=== infinity1 is now known as infinity === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === sil2100_ is now known as sil2100 === dandrader_ is now known as dandrader|afk [15:43] greyback: I know it isn't your top priority (yet), but I'd like feedback on these questions before investing more time: https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/mir/MirBlob/+merge/269949/comments/682826 === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:20] hello, is there a mir version of java? [17:35] zzarr, there arent mirclient api binding for java that I know of, although maybe a supported toolkit would have those bindings [17:36] okey, but xmir+java for x should work [17:38] at that level, its more a question of whether X+java will work right, but sure :) [17:40] I have a Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition, how do I install xmir? [17:42] I run a stable release on it (OTA-6) [17:50] zzarr: well if you just want to test stuff you can make the system image writable and apt-get install xmir [17:50] okey [17:50] but I dont know whether the pixelformat issues were resolved yet [17:50] robert_ancell who just left would know better [17:50] how do I test it? [17:50] okey [17:51] you would start an Xmir instanec with: Xmir :0 -damage -mirSocket /run/user//mir_socket -mirAppId app-dialer [17:52] oops [17:52] s/mirAppid/mir [17:52] and then launch an application with DISPLAY=:0 some_application [17:52] okey, thanks :) === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [17:53] then what could possibly happen .. since there is no x window manager involved you get odd looking windows (you could launch something like unity7 though.. ) [17:53] and you application might try to access stuff that is not allowed in ubuntu touch [17:54] okey [17:54] can I use a chrooted environment? [17:54] there is also a project called libertine that does exactly that with a container [17:54] and ChrisTownsend and bregma work on that right now. [17:54] nice [17:57] XMir on the phones is still problematic: color format support and stray GLX calls are some of the problems [17:58] not to mention that it will trash your install :) [17:58] color format is a recurring issue [17:58] (i.e. no proper upgrade mechanism after you installed debs ... needs re-flashing yadda yadda) [17:58] in that case I'll skip it until it's fixed [18:00] if it's not possible to run Xmir from a chroot (I think it's just a matter of bind mounting the correct file) [18:03] i would think so too [18:04] cairo on the phone has that color format issue too... we need a abgr support .. or was it bgra [18:04] and of course what ogra_ said.. [18:05] well, chroot might work. lxc container too ... (though i think you cant run lxc as user) [18:05] yes, sounds like what we need [18:06] ogra_, when's the next OTA? [18:06] zzarr, no idea :) [18:07] okey [18:08] usermode LXC won't work on the phone because it requires a much newer kernel [18:09] okey, ogra_ if I change password, will that do something nasty to my pincode? [18:09] you mean from cmdline ? [18:09] yes [18:10] yeah, that would likely break ... you can switch the system to pw auth via the UI ... that should work then [18:10] okey [18:10] or is there a better way to make a ssh login possible with password? [18:10] the UI needs to know the auth method ... while the actual password db is used the UI wont give you the right input if you just change it underneath [18:11] oh [18:11] that wont work unless you hack the sshd setup [18:11] it is hardcoded to key auth [18:11] I can't change /etc/ssh/sshd_config ? [18:12] that is readonly and gets reverted on upgrade ... [18:12] okey [18:12] we set the configs in the ssh.override upstart job (but that will also be reverted on upgrade if you change it) [18:12] why not use a key ? [18:13] thats a lot safer [18:13] okey, how do I do that? [18:13] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys [18:13] thanks [18:18] I know I have asked before, but where's the wishlist for phone? === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader