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flocculantknome: so when is being able to see the b/p on the front page of the tracker coming back06:10
flocculantdetails is nice though :)06:10
knomeflocculant, go to the details page and select a blueprint from the dropdown10:04
knomeflocculant, or if you want to see it in a similar format as "all expanded", click on the specification column header to sort the table by column10:07
knomeflocculant, i plan a few more improvements to the page (eg. i'm thinking to allow you to get a permalink to the page with any filter you've set)10:10
knomeflocculant, then as i'm implementing new, better looking input stuff, i'm going to implement cleaning any filter with one click (eg. no need to select the first item in the dropdown or delete the text)10:11
knomeflocculant, and after those two changes, i *might* add a filter for status10:11
knomebut definitely not before that, too hard :P10:11
knome(not really, but it will be much saner then as i'm improving the code as i go)10:12
flocculantknome: so the front page is nothing more than a list now? 10:24
flocculantI used the front page more than any of the others :(10:24
knomeflocculant, basically yes10:25
flocculant:(10:25
knomeand i'm sorry for the changes, but the details page is now able to give you that in a much better form10:25
flocculanttoo much clicking involved to get to things now 10:25
knomewell as i said, i plan to be able to give out permalinks10:25
flocculantnot going to be the same the way I used it10:26
flocculantnvm 10:26
knomewhy?10:26
flocculantbecause I'd need a bunch of permalinks10:26
knomei mean if you can get the same data minus the headers with one link...10:26
flocculantas it stands people need to wade through stuff OR filter stuff 10:27
flocculantpreviously could just click on something in overview to see basics10:27
flocculantsuggest you rename overview to list - because it's not an overview anymore ;)10:28
knomeoh, the improved filters will reduce the amount of clicks10:28
knomebecause hey will instantly drop down10:28
knome*they10:28
knomeif that helps at all..10:28
flocculantdoesn't really replace the simple method10:29
knomewell, no, but then the click amount needed is the same10:29
knomeone per each blueprint10:29
flocculantit replaces a single click with a load of clicks and possibly typing as well10:29
knomeor to see all, one (clicking the spec column header)10:29
knomei don't understand how - please explain10:29
knomeor maybe better - tell me how you perused the overview table10:30
flocculantpreviously if I wanted to see dev b/p I clicked it on front page - now click something, then scroll down, then click again10:30
knomeso currently, you just select the dev blueprint from the dropdown10:31
knomethat's two click instead of one - i know - but in the future, it'll be one10:31
knomebecause the dropdown will not need the first click to open10:31
knomeOR you can click on one of the links in the spec column to show only that spec10:32
flocculantI don't understand why you removed the click option from the front page 10:32
flocculantit was simple10:33
knomenot on the backend10:33
flocculantbut whatever - not going to say anymore about it 10:33
knomei needed to maintain a bunch of if's etc10:33
knomeplease... i don't see this as my way vs. your way at all10:33
flocculant:)10:33
knomeit's changed, sure, but i want to make it as useful to everybody10:33
knomeand of course it's still not perfect10:33
knomeso please guide me to make it as useful as possible10:34
knomethat's why i'm asking and telling you10:34
flocculantwell - currently it's too complicated for my use10:34
knomewhen you click on the spec column header10:35
flocculantand if the nice way meant loads of backend hassle then that's ok - I'll not use tracker as much as I used to 10:35
knomeis that list at all close to what you'd like to see?10:35
flocculantknome: not really - too detailed10:35
knomebecause that's basically the "expand" all view without the headers10:35
flocculantwhat I used often was overview 10:35
knomeok, so would this help:10:36
knomein the overview tab, i added a link to the details tab, where you'd only see items in that spec?10:36
flocculantnot really 10:37
knomebecayse?10:37
knomes/y/u/10:37
SwissBotknome meant: "because?"10:37
knomesilly bot..10:37
flocculantthe whiteboard is still going to be missing10:37
knomeah, the whiteboard10:37
knomeas you see, it's not implemented yet ;)10:37
flocculantthe front page was really useful exactly as it was 10:37
flocculantat least to me10:37
knomeok, i'll think about it10:38
flocculantwading through detail and clicking and typing stuff in details is just extra work 10:38
knomemaybe i can pull stuff with js there10:38
knomewell you don't have to type anything unless you want to :)10:38
flocculantdon't get me wrong - it's better than before we had it :)10:38
flocculantperhaps detail would be more useful to me if it didn't have all the struckthrough stuff10:39
flocculantas it is - it's just too much words :)10:39
knomeheh, i can see that...10:40
knomemaybe i'll come up with something.10:40
flocculantwell I'd nto want you to spend time on just my account ofc10:40
knomenah, it's fine10:42
knomebe assured, i won't put any time into it i can't10:42
flocculantlol10:42
knomebut if i can, i likely will10:42
knomeso - you're not taking away any time from anything else10:43
flocculant:)10:43
flocculantbluesabre: bunch of 'exo' updates here just fyi10:50
bluesabreflocculant: yup, new bugfix release (with 1 bugfix)10:51
flocculantyep - saw some chatter 10:51
bluesabreflocculant: the bigger one is the new exo package that should land sometime soon10:53
bluesabreand is in -staging10:53
flocculantbluesabre: I guess I've got that then :D10:54
flocculantcos I've 'just' updated ... 10:56
drcThe daily's useful today?15:54
flocculantuseful to see if it works yet15:55
flocculantnot useful for anything but that :p15:55
* drc has a shotgun....15:55
flocculantthough you can run the installer once you get past the try/install dialogue if you want to 15:55
flocculantI've just critical failed today's build 15:56
drcno thanks :)15:56
flocculant:)15:56
flocculanthopefully (fingers crossed) we'll have autotesting up soon - and then we'll get that on our tracker somewhere 15:57
flocculantbe easy for people to check :)15:57
drcWould be nice...b2's comming up soonish.15:57
flocculantyep 15:57
flocculantseems the issue is something to do with Network Manager 15:58
drchuh...wonder if it's related to whatever makes Network Monitor plugin not work?15:59
flocculantif that's a general issue - possible15:59
flocculantif it's just an issue for us - perhaps not, the image boot fail is *buntu wide15:59
drcdon't know if it's "general"...it didn't wotk for me, and did/did-not work for you (iirc)16:00
drcah, that's what you meant16:00
dkesselknome: oh, regarding auto image tests: i believe the blocking bug in ubiquity has been fixed. but i am not sure what the progress is on running a jenkins server and reporting the results. i'll ask in -quality. my irc bouncer has been really unreliable lately17:15
flocculantdkessel: I've been following :)17:31
dkesselah, okay :)17:32
Unit193http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/commit/?id=6caed779e627c368e2d3e578d1fad60cd7ef1d1820:05
Unit193bluesabre, ochosi: So I pinged you in -devel, please read backlog a little (it is short!)  krytarik and I are in favor of keeping as-is.20:42
knomehttp://i.imgur.com/FzqUcRZ.png20:45
Unit193knome: And, read -devel for any core updates from me. :P20:45
knomethis is devel?20:45
knomeare you hallucinating?20:46
Unit193http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/09/14/%23ubuntu-devel.html#t19:4420:46
knomeminimal is also minimal ISO20:47
knomelite is meh20:47
Unit193Which I noticed, yes.20:47
knomexubuntu core is the best of the three alternatives suggested there20:47
flocculantUnit193: I see you got that package set uploading thingy sorted :)20:50
Unit193flocculant: Yes sir!20:50
flocculantcongrats 20:50
knome!conga-rats20:50
ubottu♫ samba rumba bueno la conga cha cha cha20:50
Unit193Surprisingly, went very smoothly!20:50
Unit193flocculant: Thanks.20:50
flocculantI just read that :)20:50
knomei think it might be time for the daily "break the tracker" task again20:51
flocculantknome: was thinking a bit more about that 20:52
knomeflocculant, aha? :)20:52
flocculantI still think I'm right :D20:52
ochosievening20:52
knomehahah20:52
knomeok...20:52
flocculantnah 20:52
knomeochosi, ping-a-ling20:52
flocculanthi ochosi 20:52
knomeok, here goes20:52
knomeall or nothing20:52
knomeoh sigh20:53
ochosinothing?20:53
knomeyeah, i guess...20:53
flocculantwell it wouldn't be if the front page wasn't just a list :D20:54
ochosiUnit193: congrats!20:56
Unit193Thanks, ochosi!20:57
ochosiUnit193: and re: core, i think we already discussed this the first time infinity (or someone else?) brought up that concern but i still think it doesn't really matter that much20:59
ochosiso i'm fine with keeping as-is21:00
ochosiknome: nice filters and all, but they don't work atm, right?21:00
knomeok, here we go21:00
knomethey should work *now*21:00
knomejust do a hard refresh21:00
knomei just changed them to new ones21:00
ochosihumm, still no worky here after hard refresh21:01
knomefilters from url do not work ATM21:01
knomeochosi, you weirdy21:01
knome:P21:01
knomechrome?21:01
ochosior maybe i don't know what i'm doing21:01
ochosino, ff21:01
ochosiand noscript etc disabled21:01
knomeaha21:01
knomewell clearly they work for me21:01
knomeso what do you see?21:02
knomeoh21:02
knomehmm21:02
knomeochosi, try now..?21:02
knomeand yeah, the filters from the table do not work either right now21:02
ochosiright, thats better :>21:02
knomewill need to fix that next21:02
ochosithe "x" is a bit hard to see, but other than that it's all awesome!21:03
flocculantmmm21:03
knomeflocculant, see, better dropdowns?21:03
ochosiUnit193: shouldn't you set a certain workitem in community-bp as fixed?21:03
Unit193Oh.21:04
flocculantreally don't see the need to have 'done' things on there 21:04
flocculantknome: ^^ 21:04
knomeflocculant, ack, let's see what i come up with later :P21:04
flocculantthat said - if the overview was how it used to be - then I'd not care what details was like ;)21:05
flocculantmore and more complexity doesn't always work 21:05
flocculantI'm off now anyway - night all 21:08
knomenighty21:08
knomeochosi, assignee links from table work now21:10
knomeochosi, also, did you acknowledge you can sort by column by clicking the header?21:11
knomeochosi, spec links from table work now as well21:12
knomeheh, ok, the text filter stopped working now21:13
knomei've had this before, and i think why...21:14
knomehah, nope, but it was a trivial fix21:14
knomeworks now21:14
knomebetter refer to the correct ID21:14
ochosinice sorting21:16
ochosibtw, not complaining or anything, but reloading the page resets the filter because it's not in the URL21:16
ochosior is that by design?21:16
knomeit's by design for now21:16
knome00:01  knome: filters from url do not work ATM21:17
knomei will redo that so you can save any filter state to a bookmark21:17
knomebut only manually, i won't be changing the url on every event21:17
knomethat should give you enough flexibility anyway21:17
knome(i will basically craft you a link that changes on every event)21:17
ochosiyeah, that's more than enough21:18
ochosiwould even be fine as is21:18
knomeyeah well,21:18
knomei need some urls for the email reminders21:18
ochosiactually i've stopped going to LP or the website since you started the tracker ;p21:18
knomewell, that's good i think...21:19
knomeoh btw21:19
knome"back" and "forward" work now21:19
knomeas they should21:19
knomei'm pushing states to the browser history21:19
ochosiindeed21:19
ochosicool21:19
knomewhat do you think of the new overview page then?21:20
knomeobviously the whiteboard link doesn't work for now21:20
knomebut otherwise21:20
knomedo you miss the work item lists in there?21:20
ochosii was wondering whether clicking the bp title shouldnt take you to the corresponding bp filter on the details page21:22
ochosi(and yeah, i miss them a little)21:22
knomeyeah, i'll likely do that21:22
ochosigotta head to bed, night all!21:27
ochosibluesabre: and kudos to all the dev work you got done lately! sorry for being so consumed by RL...21:28
knomeochosi, http://tracker.xubuntu.org/#tab-details/a:ochosi21:34
knomenighty ochosi 21:34
bluesabreUnit193: congrats!21:42
Unit193Thanks, bluesabre.  Looks like you better hurry up and get MOTU! ;)21:43
knomehaha21:43
Unit193Thought you said they asked a bunch of questions about procedure and all, though.21:43
bluesabreUnit193: yeah, getting ready to get started on that shortly21:43
bluesabreUnit193: they wanted to keep it away from me most likely21:43
bluesabre:D21:43
bluesabreUnit193: what kinda questions did you get?21:43
Unit193bluesabre: Basically, some examples about what I was most proud of, and one asked another the policy on not using real names.21:44
bluesabreUnit193: Unit193 isn't your real name? :o21:45
Unit193bluesabre: Nope, "Unit 193" is.21:45
bluesabreaha21:46
bluesabretricksy21:46
Unit193They somehow doubt that's on my drivers license though.21:46
drcDigital camera+gimp+printer says it is.21:47
bluesabre:D21:49
bluesabregotta run for now, bbabl21:49
Unit193bluesabre: Why I no have descriptions still!?21:55

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