[15:01] <greyback> o/
[15:01] <alan_g_> o/
[15:01] <LeHappyFrog> hi all!
[15:01] <LeHappyFrog> !start
[15:01] <balloons> hello everyone!
[15:01] <dpm> hey all
[15:01] <kgunn> hi guys
[15:01] <dpm> about to start in a minute
[15:02] <LeHappyFrog> i have countless QUESTIONS :prefix:
[15:03] <LeHappyFrog> Live stream is starting soon
[15:04] <LeHappyFrog> QUESTION: what is the status of non intel drivers for mir/unity8? i have a really bad time running unity8 on amd/nvidia
[15:04] <greyback> stream working
[15:05] <la_juyis> yeah!
[15:05] <dpm> thanks LeHappyFrog, we'll take your question next :)
[15:06] <dpm> thanks for confirming the stream works
[15:06] <theBest> QUESTION: How will a ubuntu store look/work with all the snapy apps in it for different devices like phone, desktop, mycroft, robots, fridges...
[15:06] <LeHappyFrog> :D works for me
[15:08] <LeHappyFrog> QUESTION is possible to develop apps for ubuntu phone on other ubuntu based distros like Ubuntu MATE, lubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu etc
[15:09] <pavakpaul> QUESTION: Raspberry Pi got official touchscreen display. What about Ubuntu touch support for Raspberry Pi 2? It'd be great I think.
[15:11] <LeHappyFrog> QUESTION: how do i install ubuntu snappy personal on a spare partition? the image doesn't appear to have an installer
[15:12] <dholbach> QUESTION: Can you maybe talk a bit about testing and QA of Mir and Unity8 and how it changed over time and how good things are working nowadays?
[15:13] <dshimer> QUESTION: Can you explain the timeline and steps that will eventually give me a stable Unity 8 based desktop on which I can use all my current programs. I have been committed to always running the default desktop 6 month releases, how will my life evolve over the next few years?
[15:13] <aresminos> QUESTION: will you consider to officialy support ubuntu touch on Nexus 5 in the future since Nexus 4 is getting pretty old?
[15:14] <LeHappyFrog> QUESTION: how one install and test Unity8?
[15:15] <concerned_user> Question : Hello, I'd like to ask if you guys are developing ubuntu touch for Samsung smart phones? Right now it is available in very limited devices and think Ubuntu can and have a fair chance to compete with Cyanogen on alternate Operating System on smart phones market. Thank you.
[15:15] <mrbrownstone3g> QUESTION:  Is there still work ongoing to add libinput support to mir.
[15:17] <jnxd> QUESTION: Any news on the work on getting proxy and WPA(2) Enterprise working with ubuntu touch? As of now, I am only able to access net on the browser and webviews, and that too after much cli-foo.
[15:17] <dpm> thanks everyone for the great questions!
[15:19] <LeHappyFrog> QUESTION: lots of games are made in SDL/SDL2. are there plans to help those devs to easily port the games to ubuntu phone? maybe official SDL templates in SDK?
[15:21] <theBest> QUESTION: How is the work with the design team? Do you only code what they give you or do you code/design something for yourselfe and than show the design team what you came up with?
[15:23] <LeHappyFrog> QUESTION: any plans for ubuntu game center? i probably has the best score in Falldown game but nobody can see it :(. maybe a simple api so you can send scores using ubuntu one
[15:24] <LeHappyFrog> on desktop :D
[15:25] <bregma> apt-get install unity8-desktop-session-mir
[15:25] <LeHappyFrog> ^^ ok thanks, on intel only, right?
[15:26] <anpok> LeHappyFrog: on mesa based graphics drivers
[15:26] <LeHappyFrog> but thanks :P
[15:26] <LeHappyFrog> i can challange you on that :D
[15:26] <davidcalle> ---> http://askubuntu.com/questions/447891/how-to-install-unity-8
[15:26] <dpm> http://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/
[15:26] <anpok> LeHappyFrog: i.e. kvm-qxl, current radeons or amd apus, and most new nvidias should work
[15:27] <peter-bittner> QUESTION: What percentage of Canonical is working / are focused on Ubuntu Touch? Just to give us a feeling...
[15:27] <LeHappyFrog> should :P
[15:28] <goddard> will ubuntu touch work with Nexus 6 CDMA ever?  Was that answered?
[15:29] <mhall119> goddard: IIRC, there was some copyright or licensing issues around CDMA, plus it's a deprecated technology, so it's probably not going to be worth the effort
[15:29] <nik90> jnxd: Pretty sure WPA(2) Entreprise support landed with OTA-5. I am able to connect to eduroam which uses WPA2 Entreprise.
[15:30] <jnxd> WPA2 enterprise needs a username and password rather than just a passkey
[15:30] <jnxd> The bug for proxy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1452291
[15:30] <goddard> mhall119: will ubuntu touch work with the Nexus 6 then?  It does have the ability to use GSM networks as well.
[15:30] <theBest> Could also connect to eduroam but only once. If I now put in the passwort it does not work anymore. Anoyone knows why?
[15:31] <nik90> jnxd: ok, so? You can still enter the username and password through the UI.
[15:31] <mhall119> goddard: if somebody ports it, sure, that's how the Nexus 5 got Ubuntu
[15:31] <ahayzen> nik90, eduroam \o/
[15:31] <davidcalle> re: WPA2, this bug implies it's been released https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1241986
[15:31] <bregma> SDL does not support GL|ES so it may never be ported to the phone:  SDL2 has a native Mir port so it should be easy
[15:31] <nik90> ahayzen: \o
[15:31] <jnxd> nik90: I cannot. I have to edit te file in etc/Net.../sys.../<Wifi_Name>
[15:32] <mhall119> LeHappyFrog: there are several SDL-based games for the phone in the store already
[15:32] <ahayzen> and yeah i've been using eduroam on my device all week, has a few quirks but it works, and you have to enter a username and password for that
[15:32] <LeHappyFrog> QUESTION: is there any support for gamepads in qml? i want to code a simple qml apps that uses the gamepad in qml
[15:32] <LeHappyFrog> mhall119: yes but there is no official template
[15:33] <mhall119> LeHappyFrog: ah, I see what you're saying, file a wish-list bug against lp:ubuntu-sdk to create one
[15:33] <goddard> mhall119: i am no expert on phones but i heard on xda it is a problem with lollipop?
[15:33] <LeHappyFrog> i will :D thanks michael :P
[15:33] <mhall119> goddard: could be, I don't think we're using the latest Android kernel for our images, and the Nexus 6 probably requires it
[15:34] <nik90> jnxd: no idea why..When I first connected with my university eduroam wifi, it prompted me for username, password and other details necessary to connect to it via WPA 2 Entreprise.
[15:34] <nik90> jnxd: now that you know that WPA 2 Entreprise support landed, it is best to report a bug for your case.
[15:34] <nik90> but support in the UI has definitely landed for a long time.
[15:35] <goddard> mhall119: damn wish some one knew :D
[15:36] <LeHappyFrog> QUESTION: i've seen so many people running ubuntu/unity7 on surface, nvidia shield, random chinese intel tables, when will they be able to run unity8 on them
[15:36] <jnxd> nik90: I'll have to check the reproducibility. could just be that it was already saved and so it didn't ask me
[15:37] <nik90> jnxd: I did just notice now that I cannot edit the username of the connection that I already have saved. The only way is to forget the network and start from scratch.
[15:37] <davidcalle> QtGamepad -> QML (french) https://guillaumebelz.wordpress.com/2013/11/18/qt-gamepad-utilisation-du-gamepad-en-qml/
[15:37] <LeHappyFrog> i love le french :D thanks
[15:37] <amp> QUESTION:  How is it different to run legacy X11 apps on X11/Unity7 and running them on (X)Mir/Unity8, security wise? How are the apps isolated? How do you compare the protection level from proprietary apps? (For example apps spying on my personal data from filesystem/other apps/etc. on X11/Unity7 and Mir/Unity8)?
[15:38] <davidcalle> Le QtGamepad :)
[15:38] <jnxd> nik90: I'm more concerned with the proxy trouble. WPA2 Ent. is one time only, but I'll have to change proxy often if I get a data plan or use somewhere else's wifi
[15:38] <nik90> jnxd: pretty sure proxy support hasn't landed afaik. so :/
[15:38] <LeHappyFrog> :)) davidcalle
[15:39] <jnxd> nik90: you can't change the personal one's passkey too. try making a hotspot on your PC.
[15:40] <nik90> jnxd: true. I suspect editing network connections UI needs to be implemented.
[15:41] <bregma> amp, legacy apps on Unity8 are isolated by running confined in a container with separate XMir instances for each application and apparmor guarding other infrastructure
[15:41] <LeHappyFrog> QUESTION: any plans for a snappy based x86 tablet (that can run steam). basically i want a tablet that i can use as a gaming console with a gamepad on bluetooth. how well does xmir performs? like running dota2
[15:43] <suman> hallo
[15:43] <davidcalle> LeHappyFrog, actually, dota2 doesn't need xmir, it can run natively on mir https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAWVFAIaleQ :)
[15:43] <bregma> LeHappyFrog, our tests show DOTA2 runs just great on XMir on x86 using a regular desktop
[15:43] <peter-bittner> QUESTION: Could we have an on-air session with the Ubuntu design team? To help better understand the design decisions and the roadmap we should expect.
[15:43] <davidcalle> bregma, oh, was it xmir in the video ? ^
[15:44] <LeHappyFrog> uuu nice :D
[15:44] <anpok> sdl2 on mir
[15:44] <bregma> davidcalle, no, it was Mir, but there are issues running Steam without XMir
[15:44] <davidcalle> bregma, oh, right
[15:44] <bregma> the Steam client itself
[15:44] <LeHappyFrog> QUESTION: is it possible to copy paste from xmir to a qml app?
[15:45] <LeHappyFrog> this is probably the best ubuntuonair video :))
[15:47] <dpm> peter-bittner, good idea, we'll note it down as our next guest suggestions
[15:48] <amp> QUESTION:  How is it different to run legacy X11 apps on X11/Unity7 and running them on (X)Mir/Unity8, security wise? How are the apps isolated? How do you compare the protection level from proprietary apps? (For example apps spying on my personal data from filesystem/other apps/etc. on X11/Unity7 and Mir/Unity8)?
[15:51] <nik90> LeHappyFrog: Dota 2 is based on Source 2 which will support Vulkan API which in turn *should* well in Wayland/Mir.
[15:52] <LeHappyFrog> thanks! :D
[15:53] <LeHappyFrog> please invite Kevin Gunn more often :D
[15:53] <dpm> :-)
[15:53] <dpm> we'll do :)
[15:53] <LeHappyFrog> he's pretty cool :D all ubuntu devs are ;D
[15:53] <LeHappyFrog> but ogra is the best
[15:53] <LeHappyFrog> #1
[15:54] <kgunn> yes ogra is undeniably the best ;)
[15:55] <LeHappyFrog> :P
[15:55] <popey> haha
[15:56] <jnxd> QUESTION: In one of the earlier episodes, there was a mention of someone providing theme suggestions for ub. phone. Can you recall where I can find that?
[15:56] <LeHappyFrog> if you encounter bugs, i think it's safe to just blame popey
[15:56] <popey> so they say
[15:56] <LeHappyFrog> :d
[15:56] <user20> Question Is there any image for the desktop with unity 8 available for testing, which is newer than May 2015?
[15:57] <bregma> user20, no, the desktop-next images was discontinued, and the Ubuntu Personal is not yet ready
[15:58] <user20> ok thanks
[15:58] <davidcalle> user20, no image, but a package: http://askubuntu.com/questions/447891/how-to-install-unity-8
[16:00] <user20> ok then I will test that, thanks
[16:01] <Thibaut> QUESTION: Will there be a new set of desktop widgets for convergent apps?
[16:02] <mhall119> Thibaut: they are in the works, just starting to land
[16:02] <nik90> Thibaut: desktop widgets?
[16:02] <mhall119> Thibaut: such as https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/blog/2015/08/10/adaptive-page-layouts/
[16:02] <Thibaut> Yes desktop widgets
[16:02] <Thibaut> no
[16:03] <Thibaut> widgets for an app, like a button or drop-down
[16:03] <mhall119> Thibaut: right, adaptive page layouts are layout components for desktop apps, buttons should be the same, drop-downs are being re-designed for desktop use too
[16:03] <mhall119> menu widgets are also being worked on
[16:04] <nik90> Thibaut: at the moment, the swipe delete actions convert to a right-click menu for list items.
[16:04] <mhall119> all of the existing components are being reviewed for desktop usecases
[16:04] <nik90> that work is definitely being worked on at the moment.
[16:04] <Thibaut> what about the header-bar?
[16:04] <mhall119> Thibaut: see the link I posted, it shows a little of that
[16:04] <nik90> well header-bar works nicely with the adaptivepagelayout that mhall119 linked
[16:05] <nik90> apps still don't have traditional menus
[16:05] <mhall119> there are more designs for handling header actions in a desktop environment too
[16:05] <nik90> but that's requires deeper support from the platform.
[16:05] <mhall119> Thibaut: remember that the goal is same-code, same-widgets, every-device, so there won't be a separate set of widgets for the desktop
[16:05] <dpm> thanks everyone!
[16:06] <Thibaut> Yes and thats why I did wonder when the desktop version of widgets land
[16:07] <Thibaut> thx for the info
[16:07] <davidcalle> Thibaut, there is going to be adaptative widgets, eg. list items you slide left and right on the phone for options, will be replaced by right clicks options on desktop.
[16:08] <davidcalle> Thibaut, look for the ubuntu-ui-toolkit project on Launchpad, there is a "staging" PPA that allows you to follow it quite closely (usung Ubuntu.Components 1.3 in QML)
[16:08] <davidcalle> using*
[19:04] <fahim> when ubuntu phone will be released in Asian country like Bangladesh?