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| alan_g_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| LeHappyFrog | hi all! | 15:01 |
| LeHappyFrog | !start | 15:01 |
| balloons | hello everyone! | 15:01 |
| dpm | hey all | 15:01 |
| kgunn | hi guys | 15:01 |
| dpm | about to start in a minute | 15:01 |
| LeHappyFrog | i have countless QUESTIONS :prefix: | 15:02 |
| LeHappyFrog | Live stream is starting soon | 15:03 |
| LeHappyFrog | QUESTION: what is the status of non intel drivers for mir/unity8? i have a really bad time running unity8 on amd/nvidia | 15:04 |
| greyback | stream working | 15:04 |
| la_juyis | yeah! | 15:05 |
| dpm | thanks LeHappyFrog, we'll take your question next :) | 15:05 |
| dpm | thanks for confirming the stream works | 15:06 |
| theBest | QUESTION: How will a ubuntu store look/work with all the snapy apps in it for different devices like phone, desktop, mycroft, robots, fridges... | 15:06 |
| LeHappyFrog | :D works for me | 15:06 |
| LeHappyFrog | QUESTION is possible to develop apps for ubuntu phone on other ubuntu based distros like Ubuntu MATE, lubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu etc | 15:08 |
| pavakpaul | QUESTION: Raspberry Pi got official touchscreen display. What about Ubuntu touch support for Raspberry Pi 2? It'd be great I think. | 15:09 |
| LeHappyFrog | QUESTION: how do i install ubuntu snappy personal on a spare partition? the image doesn't appear to have an installer | 15:11 |
| dholbach | QUESTION: Can you maybe talk a bit about testing and QA of Mir and Unity8 and how it changed over time and how good things are working nowadays? | 15:12 |
| dshimer | QUESTION: Can you explain the timeline and steps that will eventually give me a stable Unity 8 based desktop on which I can use all my current programs. I have been committed to always running the default desktop 6 month releases, how will my life evolve over the next few years? | 15:13 |
| aresminos | QUESTION: will you consider to officialy support ubuntu touch on Nexus 5 in the future since Nexus 4 is getting pretty old? | 15:13 |
| LeHappyFrog | QUESTION: how one install and test Unity8? | 15:14 |
| concerned_user | Question : Hello, I'd like to ask if you guys are developing ubuntu touch for Samsung smart phones? Right now it is available in very limited devices and think Ubuntu can and have a fair chance to compete with Cyanogen on alternate Operating System on smart phones market. Thank you. | 15:15 |
| mrbrownstone3g | QUESTION: Is there still work ongoing to add libinput support to mir. | 15:15 |
| jnxd | QUESTION: Any news on the work on getting proxy and WPA(2) Enterprise working with ubuntu touch? As of now, I am only able to access net on the browser and webviews, and that too after much cli-foo. | 15:17 |
| dpm | thanks everyone for the great questions! | 15:17 |
| LeHappyFrog | QUESTION: lots of games are made in SDL/SDL2. are there plans to help those devs to easily port the games to ubuntu phone? maybe official SDL templates in SDK? | 15:19 |
| theBest | QUESTION: How is the work with the design team? Do you only code what they give you or do you code/design something for yourselfe and than show the design team what you came up with? | 15:21 |
| LeHappyFrog | QUESTION: any plans for ubuntu game center? i probably has the best score in Falldown game but nobody can see it :(. maybe a simple api so you can send scores using ubuntu one | 15:23 |
| LeHappyFrog | on desktop :D | 15:24 |
| bregma | apt-get install unity8-desktop-session-mir | 15:25 |
| LeHappyFrog | ^^ ok thanks, on intel only, right? | 15:25 |
| anpok | LeHappyFrog: on mesa based graphics drivers | 15:26 |
| LeHappyFrog | but thanks :P | 15:26 |
| LeHappyFrog | i can challange you on that :D | 15:26 |
| davidcalle | ---> http://askubuntu.com/questions/447891/how-to-install-unity-8 | 15:26 |
| dpm | http://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/ | 15:26 |
| anpok | LeHappyFrog: i.e. kvm-qxl, current radeons or amd apus, and most new nvidias should work | 15:26 |
| peter-bittner | QUESTION: What percentage of Canonical is working / are focused on Ubuntu Touch? Just to give us a feeling... | 15:27 |
| LeHappyFrog | should :P | 15:27 |
| goddard | will ubuntu touch work with Nexus 6 CDMA ever? Was that answered? | 15:28 |
| mhall119 | goddard: IIRC, there was some copyright or licensing issues around CDMA, plus it's a deprecated technology, so it's probably not going to be worth the effort | 15:29 |
| nik90 | jnxd: Pretty sure WPA(2) Entreprise support landed with OTA-5. I am able to connect to eduroam which uses WPA2 Entreprise. | 15:29 |
| jnxd | WPA2 enterprise needs a username and password rather than just a passkey | 15:30 |
| jnxd | The bug for proxy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1452291 | 15:30 |
| goddard | mhall119: will ubuntu touch work with the Nexus 6 then? It does have the ability to use GSM networks as well. | 15:30 |
| theBest | Could also connect to eduroam but only once. If I now put in the passwort it does not work anymore. Anoyone knows why? | 15:30 |
| nik90 | jnxd: ok, so? You can still enter the username and password through the UI. | 15:31 |
| mhall119 | goddard: if somebody ports it, sure, that's how the Nexus 5 got Ubuntu | 15:31 |
| ahayzen | nik90, eduroam \o/ | 15:31 |
| davidcalle | re: WPA2, this bug implies it's been released https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1241986 | 15:31 |
| bregma | SDL does not support GL|ES so it may never be ported to the phone: SDL2 has a native Mir port so it should be easy | 15:31 |
| nik90 | ahayzen: \o | 15:31 |
| jnxd | nik90: I cannot. I have to edit te file in etc/Net.../sys.../<Wifi_Name> | 15:31 |
| mhall119 | LeHappyFrog: there are several SDL-based games for the phone in the store already | 15:32 |
| ahayzen | and yeah i've been using eduroam on my device all week, has a few quirks but it works, and you have to enter a username and password for that | 15:32 |
| LeHappyFrog | QUESTION: is there any support for gamepads in qml? i want to code a simple qml apps that uses the gamepad in qml | 15:32 |
| LeHappyFrog | mhall119: yes but there is no official template | 15:32 |
| mhall119 | LeHappyFrog: ah, I see what you're saying, file a wish-list bug against lp:ubuntu-sdk to create one | 15:33 |
| goddard | mhall119: i am no expert on phones but i heard on xda it is a problem with lollipop? | 15:33 |
| LeHappyFrog | i will :D thanks michael :P | 15:33 |
| mhall119 | goddard: could be, I don't think we're using the latest Android kernel for our images, and the Nexus 6 probably requires it | 15:33 |
| nik90 | jnxd: no idea why..When I first connected with my university eduroam wifi, it prompted me for username, password and other details necessary to connect to it via WPA 2 Entreprise. | 15:34 |
| nik90 | jnxd: now that you know that WPA 2 Entreprise support landed, it is best to report a bug for your case. | 15:34 |
| nik90 | but support in the UI has definitely landed for a long time. | 15:34 |
| goddard | mhall119: damn wish some one knew :D | 15:35 |
| LeHappyFrog | QUESTION: i've seen so many people running ubuntu/unity7 on surface, nvidia shield, random chinese intel tables, when will they be able to run unity8 on them | 15:36 |
| jnxd | nik90: I'll have to check the reproducibility. could just be that it was already saved and so it didn't ask me | 15:36 |
| nik90 | jnxd: I did just notice now that I cannot edit the username of the connection that I already have saved. The only way is to forget the network and start from scratch. | 15:37 |
| davidcalle | QtGamepad -> QML (french) https://guillaumebelz.wordpress.com/2013/11/18/qt-gamepad-utilisation-du-gamepad-en-qml/ | 15:37 |
| LeHappyFrog | i love le french :D thanks | 15:37 |
| amp | QUESTION: How is it different to run legacy X11 apps on X11/Unity7 and running them on (X)Mir/Unity8, security wise? How are the apps isolated? How do you compare the protection level from proprietary apps? (For example apps spying on my personal data from filesystem/other apps/etc. on X11/Unity7 and Mir/Unity8)? | 15:37 |
| davidcalle | Le QtGamepad :) | 15:38 |
| jnxd | nik90: I'm more concerned with the proxy trouble. WPA2 Ent. is one time only, but I'll have to change proxy often if I get a data plan or use somewhere else's wifi | 15:38 |
| nik90 | jnxd: pretty sure proxy support hasn't landed afaik. so :/ | 15:38 |
| LeHappyFrog | :)) davidcalle | 15:38 |
| jnxd | nik90: you can't change the personal one's passkey too. try making a hotspot on your PC. | 15:39 |
| nik90 | jnxd: true. I suspect editing network connections UI needs to be implemented. | 15:40 |
| bregma | amp, legacy apps on Unity8 are isolated by running confined in a container with separate XMir instances for each application and apparmor guarding other infrastructure | 15:41 |
| LeHappyFrog | QUESTION: any plans for a snappy based x86 tablet (that can run steam). basically i want a tablet that i can use as a gaming console with a gamepad on bluetooth. how well does xmir performs? like running dota2 | 15:41 |
| suman | hallo | 15:43 |
| davidcalle | LeHappyFrog, actually, dota2 doesn't need xmir, it can run natively on mir https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAWVFAIaleQ :) | 15:43 |
| bregma | LeHappyFrog, our tests show DOTA2 runs just great on XMir on x86 using a regular desktop | 15:43 |
| peter-bittner | QUESTION: Could we have an on-air session with the Ubuntu design team? To help better understand the design decisions and the roadmap we should expect. | 15:43 |
| davidcalle | bregma, oh, was it xmir in the video ? ^ | 15:43 |
| LeHappyFrog | uuu nice :D | 15:44 |
| anpok | sdl2 on mir | 15:44 |
| bregma | davidcalle, no, it was Mir, but there are issues running Steam without XMir | 15:44 |
| davidcalle | bregma, oh, right | 15:44 |
| bregma | the Steam client itself | 15:44 |
| LeHappyFrog | QUESTION: is it possible to copy paste from xmir to a qml app? | 15:44 |
| LeHappyFrog | this is probably the best ubuntuonair video :)) | 15:45 |
| dpm | peter-bittner, good idea, we'll note it down as our next guest suggestions | 15:47 |
| amp | QUESTION: How is it different to run legacy X11 apps on X11/Unity7 and running them on (X)Mir/Unity8, security wise? How are the apps isolated? How do you compare the protection level from proprietary apps? (For example apps spying on my personal data from filesystem/other apps/etc. on X11/Unity7 and Mir/Unity8)? | 15:48 |
| nik90 | LeHappyFrog: Dota 2 is based on Source 2 which will support Vulkan API which in turn *should* well in Wayland/Mir. | 15:51 |
| LeHappyFrog | thanks! :D | 15:52 |
| LeHappyFrog | please invite Kevin Gunn more often :D | 15:53 |
| dpm | :-) | 15:53 |
| dpm | we'll do :) | 15:53 |
| LeHappyFrog | he's pretty cool :D all ubuntu devs are ;D | 15:53 |
| LeHappyFrog | but ogra is the best | 15:53 |
| LeHappyFrog | #1 | 15:53 |
| kgunn | yes ogra is undeniably the best ;) | 15:54 |
| LeHappyFrog | :P | 15:55 |
| popey | haha | 15:55 |
| jnxd | QUESTION: In one of the earlier episodes, there was a mention of someone providing theme suggestions for ub. phone. Can you recall where I can find that? | 15:56 |
| LeHappyFrog | if you encounter bugs, i think it's safe to just blame popey | 15:56 |
| popey | so they say | 15:56 |
| LeHappyFrog | :d | 15:56 |
| user20 | Question Is there any image for the desktop with unity 8 available for testing, which is newer than May 2015? | 15:56 |
| bregma | user20, no, the desktop-next images was discontinued, and the Ubuntu Personal is not yet ready | 15:57 |
| user20 | ok thanks | 15:58 |
| davidcalle | user20, no image, but a package: http://askubuntu.com/questions/447891/how-to-install-unity-8 | 15:58 |
| user20 | ok then I will test that, thanks | 16:00 |
| Thibaut | QUESTION: Will there be a new set of desktop widgets for convergent apps? | 16:01 |
| mhall119 | Thibaut: they are in the works, just starting to land | 16:02 |
| nik90 | Thibaut: desktop widgets? | 16:02 |
| mhall119 | Thibaut: such as https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/blog/2015/08/10/adaptive-page-layouts/ | 16:02 |
| Thibaut | Yes desktop widgets | 16:02 |
| Thibaut | no | 16:02 |
| Thibaut | widgets for an app, like a button or drop-down | 16:03 |
| mhall119 | Thibaut: right, adaptive page layouts are layout components for desktop apps, buttons should be the same, drop-downs are being re-designed for desktop use too | 16:03 |
| mhall119 | menu widgets are also being worked on | 16:03 |
| nik90 | Thibaut: at the moment, the swipe delete actions convert to a right-click menu for list items. | 16:04 |
| mhall119 | all of the existing components are being reviewed for desktop usecases | 16:04 |
| nik90 | that work is definitely being worked on at the moment. | 16:04 |
| Thibaut | what about the header-bar? | 16:04 |
| mhall119 | Thibaut: see the link I posted, it shows a little of that | 16:04 |
| nik90 | well header-bar works nicely with the adaptivepagelayout that mhall119 linked | 16:04 |
| nik90 | apps still don't have traditional menus | 16:05 |
| mhall119 | there are more designs for handling header actions in a desktop environment too | 16:05 |
| nik90 | but that's requires deeper support from the platform. | 16:05 |
| mhall119 | Thibaut: remember that the goal is same-code, same-widgets, every-device, so there won't be a separate set of widgets for the desktop | 16:05 |
| dpm | thanks everyone! | 16:05 |
| Thibaut | Yes and thats why I did wonder when the desktop version of widgets land | 16:06 |
| Thibaut | thx for the info | 16:07 |
| davidcalle | Thibaut, there is going to be adaptative widgets, eg. list items you slide left and right on the phone for options, will be replaced by right clicks options on desktop. | 16:07 |
| davidcalle | Thibaut, look for the ubuntu-ui-toolkit project on Launchpad, there is a "staging" PPA that allows you to follow it quite closely (usung Ubuntu.Components 1.3 in QML) | 16:08 |
| davidcalle | using* | 16:08 |
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| fahim | when ubuntu phone will be released in Asian country like Bangladesh? | 19:04 |
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