=== Malsasa is now known as Guest40949 === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa [15:01] o/ [15:01] o/ [15:01] hi all! [15:01] !start [15:01] hello everyone! [15:01] hey all [15:01] hi guys [15:01] about to start in a minute [15:02] i have countless QUESTIONS :prefix: [15:03] Live stream is starting soon [15:04] QUESTION: what is the status of non intel drivers for mir/unity8? i have a really bad time running unity8 on amd/nvidia [15:04] stream working [15:05] yeah! [15:05] thanks LeHappyFrog, we'll take your question next :) [15:06] thanks for confirming the stream works [15:06] QUESTION: How will a ubuntu store look/work with all the snapy apps in it for different devices like phone, desktop, mycroft, robots, fridges... [15:06] :D works for me [15:08] QUESTION is possible to develop apps for ubuntu phone on other ubuntu based distros like Ubuntu MATE, lubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu etc [15:09] QUESTION: Raspberry Pi got official touchscreen display. What about Ubuntu touch support for Raspberry Pi 2? It'd be great I think. [15:11] QUESTION: how do i install ubuntu snappy personal on a spare partition? the image doesn't appear to have an installer [15:12] QUESTION: Can you maybe talk a bit about testing and QA of Mir and Unity8 and how it changed over time and how good things are working nowadays? [15:13] QUESTION: Can you explain the timeline and steps that will eventually give me a stable Unity 8 based desktop on which I can use all my current programs. I have been committed to always running the default desktop 6 month releases, how will my life evolve over the next few years? [15:13] QUESTION: will you consider to officialy support ubuntu touch on Nexus 5 in the future since Nexus 4 is getting pretty old? [15:14] QUESTION: how one install and test Unity8? [15:15] Question : Hello, I'd like to ask if you guys are developing ubuntu touch for Samsung smart phones? Right now it is available in very limited devices and think Ubuntu can and have a fair chance to compete with Cyanogen on alternate Operating System on smart phones market. Thank you. [15:15] QUESTION: Is there still work ongoing to add libinput support to mir. [15:17] QUESTION: Any news on the work on getting proxy and WPA(2) Enterprise working with ubuntu touch? As of now, I am only able to access net on the browser and webviews, and that too after much cli-foo. [15:17] thanks everyone for the great questions! [15:19] QUESTION: lots of games are made in SDL/SDL2. are there plans to help those devs to easily port the games to ubuntu phone? maybe official SDL templates in SDK? [15:21] QUESTION: How is the work with the design team? Do you only code what they give you or do you code/design something for yourselfe and than show the design team what you came up with? [15:23] QUESTION: any plans for ubuntu game center? i probably has the best score in Falldown game but nobody can see it :(. maybe a simple api so you can send scores using ubuntu one [15:24] on desktop :D [15:25] apt-get install unity8-desktop-session-mir [15:25] ^^ ok thanks, on intel only, right? [15:26] LeHappyFrog: on mesa based graphics drivers [15:26] but thanks :P [15:26] i can challange you on that :D [15:26] ---> http://askubuntu.com/questions/447891/how-to-install-unity-8 [15:26] http://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/ [15:26] LeHappyFrog: i.e. kvm-qxl, current radeons or amd apus, and most new nvidias should work [15:27] QUESTION: What percentage of Canonical is working / are focused on Ubuntu Touch? Just to give us a feeling... [15:27] should :P [15:28] will ubuntu touch work with Nexus 6 CDMA ever? Was that answered? [15:29] goddard: IIRC, there was some copyright or licensing issues around CDMA, plus it's a deprecated technology, so it's probably not going to be worth the effort [15:29] jnxd: Pretty sure WPA(2) Entreprise support landed with OTA-5. I am able to connect to eduroam which uses WPA2 Entreprise. [15:30] WPA2 enterprise needs a username and password rather than just a passkey [15:30] The bug for proxy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1452291 [15:30] mhall119: will ubuntu touch work with the Nexus 6 then? It does have the ability to use GSM networks as well. [15:30] Could also connect to eduroam but only once. If I now put in the passwort it does not work anymore. Anoyone knows why? [15:31] jnxd: ok, so? You can still enter the username and password through the UI. [15:31] goddard: if somebody ports it, sure, that's how the Nexus 5 got Ubuntu [15:31] nik90, eduroam \o/ [15:31] re: WPA2, this bug implies it's been released https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1241986 [15:31] SDL does not support GL|ES so it may never be ported to the phone: SDL2 has a native Mir port so it should be easy [15:31] ahayzen: \o [15:31] nik90: I cannot. I have to edit te file in etc/Net.../sys.../ [15:32] LeHappyFrog: there are several SDL-based games for the phone in the store already [15:32] and yeah i've been using eduroam on my device all week, has a few quirks but it works, and you have to enter a username and password for that [15:32] QUESTION: is there any support for gamepads in qml? i want to code a simple qml apps that uses the gamepad in qml [15:32] mhall119: yes but there is no official template [15:33] LeHappyFrog: ah, I see what you're saying, file a wish-list bug against lp:ubuntu-sdk to create one [15:33] mhall119: i am no expert on phones but i heard on xda it is a problem with lollipop? [15:33] i will :D thanks michael :P [15:33] goddard: could be, I don't think we're using the latest Android kernel for our images, and the Nexus 6 probably requires it [15:34] jnxd: no idea why..When I first connected with my university eduroam wifi, it prompted me for username, password and other details necessary to connect to it via WPA 2 Entreprise. [15:34] jnxd: now that you know that WPA 2 Entreprise support landed, it is best to report a bug for your case. [15:34] but support in the UI has definitely landed for a long time. [15:35] mhall119: damn wish some one knew :D [15:36] QUESTION: i've seen so many people running ubuntu/unity7 on surface, nvidia shield, random chinese intel tables, when will they be able to run unity8 on them [15:36] nik90: I'll have to check the reproducibility. could just be that it was already saved and so it didn't ask me [15:37] jnxd: I did just notice now that I cannot edit the username of the connection that I already have saved. The only way is to forget the network and start from scratch. [15:37] QtGamepad -> QML (french) https://guillaumebelz.wordpress.com/2013/11/18/qt-gamepad-utilisation-du-gamepad-en-qml/ [15:37] i love le french :D thanks [15:37] QUESTION: How is it different to run legacy X11 apps on X11/Unity7 and running them on (X)Mir/Unity8, security wise? How are the apps isolated? How do you compare the protection level from proprietary apps? (For example apps spying on my personal data from filesystem/other apps/etc. on X11/Unity7 and Mir/Unity8)? [15:38] Le QtGamepad :) [15:38] nik90: I'm more concerned with the proxy trouble. WPA2 Ent. is one time only, but I'll have to change proxy often if I get a data plan or use somewhere else's wifi [15:38] jnxd: pretty sure proxy support hasn't landed afaik. so :/ [15:38] :)) davidcalle [15:39] nik90: you can't change the personal one's passkey too. try making a hotspot on your PC. [15:40] jnxd: true. I suspect editing network connections UI needs to be implemented. [15:41] amp, legacy apps on Unity8 are isolated by running confined in a container with separate XMir instances for each application and apparmor guarding other infrastructure [15:41] QUESTION: any plans for a snappy based x86 tablet (that can run steam). basically i want a tablet that i can use as a gaming console with a gamepad on bluetooth. how well does xmir performs? like running dota2 [15:43] hallo [15:43] LeHappyFrog, actually, dota2 doesn't need xmir, it can run natively on mir https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAWVFAIaleQ :) [15:43] LeHappyFrog, our tests show DOTA2 runs just great on XMir on x86 using a regular desktop [15:43] QUESTION: Could we have an on-air session with the Ubuntu design team? To help better understand the design decisions and the roadmap we should expect. [15:43] bregma, oh, was it xmir in the video ? ^ [15:44] uuu nice :D [15:44] sdl2 on mir [15:44] davidcalle, no, it was Mir, but there are issues running Steam without XMir [15:44] bregma, oh, right [15:44] the Steam client itself [15:44] QUESTION: is it possible to copy paste from xmir to a qml app? [15:45] this is probably the best ubuntuonair video :)) [15:47] peter-bittner, good idea, we'll note it down as our next guest suggestions [15:48] QUESTION: How is it different to run legacy X11 apps on X11/Unity7 and running them on (X)Mir/Unity8, security wise? How are the apps isolated? How do you compare the protection level from proprietary apps? (For example apps spying on my personal data from filesystem/other apps/etc. on X11/Unity7 and Mir/Unity8)? [15:51] LeHappyFrog: Dota 2 is based on Source 2 which will support Vulkan API which in turn *should* well in Wayland/Mir. [15:52] thanks! :D [15:53] please invite Kevin Gunn more often :D [15:53] :-) [15:53] we'll do :) [15:53] he's pretty cool :D all ubuntu devs are ;D [15:53] but ogra is the best [15:53] #1 [15:54] yes ogra is undeniably the best ;) [15:55] :P [15:55] haha [15:56] QUESTION: In one of the earlier episodes, there was a mention of someone providing theme suggestions for ub. phone. Can you recall where I can find that? [15:56] if you encounter bugs, i think it's safe to just blame popey [15:56] so they say [15:56] :d [15:56] Question Is there any image for the desktop with unity 8 available for testing, which is newer than May 2015? [15:57] user20, no, the desktop-next images was discontinued, and the Ubuntu Personal is not yet ready [15:58] ok thanks [15:58] user20, no image, but a package: http://askubuntu.com/questions/447891/how-to-install-unity-8 [16:00] ok then I will test that, thanks [16:01] QUESTION: Will there be a new set of desktop widgets for convergent apps? [16:02] Thibaut: they are in the works, just starting to land [16:02] Thibaut: desktop widgets? [16:02] Thibaut: such as https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/blog/2015/08/10/adaptive-page-layouts/ [16:02] Yes desktop widgets [16:02] no [16:03] widgets for an app, like a button or drop-down [16:03] Thibaut: right, adaptive page layouts are layout components for desktop apps, buttons should be the same, drop-downs are being re-designed for desktop use too [16:03] menu widgets are also being worked on [16:04] Thibaut: at the moment, the swipe delete actions convert to a right-click menu for list items. [16:04] all of the existing components are being reviewed for desktop usecases [16:04] that work is definitely being worked on at the moment. [16:04] what about the header-bar? [16:04] Thibaut: see the link I posted, it shows a little of that [16:04] well header-bar works nicely with the adaptivepagelayout that mhall119 linked [16:05] apps still don't have traditional menus [16:05] there are more designs for handling header actions in a desktop environment too [16:05] but that's requires deeper support from the platform. [16:05] Thibaut: remember that the goal is same-code, same-widgets, every-device, so there won't be a separate set of widgets for the desktop [16:05] thanks everyone! [16:06] Yes and thats why I did wonder when the desktop version of widgets land [16:07] thx for the info [16:07] Thibaut, there is going to be adaptative widgets, eg. list items you slide left and right on the phone for options, will be replaced by right clicks options on desktop. [16:08] Thibaut, look for the ubuntu-ui-toolkit project on Launchpad, there is a "staging" PPA that allows you to follow it quite closely (usung Ubuntu.Components 1.3 in QML) [16:08] using* === p is now known as Guest26297 [19:04] when ubuntu phone will be released in Asian country like Bangladesh?