[00:36] <OerHeks> double espresso coming up for Tj
[00:36] <OerHeks> :-D
[00:38] <daftykins> :D
[00:53] <lotuspsychje> good (early) morning guys
[00:54] <OerHeks> you are pretty late, mate :-D
[00:54] <OerHeks> hi lotus
[00:54] <lotuspsychje> lol
[00:54] <lotuspsychje> hi OerHeks
[00:54] <OerHeks> i just dumped 3 pc's
[00:54] <lotuspsychje> wow
[00:54] <lotuspsychje> whats the plan?
[00:54] <OerHeks> * without ram/hdd/powerblock
[00:55] <OerHeks> Nothing, just sad about nobody wants them
[00:55] <OerHeks> Now i have a little more space to breath
[00:55] <lotuspsychje> ah, i also trash out empty pc's to the trashpark
[00:56] <lotuspsychje> empty cases nobody ever want :p
[00:56] <OerHeks> I brought one to the scrapyard, last year they would give 10 euro for each. now nothing.
[00:56] <lotuspsychje> but i empty them out completly just mobo, i dont remove
[00:56] <OerHeks> I'm collectin cpus now
[00:57] <lotuspsychje> :p
[00:57] <lotuspsychje> for thr antique collection :p
[00:59] <lotuspsychje> morning EriC^^  TJ- and Bashing-om
[01:00] <lotuspsychje> oh and daftykins surely grabbing a beer again :p
[01:00] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: o? Shift change already ? Time flies as we have so much fun .
[01:00] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: im too early, keep it busy your doing great :p
[01:01] <OerHeks> Should i make a list of items, or is this pic enough? http://picpaste.com/pcparts-d2r5DkWV.JPG
[01:01] <lotuspsychje> ok so windows 10 is free,full of privacy issues and forcing users to update without permission...and still 75 million users already upgraded..wth's going on?
[01:02] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: nice collection!
[01:02] <OerHeks> Nope, i don't get a free copy of windows 10 :-(
[01:03] <lotuspsychje> i think the mass cow tribe only understands the word 'free'
[01:04] <TJ-> morning lotuspsychje ... was miles away in Xorg land :)
[01:04] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: you need to build something with that collection :p
[01:05] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: lol you tech dreamer
[01:05] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: maybe find empty NAS case and make home network storage?
[01:06] <OerHeks> I have plenty machines spare to do so, but first i go clean my house a little more, washing windows and so on, before it is too cold.
[01:06] <OerHeks> server stuff is winter time
[01:07] <lotuspsychje> ah yeah, total transformation
[01:07] <OerHeks> And we might get some nice autumn days, who knows
[01:08] <TJ-> I daren't show photos of all the gadgets I've got here - cupboards and crates full :)
[01:08] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: lol
[01:09] <OerHeks> I am happy to park my bicycle in my basement again
[01:09] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: yeah i think its gonna get warm
[01:09] <OerHeks> TJ-, please do
[01:09] <OerHeks> maybe we can swap
[01:10] <OerHeks> btw this pic is besides the crate of networkcables, powersupplies and spare computers and monitors
[01:13] <TJ-> OerHeks: I've got a mini data-center here, and lots of gadgets for forensics/debugging, as well as older equipment for use in legacy data recovery tasks
[02:49] <OerHeks> 'I've been a very bad girl,' she said, biting her lip. 'I need to be punished.' 'Very well,' he said and installed Windows 10 on her laptop.
[03:13]  * TJ- sniggers
[03:14]  * OerHeks facepalms
[03:17] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: Wife is sitting beside me - on Windows 10 . I had to share ^ . she emphatically said " I like Windows 10, it is fast " .
[03:19] <OerHeks> I have never seen windows 10 working .. yet.
[03:22]  * lotuspsychje doenst wanna see it :p
[03:23] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: Wife runs a graphics station . Took only a bit to adjust for her, and yes she likes Win10 for what she does .
[03:24] <OerHeks> With win 8.1 i tried to help friends connecting a canon printer .. "No driver available :-(" i hope win 10 does better
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> lol
[03:24] <Bashing-om> (We also pay high dollar for malware protection) , and the time spent in 'protecting' .
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> this time they have ridicoulized themselfs very bad...
[03:28] <Bashing-om> even if it is systemd - I am going to 'buntu !
[08:16] <lordievader> Good morning
[13:53] <daftykins> since when did i get the reputation for drinking XD
[13:53] <daftykins> that's a bad lotus!
[15:17] <daftykins> ever feel like you're talking to a brick wall? :D
[15:20] <pauljw> heheh...
[15:37] <OerHeks> no, but i have felt a brick wall once .. is that the same feeling?
[15:38] <daftykins> :)
[15:39] <daftykins> when i was in Wales we were all stood at a hotel reception when a friend of mine kept asking if they had any spare beds
[15:39] <daftykins> the poor hotel manager said about 4 times in a row "no we're fully booked"
[15:39] <daftykins> we were all a bit shocked he kept repeating himself XD
[15:40] <daftykins> (my friend repeating himself that is, asking the same thing again and again)
[17:10] <daftykins> hmm when cfhowlett comes back, he has an M3800 i think - but i was sure he's already been speaking to this guy
[17:11] <OerHeks> ah, good to know
[17:11] <OerHeks> i am glad i got sofar
[17:11] <OerHeks> This is worth a ubuntu page...
[17:12] <OerHeks> .. or... should he try Wily ? kernel 4.2 solves a lot of things
[17:13] <daftykins> mmm not sure really, it's weird to go as far as visible wireless networks with intel hardware (which is usually fine) and get nothing
[17:15] <daftykins> this guy that's talking about installing packages with npm, do we really allow alternative package manager support? or is it some other magical tech?
[17:22] <OerHeks> Yes, it is NodeJS stuff, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-node-js-on-an-ubuntu-14-04-server
[17:23] <OerHeks> send him to server, i guess?
[17:27] <daftykins> seems more appropriate yeah
[17:28] <daftykins> been a long time since i ducked my head in there to see how active it is :D
[17:30] <OerHeks> pretty active, but one should be patient. weekend is probably the best time.
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[18:19] <daftykins> \o
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> hi daftykins :p
[18:21] <pauljw> hi
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> hi pauljw
[18:26] <pauljw> :)  how are you today lotuspsychje ?
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> fine fine tnx pauljw bout you?
[18:26] <pauljw> doing well, too, thnx.
[18:31] <daftykins> :D
[18:39] <EriC^^> evening lotuspsychje
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> hi EriC^^ how you doing mate :p
[18:40] <EriC^^> good thx, you?
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> great tnx
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> good evening wileee
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> hey MonkeyDust :p
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> long time no see
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> hi
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> how you doin mate
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> just found this great command: inxi
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> whats that
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> it shows basic or advanced system settings
[18:50] <sifosifosifo> hello :)
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> !info inxi
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> and even the weather
[18:51] <sifosifosifo> what is the best gui for ubuntu ?
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | sifosifosifo
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> sifosifosifo  what you like most, that's the best
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: is that an indicator or gui program?
[18:51] <sifosifosifo> i need for pentium 3 :)
[18:52] <sifosifosifo> for very old computer :)
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> sifosifosifo: xubuntu or lubuntu will do fine
[18:53] <sifosifosifo> ok thanks :)
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  cli, try 'inxi -r'
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: lemme test that stuff :p
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> or inxi -A
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> or inxi -W amsterdam,holland
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje@R00TB0X:~$ inxi -A
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> Audio:     Card-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Wrestler HDMI Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
[18:54] <lotuspsychje>            Card-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver: snd_hda_intel
[18:54] <lotuspsychje>            Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.13.0-63-generic
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> cool
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> or inxi -F
[18:55] <wileee> lotuspsychje, howdee ; )
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje@R00TB0X:~$ inxi -W brussels,belgium
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> Weather:   Conditions: 61 F (16 C) - rain Time: September 12, 8:55 PM CEST
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: tnx for that mate!
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  are you dutch or belgian?
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: belgian
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> ah, me too, thought you were dutch
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: wich city
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> antwerp
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: bruges here
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> nice nice
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: inxi is very usefull greattt
[19:02] <TJ-> I just wish it didn't Depend: on X11 packages; those should be Recommends:, so inxi can be installed on servers and such-like
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> inxi scares me a bit, inxi -i also shows the wan IP address
[19:05] <lordievader> TJ-: I believe that is a compile flag for inxi.
[19:06] <lordievader> Hmm, perhaps not.
[19:06] <TJ-> lordievader: regardless; the Ubuntu packages would be more useful without that dependency
[19:06] <lordievader> Agreed.
[19:07] <TJ-> I'm having a fight with grub right now; sorting out its USB serial support. I might look at that in, oh, about a year :)
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: love the color theme on inxi output :p
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> im using colortail for syslog myself
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> !info colortail
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  yes, i've been playing with color schemes too :)
[19:27] <TJ-> journalctl does all that for you :)
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> !info journalctl
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> !info journalctl trusty
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> !find journal
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: point us the right direction :p
[19:29] <lotuspsychje> !info journalctl wily
[19:36] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: this is default on wily man page perhaps for systemd?
[19:36] <TJ-> !info systemd wily
[19:37] <TJ-> journalctl is the CLI interface to the journald logs
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: so comes togheter with systemd?
[19:39] <TJ-> Yes. It's very, very, powerful. Beats grep/tail/etc.,
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> NICE :P
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> ill test it on 16.04 :p
[19:40] <TJ-> On Wily the logs are also being passed to rsyslogd so all the expected text logs are also there
[19:40] <lordievader> Journalctl is rather nice, being able to specify from what unit you want logs is very usefull.
[19:40] <TJ-> The only one that is empty is /var/log/dmesg (but avaiable via 'dmesg' directly, of course)
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: also syntax highlighted?
[19:41] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: it auto-highlights messages based on their level so they stand out. Errors in red, etc.
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> cool
[19:42] <TJ-> And you can easily filter logs to see a sub-set of messages from services you're interested in, and set --since --before date ranges
[19:44] <TJ-> My primary dislike of systemd was that distro's weren't configuring it to forward the logs to rsylogd so we lost easy access to logs in the event of a failure. Now the distros are doing that, it's the best of both worlds. On a running system, using 'journalctl' saves about 50% of the time trying to locate useful log messages.
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> sounds nicely
[23:22] <daftykins> very novel one this Qukslice
[23:22] <EriC^^> what's novel mean
[23:22] <daftykins> 'original'
[23:23] <EriC^^> ah i see
[23:23] <EriC^^> yeah
[23:29] <EriC^^> i dunno if this guy's trolling or what
[23:31] <EriC^^> now he says permission denied :O
[23:31] <daftykins> i think it's a big show personally