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valoriedoctor who event tonight!01:42
valorie\o/01:42
ahoneybun so the daily from monday installer crashed before I even started02:29
mparilloThis it? https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?68163-Be-Wily-and-Enjoy-the-Progress-of-Kubuntu-15-10&p=379554&viewfull=1#post37955402:42
ahoneybunI grab the iso and threw it in a VM02:42
ahoneybunthe first line was about OEM config02:42
ahoneybunmaybe some changes sitter did at randa02:43
ahoneybunmparillo: here is the long from a build today (9/16/15) https://notes.kde.org/p/DailyInstallerCrash03:52
ahoneybun*log03:52
ahoneybunI got it to start with running it from konsole03:57
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: UCC nominations happening04:48
ovidiu-florinyou interested?04:48
sitteryofel: 07:16
sitterStarted 10 hr ago07:16
sitterBuild has been executing for 10 hr07:16
valoriewow07:19
viphm, where i can set two-click-open-folder behavior?07:38
vipbecause I've always had two-click to open, after vivid->wily upgrade, it is one-click-to-open07:39
vipoh, "mouse settings"07:43
valorievip: this chan is for development07:44
valoriesupport in #kubuntu07:44
yofelsitter: kill it, clivejo wanted to upload applications, but I'm not sure if he actually got to do it08:17
yofelkilled it08:19
sitteryou really must not let CI pause over night08:19
sitterit basically backs everything up by a day08:19
yofeloh ok, sorry08:19
sitterhttp://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/akonadi.git/log/?h=kubuntu_wily_archive08:46
sittersomeone needs to fix that script08:46
yofelhm... I did take a look at that a long time ago, seems like dch is still being run incorrectly o.O09:00
yofeland the push semantics are still wrong in that one. --nopush should be --push and the default be the other way around09:01
sitterthis patch is getting on my nerves09:08
clivejoRiddell: the staging failed towards the end, I have no idea what happened it09:11
clivejogot up to ktnef and it went haywire09:13
Riddellclivejo: I'll try it then09:32
Riddellclivejo: did you get anywhere with frameworks?09:32
clivejothink I fixed khtml with yofel's help09:33
clivejoRiddell: can I retry it again?09:34
clivejoit I remove ~/src/applications and restart it?09:35
clivejowasnt a good idea doing it in evening time on this internet connection09:35
Riddellclivejo: just start from where it broke09:35
Riddellclivejo: remove the lines in package-name-lists/applications-wily up to ktnef09:36
clivejowas just going to ask was that possible09:36
clivejoif I leave ktnef there and let it try again?09:37
Riddellyes09:37
Riddellmaybe rm -r  ~/src/applications/ktnef09:37
clivejocould have been internet related09:37
clivejodone09:37
clivejoyeah same crazyness09:38
clivejohttps://paste.kde.org/ptnfmdaet09:39
clivejoit has a blank epoch09:40
clivejocouldnt see that last night09:40
clivejoRiddell: ^09:43
clivejowhere does it pick up the epoch from?09:47
sitterRiddell, clivejo: kindly note that gpgmepp needs a nwe upload09:48
Riddellclivejo: the no-epoch file lists packages which are new so don't need and shouldn't get an epoch10:20
clivejoI dont understand?10:21
Riddellclivejo: in kubuntu-automation there's a file no epoch10:21
Riddellno-epoch10:21
Riddellit lists some pacakges which don't need an epoch10:21
Riddellah but ktnef does need an epoch10:21
Riddellso that should be fixed, just remove it from the no-epoch file10:22
clivejoI cant find a no-epoch file 10:22
clivejoah10:23
clivejopackaging-exceptions.json10:23
Riddellah right yes that's where it ended up10:25
clivejook, picking up where I left off10:25
clivejoFFS10:25
clivejoI HATE gpg-agent10:25
* yofel only just realized what happened to akonadi10:28
yofelwtf10:28
clivejowhat happened?10:29
yofelhttp://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/akonadi.git/log/?h=kubuntu_wily_archive10:29
yofela) that shouldn't be there 3 times, b) the version is wrong10:29
yofelI totally didn't see the version when sitter pointed that out earlier10:29
sitterthrow away that script already and build something in jenkins :P10:30
sitterI have first class version handling classes you know ;)10:30
yofelyeah, but that's ruby10:30
sitterwhich is probably why my code doesn't come up with wrong changelog entries :P10:31
clivejohow on earth did that happen?10:31
yofelwhere is that version in the changelog entry even coming from o.O10:32
yofelthat shouldn't be there10:32
yofelclivejo: are you overriding the changelog message?10:33
clivejoah man, I have a typo in the changelog message10:34
clivejo./staging-upload -d wily -v 15.08.1 -m "New upstream release (15.18.1)" -r applications -t /home/clivejo/src/applications/10:35
yofelyou don't usually put the version in there, if anything, it should say "New upstream bugfix release"10:35
sitterone more reason to move this into a jenkins :P10:36
sitterless opportunity for human error10:37
* sitter is under the impression that the KCI build queue is growing rather than shrinking10:37
clivejoyofel: how do I fix this?10:37
yofelclivejo: fix the changelog in each package by hand10:37
yofelor write a script for it10:38
Riddellbash for loops may help10:38
sitterbash never helps.10:38
yofelwell, he has to delete the old messages10:38
sitterI'd rewrite the entry TBH10:38
sitterwhich requires python10:38
yofelyou can do that?10:38
Riddellfor asdf in */; do cd ${asdf}; sed s,15.18.1,15.08.1, debian/changelog; cd ..; done10:38
yofelah10:38
yofelRiddell: that won't fix the message being there 3 times10:39
sitterFWIW its not the first time we have duplicated messages10:39
Riddellach when that happens I just leave it10:39
sitterso perhaps we should just not care :P10:39
Riddellhappens quite a lot10:39
yofelI don't see what's wrong with the regex for tha though (other than it being a regex)10:39
* clivejo is extremely sorry10:39
yofelright, and I find that seriously annoying10:39
yofelclivejo: well, the multiple messages isn't exactly your fault10:40
yofelit's a combination of you re-running the script, the script pushing immediately and the don't-add-changelog-twice regex not doing it's job10:40
Riddellclivejo: want me to upload frameworks?10:40
sitterI think once I argued that it shouldn't do the push right away anyway10:41
clivejoRiddell: have they been tested?10:41
Riddellclivejo: nope, I'll do that first of course10:41
Riddell!testers 10:41
ubottutesters is Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31, vip, mparillo for information10:41
sitterideally the script would create an integration branch for the specific version as to avoid push clashes10:41
sitterthen push that instead10:41
Riddellframeworks http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.14.0_wily.html testers!10:41
sitteronce uploading to archvie the branches can then be merged in one go10:41
yofelgood idea actually, that could at least be easily reverted10:42
clivejoso what do I need to do then?10:43
yofelthat bash loop that Riddell posted looks pretty sane, run that10:43
Riddellwell test it first :)10:44
clivejobut how does that fix debian git changelogs?10:44
yofelyou'll need to adjust the path for that, and add git commit and push10:45
mparilloTo test, add to wily: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-frameworks/+packages ?10:45
yofelassuming you still have the temp folder you worked on till now10:45
clivejothe src?10:46
clivejosrc/applications/10:46
Riddellmparillo: yep10:46
yofelright, /home/clivejo/src/applications/10:46
clivejoso grab a backup of that folder, just in case?10:48
yofelyeah, do that for testing10:50
clivejook Ive got ~/backup/src/applications10:50
clivejoshould I remove the upload and manual folders?10:53
sitterRiddell, yofel, clivejo: random note, the commit for fixing the changelog message needs to be commited NOCI10:54
mparilloFunny, krunner crashed as muon was applying the updates to frameworks. I did not even have krunner open.10:54
lordievaderRiddell: The testing approach is adding the staging-frameworks ppa and upgrade on wily?10:55
yofeloh great, the parentheses in the message break the regex, that's why the message is there multiple times10:55
yofelhurray to regexp10:56
sitterlol10:56
clivejo:(10:57
sgclarkMy Wily is still non functional :( guess I need to reinstall10:57
clivejoI thought I was being good being more detailed in commit and changelogs10:57
yofelheh, well, you found a bug in the script ^^10:58
clivejopure stupidity on my part 10:59
yofelnot really, when I wrote that check, I didn't think someone would do that because nobody usually does that11:00
yofelyou were just the first one to do it ^^11:00
sitteryofel: write a test!11:01
yofelthat's actually a good idea.....11:01
sitterhuh11:04
clivejook I run that for loop Riddell posted11:04
clivejobut run it on git/debian11:05
clivejosome have worked, others not11:05
clivejoif I used that script to run nano on the changelog instead and just fix the file manually?11:06
yofelactually, thinking about it, this is a bit crazy: re.match(".*New upstream release (15.18.1).*", re.match(pattern, changelog).group(0), re.DOTALL)11:06
yofelre.match(pattern, changelog).group(0).find("New upstream release (15.18.1)") might be less error-prone11:06
mparilloOK Frameworks updates are complete. Re-booting.11:10
Riddellthelionroars: want to test frameworks?11:10
sitteryofel: looks equally mental :P11:13
yofelsitter: well, I'm reducing the regex matching from 2 to 1. re.match(pattern, changelog).group(0) gives the full first changelog entry11:14
sittershadeslayer: please merge your docker branch with logging additions I just did to kci/mgmt/docker.rb11:14
yofelalso needs a test11:14
clivejook, so I made a test folder11:21
clivejoremoved manual and upload folders11:22
clivejorun for asdf in */; do cd ${asdf}; sed -i 's/15.18.1/15.08.1/g' git/debian/changelog; cd ..; done11:22
mparilloI added the frameworks PPA to Muon Update Manager, applied the updates (random crashes); restarted (had to hard power off); and powered-on. Wireless, konversation, and rekonq seem to work. How do I know I really have the frameworks update completed?11:22
clivejothe run the same again only running nano, manually editting the repeat lines from the changelogs11:23
sitterthe slideshow font hinting is god awful11:27
sitterahoneybun: https://goo.gl/photos/F53FVYuoUQdmxubb911:35
Riddellahoneybun: what happened to your muon slideshow update? I forget11:48
ahoneybunRiddell: it has not been approved12:00
Riddellahoneybun: where is it again?12:01
* Riddell pauses CI for frameworks upload12:01
ahoneybunhttps://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+archive/ubuntu/muon-discover12:01
sitterRiddell: NOCI?12:02
clivejogit -a -m "NOCI"12:02
clivejo?12:03
sitter-m "uploading to archive\nNOCI"12:03
sitterRiddell: ^12:07
Riddellsitter: but what's your point?12:08
yofelyou don't need to pause CI with that12:08
Riddellgood to know12:09
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sitteralso you don't cause pointless builds12:11
yofelthinking about it, shouldn't staging upload use that too..........12:11
sitteryofel: staging uploads increase the version12:12
yofelthen why do we pause CI for that again?12:12
sitterso builds are run in order12:13
yofelah ok12:13
sittersince the sources are processed in an arbitrary order it might trigger plasma-framework before ECM which might then fail12:13
sitterwith pause you'd block all builds and then release them all at once letting jenkins build them accoridng to the dep tree12:14
sitterfancy version of the upload tiers we had 6 years ago12:14
clivejositter: I pushed one of the fixes, does it look ok? http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/akonadi.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_stable12:27
sitterclivejo: that NOCI went wrong xD12:29
lordievaderRiddell: Upgraded to the framework staging ppa, works fine.12:29
* clivejo cries12:30
clivejositter: whats gone wrong now?12:31
sitterapparently -m doesn't like nonprintable characters12:31
Riddelllordievader: lovely thanks :)12:32
Riddellmparillo: how was it for you?12:32
sitter[12:38] <sitter> bash never helps.12:32
sitterto quote myself here12:32
clivejolots of lessons today!12:35
Riddellclivejo: so just pause it?12:36
sitterthat solves nothing12:36
sitteronly queues 300 more builds12:37
sitternot that it matters because Riddell pushed without noci anyway12:38
sitterso it's busy until saturday anyway12:38
sitteralso failing12:38
clivejo I pushed one as test12:38
clivejocan I revert the commit locally and fix it?12:39
clivejofix the message I mean12:40
BluesKajHey all12:49
soeeRiddell: i have installed Framewroks 5.14, during unpacking packages kdeinit5 and krunner crashed but they start again13:21
soeeRiddell: but all update was just fine13:21
Riddellbut annoyingly there seems to be a problem in kservice13:36
Riddellahoneybun: kubuntu-settings uploaded!14:03
clivejoyofel: did you say you were applying a fix so that the script wont add dupes like this again?14:33
Riddellclivejo: yes he did14:49
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clivejoRiddell: would you add http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_15.08.1_wily.html to the topic please15:21
Riddellclivejo: I expect you can15:22
Riddellhave you tried?15:22
Riddellhello  Mandarina15:22
clivejome?15:23
clivejoI dont have the pwer15:23
MandarinaRiddell: Hi!15:23
RiddellMandarina: want to become an elite kubuntu ninja?15:24
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MandarinaRiddell: I'm not very sneaky.15:25
RiddellMandarina: that's ok, we do everything in the open :)15:30
clivejoRiddell: kde4libs is in manual, but cant see in in the depot download?15:31
clivejoor has it been renamed kdelibs-4.14.12.tar.xz15:31
Riddellit always is kdelibs, we rename it in debian/kubuntu15:33
clivejooh wait, I remember talk about this before15:33
clivejoso I bump the changelog to kde4libs (4:4.14.12-1ubuntu1~) UNRELEASED; urgency=medium15:37
clivejopush to debian git and ppa-build?15:37
Riddellclivejo: 4:4.14.12-0ubuntu1 in changelog15:48
clivejoRiddell: when I try to "git-buildpackage-ppa" kopete I get an error - Error: Distribution is not "UNRELEASED".15:48
Riddellyes keep it as UNRELEASED15:49
clivejoI didnt change it15:50
clivejoregarding kde4libs - tar: /home/clivejo/src/applications/manual/kde4libs/build-area/kde4libs_4.14.11.orig.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory15:51
clivejowhy is it looking for 4.14.11 when changeslog says .1215:52
Riddellgit-buildpackage is also spooky voodoo that likes to do that for some reason15:52
Riddellbut it should also get the .12 version15:52
clivejoits there15:53
clivejoI have to modifty the watch file15:53
clivejothe watch file is looking for kde4libs but the filename on depot of kdelibs15:53
clivejouscan is showing the new version and getting it15:54
Riddellah15:54
Riddellthen do fix that please15:54
clivejodoes git-buildpackage-ppa still go back to debian git?15:55
clivejoRiddell: in your changeset http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/kde4libs.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_wily_archive&id=2b026e149f0191a257483af8cb5419ece90f1a3c16:03
clivejoyou set the distribuation to wily16:03
Riddellclivejo: la la la16:03
clivejohow do I fix it?16:04
Riddellclivejo: what's wrong with it?16:04
Riddellclivejo: just add a new changelog entry with dch16:05
clivejoshouldnt it be UNRELEASED;?16:05
Riddellon your new entry yes16:08
clivejoNinja  voodoo 16:08
clivejook I think thats fixed16:10
clivejoand uploaded to PPA16:10
clivejokde-baseapps is the same16:14
clivejowhy is this?16:14
Riddellclivejo: they're in maintinance mode, no new features only bugfixes, so they don't get a new version number only the bugfix version changes16:17
clivejobut how did they get the release as wily in debian git?16:18
Riddellclivejo: the staging-upload script that you used should add the new changelog entries with UNRELEASED16:20
Riddellclivejo: then when it's all built and tested the next script is ubuntu-archive-upload16:20
Riddellwhich sets the changelog to wily16:20
clivejoit passed over these16:21
clivejoput them into manual16:21
Riddelloh it probably needs packaging-exceptions.json update first, I'll add that to README16:26
clivejoRiddell: have to go for a bit, will you be online later?16:30
Riddellclivejo: I'm out for the next 3 hours, probably back about 916:31
Riddellunless I'm not16:31
clivejoLOL16:31
clivejook16:31
Riddellhave fun on the farm :)16:31
clivejoindeed16:31
ahoneybunthanks Riddell also need to update this page desc: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/+source/kubuntu-settings18:29
ahoneybunremove active and netbootk18:29
ahoneybun*netbook18:29
clivejoRiddell yofel: Having problems with kmailtransport, can someone look at the error message and let me know whats wrong - https://paste.kde.org/pgph2lscn18:30
yofelahoneybun: that's extracted from the package18:30
yofelso it seems we still ship that..18:30
ahoneybunit's not in the package18:30
ahoneybunso it can't be18:30
ahoneybununless it is in a file I did not edit/know about18:31
yofelthey might be NBS..18:32
yofelyeah18:32
yofel kubuntu-settings | 1:15.10ubuntu1    | wily/universe           | source18:32
yofel kubuntu-settings-netbook | 1:15.04ubuntu2    | wily/universe           | all18:32
yofelneeds a binary removal request I think..18:32
ahoneybunmm18:33
yofelclivejo: that looks very wrong18:35
yofeldpkg-source: info: local changes detected, the modified files are:18:35
yofel kmailtransport-15.08.1/libkf5mailtransport5.symbols18:35
clivejoyofel: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/kmailtransport.git/tree/?h=kubuntu_wily_archive&id=abaf052b86e579b56e816c48df774d2e14abd57418:35
yofelsymbol file in wrong folder?18:35
clivejowhy isnt the symbols file in debian/18:35
yofelwhoever put it there messed up?18:35
clivejohow do I find out who did that?18:35
yofelhttp://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/kmailtransport.git/commit/libkf5mailtransport5.symbols?h=kubuntu_wily_archive&id=abaf052b86e579b56e816c48df774d2e14abd57418:36
clivejo:/18:36
yofeljust git mv the file18:39
clivejoyofel: will you ask him, I think Ive damaged enough things today :(18:40
yofeljust move the file, you can't really make unbuildable any worse :P18:40
clivejowant bet18:40
yofelno18:40
clivejoIm having a very bad day18:40
yofel^^18:40
clivejokmix has a problem with a patch18:47
clivejohttps://paste.kde.org/pujddxv7k18:48
yofeldrop the patch, upstream_ shows that it's a cherry-pick from kde git, and it's now included in the release18:50
BluesKajyeah kmix no longer shows up in the system tray, it's been replaced by that pulseaudio volume ctrl which does nothing since i don't use pulseaudio. I have kmix set to show ithe system tray, but it doesn't.18:51
clivejoshould I physically delete the file and series entry or just comment out the series entry?18:54
yofelgit rm the file and remove it from series18:54
clivejook18:54
yofeland say in the changelog that you're dropping <patchfile>, applied upstream18:55
clivejosorry, which patch kmix_showeverywhere.diff or upstream_fix-kmixui.rc-install-location.diff ?18:55
yofelI was talking about the upstream_ one, wasn't I?18:56
yofeland the log shows that it was the patch that it failed on18:56
clivejosorry, misread18:56
yofelwe usually prefix integration patches with kubuntu_ and upstream fixes with upstream_ and add DEP-3 headers for documentation18:57
yofelalso always put the filename in the changelog when you modify patches, so it's easy to track modifications to them later on18:58
yofelesp. when adding/removing them18:59
clivejoyofel: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/kmix.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_wily_archive&id=e5fe876d059d6a4090b30ba56651b5e51b90b52a hows that?19:02
yofelgood :)19:02
clivejolearned a lot today19:03
clivejoafter that stupid typo I made last night19:03
clivejoI think thats all the apps uploaded bar kde-l10n19:04
yofelthat shouldn't even be there.. I guess it can't keep files and folders apart when listing the packages :/19:05
clivejoit didnt do gpgmepp, killbots, syndication for some reason, they all still version 15.08.019:07
yofelare they in manual?19:08
clivejonope19:08
yofelo.O19:08
yofeldo you still have the script outoput?19:08
clivejoIve fixed all the manual ones bar kde-l10n19:09
yofelor rather, can you re-run the script on those packages?19:09
clivejooh wiat19:09
clivejothey are in applications19:09
clivejobut didnt get uploaded19:10
clivejoempty sources?19:10
yofeldunno, if they're not in manual then something happened that the script has no error handling for :/19:10
clivejoyeah strange19:10
clivejomight have been my internet19:11
clivejokillbots just dput fine19:11
yofelhm, tarball fetch failures are handled though19:12
clivejoare dput errors caught?19:12
yofelno, that's not part of the script19:13
yofelbut if the upload failed there will be no .upload file19:13
clivejoright, Ive reloaded those to LP19:13
yofelif the upload file was missing then it was an upload failure19:13
clivejorejected by LP19:15
yofelhuh, why?19:16
clivejosyndication_15.08.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa1.dsc: Version older than that in the archive. 15.08.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa1 <= 4:15.08.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa119:16
yofelurgh, the old packages are still in the PPA19:17
yofelyou'll have to delete those by hand19:17
clivejoif I upload PPA2?19:18
yofelno, no matter what you upload, the epoch will conflict19:18
yofelyou'll have to delete the packages from the PPA in the LP UI, then later upload again19:18
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ahoneybunyay the installer did not crash on first boot19:36
ahoneybunRiddell: do you know if sitter is going to make anymore changes in the installer or is it frozen?19:37
yofelwe can do bugfixes, but we're past UI freeze, so no visible changes anymore19:38
ahoneybunalright cool19:38
soeeRiddell: did you moved 5.14 to wily ?19:38
ahoneybunthanks yofel19:38
BluesKajredshift won't show unless installed with muon-discover 19:42
BluesKajaccording to a report 19:43
BluesKajwhat's happening with apt ?19:44
clivejoyofel: its seems to be a epoch issue20:07
yofelI said that it's an epoch issue...20:07
yofelyou can't upload the packages because the epoch of the packages in the PPA is higher20:08
clivejodidnt spot that20:08
yofelthat's why you first need to manually delete them20:08
clivejoshould I not add the epoch to this one?20:09
yofelno, those packages should not have an epoch20:09
clivejoisnt syndication 4:15.08.0 in backports?20:09
yofeldunno, I certainly hope not20:10
yofelthat's why you should not backport the staging packages :/20:11
yofelit's not, 15.08 was never backported20:12
yofelso the only people that will have upgrade issues are the wily staging PPA testers20:13
yofelacceptable collateral damage20:13
ahoneybunhttp://imgur.com/cS1Denm20:13
clivejowho is apachelogger?20:16
ahoneybunsitter20:16
clivejoI dont feel comfortable deleting packages uploaded by Riddell and sitter20:17
clivejoIll leave those few packages until another time20:17
yofeljust delete them if they're 15.08.020:18
yofelif you want, I can also completely wipe the whole PPA if you want to re-upload everything20:18
clivejothere are 15.07.90 versions of gpgmepp20:19
yofelthe only thing I'm trying to teach you is that epochs are a very scary thing and that you shouldn't use them unless absolutely necessary20:19
yofelthat's even older, kill it20:20
clivejoI know, thats why I dont want to touch anything20:20
yofelthinking about it, our epoch handling is completely wrong20:21
yofellisting packages without an epoch means that any unknown, new packages automatically get an epoch20:21
yofelwhich is the opposite of the intended behavior20:21
clivejobut why would Riddell and sitter upload versions with an epoch?20:23
clivejowhen it doesnt need it?20:23
yofelread what I just said20:23
yofelour script didn't know those packages, so it just added an epoch because they weren't in the no-epoch list20:24
clivejoohhh20:24
yofelbut new sources are not supposed to have an epoch20:24
clivejothats dangerious20:24
clivejothat is arse-about-face20:24
ahoneybuninstaller got stuck at 77% "running dpkg"20:27
yofelfile a bug from that system, that'll attach the apt logs20:28
clivejoif you can delete gpgmepp and syndication then that would allow me to upload these versions then?20:28
ahoneybunyofel: how do I start the bug report?20:29
ahoneybunapport something20:29
yofelubuntu-bug ubiquity20:29
ahoneybunwell then20:30
ahoneybunit just finished20:30
ahoneybunthe vm might have had lag20:30
yofelclivejo: they're deleted20:30
clivejook, will retry them in a bit20:30
yofeltry again, if they still get rejected we'll have to wait for the janitor20:30
clivejoyofel: Package has already been uploaded to ppa on ppa.launchpad.net20:31
yofeldput -f20:32
yofelor was that from LP?20:32
clivejonot sure, but -f worked20:32
yofeldput then20:32
ahoneybunvm booted up fine20:34
ahoneybunnice to see the audio widget is working now20:34
ahoneybunevery boot on my machine it is invisible20:35
ahoneybunand I have to disable it and reenable it20:35
clivejoyofel: do these two packages need added to no-epoch?20:37
yofelthey're already there20:38
yofeland I need to reverse that list anyway20:38
clivejowhy did they fail then during the staging run?20:38
clivejooh, you have made the changes20:38
yofelI did not20:38
yofelthey got rejected because nobody cleaned to PPA up20:39
yofelso their old, broken variants were still in there20:39
clivejoah20:39
yofelkubuntu-dev-tools has a script called klearppa, which can delete all packages in a PPA20:39
yofelthe LP UI is crap for that20:40
clivejoI did notice that20:40
clivejoI feel sorry for KCI21:20
geniiHeh, "Yippee, build fixed!"21:21
clivejo28 slots and 211 in the queue21:21
clivejoJenkins is a busy boy21:21
clivejosoee: ping21:22
Riddellhi clivejo, how's it going?21:28
* clivejo gunts21:28
clivejoits going21:28
clivejogrunts even21:28
clivejotrying to remember how this kde-l10n black magic works21:29
Riddelloh that's friendly voodoo21:29
clivejoI didnt take notes last time21:30
clivejoand was on the EC21:30
yofelRiddell: no-epoch-packages is for frameworks and applications, right?21:31
Riddellyep21:31
yofelurgh, that'll be a long list21:31
shadeslayerFeel sorry for Launchpad21:46
Riddellyofel: only 14 of them21:53
yofelRiddell: I just reversed that list, so it's now 28421:55
Riddellyofel: why would you do that?22:07
yofelRiddell: do you want another epoch mess like we had with 15.07.90?22:08
yofelhappened mostly because we have a blacklist, so I turned it into a whitelist22:08
yofelnot like the list will change much22:09
clivejois eu a language?22:32
shadeslayerWat22:36
clivejothere is a language pack called kde-l10n-eu22:37
clivejois it a language?22:37
yofelmaybe someone miswrote klingon..22:37
shadeslayerCould be something else22:38
shadeslayerBasque apparently22:39
shadeslayerHub22:39
shadeslayerEuskara22:39
shadeslayerHence ... eu22:39
yofelthey already don't want an es_ prefix?22:39
shadeslayerDude22:39
shadeslayerThey're not Spanish :P22:40
yofeloops22:40
shadeslayerLike the Catalans ;)22:40
yofeltoo late for geography lessons :P22:40
shadeslayerHehehe22:40
valorieeuskara is really interesting linguistically22:50
valorielots of borrow words from Spanish obviously, but from a totally unrelated language family22:51
Riddelllots of people being taught in a language their teachers don't know very well22:51
Riddellwhich is always interesting22:51
valorieI like seeing some languages being saved from extinction22:52
valorieit's happening around here a bit, with some of the indian tribes getting their kids out of white schools22:52
valorieand running their own public schools22:53
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