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* daftykins disconnects the starter00:00
mapps;]00:20
penguin42huh I didn't know Brum had a maglec for 11 years01:02
mappswhats maglec/01:02
penguin42magnetic levitation train01:03
mappsah01:05
mappsgah02:43
mappsdaftykins?02:43
mapphmm what can i watch to sleep to..fedup watching same tv again and again04:23
mappmaybe radio would work04:23
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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:14
m6lpiMorning09:14
popeyyo09:47
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)10:10
Azelphurpopey: I kinda went overboard with this thing, https://dpaste.de/2jv0 this is running on the router now :)18:33
Azelphurshould work on any router that can run Python and has /proc/net/dev (which I think is pretty much any router that you can ssh into)18:34
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/ff8u8tf1vry58md/IMG_20150913_200045.jpg?dl=019:04
daftykinsthat's quite some traffic on my xbox one, 570GB since October of last19:04
popeyAzelphur: http://i.imgur.com/S4i3JDl.png19:19
penguin42popey: What provider are you on?19:22
Azelphurpopey: :)19:22
popeypenguin42: vm19:22
penguin42popey: Do you think you're hitting the throttling stuff that kicks in if you go over the limit in one hour where they slow you down for the next period?19:23
popeyI don't know what's causing it.19:23
popeyI don't think I do anything especially at that time.19:23
* penguin42 notes his ping time to google has doubled since about 6pm on Virgin, not sure if they're having problems or it's to do with the 5GB of updates I pulled19:24
popeyIf I post a phone which is switched on and unlocked to myself, do you think the gps will be able to track it much?19:27
daftykinsworth a try :D19:27
penguin42depends where it is and if it's bothered to use the GPS19:27
penguin42for an android phone the location history is worth a check19:28
mappshmm19:28
mappsi think yes19:28
popeymaybe pack a battery in the box too, to make sure it stays alive19:28
popeyfor fun19:29
penguin42http://i.imgur.com/bXtkGXm.png  ping time to google definitely a bit longer than normal19:29
popeyyou on vm too?19:29
penguin42popey: Yep19:29
penguin42popey: On their bottom end 50/319:29
popeyhttps://webmonkeyuk.wordpress.com/2012/01/26/putting-a-gps-tracker-in-the-mail/19:31
penguin42popey: It would be fun to gather an accelerometer trace as well as GPS19:32
popeyhah, yes19:33
penguin42popey: Both to see how it's been thrown and also you might be able to do integration to handle loss of GPS19:33
daftykinsi always found VM to feel held together with tape19:33
penguin42daftykins: I find their routing is generally excellent19:34
daftykinsso many wide outages though :D19:34
penguin42daftykins: Most of the outages I've had have been ~1hr type of screw ups, only one long one in ~2 years19:35
penguin42daftykins: And I'm using it ~10 hours a day now19:35
daftykinsi guess they've improved their game!19:35
daftykinsused to see a lot of middle of the night outages in Portsmouth19:35
penguin42not seen any lately, but it seems to be very area dependent19:36
daftykinsyeah, i was thinking perhaps being in a student area could increase it, but you're probably near a Uni too?19:37
penguin42hmm interesting, they've been having ping peaks to google for the last 4 days in the afternoon/evenings19:37
penguin42daftykins: Well it depends, I'm on the north side of Manchester, and most of the university stuff is in the centre/south19:38
daftykinsah right19:38
popeyOk, next question for the team!19:39
popeyWifey currently has iphone 4s, previously had an iphone 4, that was her first smartphone.19:39
popeyLooking to replace it (no, not ubuntu phone).19:39
daftykinsand she's not cult-tied?19:39
popeyShe likes small size phones (i.e. no stupid phablets)19:39
popeyno19:39
daftykinsany urgency?19:39
popeyshe doesn't care, so long as it has fb, whatsapp, camera, space for photos etc19:39
popeynot really19:40
popeyDon't want to spend a lot though19:40
popeySecond hand iPhone 5s is the competition.19:40
popeySo something simliar sized, similar spec, faster than 4s.19:40
popeysd card bonus19:40
czajkowskiI have an ubuntu phone looking to sell19:52
czajkowskii case anyone knows someone looking for one19:53
Azelphurpopey: what sorta price bracket is that?19:53
popeyczajkowski: awwww19:56
popeyAzelphur: dunno, couple of hundred quid I guess19:57
Azelphurpopey: hmm so you're looking for something ~5"?19:58
czajkowskipopey: just don't get enough use out of it19:58
popeyyeah, between the size of a 4s and 5s19:58
czajkowskias always have work aka main phone on as need the apps for work and travek19:59
popeyshe likes small phones19:59
czajkowskinext 8 weeks I'm travelling every other week :/19:59
Azelphurpopey: the new Nexus 5 is coming out in <1m, something to consider perhaps but might be a little pricey19:59
popeyand probably too huge19:59
czajkowskiI am hoping ot move to 3 at the end of October, Vodaphone are a pita19:59
czajkowskiand gtting a S619:59
popeyhm, old nexus 5 is pretty cheap20:01
mappsi see the 6s is up for preorder..i haven't bothered with iphone for a while so didn't even know :)20:01
Azelphurpopey: I thought Nexus 5 is too big? :P20:01
popeyit is20:02
Azelphurah20:02
foobarrynew moto g?20:02
foobarrygood price20:02
daftykinspopey: i nearly mentioned the Nexus 5s, as it seems a second one is on the way soonish20:02
popeyoooh, and has sd card20:02
foobarryalso sure to get M release on android20:03
daftykinsi'd go Nexus to be on the monthly security patch bandwagon20:03
daftykinsunless they'll do the same20:03
popeyugh, 1GB RAM20:03
Azelphurpopey: Sony Xperia Z3 compact meets all of your requirements.20:07
popeyoh! good call, forgot sony!20:07
popeylaura has one, and she loves it20:07
popeyexcellent.20:07
Azelphuryw20:07
Azelphuryea I believe it does everything you want, a tiny bit bigger than the 5s but not by much (123.8 x 58.6 x 7.6 mm vs 127.3 x 64.9 x 8.6 mm) has card slot, is around £200, is fairly current (2014, September)20:08
popeyalso, camera is a focus of it, which I like20:08
popeyshe takes a lot of photos / videos20:08
Azelphurhas android 5 upgrade too, along with some nice extra features like IP68, 720p display, Shatter proof glass and a 20MP camera20:08
Azelphuryea :)20:08
* Azelphur is good at phone finding20:09
foobarrypopey: which phone 1gb ram?20:11
Azelphurpopey: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sony-XPERIA-Z3-Compact-D5803-Black-Vodafone-MINT-with-dock-/151815304595?hash=item2358e5b593 here's your best price, bang on target budget wise :)20:11
daftykinsSony are a very poor android choice20:12
Azelphurdaftykins: you can fix that with https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=z3c20:12
daftykinsfix what?20:12
AzelphurSony are always amazing hardware shit software20:12
popeyfoobarry: moto g20:13
foobarrythe high er storage version also has more ram20:13
foobarry16gb version has 2gb i believe20:13
popeyah20:13
popeyAzelphur: locked to voda :(20:14
popeylittle stand is handy20:14
popeythat certainly is top of the list at the moment20:14
popeygood work Azelphur :)20:15
Azelphurpopey: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sony-XPERIA-Z3-Compact-D5803-Latest-Model-16GB-Black-Unlocked-Smartphone-Bundle-/361370436141?hash=item54235b422d best price unlocked, but probably best to just buy the one I linked, it's gonna cost less than £30 to unlock and it's in better condition and a stand too.20:15
Azelphuryw20:15
daftykinsoh LG G3s are pretty good too20:15
popeyyeah20:16
Azelphurpopey: to be clear, your requirements are <135mm, <66mm, Android, >=2GB RAM and Card slot?20:17
Azelphuroh, and £20020:17
popeyroughly, yeah20:17
AzelphurThen your only choices are the Z3 Compact, Z1 Compact, Huawei Ascend P6 or the ZTE Nubia Z5S Mini20:20
Azelphurthere are no other phones that meet all the above criteria :)20:20
foobarrynot the motog?20:20
AzelphurMoto G does not meet the criteria (>=2GB RAM) it only has 1GB RAM20:20
foobarryAzelphur: higher storage version has 2gb ram i beliebe20:21
foobarryThe Moto G now goes up to £209/$219 for the 2GB RAM/16GB storage version, or £179/$179/$250AU for the plain 1GB RAM/8GB storage20:21
Azelphurfoobarry: you mean the Moto G 3rd Gen? It fails the size requirements20:21
popeyheheh20:21
foobarry142.1 x 72.4 x 11.6 mm20:22
popeyI'm so glad I asked in here :)20:22
* Azelphur is helpful20:22
Azelphurand also a database of phones, apparently20:22
foobarrystatto20:22
* foobarry goes back to watching phoneshop20:22
foobarrywhats 7mm between friends?20:23
Azelphurfoobarry: he wants iPhone 5s sizes, which is actually almost 2cm bigger20:24
Azelphurfor the Moto G 3rd gen, I mean20:24
Azelphur123.8 x 58.6 x 7.6 mm vs 142.1 x 72.4 x 11.6 mm20:25
popeywhat's that tool called which is a bag of beans you microwave then rest on a phone screen to make the glue melt?20:42
popey(I assume it's beans)20:42
daftykinsifixit.com sells a screen heater job20:43
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popeyyeah, tried to find it then my gpu crashed20:44
popeybah, they call it "iopener"20:45
popeyuseless20:45
daftykins:D20:46
daftykinswant something local is it?20:46
popeyblimey, perhaps not, they sell it on amazon20:46
popeyhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/iFixit-iOpener-Apple-glued-devices/dp/B00KJ1XHLE20:46
daftykins\o/20:48
mapps*watching 1st dates, that show's so funny:D20:50
mappsid never heard of this, what apple devices is it for?20:50
daftykinssound like the fan bearings have gone? :D https://www.dropbox.com/s/4cbrf6b0ru00qo4/VID_20150913_214839.mp4?dl=020:51
daftykinswarning: check volume20:51
mappsis recruitment consultant really that good of a job, well paid etc? always seem to be flashy show off types20:52
mappsalthouh means nothing of course20:52
daftykinsfan motor i mean really20:53
popeythey are in sales, so yeah :)20:53
popeyselling people20:53
mappsso it is paid well?20:53
popeya friend of mine is one, we often take the mickey that he sits at work all day playing snap20:53
popeymatching jobs with candidates20:54
popeyIt can be, if you're good20:54
mappswhen i say well i mean 60k+20:54
popeywell, often they are on a low basic20:54
popeywith commission for placement20:54
popeyeither a monthly income for contractors they place, or a lump sum after a permie has been in place for N months20:54
mappsah20:54
mappsbut if it wasnt going well, not many jobs or candidates or whatever then the basic wage could suck?20:55
popeyI've had them call me up after 6 months (once they got their payment for placing me) and ask if I was happy (and did I want to move) so they could get another lump out of me20:55
popeythere's always candidates, and always roles20:55
popeyit's whether the role will accept an agent and whether you can find and convince one to go for the role20:55
mappsah20:55
popeyand whether they are any good once they get to interview20:55
popeymany agents will fire tons of CVs over for a role, in the hope one sticks20:56
mappsi'd do that :) but i guess that could irritate employers20:56
popeyyes20:56
popeywhich is why you often see adverts which say "No recruiters" on the spec20:56
popeybecause they have had bad experience of exactly that20:56
mappsahh yea20:57
mappsI'd be annoyed if i was getting loads of CVs which clearly arent up to it:)20:57
popeythinking of a change of career? :)20:57
mappsnah20:58
mappstoo much freedom, i waste copious amounts of time at work20:58
mappsa normal office job would be a chore, i imagine most non work sites being blocked20:58
mappsplus when i have standby i.e. nothing to do i just watch films or tv on my tablet :) if there's nothing to do, not my problem!20:59
czajkowskiaww under the dome is finished :(21:00
mappshmm21:00
mappsi went off that a bit tbh21:00
mappsbig match soon, fed vs djoko, delayed due to rain;/21:01
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daftykinsah midnight and it feels late, this must be what normality feels like23:03

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