
[00:57] <lotuspsychje> :p
[00:57] <lotuspsychje> for thr antique collection :p
[00:59] <lotuspsychje> morning EriC^^  TJ- and Bashing-om
[01:00] <lotuspsychje> oh and daftykins surely grabbing a beer again :p
[01:00] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: o? Shift change already ? Time flies as we have so much fun .
[01:00] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: im too early, keep it busy your doing great :p
[01:01] <OerHeks> Should i make a list of items, or is this pic enough? http://picpaste.com/pcparts-d2r5DkWV.JPG
[01:01] <lotuspsychje> ok so windows 10 is free,full of privacy issues and forcing users to update without permission...and still 75 million users already upgraded..wth's going on?
[01:02] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: nice collection!
[01:02] <OerHeks> Nope, i don't get a free copy of windows 10 :-(
[01:03] <lotuspsychje> i think the mass cow tribe only understands the word 'free'
[01:04] <TJ-> morning lotuspsychje ... was miles away in Xorg land :)
[01:04] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: you need to build something with that collection :p
[01:05] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: lol you tech dreamer
[01:05] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: maybe find empty NAS case and make home network storage?
[01:06] <OerHeks> I have plenty machines spare to do so, but first i go clean my house a little more, washing windows and so on, before it is too cold.
[01:06] <OerHeks> server stuff is winter time
[01:07] <lotuspsychje> ah yeah, total transformation
[01:07] <OerHeks> And we might get some nice autumn days, who knows
[01:08] <TJ-> I daren't show photos of all the gadgets I've got here - cupboards and crates full :)
[01:08] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: lol
[01:09] <OerHeks> I am happy to park my bicycle in my basement again
[01:09] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: yeah i think its gonna get warm
[01:09] <OerHeks> TJ-, please do
[01:09] <OerHeks> maybe we can swap
[01:10] <OerHeks> btw this pic is besides the crate of networkcables, powersupplies and spare computers and monitors
[01:13] <TJ-> OerHeks: I've got a mini data-center here, and lots of gadgets for forensics/debugging, as well as older equipment for use in legacy data recovery tasks
[02:49] <OerHeks> 'I've been a very bad girl,' she said, biting her lip. 'I need to be punished.' 'Very well,' he said and installed Windows 10 on her laptop.
[03:13]  * TJ- sniggers
[03:14]  * OerHeks facepalms
[03:17] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: Wife is sitting beside me - on Windows 10 . I had to share ^ . she emphatically said " I like Windows 10, it is fast " .
[03:19] <OerHeks> I have never seen windows 10 working .. yet.
[03:22]  * lotuspsychje doenst wanna see it :p
[03:23] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: Wife runs a graphics station . Took only a bit to adjust for her, and yes she likes Win10 for what she does .
[03:24] <OerHeks> With win 8.1 i tried to help friends connecting a canon printer .. "No driver available :-(" i hope win 10 does better
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> lol
[03:24] <Bashing-om> (We also pay high dollar for malware protection) , and the time spent in 'protecting' .
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> this time they have ridicoulized themselfs very bad...
[03:28] <Bashing-om> even if it is systemd - I am going to 'buntu !
[08:16] <lordievader> Good morning
[13:53] <daftykins> since when did i get the reputation for drinking XD
[13:53] <daftykins> that's a bad lotus!
[15:17] <daftykins> ever feel like you're talking to a brick wall? :D
[15:20] <pauljw> heheh...
[15:37] <OerHeks> no, but i have felt a brick wall once .. is that the same feeling?
[15:38] <daftykins> :)
[15:39] <daftykins> when i was in Wales we were all stood at a hotel reception when a friend of mine kept asking if they had any spare beds
[15:39] <daftykins> the poor hotel manager said about 4 times in a row "no we're fully booked"
[15:39] <daftykins> we were all a bit shocked he kept repeating himself XD
[15:40] <daftykins> (my friend repeating himself that is, asking the same thing again and again)
[17:10] <daftykins> hmm when cfhowlett comes back, he has an M3800 i think - but i was sure he's already been speaking to this guy
[17:11] <OerHeks> ah, good to know
[17:11] <OerHeks> i am glad i got sofar
[17:11] <OerHeks> This is worth a ubuntu page...
[17:12] <OerHeks> .. or... should he try Wily ? kernel 4.2 solves a lot of things
[17:13] <daftykins> mmm not sure really, it's weird to go as far as visible wireless networks with intel hardware (which is usually fine) and get nothing
[17:15] <daftykins> this guy that's talking about installing packages with npm, do we really allow alternative package manager support? or is it some other magical tech?
[17:22] <OerHeks> Yes, it is NodeJS stuff, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-node-js-on-an-ubuntu-14-04-server
[17:23] <OerHeks> send him to server, i guess?
[17:27] <daftykins> seems more appropriate yeah
[17:28] <daftykins> been a long time since i ducked my head in there to see how active it is :D
[17:30] <OerHeks> pretty active, but one should be patient. weekend is probably the best time.
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[18:19] <daftykins> \o
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> hi daftykins :p
[18:21] <pauljw> hi
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> hi pauljw
[18:26] <pauljw> :)  how are you today lotuspsychje ?
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> fine fine tnx pauljw bout you?
[18:26] <pauljw> doing well, too, thnx.
[18:31] <daftykins> :D
[18:39] <EriC^^> evening lotuspsychje
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> hi EriC^^ how you doing mate :p
[18:40] <EriC^^> good thx, you?
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> great tnx
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> good evening wileee
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> hey MonkeyDust :p
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> long time no see
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> hi
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> how you doin mate
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> just found this great command: inxi
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> whats that
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> it shows basic or advanced system settings
[18:50] <sifosifosifo> hello :)
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> !info inxi
[18:51] <ubot5> inxi (source: inxi): full featured system information script. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.2.16-0ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 120 kB, installed size 564 kB
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> and even the weather
[18:51] <sifosifosifo> what is the best gui for ubuntu ?
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | sifosifosifo
[18:51] <ubot5> sifosifosifo: !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu.
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> sifosifosifo  what you like most, that's the best
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: is that an indicator or gui program?
[18:51] <sifosifosifo> i need for pentium 3 :)
[18:52] <sifosifosifo> for very old computer :)
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> sifosifosifo: xubuntu or lubuntu will do fine
[18:53] <sifosifosifo> ok thanks :)
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  cli, try 'inxi -r'
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: lemme test that stuff :p
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> or inxi -A
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> or inxi -W amsterdam,holland
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje@R00TB0X:~$ inxi -A
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> Audio:     Card-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Wrestler HDMI Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
[18:54] <lotuspsychje>            Card-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver: snd_hda_intel
[18:54] <lotuspsychje>            Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.13.0-63-generic
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> cool
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> or inxi -F
[18:55] <wileee> lotuspsychje, howdee ; )
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje@R00TB0X:~$ inxi -W brussels,belgium
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> Weather:   Conditions: 61 F (16 C) - rain Time: September 12, 8:55 PM CEST
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: tnx for that mate!
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  are you dutch or belgian?
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: belgian
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> ah, me too, thought you were dutch
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: wich city
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> antwerp
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: bruges here
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> nice nice
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: inxi is very usefull greattt
[19:02] <TJ-> I just wish it didn't Depend: on X11 packages; those should be Recommends:, so inxi can be installed on servers and such-like
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> inxi scares me a bit, inxi -i also shows the wan IP address
[19:05] <lordievader> TJ-: I believe that is a compile flag for inxi.
[19:06] <lordievader> Hmm, perhaps not.
[19:06] <TJ-> lordievader: regardless; the Ubuntu packages would be more useful without that dependency
[19:06] <lordievader> Agreed.
[19:07] <TJ-> I'm having a fight with grub right now; sorting out its USB serial support. I might look at that in, oh, about a year :)
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: love the color theme on inxi output :p
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> im using colortail for syslog myself
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> !info colortail
[19:17] <ubot5> colortail (source: colortail): log colorizer that makes log checking easier. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3.3-1 (vivid), package size 24 kB, installed size 144 kB
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  yes, i've been playing with color schemes too :)
[19:27] <TJ-> journalctl does all that for you :)
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> !info journalctl
[19:27] <ubot5> Package journalctl does not exist in vivid
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> !info journalctl trusty
[19:28] <ubot5> Package journalctl does not exist in trusty
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> !find journal
[19:28] <ubot5> Found: libsystemd-journal-dev, gnome-activity-journal, libghc-libsystemd-journal-dev, libghc-libsystemd-journal-doc, libghc-libsystemd-journal-prof, libghc-monad-journal-dev, libghc-monad-journal-doc, libghc-monad-journal-prof, liblivejournal-perl, python-schooltool.lyceum.journal (and 5 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=journal&searchon=names&suite=vivid&section=all
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: point us the right direction :p
[19:29] <lotuspsychje> !info journalctl wily
[19:29] <ubot5> Package journalctl does not exist in wily
[19:36] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: this is default on wily man page perhaps for systemd?
[19:36] <TJ-> !info systemd wily
[19:36] <ubot5> systemd (source: systemd): system and service manager. In component main, is required. Version 222-2ubuntu1 (wily), package size 3472 kB, installed size 19468 kB (Only available for linux-any)
[19:37] <TJ-> journalctl is the CLI interface to the journald logs
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: so comes togheter with systemd?
[19:39] <TJ-> Yes. It's very, very, powerful. Beats grep/tail/etc.,
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> NICE :P
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> ill test it on 16.04 :p
[19:40] <TJ-> On Wily the logs are also being passed to rsyslogd so all the expected text logs are also there
[19:40] <lordievader> Journalctl is rather nice, being able to specify from what unit you want logs is very usefull.
[19:40] <TJ-> The only one that is empty is /var/log/dmesg (but avaiable via 'dmesg' directly, of course)
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: also syntax highlighted?
[19:41] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: it auto-highlights messages based on their level so they stand out. Errors in red, etc.
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> cool
[19:42] <TJ-> And you can easily filter logs to see a sub-set of messages from services you're interested in, and set --since --before date ranges
[19:44] <TJ-> My primary dislike of systemd was that distro's weren't configuring it to forward the logs to rsylogd so we lost easy access to logs in the event of a failure. Now the distros are doing that, it's the best of both worlds. On a running system, using 'journalctl' saves about 50% of the time trying to locate useful log messages.
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> sounds nicely
[23:22] <daftykins> very novel one this Qukslice
[23:22] <EriC^^> what's novel mean
[23:22] <daftykins> 'original'
[23:23] <EriC^^> ah i see
[23:23] <EriC^^> yeah
[23:29] <EriC^^> i dunno if this guy's trolling or what
[23:31] <EriC^^> now he says permission denied :O
[23:31] <daftykins> i think it's a big show personally