[06:10] <flocculant> knome: so when is being able to see the b/p on the front page of the tracker coming back
[06:10] <flocculant> details is nice though :)
[10:04] <knome> flocculant, go to the details page and select a blueprint from the dropdown
[10:07] <knome> flocculant, or if you want to see it in a similar format as "all expanded", click on the specification column header to sort the table by column
[10:10] <knome> flocculant, i plan a few more improvements to the page (eg. i'm thinking to allow you to get a permalink to the page with any filter you've set)
[10:11] <knome> flocculant, then as i'm implementing new, better looking input stuff, i'm going to implement cleaning any filter with one click (eg. no need to select the first item in the dropdown or delete the text)
[10:11] <knome> flocculant, and after those two changes, i *might* add a filter for status
[10:11] <knome> but definitely not before that, too hard :P
[10:12] <knome> (not really, but it will be much saner then as i'm improving the code as i go)
[10:24] <flocculant> knome: so the front page is nothing more than a list now? 
[10:24] <flocculant> I used the front page more than any of the others :(
[10:25] <knome> flocculant, basically yes
[10:25] <flocculant> :(
[10:25] <knome> and i'm sorry for the changes, but the details page is now able to give you that in a much better form
[10:25] <flocculant> too much clicking involved to get to things now 
[10:25] <knome> well as i said, i plan to be able to give out permalinks
[10:26] <flocculant> not going to be the same the way I used it
[10:26] <flocculant> nvm 
[10:26] <knome> why?
[10:26] <flocculant> because I'd need a bunch of permalinks
[10:26] <knome> i mean if you can get the same data minus the headers with one link...
[10:27] <flocculant> as it stands people need to wade through stuff OR filter stuff 
[10:27] <flocculant> previously could just click on something in overview to see basics
[10:28] <flocculant> suggest you rename overview to list - because it's not an overview anymore ;)
[10:28] <knome> oh, the improved filters will reduce the amount of clicks
[10:28] <knome> because hey will instantly drop down
[10:28] <knome> *they
[10:28] <knome> if that helps at all..
[10:29] <flocculant> doesn't really replace the simple method
[10:29] <knome> well, no, but then the click amount needed is the same
[10:29] <knome> one per each blueprint
[10:29] <flocculant> it replaces a single click with a load of clicks and possibly typing as well
[10:29] <knome> or to see all, one (clicking the spec column header)
[10:29] <knome> i don't understand how - please explain
[10:30] <knome> or maybe better - tell me how you perused the overview table
[10:30] <flocculant> previously if I wanted to see dev b/p I clicked it on front page - now click something, then scroll down, then click again
[10:31] <knome> so currently, you just select the dev blueprint from the dropdown
[10:31] <knome> that's two click instead of one - i know - but in the future, it'll be one
[10:31] <knome> because the dropdown will not need the first click to open
[10:32] <knome> OR you can click on one of the links in the spec column to show only that spec
[10:32] <flocculant> I don't understand why you removed the click option from the front page 
[10:33] <flocculant> it was simple
[10:33] <knome> not on the backend
[10:33] <flocculant> but whatever - not going to say anymore about it 
[10:33] <knome> i needed to maintain a bunch of if's etc
[10:33] <knome> please... i don't see this as my way vs. your way at all
[10:33] <flocculant> :)
[10:33] <knome> it's changed, sure, but i want to make it as useful to everybody
[10:33] <knome> and of course it's still not perfect
[10:34] <knome> so please guide me to make it as useful as possible
[10:34] <knome> that's why i'm asking and telling you
[10:34] <flocculant> well - currently it's too complicated for my use
[10:35] <knome> when you click on the spec column header
[10:35] <flocculant> and if the nice way meant loads of backend hassle then that's ok - I'll not use tracker as much as I used to 
[10:35] <knome> is that list at all close to what you'd like to see?
[10:35] <flocculant> knome: not really - too detailed
[10:35] <knome> because that's basically the "expand" all view without the headers
[10:35] <flocculant> what I used often was overview 
[10:36] <knome> ok, so would this help:
[10:36] <knome> in the overview tab, i added a link to the details tab, where you'd only see items in that spec?
[10:37] <flocculant> not really 
[10:37] <knome> becayse?
[10:37] <knome> s/y/u/
[10:37] <SwissBot> knome meant: "because?"
[10:37] <knome> silly bot..
[10:37] <flocculant> the whiteboard is still going to be missing
[10:37] <knome> ah, the whiteboard
[10:37] <knome> as you see, it's not implemented yet ;)
[10:37] <flocculant> the front page was really useful exactly as it was 
[10:37] <flocculant> at least to me
[10:38] <knome> ok, i'll think about it
[10:38] <flocculant> wading through detail and clicking and typing stuff in details is just extra work 
[10:38] <knome> maybe i can pull stuff with js there
[10:38] <knome> well you don't have to type anything unless you want to :)
[10:38] <flocculant> don't get me wrong - it's better than before we had it :)
[10:39] <flocculant> perhaps detail would be more useful to me if it didn't have all the struckthrough stuff
[10:39] <flocculant> as it is - it's just too much words :)
[10:40] <knome> heh, i can see that...
[10:40] <knome> maybe i'll come up with something.
[10:40] <flocculant> well I'd nto want you to spend time on just my account ofc
[10:42] <knome> nah, it's fine
[10:42] <knome> be assured, i won't put any time into it i can't
[10:42] <flocculant> lol
[10:42] <knome> but if i can, i likely will
[10:43] <knome> so - you're not taking away any time from anything else
[10:43] <flocculant> :)
[10:50] <flocculant> bluesabre: bunch of 'exo' updates here just fyi
[10:51] <bluesabre> flocculant: yup, new bugfix release (with 1 bugfix)
[10:51] <flocculant> yep - saw some chatter 
[10:53] <bluesabre> flocculant: the bigger one is the new exo package that should land sometime soon
[10:53] <bluesabre> and is in -staging
[10:54] <flocculant> bluesabre: I guess I've got that then :D
[10:56] <flocculant> cos I've 'just' updated ... 
[15:54] <drc> The daily's useful today?
[15:55] <flocculant> useful to see if it works yet
[15:55] <flocculant> not useful for anything but that :p
[15:55]  * drc has a shotgun....
[15:55] <flocculant> though you can run the installer once you get past the try/install dialogue if you want to 
[15:56] <flocculant> I've just critical failed today's build 
[15:56] <drc> no thanks :)
[15:56] <flocculant> :)
[15:57] <flocculant> hopefully (fingers crossed) we'll have autotesting up soon - and then we'll get that on our tracker somewhere 
[15:57] <flocculant> be easy for people to check :)
[15:57] <drc> Would be nice...b2's comming up soonish.
[15:57] <flocculant> yep 
[15:58] <flocculant> seems the issue is something to do with Network Manager 
[15:59] <drc> huh...wonder if it's related to whatever makes Network Monitor plugin not work?
[15:59] <flocculant> if that's a general issue - possible
[15:59] <flocculant> if it's just an issue for us - perhaps not, the image boot fail is *buntu wide
[16:00] <drc> don't know if it's "general"...it didn't wotk for me, and did/did-not work for you (iirc)
[16:00] <drc> ah, that's what you meant
[17:15] <dkessel> knome: oh, regarding auto image tests: i believe the blocking bug in ubiquity has been fixed. but i am not sure what the progress is on running a jenkins server and reporting the results. i'll ask in -quality. my irc bouncer has been really unreliable lately
[17:31] <flocculant> dkessel: I've been following :)
[17:32] <dkessel> ah, okay :)
[20:05] <Unit193> http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/commit/?id=6caed779e627c368e2d3e578d1fad60cd7ef1d18
[20:42] <Unit193> bluesabre, ochosi: So I pinged you in -devel, please read backlog a little (it is short!)  krytarik and I are in favor of keeping as-is.
[20:45] <knome> http://i.imgur.com/FzqUcRZ.png
[20:45] <Unit193> knome: And, read -devel for any core updates from me. :P
[20:45] <knome> this is devel?
[20:46] <knome> are you hallucinating?
[20:46] <Unit193> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/09/14/%23ubuntu-devel.html#t19:44
[20:47] <knome> minimal is also minimal ISO
[20:47] <knome> lite is meh
[20:47] <Unit193> Which I noticed, yes.
[20:47] <knome> xubuntu core is the best of the three alternatives suggested there
[20:50] <flocculant> Unit193: I see you got that package set uploading thingy sorted :)
[20:50] <Unit193> flocculant: Yes sir!
[20:50] <flocculant> congrats 
[20:50] <knome> !conga-rats
[20:50] <Unit193> Surprisingly, went very smoothly!
[20:50] <Unit193> flocculant: Thanks.
[20:50] <flocculant> I just read that :)
[20:51] <knome> i think it might be time for the daily "break the tracker" task again
[20:52] <flocculant> knome: was thinking a bit more about that 
[20:52] <knome> flocculant, aha? :)
[20:52] <flocculant> I still think I'm right :D
[20:52] <ochosi> evening
[20:52] <knome> hahah
[20:52] <knome> ok...
[20:52] <flocculant> nah 
[20:52] <knome> ochosi, ping-a-ling
[20:52] <flocculant> hi ochosi 
[20:52] <knome> ok, here goes
[20:52] <knome> all or nothing
[20:53] <knome> oh sigh
[20:53] <ochosi> nothing?
[20:53] <knome> yeah, i guess...
[20:54] <flocculant> well it wouldn't be if the front page wasn't just a list :D
[20:56] <ochosi> Unit193: congrats!
[20:57] <Unit193> Thanks, ochosi!
[20:59] <ochosi> Unit193: and re: core, i think we already discussed this the first time infinity (or someone else?) brought up that concern but i still think it doesn't really matter that much
[21:00] <ochosi> so i'm fine with keeping as-is
[21:00] <ochosi> knome: nice filters and all, but they don't work atm, right?
[21:00] <knome> ok, here we go
[21:00] <knome> they should work *now*
[21:00] <knome> just do a hard refresh
[21:00] <knome> i just changed them to new ones
[21:01] <ochosi> humm, still no worky here after hard refresh
[21:01] <knome> filters from url do not work ATM
[21:01] <knome> ochosi, you weirdy
[21:01] <knome> :P
[21:01] <knome> chrome?
[21:01] <ochosi> or maybe i don't know what i'm doing
[21:01] <ochosi> no, ff
[21:01] <ochosi> and noscript etc disabled
[21:01] <knome> aha
[21:01] <knome> well clearly they work for me
[21:02] <knome> so what do you see?
[21:02] <knome> oh
[21:02] <knome> hmm
[21:02] <knome> ochosi, try now..?
[21:02] <knome> and yeah, the filters from the table do not work either right now
[21:02] <ochosi> right, thats better :>
[21:02] <knome> will need to fix that next
[21:03] <ochosi> the "x" is a bit hard to see, but other than that it's all awesome!
[21:03] <flocculant> mmm
[21:03] <knome> flocculant, see, better dropdowns?
[21:03] <ochosi> Unit193: shouldn't you set a certain workitem in community-bp as fixed?
[21:04] <Unit193> Oh.
[21:04] <flocculant> really don't see the need to have 'done' things on there 
[21:04] <flocculant> knome: ^^ 
[21:04] <knome> flocculant, ack, let's see what i come up with later :P
[21:05] <flocculant> that said - if the overview was how it used to be - then I'd not care what details was like ;)
[21:05] <flocculant> more and more complexity doesn't always work 
[21:08] <flocculant> I'm off now anyway - night all 
[21:08] <knome> nighty
[21:10] <knome> ochosi, assignee links from table work now
[21:11] <knome> ochosi, also, did you acknowledge you can sort by column by clicking the header?
[21:12] <knome> ochosi, spec links from table work now as well
[21:13] <knome> heh, ok, the text filter stopped working now
[21:14] <knome> i've had this before, and i think why...
[21:14] <knome> hah, nope, but it was a trivial fix
[21:14] <knome> works now
[21:14] <knome> better refer to the correct ID
[21:16] <ochosi> nice sorting
[21:16] <ochosi> btw, not complaining or anything, but reloading the page resets the filter because it's not in the URL
[21:16] <ochosi> or is that by design?
[21:16] <knome> it's by design for now
[21:17] <knome> 00:01  knome: filters from url do not work ATM
[21:17] <knome> i will redo that so you can save any filter state to a bookmark
[21:17] <knome> but only manually, i won't be changing the url on every event
[21:17] <knome> that should give you enough flexibility anyway
[21:17] <knome> (i will basically craft you a link that changes on every event)
[21:18] <ochosi> yeah, that's more than enough
[21:18] <ochosi> would even be fine as is
[21:18] <knome> yeah well,
[21:18] <knome> i need some urls for the email reminders
[21:18] <ochosi> actually i've stopped going to LP or the website since you started the tracker ;p
[21:19] <knome> well, that's good i think...
[21:19] <knome> oh btw
[21:19] <knome> "back" and "forward" work now
[21:19] <knome> as they should
[21:19] <knome> i'm pushing states to the browser history
[21:19] <ochosi> indeed
[21:19] <ochosi> cool
[21:20] <knome> what do you think of the new overview page then?
[21:20] <knome> obviously the whiteboard link doesn't work for now
[21:20] <knome> but otherwise
[21:20] <knome> do you miss the work item lists in there?
[21:22] <ochosi> i was wondering whether clicking the bp title shouldnt take you to the corresponding bp filter on the details page
[21:22] <ochosi> (and yeah, i miss them a little)
[21:22] <knome> yeah, i'll likely do that
[21:27] <ochosi> gotta head to bed, night all!
[21:28] <ochosi> bluesabre: and kudos to all the dev work you got done lately! sorry for being so consumed by RL...
[21:34] <knome> ochosi, http://tracker.xubuntu.org/#tab-details/a:ochosi
[21:34] <knome> nighty ochosi 
[21:42] <bluesabre> Unit193: congrats!
[21:43] <Unit193> Thanks, bluesabre.  Looks like you better hurry up and get MOTU! ;)
[21:43] <knome> haha
[21:43] <Unit193> Thought you said they asked a bunch of questions about procedure and all, though.
[21:43] <bluesabre> Unit193: yeah, getting ready to get started on that shortly
[21:43] <bluesabre> Unit193: they wanted to keep it away from me most likely
[21:43] <bluesabre> :D
[21:43] <bluesabre> Unit193: what kinda questions did you get?
[21:44] <Unit193> bluesabre: Basically, some examples about what I was most proud of, and one asked another the policy on not using real names.
[21:45] <bluesabre> Unit193: Unit193 isn't your real name? :o
[21:45] <Unit193> bluesabre: Nope, "Unit 193" is.
[21:46] <bluesabre> aha
[21:46] <bluesabre> tricksy
[21:46] <Unit193> They somehow doubt that's on my drivers license though.
[21:47] <drc> Digital camera+gimp+printer says it is.
[21:49] <bluesabre> :D
[21:49] <bluesabre> gotta run for now, bbabl
[21:55] <Unit193> bluesabre: Why I no have descriptions still!?