[14:58] <brousch> pyramid saves the day! I was down to mod_wsgi with apache or waitress for a working wsgi server on Windows
[14:59] <brousch> For Django
[15:05] <rick_h_> :)
[15:05] <rick_h_> pyramid always wins
[15:07] <cmaloney> for great justice
[15:37] <jrwren> its because the aliens built them.
[15:53] <brousch> In your Python projects, do you have Makefile commands for creating/populating/activating a virtualenv, or do you leave it to the user?
[15:55] <jrwren> brousch: /I/ never assume or require venv use. i consider it an antipattern. Everything I work on at work does the opposite and has makefile commands which do venv sutff.
[17:14] <brousch> jrwren: Interesting
[17:16] <brousch> I think it's a good practice, but I'm not sure I should be imposing it for developing/running