| ianorlyn | teward: I think the build got dropped because no one from QA team was testing it | 00:10 |
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| * tsimonq2 volunteers as tribute | 00:30 | |
| tsimonq2 | Wait a couple months when I can afford a raspberry pi(on my list of things to do for a long time) and I will do it | 00:32 |
| CooloutAC | hey all, ureadahead process floods the log with ignoring relative path messages | 00:49 |
| CooloutAC | should I just disable it? | 00:49 |
| CooloutAC | ubuntu 15.04 uses systemd right? | 00:49 |
| ianorlyn | CooloutAC: yes | 00:49 |
| CooloutAC | so wondering if I even need ureadahead? | 00:50 |
| ianorlyn | CooloutAC: if you have ssd probably not | 00:50 |
| ianorlyn | also which log | 00:50 |
| CooloutAC | I don't have ssd | 00:50 |
| CooloutAC | but whats up with all the ignoring relative path messages does tha tmean something not working right with ureadahead? | 00:51 |
| ianorlyn | ah then yes then you might need it and that is why you asked for loading | 00:51 |
| CooloutAC | doesn't seem to be working right | 00:51 |
| CooloutAC | anyway i disabled it, don't even notice a diff in boot times | 00:51 |
| ianorlyn | the constant logging spamming might actaully hurt | 00:52 |
| CooloutAC | what do you mean? | 00:52 |
| CooloutAC | so you are saying that is just informational, not an error? | 00:52 |
| CooloutAC | i disabled ureadahead and can't tell if its taking longer to boot or not, don't think any diff | 00:53 |
| CooloutAC | ianorlyn: basially my whole syslog is ignored relative path | 00:53 |
| CooloutAC | was annoying, thought ureadhead had a problem, disabled it I can't notice any diff | 00:53 |
| ianorlyn | CooloutAC: I am saying that writing to the log ureadhead failed might hurt io perfromance with a spinning disk to flush the cache and make io perfomrance worth | 00:54 |
| ianorlyn | this log spam might be a bug | 00:54 |
| ianorlyn | !bug | 00:54 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 00:54 |
| CooloutAC | oh you are saying the writing to the log might slow boot time...to be honest i can't tell any diff with ureadahead on or off | 00:54 |
| ianorlyn | CooloutAC: not boot time but while running | 00:55 |
| CooloutAC | i didn't think it was even needed anymore with system d | 00:55 |
| CooloutAC | what do you mean while running? | 00:55 |
| CooloutAC | i thought ureadahead was just for boot? its for other things too? | 00:55 |
| CooloutAC | I thought thats what prefetch was for or w/e its called | 00:55 |
| CooloutAC | I'll ahve to do more research on it | 00:55 |
| ianorlyn | no I was saying logspam might hurt performance | 00:55 |
| CooloutAC | lol | 00:56 |
| CooloutAC | nah not noticeable, plus ureadhead messages are only on boot | 00:56 |
| CooloutAC | i disabled it though, i think its garbage program and not even needed with systemd | 00:56 |
| CooloutAC | ianorlyn: this is my exact issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ureadahead/+bug/1429098/comments/17 | 00:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1429098 in ureadahead (Ubuntu) "systemd[1]: ureadahead.service fails on vanilla kernels, needs Ubuntu kernel patch" [Medium,Triaged] | 00:59 |
| CooloutAC | the post by dino99 | 01:00 |
| CooloutAC | I will add my name to the list I guess and repost his message | 01:02 |
| ianorlyn | CooloutAC: IF you have a launchapd account you can mark as affecting you too | 01:02 |
| CooloutAC | ok | 01:02 |
| ianorlyn | don't repost the message that ends up spamming people | 01:02 |
| CooloutAC | what? | 01:02 |
| CooloutAC | I'll copy and paste it then I don't know what you mean | 01:03 |
| ianorlyn | copy and pasting messages in comments sends emial to bug squad | 01:03 |
| CooloutAC | well good then | 01:03 |
| CooloutAC | so what should I do "hello, my manme is cooloutac i have the same exact problem as dino99 in post #17" is that better? | 01:04 |
| CooloutAC | lol | 01:04 |
| CooloutAC | I'll do that then | 01:04 |
| CooloutAC | ok I made my comment | 01:06 |
| CooloutAC | he wrote that on 4-20 hehe | 01:08 |
| CooloutAC | i send him a message on irc too | 01:08 |
| CooloutAC | ianorlyn: i had to disable it on my trisquel system also | 01:09 |
| CooloutAC | ureadahead never works for me to be honest lol | 01:09 |
| CooloutAC | I'm starting to think its a myth | 01:09 |
| ianorlyn | ah I don't think trisquel mini on a vm | 01:10 |
| CooloutAC | ianorlyn: don't think what? | 01:15 |
| ianorlyn | works on my hardware | 01:20 |
| ianorlyn | I don't think the wifi would work on my tablet and could not get it to boot on my hardware | 01:21 |
| ianorlyn | I may have just had a keyboard go down | 01:21 |
| CooloutAC | ianorlyn: ya thats why I'm using lubuntu lol | 01:24 |
| CooloutAC | no free driver for my intel wirless pro card | 01:24 |
| ianorlyn | CooloutAC: I think that needs the firmware but is still freeer than the broadcom in mine | 01:24 |
| CooloutAC | I dont' think there is any free driver for intel wirless cards | 01:32 |
| CooloutAC | or so I was told, definitely didn't work on mine | 01:33 |
| CooloutAC | wireless cards just suck, they don't live by the same rules | 01:51 |
| CooloutAC | i always say the digital realm needs the same laws as the physical realm, but jesus, wireless is even less restricted and wild | 01:51 |
| CooloutAC | in the wireless world they do w/e they want. | 01:52 |
| ianorlyn | yeah I think a pci ethernet adapter I got as a hand me down over ten years ago is more reliable that wifi still today | 02:05 |
| ianorlyn | works great with the old tulip module | 02:06 |
| CooloutAC | ianorlyn: nice | 03:04 |
| TheBootroo|work | on ubuntu 14.04 after recent PPA update, lxqt-panel won't start anymore | 08:05 |
| TheBootroo|work | saying "lxqt-panel: symbol lookup error: lxqt-panel: undefined symbol: _ZTIN4LxQt12ConfigDialogE" | 08:05 |
| TheBootroo|work | unfortunately, more recent packages are only for 15.0x | 08:06 |
| TheBootroo|work | any idea to get my panel back ? | 08:06 |
| TheBootroo|work | desktop without panel is kinda useless | 08:06 |
| lifelessi | i have got a problem to install steam on lubuntu 15.04 . is this the right place to ask for help? | 09:05 |
| leszek | yes | 09:05 |
| lifelessi | my terminal output is in german... is this a problem? | 09:10 |
| leszek | LC_ALL=C command and you should get an english output. Though I also understand german :) | 09:10 |
| leszek | lifelessi: but please use a paste service | 09:11 |
| leszek | like pastebin.com | 09:11 |
| lifelessi | http://hastebin.com/ovujuzixen.vhdl | 09:14 |
| leszek | lifelessi: which lubuntu version ? Do you have ppas enabled for some backported stuff ? | 09:16 |
| lifelessi | 15.04 my output of apt-get is http://hastebin.com/bovehojoho | 09:19 |
| leszek | are the packages up 2 date ? Did you run apt-get upgrade already ? | 09:20 |
| leszek | Is this working ? | 09:20 |
| hateball | lifelessi: no need to use packages from valve, you can use distro repos for steam now | 09:21 |
| hateball | it only fetches a little launcher script anyhow, the steam client goes in ~/ | 09:21 |
| hateball | the LC_ALL=C is useful to remember if you ever want to play games made with Unity | 09:22 |
| lifelessi | apt-get upgrade worked without problems... used the steam deb cause i was unable to find it in lubuntu store | 09:22 |
| hateball | you need to have multiverse enabled for it to show up | 09:23 |
| hateball | lifelessi: oh so you've manually installed the deb from valve? and the client doesnt start? or what is the issue | 09:24 |
| leszek | hateball: see the pastebin links | 09:25 |
| leszek | some packages seem to be installed that conflict with the ones in the repo | 09:25 |
| leszek | lifelessi: can you please execute: LC_ALL=C apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 -o "Debug::pkgProblemResolver=1" and paste its output on a pastebin | 09:26 |
| lifelessi | already tryed to dpkg --add-architecture i386 .... if i start steam it wants to install a libary it cant so after seam update it crash cause the libGL.so.1 is missing | 09:27 |
| lifelessi | mom | 09:27 |
| leszek | lifelessi: architecture i386 is added already as otherwise it would not show you that it tires to install those i386 packages. So thats ok | 09:27 |
| lifelessi | looks like it take some time XD | 09:28 |
| leszek | it produces a very detailed output and should show where the conflict is actually | 09:29 |
| lifelessi | to much to copy and an "> log" doesnt write the debug info in the file :/ | 09:32 |
| leszek | lifelessi: either you raise the scrollback lines in lxterminals settings or you use "command" 2>&1 > log as I think it might use the error output and not the normal output so 2>&1 pipes the error output to the normal output so that > should get it aswell | 09:34 |
| lifelessi | LC_ALL=C apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 -o "Debug::pkgProblemResolver=1" 2>%1 > log doesnt work :/ and i think my clipboard is to small XD | 09:47 |
| leszek | oO | 09:49 |
| leszek | not %1 but &1 | 09:49 |
| lifelessi | got it with "2>" http://hastebin.com/japohibale | 09:56 |
| leszek | lifelessi: irgendwie ist dein libudev kaputt | 09:57 |
| leszek | libudev1 is different in i386 and amd64 versions | 09:58 |
| lifelessi | ok....??? | 09:58 |
| lifelessi | how can i repair it? | 09:58 |
| leszek | can you show me apt-cache policy libudev1:i386 and apt-cache policy libudev1:amd64 | 09:58 |
| lifelessi | http://hastebin.com/meterawulo | 10:00 |
| leszek | lifelessi: there is the problem | 10:04 |
| leszek | downgrade the amd64 version with sudo apt-get install libudev1:amd64=219-7ubuntu3 | 10:04 |
| leszek | and then try installing the libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 package again | 10:05 |
| lifelessi | get error http://hastebin.com/zowogugola | 10:06 |
| leszek | hmm... whats friendly-recovery ? Can you remove it | 10:07 |
| lifelessi | purged it but i think im near to kill my system http://hastebin.com/evipirusur | 10:10 |
| lifelessi | XD | 10:11 |
| leszek | yeah thats strange | 10:11 |
| leszek | somehow you have half mixed newer packages and half mixed older ones | 10:12 |
| lifelessi | sounds like i have to do a fresh install :,( | 10:13 |
| leszek | lifelessi: the question is how did it come so far | 10:14 |
| leszek | did you have any repos activated before and installed from them ? | 10:14 |
| lifelessi | jdownloader and dropbox | 10:15 |
| leszek | I think you might also had vivid-security activated which provides that newer libudev though it seems like the i386 was not installed from there | 10:16 |
| leszek | make sure to have vivid-security activated in synaptic | 10:16 |
| leszek | and refresh the package list and try again | 10:17 |
| leszek | installing the libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 | 10:17 |
| lifelessi | my sources.list http://hastebin.com/cuyijomuke there is something with vivid-security | 10:19 |
| lifelessi | why doesnt it upgrade the libudev1:i386=219-7ubuntu3 to libudev1:i386=219-7ubuntu6 ??? | 10:28 |
| leszek | I am not sure | 10:32 |
| lifelessi | libudev1:i386=219-7ubuntu6 is in main for 15.04.... and if i download the deb and install it? | 10:33 |
| leszek | lifelessi: yes you can do this | 10:43 |
| lifelessi | ok that worked^^ why ever he cant find libudev1:i386=219-7ubuntu6 over update... but now the lib i need for steam is installing XD | 10:51 |
| lifelessi | and if my pc survive the next reboot im happy... | 10:51 |
| leszek | :) | 10:57 |
| hateball | famous last words it would appear | 12:09 |
| Drunkwizard | Hello, Is there a way to hide menubar in leafpad? | 13:09 |
| rytomi | Hello, I am trying to install Lubuntu for the first time and need some help. | 22:55 |
| rytomi | I have used mostly Fedora up to this point, but this system only has a graphics driver for Lubuntu and I've heard great things. | 22:57 |
| rytomi | Problem is I don't know how to get the driver running prior to install, the Try and Install options both give a blank screen. | 22:57 |
| rytomi | Can anyone help? | 22:57 |
| vikingredwolf | sorry, are you able to install in graphical mode? | 22:59 |
| vikingredwolf | and what's your graphics card? | 23:00 |
| vikingredwolf | oh, ok :) | 23:04 |
| rytomi | Is anyone here? | 23:07 |
| teward | rytomi: yes we're here but you timed out | 23:08 |
| teward | [2015-09-14 18:59:56] <vikingredwolf> sorry, are you able to install in graphical mode? | 23:08 |
| teward | [2015-09-14 19:00:06] <vikingredwolf> and what's your graphics card? | 23:08 |
| rytomi | The system uses a Via VX900 chipset, Chrome9 graphics card. When it loads GUI I just get blank screen, but can still access other VTs | 23:09 |
| vikingredwolf | oh back! :D | 23:09 |
| rytomi | Via provides a GFX driver for Lubuntu 15.04 | 23:09 |
| rytomi | But I guess I need to get it installed somehow first. | 23:10 |
| rytomi | Sorry, didn't realize I timed out. | 23:10 |
| vikingredwolf | there's an entry about that precisely: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2263938 | 23:11 |
| rytomi | Thanks for the link, I'll read through that. | 23:12 |
| vikingredwolf | but not sure if helpful | 23:12 |
| CooloutAC | rytomi: did you do a disk check on the usb? | 23:17 |
| CooloutAC | rytomi: maybe this helps https://journalxtra.com/linux/ubuntu-fixing-the-blank-screen-on-installation-bug/ | 23:20 |
| rytomi | Did the check it has no issues. | 23:27 |
| rytomi | The thread doesn't really help me because I don't have it installed yet. | 23:28 |
| CooloutAC | its not for having it installed | 23:29 |
| CooloutAC | its with the live usb | 23:29 |
| CooloutAC | rytomi: https://journalxtra.com/linux/ubuntu-fixing-the-blank-screen-on-installation-bug/ | 23:30 |
| rytomi | Thanks, reading that now. | 23:32 |
| cxd13 | is there a way to get lubuntu if i only have a 512 mb flash drive and no CD rom? | 23:36 |
| cxd13 | the iso is almost 700mb | 23:36 |
| vikingredwolf | the only choice is using a Ubuntu minimal installer and install then lubuntu-core | 23:36 |
| vikingredwolf | cxd13, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 23:46 |
| ianorlyn | vikingredwolf: I am pretty sure if you have a hard drive you could install lubuntu-desktop | 23:46 |
| Unit193 | I'd install the task over the metapackage. | 23:47 |
| vikingredwolf | right, but I guess he should have one too. he said he hasn't a cd reader. me neither. | 23:47 |
| cxd13 | vikingredwolf: cool thank you. | 23:48 |
| cxd13 | ianorlyn: i'm doing this from windows | 23:49 |
| vikingredwolf | the alternate install won't help either, it's 690M sized | 23:49 |
| ianorlyn | ah I don't expirence making usb from windows | 23:50 |
| cxd13 | i asked in windows and they said just open the iso, and drag all the contents to the usb stick | 23:50 |
| vikingredwolf | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Creating_a_bootable_Ubuntu_USB_flash_drive_from_Windows | 23:50 |
| cxd13 | thanks | 23:51 |
| vikingredwolf | you're welcome | 23:51 |
| CooloutAC | cxd13: in windows i use a program called rawrite32.exe | 23:52 |
| cxd13 | so they let you install actual lubuntu from their iso and not just ubuntu + generic lxde | 23:52 |
| CooloutAC | cxd13: https://www.netbsd.org/~martin/rawrite32/ | 23:52 |
| CooloutAC | use that to burn the iso | 23:53 |
| cxd13 | CooloutAC: ok thanks will check it out | 23:53 |
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