[00:10] <ianorlyn> teward: I think the build got dropped because no one from QA team was testing it
[00:30]  * tsimonq2 volunteers as tribute
[00:32] <tsimonq2> Wait a couple months when I can afford a raspberry pi(on my list of things to do for a long time) and I will do it
[00:49] <CooloutAC> hey all,  ureadahead process floods the log with ignoring relative path messages
[00:49] <CooloutAC> should I just disable it?
[00:49] <CooloutAC> ubuntu 15.04 uses systemd right?
[00:49] <ianorlyn> CooloutAC: yes
[00:50] <CooloutAC> so wondering if I even need ureadahead?
[00:50] <ianorlyn> CooloutAC: if you have ssd probably not
[00:50] <ianorlyn> also which log
[00:50] <CooloutAC> I don't have ssd
[00:51] <CooloutAC> but whats up with all the ignoring relative path messages does tha tmean something not working right with ureadahead?
[00:51] <ianorlyn> ah then yes then you might need it and that is why you asked for loading
[00:51] <CooloutAC> doesn't seem to be working right
[00:51] <CooloutAC> anyway i disabled it,  don't even notice a diff in boot times
[00:52] <ianorlyn> the constant logging spamming might actaully hurt
[00:52] <CooloutAC> what do you mean?
[00:52] <CooloutAC> so you are saying that is just informational, not an error?
[00:53] <CooloutAC> i disabled ureadahead and can't tell if its taking longer to boot or not,  don't think any diff
[00:53] <CooloutAC> ianorlyn: basially my whole syslog is ignored relative path
[00:53] <CooloutAC> was annoying, thought ureadhead had a problem,  disabled it I can't notice any diff
[00:54] <ianorlyn> CooloutAC: I am saying that writing to the log ureadhead failed might hurt io perfromance with a spinning disk to flush the cache and make io perfomrance worth
[00:54] <ianorlyn> this log spam might be a bug
[00:54] <ianorlyn> !bug
[00:54] <ubottu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.
[00:54] <CooloutAC> oh you are saying the writing to the log might slow boot time...to be honest i can't tell any diff with ureadahead on or off
[00:55] <ianorlyn> CooloutAC: not boot time but while running
[00:55] <CooloutAC> i didn't think it was even needed anymore with system d
[00:55] <CooloutAC> what do you mean while running?
[00:55] <CooloutAC> i thought ureadahead was just for boot?  its for other things too?
[00:55] <CooloutAC> I thought thats what prefetch was for or w/e its called
[00:55] <CooloutAC> I'll ahve to do more research on it
[00:55] <ianorlyn> no I was saying logspam might hurt performance
[00:56] <CooloutAC> lol
[00:56] <CooloutAC> nah not noticeable,  plus ureadhead messages are only on boot
[00:56] <CooloutAC> i disabled it though,  i think its garbage program and not even needed with systemd
[00:59] <CooloutAC> ianorlyn: this is my exact issue  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ureadahead/+bug/1429098/comments/17
[00:59] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1429098 in ureadahead (Ubuntu) "systemd[1]: ureadahead.service fails on vanilla kernels, needs Ubuntu kernel patch" [Medium,Triaged]
[01:00] <CooloutAC> the post by dino99
[01:02] <CooloutAC> I will add my name to the list I guess and repost his message
[01:02] <ianorlyn> CooloutAC: IF you have a launchapd account you can mark as affecting you too
[01:02] <CooloutAC> ok
[01:02] <ianorlyn> don't repost the message that ends up spamming people
[01:02] <CooloutAC> what?
[01:03] <CooloutAC> I'll copy and paste it then I don't know what you mean
[01:03] <ianorlyn> copy and pasting messages in comments sends emial to bug squad
[01:03] <CooloutAC> well good then
[01:04] <CooloutAC> so what should I do  "hello,  my manme is cooloutac i have the same exact problem as dino99 in post #17"   is that better?
[01:04] <CooloutAC> lol
[01:04] <CooloutAC> I'll do that then
[01:06] <CooloutAC> ok I made my comment
[01:08] <CooloutAC> he wrote that on 4-20 hehe
[01:08] <CooloutAC> i send him a message on irc too
[01:09] <CooloutAC> ianorlyn: i had to disable it on my trisquel system also
[01:09] <CooloutAC> ureadahead never works for me to be honest lol
[01:09] <CooloutAC> I'm starting to think its a myth
[01:10] <ianorlyn> ah I don't think trisquel mini on a vm
[01:15] <CooloutAC> ianorlyn: don't think what?
[01:20] <ianorlyn> works on my hardware
[01:21] <ianorlyn> I don't think the wifi would work on my tablet and could not get it to boot on my hardware
[01:21] <ianorlyn> I may have just had a keyboard go down
[01:24] <CooloutAC> ianorlyn: ya thats why I'm using lubuntu lol
[01:24] <CooloutAC> no free driver for my intel wirless pro card
[01:24] <ianorlyn> CooloutAC: I think that needs the firmware but is still freeer than the broadcom in mine
[01:32] <CooloutAC> I dont' think there is any free driver for intel wirless cards
[01:33] <CooloutAC> or so I was told, definitely didn't work on mine
[01:51] <CooloutAC> wireless cards just suck,  they don't live by the same rules
[01:51] <CooloutAC> i always say the digital realm needs the same laws as the physical realm,  but jesus,  wireless is even less restricted and wild
[01:52] <CooloutAC> in the wireless world they do w/e they want.
[02:05] <ianorlyn> yeah I think a pci ethernet adapter I got as a hand me down over ten years ago is more reliable that wifi still today
[02:06] <ianorlyn> works great with the old tulip module
[03:04] <CooloutAC> ianorlyn: nice
[08:05] <TheBootroo|work> on ubuntu 14.04 after recent PPA update, lxqt-panel won't start anymore
[08:05] <TheBootroo|work> saying "lxqt-panel: symbol lookup error: lxqt-panel: undefined symbol: _ZTIN4LxQt12ConfigDialogE"
[08:06] <TheBootroo|work> unfortunately, more recent packages are only for 15.0x
[08:06] <TheBootroo|work> any idea to get my panel back ?
[08:06] <TheBootroo|work> desktop without panel is kinda useless
[09:05] <lifelessi> i have got a problem to install steam on lubuntu 15.04 . is this the right place to ask for help?
[09:05] <leszek> yes
[09:10] <lifelessi> my terminal output is in german... is this a problem?
[09:10] <leszek> LC_ALL=C command and you should get an english output. Though I also understand german :)
[09:11] <leszek> lifelessi: but please use a paste service
[09:11] <leszek> like pastebin.com
[09:14] <lifelessi>  http://hastebin.com/ovujuzixen.vhdl
[09:16] <leszek> lifelessi: which lubuntu version ? Do you have ppas enabled for some backported stuff ?
[09:19] <lifelessi> 15.04 my output of apt-get is http://hastebin.com/bovehojoho
[09:20] <leszek> are the packages up 2 date ? Did you run apt-get upgrade already ?
[09:20] <leszek> Is this working ?
[09:21] <hateball> lifelessi: no need to use packages from valve, you can use distro repos for steam now
[09:21] <hateball> it only fetches a little launcher script anyhow, the steam client goes in ~/
[09:22] <hateball> the LC_ALL=C is useful to remember if you ever want to play games made with Unity
[09:22] <lifelessi> apt-get upgrade worked without problems... used the steam deb cause i was unable to find it in lubuntu store
[09:23] <hateball> you need to have multiverse enabled for it to show up
[09:24] <hateball> lifelessi: oh so you've manually installed the deb from valve? and the client doesnt start? or what is the issue
[09:25] <leszek> hateball: see the pastebin links
[09:25] <leszek> some packages seem to be installed that conflict with the ones in the repo
[09:26] <leszek> lifelessi: can you please execute: LC_ALL=C apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 -o "Debug::pkgProblemResolver=1" and paste its output on a pastebin
[09:27] <lifelessi> already tryed to dpkg --add-architecture i386 .... if i start steam it wants to install a libary it cant so after seam update it crash cause the libGL.so.1 is missing
[09:27] <lifelessi> mom
[09:27] <leszek> lifelessi: architecture i386 is added already as otherwise it would not show you that it tires to install those i386 packages. So thats ok
[09:28] <lifelessi> looks like it take some time XD
[09:29] <leszek> it produces a very detailed output and should show where the conflict is actually
[09:32] <lifelessi> to much to copy and an "> log" doesnt write the debug info in the file :/
[09:34] <leszek> lifelessi: either you raise the scrollback lines in lxterminals settings or you use "command" 2>&1 > log as I think it might use the error output and not the normal output so 2>&1 pipes the error output to the normal output so that > should get it aswell
[09:47] <lifelessi> LC_ALL=C apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 -o "Debug::pkgProblemResolver=1" 2>%1 > log       doesnt work :/ and i think my clipboard is to small XD
[09:49] <leszek> oO
[09:49] <leszek> not %1 but &1
[09:56] <lifelessi> got it with "2>"   http://hastebin.com/japohibale
[09:57] <leszek> lifelessi: irgendwie ist dein libudev kaputt
[09:58] <leszek> libudev1 is different in i386 and amd64 versions
[09:58] <lifelessi> ok....???
[09:58] <lifelessi> how can i repair it?
[09:58] <leszek> can you show me apt-cache policy libudev1:i386 and apt-cache policy libudev1:amd64
[10:00] <lifelessi> http://hastebin.com/meterawulo
[10:04] <leszek> lifelessi: there is the problem
[10:04] <leszek> downgrade the amd64 version with sudo apt-get install libudev1:amd64=219-7ubuntu3
[10:05] <leszek> and then try installing the libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 package again
[10:06] <lifelessi> get error http://hastebin.com/zowogugola
[10:07] <leszek> hmm... whats friendly-recovery ? Can you remove it
[10:10] <lifelessi> purged it but i think im near to kill my system http://hastebin.com/evipirusur
[10:11] <lifelessi> XD
[10:11] <leszek> yeah thats strange
[10:12] <leszek> somehow you have half mixed newer packages and half mixed older ones
[10:13] <lifelessi> sounds like i have to do a fresh install :,(
[10:14] <leszek> lifelessi: the question is how did it come so far
[10:14] <leszek> did you have any repos activated before and installed from them ?
[10:15] <lifelessi> jdownloader and dropbox
[10:16] <leszek> I think you might also had vivid-security activated which provides that newer libudev though it seems like the i386 was not installed from there
[10:16] <leszek> make sure to have vivid-security activated in synaptic
[10:17] <leszek> and refresh the package list and try again
[10:17] <leszek> installing the libgl1-mesa-glx:i386
[10:19] <lifelessi> my sources.list http://hastebin.com/cuyijomuke there is something with vivid-security
[10:28] <lifelessi> why doesnt it upgrade the libudev1:i386=219-7ubuntu3 to libudev1:i386=219-7ubuntu6 ???
[10:32] <leszek> I am not sure
[10:33] <lifelessi> libudev1:i386=219-7ubuntu6 is in main for 15.04.... and if i download the deb and install it?
[10:43] <leszek> lifelessi: yes you can do this
[10:51] <lifelessi> ok that worked^^ why ever he cant find libudev1:i386=219-7ubuntu6 over update... but now the lib i need for steam is installing XD
[10:51] <lifelessi> and if my pc survive the next reboot im happy...
[10:57] <leszek> :)
[12:09] <hateball> famous last words it would appear
[13:09] <Drunkwizard> Hello, Is there a way to hide menubar in leafpad?
[22:55] <rytomi> Hello, I am trying to install Lubuntu for the first time and need some help.
[22:57] <rytomi> I have used mostly Fedora up to this point, but this system only has a graphics driver for Lubuntu and I've heard great things.
[22:57] <rytomi> Problem is I don't know how to get the driver running prior to install, the Try and Install options both give a blank screen.
[22:57] <rytomi> Can anyone help?
[22:59] <vikingredwolf> sorry, are you able to install in graphical mode?
[23:00] <vikingredwolf> and what's your graphics card?
[23:04] <vikingredwolf> oh, ok :)
[23:07] <rytomi> Is anyone here?
[23:08] <teward> rytomi: yes we're here but you timed out
[23:08] <teward> [2015-09-14 18:59:56] <vikingredwolf> sorry, are you able to install in graphical mode?
[23:08] <teward> [2015-09-14 19:00:06] <vikingredwolf> and what's your graphics card?
[23:09] <rytomi> The system uses a Via VX900 chipset, Chrome9 graphics card. When it loads GUI I just get blank screen, but can still access other VTs
[23:09] <vikingredwolf> oh back! :D
[23:09] <rytomi> Via provides a GFX driver for Lubuntu 15.04
[23:10] <rytomi> But I guess I need to get it installed somehow first.
[23:10] <rytomi> Sorry, didn't realize I timed out.
[23:11] <vikingredwolf> there's an entry about that precisely: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2263938
[23:12] <rytomi> Thanks for the link, I'll read through that.
[23:12] <vikingredwolf> but not sure if helpful
[23:17] <CooloutAC> rytomi: did you do a disk check on the usb?
[23:20] <CooloutAC> rytomi: maybe this helps  https://journalxtra.com/linux/ubuntu-fixing-the-blank-screen-on-installation-bug/
[23:27] <rytomi> Did the check it has no issues.
[23:28] <rytomi> The thread doesn't really help me because I don't have it installed yet.
[23:29] <CooloutAC> its not for having it installed
[23:29] <CooloutAC> its with the live usb
[23:30] <CooloutAC> rytomi: https://journalxtra.com/linux/ubuntu-fixing-the-blank-screen-on-installation-bug/
[23:32] <rytomi> Thanks, reading that now.
[23:36] <cxd13> is there a way to get lubuntu if i only have a 512 mb flash drive and no CD rom?
[23:36] <cxd13> the iso is almost 700mb
[23:36] <vikingredwolf> the only choice is using a Ubuntu minimal installer and install then lubuntu-core
[23:46] <vikingredwolf> cxd13, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[23:46] <ianorlyn> vikingredwolf: I am pretty sure if you have a hard drive you could install lubuntu-desktop
[23:47] <Unit193> I'd install the task over the metapackage.
[23:47] <vikingredwolf> right, but I guess he should have one too. he said he hasn't a cd reader. me neither.
[23:48] <cxd13> vikingredwolf: cool thank you.
[23:49] <cxd13> ianorlyn: i'm doing this from windows
[23:49] <vikingredwolf> the alternate install won't help either, it's 690M sized
[23:50] <ianorlyn> ah I don't expirence making usb from windows
[23:50] <cxd13> i asked in windows and they said just open the iso, and drag all the contents to the usb stick
[23:50] <vikingredwolf> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Creating_a_bootable_Ubuntu_USB_flash_drive_from_Windows
[23:51] <cxd13> thanks
[23:51] <vikingredwolf> you're welcome
[23:52] <CooloutAC> cxd13: in windows i use a program called rawrite32.exe
[23:52] <cxd13> so they let you install actual lubuntu from their iso and not just ubuntu + generic lxde
[23:52] <CooloutAC> cxd13: https://www.netbsd.org/~martin/rawrite32/
[23:53] <CooloutAC> use that to burn the iso
[23:53] <cxd13> CooloutAC: ok thanks will check it out