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bluesabreknome: that's an icon, no reason it should be marked as translatable02:24
bluesabrewill fix that02:24
max12345hello, I was wondering just how it's decided what software is on distros by default.08:12
flocculantmax12345: this is where *we* start https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/StrategyDocument#Seeds_.26_Composition08:16
max12345flocculant: ok that's about what I was looking for. Thank you! Can I petition you somewhere to overthink having firefox as default? Because I'd prefer one of the forks after what they've been doing over the last years.08:20
flocculantwell, there is a way to do that - try and find the necessary 08:21
flocculantbecause it's not as simple as you saying 'hey can we do this instead?' ;)08:21
flocculanthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Utopic/Inxi08:23
flocculanthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/W/DefaultMediaPlayer08:23
flocculantare two specs - you'd need to do something similar for what you want08:23
flocculantbut - the earliest would be for the X cycle 08:24
flocculanthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/StrategyDocument covers the basic08:25
max12345ok... I'll look into it. Thanks again!08:26
Unit193max12345: Has to be in the repos, and none are.08:33
max12345Unit193: hm, I can see how that's a problem.08:36
knomebluesabre, i knew that, i was just kind of letting you know... :P09:55
jjfrv8flocculant, fyi, I installed wily on my main desktop so I can do some realistic app testing now.12:34
jjfrv8Restoring my panel after the install with xfpanel-switch worked like a charm :)12:34
jjfrv8I did have a heck of a time with the install, though. Monitors would go blank and machine would lock up either during install or shortly after reboot.12:34
jjfrv8It looks like the nouveau drivers were causing my gpu to overheat. Once I managed to get the nvidia driver installed, temp came down and all was well.12:34
jjfrv8Does that sound possible?12:34
flocculantmmm 12:36
flocculantI did have some oddities at cycle start with gpu - mine was the other way around though - been using nouveau :)12:37
flocculantNot got more than 1 monitor to check that simply here atm12:37
flocculantand yes - the panel switch tool is \o/ 12:38
jjfrv8yup12:38
flocculantexcecpting issue noted previously - but that's like complaining that the car's not fast enough when you've previously used a horse :D12:39
jjfrv8hehe12:39
flocculantjjfrv8: did you install today? 12:39
flocculantis the image fixed - not checked yet ... 12:40
flocculantwill do that now 12:40
jjfrv8sorry, no. I started with yesterday's. That bombed. Tried the 11th, started having the lockups. Went back to beta1 before figuring out driver issue.12:41
flocculant:(12:41
flocculantblimey - 40% difference in images between yesterday and now 12:42
flocculantand it's the weekend so obviously not fixed - I'm an idjit12:44
bluesabrejjfrv8, flocculant: so the nvidia drivers are working for you guys?13:28
bluesabreif I try to use any of the nvidia drivers in wily, I can't get anything to display and have to drop to T1 to uninstall13:30
jjfrv8bluesabre, aye, nvidia driver working here. I did find that the latest version has a different settings gui, with far fewer options.13:33
jjfrv8so I downgraded to an older version.13:33
bluesabrefun13:33
bluesabreI'll need to try to report my issue then13:34
jjfrv8bbl13:37
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flocculantbluesabre: no - using nouveau 14:07
flocculantbluesabre: had some bizarreness a while back - random white screen while on desktop 14:08
* bluesabre wants to merge xdg-utils, but there's so many ubuntu changes15:21
bluesabrelooks like most fixes have been upstreamed, so that's good at least15:26
knome:)16:01
flocculantbluesabre: so what's the crack with parole - should it really be in 2 ppa's at different versions still? 16:26
bluesabreflocculant: haven't had much of a chance to look yet, will try to get to that today16:57
flocculantbluesabre: yep - just wondering mostly - it tried to update today :)17:03
bluesabrejust uploaded a new xdg-utils to -staging... will take a bit to build but contains lots of fixes17:03
bluesabrehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/12398952/17:05
flocculantknome: what's up with the tracker front page?17:08
flocculantbluesabre: nice :)17:08
bluesabremicahg: do you think there is anything I should add for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-utils/+bug/1495273 before subscribing the release team?18:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1495273 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Please merge xdg-utils 1.1.0~rc3+git20150907-1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New]18:06
flocculantbluesabre: this nvidia issue you've got - does the machine use that optimus? 18:22
knomeflocculant, i'm doing the messin' around18:52
knomeflocculant, i'll land something cool tonight there, so just you wait ;)18:53
bluesabreflocculant: yeah, I've got both nvidia and intel19:01
flocculantbluesabre: then I've seen people with issues with that 19:15
flocculanthttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=019:18
flocculantknome: you need to set up a temp background so people don't think it's broken http://bit.ly/1NqwufZ19:31
knomehahah19:31
flocculant:)19:31
knomeokay, this newly prepared stuff should be ready to go19:32
flocculant... 19:32
knometo the tracker, that is19:32
flocculantI'll be sure to look tomorrow when I'm awake :)19:55
knomeyep19:55
knomedo that19:55
knomei hit an unexpected wall, so figuring a way around that19:56
knomebut after that it's all out19:56
bluesabrereleasing things is hard... with the bad xfce certs the release tool dies half-way through19:58
knomenie20:01
knomenice too20:01
bluesabremicahg: went ahead and subscribed the release team to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-utils/+bug/149527320:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1495273 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Please merge xdg-utils 1.1.0~rc3+git20150907-1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed]20:04
knomehttp://tracker.xubuntu.org/#tab-details20:06
bluesabreyou mean the content that no longer seems to exist?20:08
knomehuh?20:08
knomedo a hard refresh...20:08
bluesabrehttp://i.imgur.com/fSRyol7.png20:09
knomelooks like you don't have js enabled20:09
bluesabresyntax errror20:09
knome?:P20:09
bluesabrefunction open_tab( first_load = false ) {20:10
astraljavaWorks For Me™20:10
knomeweird, because everything looks ok to me20:10
bluesabrechrome no likey20:10
knomei wonder why...20:10
astraljava...on Chrome, too.20:10
knomehahah20:10
bluesabrehttp://i.imgur.com/J7C780J.png20:10
knomebluesabre, you WILL want to double check the url too20:10
knomeyou don't want #details, you want #tab-details20:10
knomebluesabre, i haven't even touched that part...20:11
knomebluesabre, it was always there20:11
bluesabrehttp://i.imgur.com/Ombp5df.png20:12
* knome double-checks with chrome20:12
knomeok ok, chromium20:12
knomeyeah, i see that now as well20:13
knomebut it's weird20:13
knomebluesabre, retry20:14
bluesabreyay20:14
knomebluesabre, comments plz?20:16
bluesabreknome: works20:16
knomewell, i was thinking about comments about the new functionality20:17
bluesabrepretty cool20:17
bluesabreI like it20:17
knomethe filters and sort - which you can enable by clicking the column headers20:17
knomenicks and spec names also link to "show this only"20:17
knome(while keeping other existing filters and sort)20:18
bluesabrevery cool20:18
knomewell, at least should20:18
knomeand text search is isntant20:18
knomeinstant too20:18
bluesabremhm20:18
bluesabregood stuff here20:18
knomeso, now you see why i borked the overview tab20:18
bluesabre:D20:19
knomethat said, i do need to work on it a bit20:19
knomeconsidering dumping the burndown there20:20
knomeoh, one thing that doesn't work for now (intentionally) is +teams20:20
bluesabreits a very good "get your crap done" page, it's helped me quite a bit this cycle20:20
knome;)20:20
Unit193Irssi has a crontab script, I can just 'bluesabre: Get yer crap done.'! :-----D20:21
knome..20:22
bluesabre... too20:22
bluesabre:D20:22
knomeUnit193, i'm already sending daily notifications to his email20:22
knomepleia2, reminder: your turn to schedule next meeting :)21:54
knomeslickymaster, wasn't sure you noticed, but i reworded your work item re: the slideshow translations to "Start the discussion..." since i think the change should be done W+1 (as we discussed), but left the item still open for you to close whenever you feel appropriate21:57
knomeUnit193, krytarik: any reason your core items are still open?21:57
knomedkessel, what's the status with jenkins now?21:58
knomelderan, you had any time to think about the qa tracker xml-rpc methods?21:59
knomelderan, did you look at the pad that flocculant set up?21:59
knomemicahg, any news about shimmer-themes and our packageset?21:59
knome</pings>21:59
bluesabreso pingy!22:01
knomevery22:01
knomebluesabre, do you have any idea about bug 133293122:02
ubottubug 1332931 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) ""Display configure screen settings and layout" window opens automatically every few seconds" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133293122:02
bluesabreknome: its probably a kernel bug22:02
knomeaha22:02
Unit193Or dbus, yeah, that, dbus.22:03
bluesabrebasically their laptop keeps mashing the switch-monitor key22:03
Unit193logind.22:03
knomeUnit193.22:03
knomed.22:03
bluesabre /etc/unit193.d/01-xubuntu22:03
Unit193bluesabre: /usr/lib/unit193, /usr/bin/unit193-browser or /etc/ssl/certs/unit193.pem count?22:07
bluesabre:D22:07
bluesabreis unit103-browser just a rebranded firefox with a monster truck?22:08
bluesabreer unit193-browser22:08
knome:P22:08
Unit193Nope.22:08
bluesabredarn22:08
knomebluesabre, did you mean "barn" ?22:08
bluesabreactually yarn, thanks for catching the typo22:09
knome:P22:09
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