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mappsyello03:07
mappsmoved all my stuff to my mates till i move on tuesday and one of my suitcases te zips come off the teeth03:07
mapps:<03:07
mappsyay time for fear the walking dead03:42
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knightwisemoenin f08:00
knightwisei mean .. good morning08:00
zmoylan-piyou mean good moaning08:00
leecowdrey_😀08:03
davmor2Morning all08:18
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Monday, and happy Eat a Hoagie Day! 😃08:30
* zmoylan-pi has to look up what a hoagie is 08:31
* bashrc_ does not know what a Hoagie is08:31
JamesTaithttps://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/eat-a-hoagie-day/08:31
zmoylan-pihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_sandwich#Hoagie08:31
bashrc_ah08:32
* zmoylan-pi has some ham and chicken slices that need to go into a sandwich soon so that's lunch taken care of08:34
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:50
JamesTaitzmoylan-pi, that's the spirit! 😃08:52
JamesTaitbrobostigon, 👋08:52
brobostigonhi JamesTait08:53
brobostigon:)08:53
davmor2JamesTait: this seems oddly appropriate https://vimeo.com/8612020709:03
JamesTaitdavmor2, I was expecting https://youtu.be/ZcJjMnHoIBI09:10
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davmor2JamesTait: yeah but come on they are yellow submarines10:05
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)10:19
dutchiehi bigcalm10:24
bigcalmo/10:28
davmor2morning bigcalm how's life10:30
bigcalmdavmor2: feeling cool despite the temp. gauge saying 21.5C10:31
bigcalmdavmor2: how's yourself?10:31
davmor2bigcalm: good thanks :)10:32
davmor2bigcalm: man the tiger that is brave10:54
davmor2bigcalm: I wouldn't take your laptop10:54
bigcalm?10:55
bigcalmdavmor2: was that intended for me?10:57
davmor2bigcalm: see the mailing list10:57
bigcalmAh, I don't have that email account on this machine in the office. I'll pop onto gmail.com10:58
bigcalmdavmor2: which ML?10:59
davmor2bigcalm: wolves10:59
bigcalmOh!11:00
bigcalmI hadn't even noticed the change of venue :)11:00
bigcalmNoted about the laptop11:00
bigcalmI did find it odd that sparks spoke of a canal11:01
davmor2bigcalm: the angel and tiger are known for the shoplifter to off load stuff as there isn't a big police presences but they might of cleaned up their acts a bit11:05
mappsjust had such a nice calzone:D11:31
foobarryhungry. stuck in a meeting11:37
mapps;D11:38
mappsmontys is goo11:38
mappsd11:38
mappsham, cheese, extra cheese , pepperoni11:38
mappsjust gotta run 1000000km to burn it off;p11:38
* bigcalm tucks in to a disappointing mug shot11:43
diploI also have a drawer full of mugshots11:45
diploBut made a wrap this morning when making kids lunches11:45
bigcalmdirecthex: have you managed to get Evoland working in Linux?11:48
* popey has a peanut butter sarnie11:51
popeynom11:51
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diployuck popey, even hate making them for the boys :/12:19
popeymmmm peanut butter and banana is delicious12:20
Azelphurthese...these are so shiny. http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/g933-7-1-surround-sound-gaming-headset12:21
Azelphurdefinitely getting them as soon as they come out :P12:22
czajkowskipopey: crunchy or smooth ?12:24
popeyI prefer crunchy12:28
foobarryhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/development/ubuntu-touch-utopic-ubuntu-touch-falcon-t282035912:29
foobarryneed an app to read all pages of a xda thread and summarise the pertinent parts that are not subsequently redacted or corrected12:30
popeythere is a forum app on ubuntu phone :)12:30
popeynot sure it can do the intelligent bit12:31
czajkowskipopey: it's the best12:34
popeyhttp://www.dabs.com/products/intel-compute-stick-atom-z3735f-1-33ghz-2gb-hdmi-windows-8-1-BBD0.html  they have them on discount12:38
popeythe windows versions, but they're more powerful12:38
foobarryhp microservers are still cheap12:40
foobarryhttp://www.ebuyer.com/722189-hp-proliant-gen8-g1610t-4gb-ram-microserver-819185-42112:40
foobarrythought they had gone pricey, but nice and cheap again12:40
foobarry£11512:41
* popey is boycotting them12:41
foobarryover bios updates?12:41
popeyya12:41
foobarryhave you told them? they might think you are just really happy with your current one :D12:42
popeyhah12:43
popeywell, I do still have my first generation N36L12:44
popeywhich I am very happy with12:44
popeythat is cheap tho12:44
foobarryhow soon after purcahse are they withdrawing support for bios?12:46
foobarryi haven't been able to find out yet as hp site is so awfl12:48
popeywhen warranty runs out12:50
foobarry2013.10.01 (A)12:50
foobarry15 Nov 201312:50
foobarrylast bios upgrade12:50
foobarryEU warranty is 2 yrs?12:50
davmor2foobarry: popey: http://www.serversplus.com/servers/tower_servers/hp_tower_servers12:51
davmor2foobarry: Top one reads a similar spec £5 cheaper with next day deleivery :)12:51
popeystill not buying it12:52
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foobarrydoes the gen7 servers do ilom out of the box?13:00
foobarryor you need a separate card?13:00
directhexbigcalm: i have, historically, managed to do so13:00
bigcalmdirecthex: humf. Just a black window for me. Maybe I'll give in and play it on Windows instead13:01
directhexthe black window happens on 64-bit distros13:01
bigcalmDon't think I want to move back to 32bit ;)13:02
directhexit's something like needing to bundle your own 32-bit chrome into the game dir13:02
directhexotherwise it tries to use 32-bit flash on distro chrome13:02
bigcalmI see13:03
directhexhttps://steamcommunity.com/app/233470/discussions/0/617329150698258331/?insideModal=113:03
bigcalmNot very out of the boxish, but manageable I guess.13:03
bigcalmThanks :)13:03
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foobarryso i can pay my speeding fine online but i have to send my photocard off? WHYYY?13:11
popeyblimey, that compute stick disappeared13:12
zmoylan-pibecause some one wants the post office to survive13:12
zmoylan-pii didn't see no compute stick >_>13:12
zmoylan-pi<_<13:12
foobarryUnder the new system, drivers will be able to view their up-to-date licence information online and generate a check code to share details with other organisations, while penalty points will only be recorded electronically.13:12
foobarryAs of June 8, new penalty points (endorsements) will only be recorded electronically, and will not be printed or written on either photocard licences or paper driving licences.13:13
foobarryinsanity13:13
zmoylan-piin ireland you have to bring your licence to get the points marked on it i think.  nice fines if you don't bring it13:13
popeyi went on holiday, got a code, didn't get asked for it by hertz13:13
foobarryi have to send mine off13:13
popeyin-laws were insistent that I take my paper counterpart with me13:13
foobarryfor someone to do nothing to it13:13
popeywhich I also wasn't asked for13:13
popeyyeah, told them I've shredded it13:15
zmoylan-pii do remember seeing someone who got a final notice for some service for 0p.  and demanded immediate payment.  the reminders didn't stop till they sent a cheque for 0p13:15
foobarryzmoylan-pi: they should have sent cash13:16
zmoylan-pithey tried sending letters explaining that they were sending no cash but the computer didn't recognise that...13:19
celestehHello, I have a thinkpad, running ubuntu with a smallish SSD drive in it. I want a bigger drive. Apparently, there are two hard drive slots in this computer, one is SSD-only and harder to reach. Is there a way to find out which one I'm using via software?13:29
celestehalternately, any suggestions on who does good work on laptops in london?13:30
foobarrynot sure i understand the question. which thinkpad is it celesteh ?13:41
foobarryah, i understand the quesiton13:42
foobarrysomeone in here might own the same own13:42
foobarrymodel13:42
celestehx22013:44
foobarrypopey has one i think13:44
celestehlshw is showing the Disk as SCSI instead of attached to the sata13:45
foobarrydoes dmidecode also work?13:45
foobarryworks like lshw13:45
diplocelesteh: Pretty sure sata disks show as scsi anyway13:46
popeymy laptop is an x220 yes13:47
popeyi have 2 SSds in it13:47
popeyone 9mm and one msata13:48
popeytechnically you should use a 7mm ssd in an x220, but a 9mm fits at a push :)13:48
popeycelesteh: the x220 does take 'regular' sata disks13:50
celestehI bought mine with a ssd in it. This is probably not an msata?13:50
zmoylan-piwill it not show what's listed in the bios?13:51
bigcalmsmart might tell you what's installed?13:51
celestehI have a vague hope that I could pop a second hard drive in the more accessible slot13:51
popeyonly msata13:51
popeythere's no other bay on the x22013:51
celestehI looked at this web page and it gave me hope of just adding a drive rather than replacing: http://www.storagereview.com/lenovo_thinkpad_x220_upgrade_guide13:52
celestehIt sugests there is a less accessible spot for ssd drives, under the part below the keyboard13:53
popeythe msata port?13:53
popeythe last photo on the page shows it13:54
celestehyes.13:54
popeyhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0085J17UA13:54
celestehIs my drive likely to be in that spot? Is it possible to put an SSD drive in the more accessible spot for hard drives?13:54
popeythats the device i have in mine13:54
popeyno13:54
popeyyour drive is more likely to be in the side slot13:54
celestehok, cheers13:55
popeyopen disk utility and you can see what model of drive you have there13:55
popeythat will be a dead giveaway13:55
celestehNTEL SSDSA2BW160G3L (4PC1LE04)13:56
celestehIntel13:56
celestehGoogle is revealing they had a nasty firmware bug in 200813:58
zmoylan-pii hope people who bought devices then are able to upgrade to get rid of it13:59
celestehgoogle image searches for this show that it's in a normal size drive enclosure, so that is a giveaway14:00
celestehok, thanks all14:02
foobarryusing apache, or otherwise, can i secure an API to only allow GET commands rather than PUT ones?14:25
foobarryhmm maybe Limit and LimitExcept might do it14:26
foobarryaussie PM changed 5 times in six years :-|14:55
zmoylan-pimaybe they should vote one in who doesn't need nappies? :-)14:55
foobarryhow can i block videos posted my my facebook friend but see their written stuff?14:56
foobarryused to be easy14:56
zmoylan-piif it were easy facebook would have to change it :-P14:57
JamesTaitCorrect, foobarry: Limit and LimitExcept are what you want.14:57
JamesTaitLate response, I know, but I was on the school run.14:58
diddledanhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/11856221/Humans-may-accidentally-send-aliens-a-computer-virus.html14:58
zmoylan-piwindows vista? :-)14:58
foobarryJamesTait: somebody else suggested http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/mod/mod_allowmethods.html14:59
davmor2JamesTait: Liar I've seen schools and not one of them ran anywhere15:00
JamesTaitfoobarry, interesting. I note that module is "experimental". I wonder if the intention is for it to replace Limit and LimitExcept at some point.15:03
* foobarry sticks with limit15:03
JamesTaitdavmor2, you just haven't been watching the right schools. 😉15:03
davmor2JamesTait: that or you just lie :P15:09
JamesTaitAs if!15:10
zmoylan-pimay i be struck down b<CONNECTION LOST>15:12
davmor2hahaha15:12
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diddledanthe konami code works on microsoft's homepage right now17:00
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popeydiddledan: and dabs17:28
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foobarrywow twitter is totally down19:09
diddledanoh?19:10
diddledanI'm getting tweets appeaing in tweetdeck19:10
foobarrytwitter.com is shagged19:10
diddledanooh19:10
diddledanit is, too19:10
diddledan"something is 'technically' wrong"19:10
diddledanit's only "technically" wrong tho, nothing really important19:11
foobarryhttp://imgur.com/atPeN3h19:11
daftykinswell that's what's wrong see, it doesn't have its' second clamp!19:20
diddledanyeah19:20
* diddledan snips19:20
daftykinsflags at half mast at the moment over here it seems, the Queen's local rep the Lieutenant Governer died19:39
diddledanoh I thought you were being family unfriendly19:42
daftykinsi'm a good lad!19:44
mappshi all:D19:48
mappssorted my electric and water for new place..yay, not yay i have to make sure i stay up on 17th 1.15 somene comes round to inspect the electric lol like what19:49
mappssomeone lived there till today19:49
mapps27th someone comes rounnd 10a to connect the water19:49
mappshad to go these places in person with my passport, rental contract etc..so annoying in the uk signup online..done19:49
daftykins0o19:50
daftykinsjust got my first monthly security update on the Nexus 4 from Google19:51
daftykins7MB update19:51
diddledanwhen does M arrive?19:51
daftykinsno idea19:51
daftykinsnewer versions don't really do anything for me, so i've lost interest for the most part :)19:52
mappsoh and i had to go to the gib bank again..absoute joke 4months ago i signed up..emaile told its here soon..email no reply..go in today an told my acs open then told 'nope the copy of your passport wasnt clear enough' so why didn't someone email/phone? or even tell me when i emailed them19:52
daftykinsGoogle don't even care that trying to video call with skype causes the Nexus 4 to go blank and cease functioning19:52
diddledanouch19:52
daftykinsmapps: nasty19:53
diddledanwonder whether that's an endemic android thing or skype doing something funky19:53
mappsthen i ask to change address as i move on thursday and i'm told il need to write a letter, had my rental contract with me luckily so the girl photocopies it and writes my address and says to sign -- she writes the address of the estate agents19:53
mappsseriously what's wrong here lol19:53
daftykinsdiddledan: well if you go back to pre-4.3 on the Nexus 4 like a mate did, it works fine19:53
* brobostigon has heard marshmellow will arive on either the 28th or 29th.20:04
brobostigonmy bet is the 28th.20:05
brobostigonanyhow, on my nexus 4, the only chance of marshmellow/droid-v.6, is CM.20:06
brobostigoni doubt google will be making a version for the nexus 4.20:06
daftykinsi think i already read it's still getting it, but i've wondered when the chop will come20:07
brobostigonwow, ok.20:07
daftykinsi might be remembering wrong20:08
brobostigoni was going to say, thats new news to me.20:09
MyrttiI just got yet another update on my Nexus 520:27
Myrttiwith a ... um July kernel20:27
daftykinsprobably the security update i just did20:32
daftykinsshould've bumped your build from ending in M to ending in I i think it was20:32
daftykinsah no the other way around of course20:32
daftykinsway2alphabet dafty20:32
Myrttimine was a bit bigger tho20:57
Myrttithan 7MB20:57
diddledanI've not had mine yet20:57
Myrttibut you've got 4 and I've got 520:58
diddledanjust prodded the check-now button and it still says I'm up -to-date with a build ending in I on an N620:58
diddledanhttps://letsencrypt.org/2015/09/14/our-first-cert.html21:13
diddledan\o/21:13
daftykinsyou've got a 6? :o21:23
daftykinsslow waves :)21:24
diddledan:-p21:25
shaunoharrow21:29
diddledanhans brix?21:29
daftykinshey sir21:29
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/cu6ny33lb0mmznm/IMG-20150914-WA0013.jpeg?dl=021:29
daftykinscold tonight21:29
shaunothat's not cold, that's shorts.21:30
diddledanand a fluffy thing21:30
daftykinsnot cold for me ;)21:30
mappshm cant find router user/pass21:32
mappsAxtel ZNID 24xx on this u-mee thing21:32
diddledanmapps: root/root21:32
mappsseems decent enough, i signed up today - 3months free no connection 50mbit/ohone/tv ...tv uses internet and still gets sk 1 hd..sky sports etc i think off some south spain satellite and then relayed?21:33
mappsbooo didnt work..tried user/user admin/admin21:34
mappsadmin/pass21:34
daftykinssounds naughty21:34
daftykinswhat are you trying to do? port forward?21:34
mappsyea it does to me too daftykins but look yourself, proper company u-mee.com i think somehow it's legal as they get it from south spain satellites not uk21:34
mappsnah just poke around21:35
mappslike if you look at http://www.theskydoctor.com everyone living in south spain from work uses this21:35
mappsand gets ALL the channels espn..bt.sky apparently off greek satellites relayed through the net to them at home..how is this legal?!21:36
mappstried t find out more but couldnt find much online21:36
mappsanyone use anything similar?21:38
shaunonope, law-abiding citizen here :)21:40
daftykinsnot fussed about having TV service at all21:44
mappsheh21:44
shaunoI'm annoyed at my isp atm.  I've had the same ip address since I moved in here.21:45
shaunowent on vacation for a week, and it changed while I was gone.21:45
shaunoit's like they did it on purpose.21:45
daftykins:/21:45
brobostigoni think i could survive with iplayer and syfy :)21:45
daftykinsMurphy's law right there21:45
brobostigonwith just*21:45
mappsheh21:50
mappshavent checked iplayer for a while21:50
mappswatched first dates on 4od earlier , so funny:D21:50
brobostigonbbc2, bbc4 and syfy, what more do you need. i think the funniest prog i have watched recently was mock the week.21:52
mappswould i lie to you is good21:53
mappsassuming it's stillon21:53
brobostigoni agree. it is yes.21:53
shaunohm, I read that as "assuming it's stilton" and was quite confused21:54
brobostigonnot stilton?21:55
brobostigonsorry, i didnt read it properly.21:55
mappsoops silly me not putting a space in21:57
daftykinsshauno: me too!22:05
diddledanme three22:06
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diddledan"I'm not saying that a blood sacrifice is guaranteed to fix sendmail. I'm just saying it's worth a shot."22:42
mapps;]22:43
shaunojosh always used to recommend sacrificing chickens.  can't say it's gone wrong yet22:44
diddledanyeah but he runs freebsd.22:45
shaunostill, bbq chicken pizza is certainly a cornerstone of my mail stack22:46
diddledanspeaking of which, what exactly are pretzels?22:46
diddledanofc nobody in here knows of whom we speak :-p22:47
shaunoyou ever get those snacks that are like a really skinny, salty breadstick?22:47
shaunoif you tie a knot in one, you get a pretzel :)22:48
diddledanlol22:48
shaunomy phone keeps telling me to upgrade off the ios beta.  every single time I unlock it.  which is all very well, but it's not an OTA upgrade.22:49
shaunogrrr.22:49
diddledanoops22:49
daftykins:D22:50
mappsheh22:50
mappswhat version of ios22:50
daftykinssmells like a 9 preview22:50
mappsive never ha a pretzel;]22:50
daftykinshttps://imgur.com/gallery/RdvdmoH23:07
daftykinsd'aww23:07
diddledanyey kitties23:26
shaunohm.  according to itunes, my phone hasn't been backed up since ww123:31
zmoylan-pimaybe it means iraq war ii23:52
shaunonah, it says 191023:52
zmoylan-piah irak war 023:53

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