[03:07] <mapps> yello
[03:07] <mapps> moved all my stuff to my mates till i move on tuesday and one of my suitcases te zips come off the teeth
[03:07] <mapps> :<
[03:42] <mapps> yay time for fear the walking dead
[08:00] <knightwise> moenin f
[08:00] <knightwise> i mean .. good morning
[08:00] <zmoylan-pi> you mean good moaning
[08:03] <leecowdrey_> 😀
[08:18] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:30] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Eat a Hoagie Day! 😃
[08:31]  * zmoylan-pi has to look up what a hoagie is 
[08:31]  * bashrc_ does not know what a Hoagie is
[08:31] <JamesTait> https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/eat-a-hoagie-day/
[08:31] <zmoylan-pi> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_sandwich#Hoagie
[08:32] <bashrc_> ah
[08:34]  * zmoylan-pi has some ham and chicken slices that need to go into a sandwich soon so that's lunch taken care of
[08:50] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:52] <JamesTait> zmoylan-pi, that's the spirit! 😃
[08:52] <JamesTait> brobostigon, 👋
[08:53] <brobostigon> hi JamesTait
[08:53] <brobostigon> :)
[09:03] <davmor2> JamesTait: this seems oddly appropriate https://vimeo.com/86120207
[09:10] <JamesTait> davmor2, I was expecting https://youtu.be/ZcJjMnHoIBI
[10:05] <davmor2> JamesTait: yeah but come on they are yellow submarines
[10:19] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:24] <dutchie> hi bigcalm
[10:28] <bigcalm> o/
[10:30] <davmor2> morning bigcalm how's life
[10:31] <bigcalm> davmor2: feeling cool despite the temp. gauge saying 21.5C
[10:31] <bigcalm> davmor2: how's yourself?
[10:32] <davmor2> bigcalm: good thanks :)
[10:54] <davmor2> bigcalm: man the tiger that is brave
[10:54] <davmor2> bigcalm: I wouldn't take your laptop
[10:55] <bigcalm> ?
[10:57] <bigcalm> davmor2: was that intended for me?
[10:57] <davmor2> bigcalm: see the mailing list
[10:58] <bigcalm> Ah, I don't have that email account on this machine in the office. I'll pop onto gmail.com
[10:59] <bigcalm> davmor2: which ML?
[10:59] <davmor2> bigcalm: wolves
[11:00] <bigcalm> Oh!
[11:00] <bigcalm> I hadn't even noticed the change of venue :)
[11:00] <bigcalm> Noted about the laptop
[11:01] <bigcalm> I did find it odd that sparks spoke of a canal
[11:05] <davmor2> bigcalm: the angel and tiger are known for the shoplifter to off load stuff as there isn't a big police presences but they might of cleaned up their acts a bit
[11:31] <mapps> just had such a nice calzone:D
[11:37] <foobarry> hungry. stuck in a meeting
[11:38] <mapps> ;D
[11:38] <mapps> montys is goo
[11:38] <mapps> d
[11:38] <mapps> ham, cheese, extra cheese , pepperoni
[11:38] <mapps> just gotta run 1000000km to burn it off;p
[11:43]  * bigcalm tucks in to a disappointing mug shot
[11:45] <diplo> I also have a drawer full of mugshots
[11:45] <diplo> But made a wrap this morning when making kids lunches
[11:48] <bigcalm> directhex: have you managed to get Evoland working in Linux?
[11:51]  * popey has a peanut butter sarnie
[11:51] <popey> nom
[12:19] <diplo> yuck popey, even hate making them for the boys :/
[12:20] <popey> mmmm peanut butter and banana is delicious
[12:21] <Azelphur> these...these are so shiny. http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/g933-7-1-surround-sound-gaming-headset
[12:22] <Azelphur> definitely getting them as soon as they come out :P
[12:24] <czajkowski> popey: crunchy or smooth ?
[12:28] <popey> I prefer crunchy
[12:29] <foobarry> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/development/ubuntu-touch-utopic-ubuntu-touch-falcon-t2820359
[12:30] <foobarry> need an app to read all pages of a xda thread and summarise the pertinent parts that are not subsequently redacted or corrected
[12:30] <popey> there is a forum app on ubuntu phone :)
[12:31] <popey> not sure it can do the intelligent bit
[12:34] <czajkowski> popey: it's the best
[12:38] <popey> http://www.dabs.com/products/intel-compute-stick-atom-z3735f-1-33ghz-2gb-hdmi-windows-8-1-BBD0.html  they have them on discount
[12:38] <popey> the windows versions, but they're more powerful
[12:40] <foobarry> hp microservers are still cheap
[12:40] <foobarry> http://www.ebuyer.com/722189-hp-proliant-gen8-g1610t-4gb-ram-microserver-819185-421
[12:40] <foobarry> thought they had gone pricey, but nice and cheap again
[12:41] <foobarry> £115
[12:41]  * popey is boycotting them
[12:41] <foobarry> over bios updates?
[12:41] <popey> ya
[12:42] <foobarry> have you told them? they might think you are just really happy with your current one :D
[12:43] <popey> hah
[12:44] <popey> well, I do still have my first generation N36L
[12:44] <popey> which I am very happy with
[12:44] <popey> that is cheap tho
[12:46] <foobarry> how soon after purcahse are they withdrawing support for bios?
[12:48] <foobarry> i haven't been able to find out yet as hp site is so awfl
[12:50] <popey> when warranty runs out
[12:50] <foobarry> 2013.10.01 (A)
[12:50] <foobarry> 15 Nov 2013
[12:50] <foobarry> last bios upgrade
[12:50] <foobarry> EU warranty is 2 yrs?
[12:51] <davmor2> foobarry: popey: http://www.serversplus.com/servers/tower_servers/hp_tower_servers
[12:51] <davmor2> foobarry: Top one reads a similar spec £5 cheaper with next day deleivery :)
[12:52] <popey> still not buying it
[13:00] <foobarry> does the gen7 servers do ilom out of the box?
[13:00] <foobarry> or you need a separate card?
[13:00] <directhex> bigcalm: i have, historically, managed to do so
[13:01] <bigcalm> directhex: humf. Just a black window for me. Maybe I'll give in and play it on Windows instead
[13:01] <directhex> the black window happens on 64-bit distros
[13:02] <bigcalm> Don't think I want to move back to 32bit ;)
[13:02] <directhex> it's something like needing to bundle your own 32-bit chrome into the game dir
[13:02] <directhex> otherwise it tries to use 32-bit flash on distro chrome
[13:03] <bigcalm> I see
[13:03] <directhex> https://steamcommunity.com/app/233470/discussions/0/617329150698258331/?insideModal=1
[13:03] <bigcalm> Not very out of the boxish, but manageable I guess.
[13:03] <bigcalm> Thanks :)
[13:11] <foobarry> so i can pay my speeding fine online but i have to send my photocard off? WHYYY?
[13:12] <popey> blimey, that compute stick disappeared
[13:12] <zmoylan-pi> because some one wants the post office to survive
[13:12] <zmoylan-pi> i didn't see no compute stick >_>
[13:12] <zmoylan-pi> <_<
[13:12] <foobarry> Under the new system, drivers will be able to view their up-to-date licence information online and generate a check code to share details with other organisations, while penalty points will only be recorded electronically.
[13:13] <foobarry> As of June 8, new penalty points (endorsements) will only be recorded electronically, and will not be printed or written on either photocard licences or paper driving licences.
[13:13] <foobarry> insanity
[13:13] <zmoylan-pi> in ireland you have to bring your licence to get the points marked on it i think.  nice fines if you don't bring it
[13:13] <popey> i went on holiday, got a code, didn't get asked for it by hertz
[13:13] <foobarry> i have to send mine off
[13:13] <popey> in-laws were insistent that I take my paper counterpart with me
[13:13] <foobarry> for someone to do nothing to it
[13:13] <popey> which I also wasn't asked for
[13:15] <popey> yeah, told them I've shredded it
[13:15] <zmoylan-pi> i do remember seeing someone who got a final notice for some service for 0p.  and demanded immediate payment.  the reminders didn't stop till they sent a cheque for 0p
[13:16] <foobarry> zmoylan-pi: they should have sent cash
[13:19] <zmoylan-pi> they tried sending letters explaining that they were sending no cash but the computer didn't recognise that...
[13:29] <celesteh> Hello, I have a thinkpad, running ubuntu with a smallish SSD drive in it. I want a bigger drive. Apparently, there are two hard drive slots in this computer, one is SSD-only and harder to reach. Is there a way to find out which one I'm using via software?
[13:30] <celesteh> alternately, any suggestions on who does good work on laptops in london?
[13:41] <foobarry> not sure i understand the question. which thinkpad is it celesteh ?
[13:42] <foobarry> ah, i understand the quesiton
[13:42] <foobarry> someone in here might own the same own
[13:42] <foobarry> model
[13:44] <celesteh> x220
[13:44] <foobarry> popey has one i think
[13:45] <celesteh> lshw is showing the Disk as SCSI instead of attached to the sata
[13:45] <foobarry> does dmidecode also work?
[13:45] <foobarry> works like lshw
[13:46] <diplo> celesteh: Pretty sure sata disks show as scsi anyway
[13:47] <popey> my laptop is an x220 yes
[13:47] <popey> i have 2 SSds in it
[13:48] <popey> one 9mm and one msata
[13:48] <popey> technically you should use a 7mm ssd in an x220, but a 9mm fits at a push :)
[13:50] <popey> celesteh: the x220 does take 'regular' sata disks
[13:50] <celesteh> I bought mine with a ssd in it. This is probably not an msata?
[13:51] <zmoylan-pi> will it not show what's listed in the bios?
[13:51] <bigcalm> smart might tell you what's installed?
[13:51] <celesteh> I have a vague hope that I could pop a second hard drive in the more accessible slot
[13:51] <popey> only msata
[13:51] <popey> there's no other bay on the x220
[13:52] <celesteh> I looked at this web page and it gave me hope of just adding a drive rather than replacing: http://www.storagereview.com/lenovo_thinkpad_x220_upgrade_guide
[13:53] <celesteh> It sugests there is a less accessible spot for ssd drives, under the part below the keyboard
[13:53] <popey> the msata port?
[13:54] <popey> the last photo on the page shows it
[13:54] <celesteh> yes.
[13:54] <popey> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0085J17UA
[13:54] <celesteh> Is my drive likely to be in that spot? Is it possible to put an SSD drive in the more accessible spot for hard drives?
[13:54] <popey> thats the device i have in mine
[13:54] <popey> no
[13:54] <popey> your drive is more likely to be in the side slot
[13:55] <celesteh> ok, cheers
[13:55] <popey> open disk utility and you can see what model of drive you have there
[13:55] <popey> that will be a dead giveaway
[13:56] <celesteh> NTEL SSDSA2BW160G3L (4PC1LE04)
[13:56] <celesteh> Intel
[13:58] <celesteh> Google is revealing they had a nasty firmware bug in 2008
[13:59] <zmoylan-pi> i hope people who bought devices then are able to upgrade to get rid of it
[14:00] <celesteh> google image searches for this show that it's in a normal size drive enclosure, so that is a giveaway
[14:02] <celesteh> ok, thanks all
[14:25] <foobarry> using apache, or otherwise, can i secure an API to only allow GET commands rather than PUT ones?
[14:26] <foobarry> hmm maybe Limit and LimitExcept might do it
[14:55] <foobarry> aussie PM changed 5 times in six years :-|
[14:55] <zmoylan-pi> maybe they should vote one in who doesn't need nappies? :-)
[14:56] <foobarry> how can i block videos posted my my facebook friend but see their written stuff?
[14:56] <foobarry> used to be easy
[14:57] <zmoylan-pi> if it were easy facebook would have to change it :-P
[14:57] <JamesTait> Correct, foobarry: Limit and LimitExcept are what you want.
[14:58] <JamesTait> Late response, I know, but I was on the school run.
[14:58] <diddledan> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/11856221/Humans-may-accidentally-send-aliens-a-computer-virus.html
[14:58] <zmoylan-pi> windows vista? :-)
[14:59] <foobarry> JamesTait: somebody else suggested http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/mod/mod_allowmethods.html
[15:00] <davmor2> JamesTait: Liar I've seen schools and not one of them ran anywhere
[15:03] <JamesTait> foobarry, interesting. I note that module is "experimental". I wonder if the intention is for it to replace Limit and LimitExcept at some point.
[15:03]  * foobarry sticks with limit
[15:03] <JamesTait> davmor2, you just haven't been watching the right schools. 😉
[15:09] <davmor2> JamesTait: that or you just lie :P
[15:10] <JamesTait> As if!
[15:12] <zmoylan-pi> may i be struck down b<CONNECTION LOST>
[15:12] <davmor2> hahaha
[17:00] <diddledan> the konami code works on microsoft's homepage right now
[17:28] <popey> diddledan: and dabs
[19:09] <foobarry> wow twitter is totally down
[19:10] <diddledan> oh?
[19:10] <diddledan> I'm getting tweets appeaing in tweetdeck
[19:10] <foobarry> twitter.com is shagged
[19:10] <diddledan> ooh
[19:10] <diddledan> it is, too
[19:10] <diddledan> "something is 'technically' wrong"
[19:11] <diddledan> it's only "technically" wrong tho, nothing really important
[19:11] <foobarry> http://imgur.com/atPeN3h
[19:20] <daftykins> well that's what's wrong see, it doesn't have its' second clamp!
[19:20] <diddledan> yeah
[19:20]  * diddledan snips
[19:39] <daftykins> flags at half mast at the moment over here it seems, the Queen's local rep the Lieutenant Governer died
[19:42] <diddledan> oh I thought you were being family unfriendly
[19:44] <daftykins> i'm a good lad!
[19:48] <mapps> hi all:D
[19:49] <mapps> sorted my electric and water for new place..yay, not yay i have to make sure i stay up on 17th 1.15 somene comes round to inspect the electric lol like what
[19:49] <mapps> someone lived there till today
[19:49] <mapps> 27th someone comes rounnd 10a to connect the water
[19:49] <mapps> had to go these places in person with my passport, rental contract etc..so annoying in the uk signup online..done
[19:50] <daftykins> 0o
[19:51] <daftykins> just got my first monthly security update on the Nexus 4 from Google
[19:51] <daftykins> 7MB update
[19:51] <diddledan> when does M arrive?
[19:51] <daftykins> no idea
[19:52] <daftykins> newer versions don't really do anything for me, so i've lost interest for the most part :)
[19:52] <mapps> oh and i had to go to the gib bank again..absoute joke 4months ago i signed up..emaile told its here soon..email no reply..go in today an told my acs open then told 'nope the copy of your passport wasnt clear enough' so why didn't someone email/phone? or even tell me when i emailed them
[19:52] <daftykins> Google don't even care that trying to video call with skype causes the Nexus 4 to go blank and cease functioning
[19:52] <diddledan> ouch
[19:53] <daftykins> mapps: nasty
[19:53] <diddledan> wonder whether that's an endemic android thing or skype doing something funky
[19:53] <mapps> then i ask to change address as i move on thursday and i'm told il need to write a letter, had my rental contract with me luckily so the girl photocopies it and writes my address and says to sign -- she writes the address of the estate agents
[19:53] <mapps> seriously what's wrong here lol
[19:53] <daftykins> diddledan: well if you go back to pre-4.3 on the Nexus 4 like a mate did, it works fine
[20:04]  * brobostigon has heard marshmellow will arive on either the 28th or 29th.
[20:05] <brobostigon> my bet is the 28th.
[20:06] <brobostigon> anyhow, on my nexus 4, the only chance of marshmellow/droid-v.6, is CM.
[20:06] <brobostigon> i doubt google will be making a version for the nexus 4.
[20:07] <daftykins> i think i already read it's still getting it, but i've wondered when the chop will come
[20:07] <brobostigon> wow, ok.
[20:08] <daftykins> i might be remembering wrong
[20:09] <brobostigon> i was going to say, thats new news to me.
[20:27] <Myrtti> I just got yet another update on my Nexus 5
[20:27] <Myrtti> with a ... um July kernel
[20:32] <daftykins> probably the security update i just did
[20:32] <daftykins> should've bumped your build from ending in M to ending in I i think it was
[20:32] <daftykins> ah no the other way around of course
[20:32] <daftykins> way2alphabet dafty
[20:57] <Myrtti> mine was a bit bigger tho
[20:57] <Myrtti> than 7MB
[20:57] <diddledan> I've not had mine yet
[20:58] <Myrtti> but you've got 4 and I've got 5
[20:58] <diddledan> just prodded the check-now button and it still says I'm up -to-date with a build ending in I on an N6
[21:13] <diddledan> https://letsencrypt.org/2015/09/14/our-first-cert.html
[21:13] <diddledan> \o/
[21:23] <daftykins> you've got a 6? :o
[21:24] <daftykins> slow waves :)
[21:25] <diddledan> :-p
[21:29] <shauno> harrow
[21:29] <diddledan> hans brix?
[21:29] <daftykins> hey sir
[21:29] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/cu6ny33lb0mmznm/IMG-20150914-WA0013.jpeg?dl=0
[21:29] <daftykins> cold tonight
[21:30] <shauno> that's not cold, that's shorts.
[21:30] <diddledan> and a fluffy thing
[21:30] <daftykins> not cold for me ;)
[21:32] <mapps> hm cant find router user/pass
[21:32] <mapps> Axtel ZNID 24xx on this u-mee thing
[21:32] <diddledan> mapps: root/root
[21:33] <mapps> seems decent enough, i signed up today - 3months free no connection 50mbit/ohone/tv ...tv uses internet and still gets sk 1 hd..sky sports etc i think off some south spain satellite and then relayed?
[21:34] <mapps> booo didnt work..tried user/user admin/admin
[21:34] <mapps> admin/pass
[21:34] <daftykins> sounds naughty
[21:34] <daftykins> what are you trying to do? port forward?
[21:34] <mapps> yea it does to me too daftykins but look yourself, proper company u-mee.com i think somehow it's legal as they get it from south spain satellites not uk
[21:35] <mapps> nah just poke around
[21:35] <mapps> like if you look at http://www.theskydoctor.com everyone living in south spain from work uses this
[21:36] <mapps> and gets ALL the channels espn..bt.sky apparently off greek satellites relayed through the net to them at home..how is this legal?!
[21:36] <mapps> tried t find out more but couldnt find much online
[21:38] <mapps> anyone use anything similar?
[21:40] <shauno> nope, law-abiding citizen here :)
[21:44] <daftykins> not fussed about having TV service at all
[21:44] <mapps> heh
[21:45] <shauno> I'm annoyed at my isp atm.  I've had the same ip address since I moved in here.
[21:45] <shauno> went on vacation for a week, and it changed while I was gone.
[21:45] <shauno> it's like they did it on purpose.
[21:45] <daftykins> :/
[21:45] <brobostigon> i think i could survive with iplayer and syfy :)
[21:45] <daftykins> Murphy's law right there
[21:45] <brobostigon> with just*
[21:50] <mapps> heh
[21:50] <mapps> havent checked iplayer for a while
[21:50] <mapps> watched first dates on 4od earlier , so funny:D
[21:52] <brobostigon> bbc2, bbc4 and syfy, what more do you need. i think the funniest prog i have watched recently was mock the week.
[21:53] <mapps> would i lie to you is good
[21:53] <mapps> assuming it's stillon
[21:53] <brobostigon> i agree. it is yes.
[21:54] <shauno> hm, I read that as "assuming it's stilton" and was quite confused
[21:55] <brobostigon> not stilton?
[21:55] <brobostigon> sorry, i didnt read it properly.
[21:57] <mapps> oops silly me not putting a space in
[22:05] <daftykins> shauno: me too!
[22:06] <diddledan> me three
[22:42] <diddledan> "I'm not saying that a blood sacrifice is guaranteed to fix sendmail. I'm just saying it's worth a shot."
[22:43] <mapps> ;]
[22:44] <shauno> josh always used to recommend sacrificing chickens.  can't say it's gone wrong yet
[22:45] <diddledan> yeah but he runs freebsd.
[22:46] <shauno> still, bbq chicken pizza is certainly a cornerstone of my mail stack
[22:46] <diddledan> speaking of which, what exactly are pretzels?
[22:47] <diddledan> ofc nobody in here knows of whom we speak :-p
[22:47] <shauno> you ever get those snacks that are like a really skinny, salty breadstick?
[22:48] <shauno> if you tie a knot in one, you get a pretzel :)
[22:48] <diddledan> lol
[22:49] <shauno> my phone keeps telling me to upgrade off the ios beta.  every single time I unlock it.  which is all very well, but it's not an OTA upgrade.
[22:49] <shauno> grrr.
[22:49] <diddledan> oops
[22:50] <daftykins> :D
[22:50] <mapps> heh
[22:50] <mapps> what version of ios
[22:50] <daftykins> smells like a 9 preview
[22:50] <mapps> ive never ha a pretzel;]
[23:07] <daftykins> https://imgur.com/gallery/RdvdmoH
[23:07] <daftykins> d'aww
[23:26] <diddledan> yey kitties
[23:31] <shauno> hm.  according to itunes, my phone hasn't been backed up since ww1
[23:52] <zmoylan-pi> maybe it means iraq war ii
[23:52] <shauno> nah, it says 1910
[23:53] <zmoylan-pi> ah irak war 0