[04:50] <pitti> Good morning
[05:10] <didrocks> good morning
[05:33] <pitti> bonjour didrocks !
[05:40] <didrocks> salut pitti, ça va ?
[05:41] <pitti> didrocks: ça va bien ! j'ai joué au basket hier soir pour la première fois après les vacances d'été, je sense mes muscles :)
[05:41] <pitti> c'était grand
[05:44] <didrocks> ahah, j'imagine :)
[05:44]  * didrocks ne peut pas courir à cause du temps…
[05:44] <didrocks> beaucoup de vent et de pluie
[05:45] <pitti> didrocks: ah, quelle domage .. aujourd'hui on a du soleil à nouveau
[05:45] <pitti> "dommage", non ?
[05:45] <didrocks> "dommage", oui
[06:01] <hikiko> hello
[06:07] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[06:07] <seb128> hey hikiko
[06:07] <didrocks> re seb128, hey hikiko
[06:08] <seb128> desrt, Laney, larsu, could you look if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1495173 is a glib bug? Trevinho seems to think so (though he didn't comment on the bug to say so)
[06:13] <pitti> bonjour seb128, comment vas-tu ?
[06:14] <seb128> pitti, salut, ça va bien ! Et toi ?
[06:15] <pitti> seb128: je vais bien aussi ! je sense mes muscles, jouer au basket hier soir (la première fois après les vacances de l'été)
[06:15] <pitti> il a me manqué
[06:16] <pitti> ^ (is that right for "I missed it"?)
[06:16] <seb128> hehe, moi c'est pareil avec le tennis ;-)
[06:16] <pitti> seb128: ah, très bien ! ♥ sports
[06:16] <seb128> "ça m'a manqué"
[06:16] <seb128> il would be for somebody
[06:16] <pitti> ah
[06:16]  * TheMuso waves to deskoppers... some of whom are around early it seems. :)
[06:17] <pitti> TheMuso: the early bird .. can bite me .. or so :)
[06:17] <pitti> TheMuso: hey, how are you?
[06:18]  * pitti retreats again to spend a nice hour or two with his favorite girl britney
[06:18] <didrocks> hey TheMuso
[06:27] <TheMuso> pitti: Well thanks. :)
[06:37] <hikiko> hey didrocks seb128 pitti TheMuso etc sorry I was making coffee and missed the handshake :D how are you?
[06:37] <TheMuso> hikiko: Fine thanks.
[06:41] <pitti> hey hikiko! I'm great, thanks; how about yourself/
[06:42] <hikiko> i am good :)
[06:44] <seb128> hikiko, doing good thanks ;-)
[06:44] <hikiko> :D
[07:12] <larsu> good morning!
[07:12] <larsu> seb128: I can have a look
[07:12] <seb128> larsu, hey, thanks
[07:12] <pitti> it's a larsu ! *hug*
[07:12]  * larsu needs to make a tea first, though
[07:13] <larsu> guten morgen pitti  :)
[07:33]  * seb128 triages some of the unity bugs
[07:33] <larsu> this bug is ... tricky
[07:35] <seb128> larsu, do you see what's going on in there?
[07:36] <larsu> I"m trying to reproduce right now
[07:37] <larsu> it happens while writing the blacklist key
[07:37] <larsu> I wonder if that's a bug in gvariant
[07:37] <larsu> or if the variant that unity passes to dconf is corrupt
[07:40] <larsu> oh wow I can reproduce after trying it 20 times or so
[07:43] <larsu> ah, got it
[07:43] <larsu> it's using gvariant wrong
[07:48] <seb128> larsu, ah, Trevinho wrongly blaming glib then ;-)
[07:52] <larsu> seems like it
[07:52] <larsu> code looks good to me though
[07:52] <larsu> finding out where all these gvariant warnings are coming from
[07:55] <willcooke> hello you lot
[07:55] <TheMuso> Hey willcooke.
[07:55] <hikiko> hello willcooke
[07:55] <willcooke> evening TheMuso
[07:55] <willcooke> hey hikiko
[07:56] <hikiko> what's the name of the ubuntu kylin desktop channel? I didn't save it in my laptop and my desktop is pretty dead to start xchat atm
[07:57] <seb128> hey willcooke
[07:57] <willcooke> hikiko, #nudt-canonical
[07:57] <hikiko> thanks willcooke :)
[07:57] <willcooke> soooooo, back splatter from the Grand Closing....
[07:57] <willcooke> 1 bug
[07:58] <willcooke> from Chipaca, which I've added to the rls-w-incoming list
[07:58] <willcooke> pretty good so far I think
[07:58] <willcooke> seb128, looks like you've run a script to close all the fix released ones too
[07:58] <seb128> willcooke, no, just going through the New ones manually
[07:59] <willcooke> ohhh
[07:59] <seb128> started by the oldest ones
[07:59] <seb128> and quite were fix released for unity but not unity (ubuntu)
[07:59] <willcooke> thanks for doing that
[07:59] <seb128> why oh why do we have the duplicates upstream/ubuntu component :-/
[07:59] <seb128> yw!
[08:00] <willcooke> seb128, I wonder what our options are for fixing that.  Trevinho has a script which can make sure bugs are synced between the two lists, and then we could just blanked close all of one list?
[08:00] <willcooke> or remove from the affects list
[08:00] <seb128> willcooke, I was pondering the close, but it would create quite some noise, not sure if that's worth it
[08:02] <larsu> reassign?
[08:03] <Laney> morning
[08:03] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you?
[08:03] <seb128> larsu, reassign what to what?
[08:04] <larsu> seb128: one of the lists to the other
[08:04] <larsu> I think mpt was arguing for always using package bugs
[08:04] <seb128> right, that's what we do for other projects
[08:04] <seb128> the unity/compiz list are just busy enough that it would create quite some spam
[08:04] <seb128> unsure if that's worth it
[08:05] <larsu> fair enough
[08:06] <Laney> hey seb128 & larsu
[08:06] <Laney> doing PRETTY GOOD!
[08:06] <Laney> YOU?
[08:06] <larsu> awesome :)
[08:06]  * Laney has had two teas already
[08:06] <Laney> so I feel like TALKING IN CAPS A BIT
[08:06]  * larsu opens a window after building unity
[08:07] <Laney> oh, cool, thx for looking at that one
[08:07] <larsu> you're "welcome"
[08:07] <pitti> hey Laney, good morning!
[08:07] <seb128> Laney, doing good, thanks :-)
[08:08] <Laney> I did a source-only upload to Debian yesterday and it worked
[08:08] <Laney> we live in good times
[08:08] <Laney> hi pitti!
[08:10] <pitti> Laney: +1
[08:14] <hikiko> Trevinho, I can't reproduce the bug with the shadow... how many windows do I need?  I opened like 10 firefox windows yesterday :s
[08:14] <hikiko> do I need some plugin enabled?
[08:14] <hikiko> eg application switcher?
[08:15] <hikiko> (I tried with and without tbh)
[08:21]  * TheMuso -> EOD, night folks.
[08:23] <willcooke> cya TheMuso
[08:24] <Laney> late night TheMuso
[08:25] <Laney> actually it's not that late
[08:25] <Laney> interesting
[08:28] <larsu> hm, the crash I can reproduce has a vastly different stack trace
[08:29] <seb128> corruption?
[08:29] <seb128> oh, you mean compared to the one from the bug
[08:30] <seb128> not between retries
[08:30] <larsu> yes
[08:30] <Chipaca> willcooke: i back splattered wha?
[08:31] <willcooke> Chipaca, you complaining that bugs are still bugs and that we can't just ignore them.  sheesh.
[08:31] <Chipaca> willcooke: if it's about the email i forwarded you, my comment was that you were pointing to "errors.ubutnu.com"
[08:31] <willcooke> oh
[08:31] <willcooke> crap
[08:31] <Chipaca> willcooke: which is probably not where you were wanting to point them
[08:32] <Chipaca> willcooke: i'm fine with killing some bugs with fire :)
[08:32] <Chipaca> tried to point out a typo, is all
[08:32] <willcooke> Oh, got you - in which case, I will kill it
[08:32] <willcooke> and fix the typo
[08:33] <Laney> hmmmmm
[08:33] <seb128> ok, unity NEW 620 -> 507, not bad for an hour or so
[08:33] <seb128> time to make some coffee
[08:34] <willcooke> seb128, \o/
[08:35] <hikiko> I think I ll fix the cube textures and lighting until marco is back... I can't make that bug appear maybe my gpu is very new
[08:40] <larsu> hm, how do I run unity from inside the source tree?
[08:40]  * larsu has changes that are not picked up
[08:53] <seb128> larsu, dunno, maybe hikiko can help you?
[08:53] <seb128> since Trevinho seems not to be around yet
[08:54] <hikiko> larsu,
[08:54] <larsu> I would have thought setting some env var to point compiz to libunity-shell.so would be enough
[08:54] <hikiko> larsu, I usually build compiz and unity
[08:54] <hikiko> and nux
[08:55] <hikiko> larsu, here's what I do:
[08:55] <hikiko> https://ufuntu.wordpress.com/2015/08/16/part4-build/
[08:55] <hikiko> the 1st time
[08:56] <hikiko> then if I need to check something for example in unityshell I only build this directory
[08:56] <hikiko> or you can build it and replace the system's unityshell plugin with the build one
[08:56] <hikiko> (libunityshell.so)
[08:56] <hikiko> if you need to check something quickly
[08:56] <larsu> do I need to copy it over?
[08:56] <larsu> or can I tell compiz to use the one in my ~
[08:57] <larsu> COMPIZ_PLUGIN_DIR doesn't seem to work :/
[08:58] <larsu> oh it does ... but now everything crashes
[08:58] <larsu> (the trick is to add $PWD/plugins/unityshell)
[08:59] <hikiko> you can use: unity --replace ccp
[08:59] <hikiko> and COMPIZ_CONFIG_VERSION=ubuntu
[09:01] <larsu> hikiko: thanks!
[09:02] <hikiko> larsu, I hope it works, I usually only build compiz...
[09:03] <larsu> I was hoping to get around that (and it seems to work so far)
[09:03] <hikiko> with unity I mean: <your_installation_path>/bin/unity
[09:03] <hikiko> cool :)
[09:27] <Laney> larsu: does this https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity-settings-daemon/lid-power-event/+merge/271383 feel good to you?
[09:30] <larsu> Laney: feels like they problably shouldn't connect to that signal again
[09:30] <larsu> but also feels like it should work and doesn't matter that much
[09:31] <Laney> ya, thanks
[09:35] <willcooke> w
[09:35] <willcooke> a
[09:35] <willcooke> l
[09:35] <willcooke> l
[09:35] <willcooke> p
[09:35] <willcooke> a
[09:35] <willcooke> p
[09:35] <willcooke> e
[09:35] <willcooke> r
[09:36] <larsu> someone messed with willcooke's xmodmap
[09:37] <hikiko> lol
[09:37] <willcooke> :D
[09:38] <willcooke> It's my cunning plan to make sure Phonronix don't spot it :)
[09:38] <willcooke> Let's take bets on how long it is before there is a news story after I open a bug with the wp in
[09:42] <Laney> they usually subscribe to the pre-filed bug
[09:43] <Laney> but if there was no one this time
[09:43] <Laney> will see it on wily-changes :)
[09:44] <willcooke> Laney, I've added it to my W machine and the dots on the lock screen dont line up with the lines on the wp
[09:45] <willcooke> I'm not sure if that is fixable, if the wallpaper is scaled, will it be impossible to line up correctly I wonder
[09:45] <Laney> hahaha
[09:46] <Laney> don't the dots scale too?
[09:46] <Laney> i.e. in the same relative position?
[09:46] <willcooke> oh, yeah, good point
[09:46] <Laney> (guessing)
[09:46] <willcooke> it's not out by much
[09:46]  * willcooke speaks to design
[09:46] <Laney> I pointed this out so that it would be checked before handover...
[09:47] <Laney> this doesn't tickle my OCD but it does some people evidently
[09:47] <Laney> like x_no_x
[09:48] <didrocks> mean Laney, doing experimentation on hilighting people ;)
[09:48] <Laney> that's the opposite of mean
[09:48] <Laney> deliberately *not* hilighting him
[09:48]  * Laney is a nice guy
[09:50] <didrocks> "but it does some people evidently"
[09:50] <didrocks> so, there is still a chance… :p
[10:25] <willcooke> morning qengho
[10:48] <larsu> seb128: one morning, one line of code :/
[10:48] <larsu> at least I know how to build and test unity now :D
[10:49] <larsu> funnily, nobody seems to ever use this feature, because it was totally broken
[11:26]  * desrt yawns
[11:26] <desrt> attente: hey.  running into some troubles here, but should still be on time
[11:28] <seb128> larsu, well, at least you found the bug :-)
[11:29] <desrt> larsu: thanks for making me not have to look at this :)
[11:29] <larsu> desrt: you wouldn't have had fun
[11:29] <desrt> i'd say "you handled it before i even woke up" but that wouldn't be true....
[11:29] <larsu> wow
[11:29] <desrt> you don't even want to know what i was doing all last night
[11:30] <larsu> I'm glad I can choose "UTC" as per mpt's design in datetime panel
[11:30] <larsu> it doesn't work though..
[11:30] <larsu> what's the proper timezone name for that?
[11:30] <larsu> desrt: what did you do?
[11:30] <desrt> went to bed at 10... around 2:30, woke up, couldn't sleep further
[11:30] <desrt> ...have you heard of this game called ingress?
[11:31] <larsu> haha
[11:31] <desrt> *cough*
[11:31]  * desrt walked around east toronto from 3am to 7am
[11:32] <seb128> crazy man
[11:32] <desrt> ya well, i made level 5
[11:32] <desrt> and you didn't
[11:33] <desrt> who's crazy now, huh?!?
[11:33]  * desrt twitches
[11:33] <seb128> larsu, "Etc/UTC" I think
[11:33] <larsu> seb128: thanks
[11:33] <seb128> yw
[11:33] <larsu> calling timedated with UTC directly works
[11:33] <larsu> but not from datetime
[11:33] <larsu> don't even get an answer
[11:34] <Laney> Etc/Utc
[11:34] <Laney> oh
[11:34]  * Laney should read the full scrollback
[11:34] <Laney> anarchy in the UK
[11:35] <seb128> :-)
[11:35] <seb128> what sort of anarchy?
[11:35] <seb128> Laney is piloting, good man!
[11:35]  * seb128 added items to the sponsoring queue yesterday while reviewing the +patches list...
[11:36] <larsu> ah, it's going through timezonemap, which doesn't accept UTC
[11:36] <larsu> "great"
[11:36] <larsu> it's also writing the gsettings key twice
[11:36] <seb128> and write it on start? ;-)
[11:36]  * seb128 hides
[11:36] <larsu> nope
[11:36] <larsu> seb128: btw, check it out: https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/unity-control-center/datetime-use-geonames
[11:36] <larsu> (still needs Depends line)
[11:37] <Laney> phwoar
[11:37] <seb128> larsu, rock on, should I build the lib and that and play with it? or do you want to wait a bit before getting user feedback?
[11:38] <larsu> seb128: play!!!
[11:38] <seb128> k :-)
[11:38] <larsu> seb128: if you build from source and --enable-demo, you'll get a small demo app
[11:38] <larsu> otherwise the datetime branch should work as well
[11:38] <seb128> k
[11:38] <seb128> I'm going to try the demo and the panel
[11:38] <larsu> the completion is a bit jumpy because of the long list of matches
[11:38] <larsu> got a gtk patch for that
[11:40] <larsu> going to lunch now though bbiab
[11:41] <seb128> larsu, enjoy!
[11:56] <Laney> chrisccoulson: what's the chance that I can build oxide in ram if I have 32 gigs? ...
[11:56]  * Laney is obeying the instruction to test build it when updating ninja
[12:03] <Laney> /usr/bin/ld.gold: --push-state: unknown option
[12:03] <Laney> meh
[12:05] <seb128> Laney, other people mentioned that error earlier today, see e.g #ubuntu-devel 7:12 uk time
[12:05] <chrisccoulson> Laney, I've not tried it
[12:06] <seb128> Laney, 8:51 is more useful
[12:06] <Laney> so gold broke in some way
[12:06] <seb128> no, qt did
[12:07] <Laney> it didn't get changed
[12:07] <seb128> cf the second chunck of discussion
[12:07] <seb128> hum
[12:07] <seb128> sounds like a doko issue
[12:07] <seb128> dookkoooo
[12:43] <Laney> who knows about broadcom firmware installation and stuff?
[12:43] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/b43-fwcutter/+bug/1490212 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/1490713 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/1491070
[13:04] <seb128> Laney, I guess pitti does?
[13:05] <pitti> so which out of b43-fwcutter, bcmwl, and brcmfmac is the driver du jour for these cards now?
[13:07] <pitti> (probably a question for the kernel team, though)
[13:20] <seb128> pitti, sorry I don't know, was trying to help Laney , who I think is patch piloting
[13:20] <Laney> correct
[13:23] <xclaesse> it's really annoying when evolution can't fetch my google emails because UOA's token isn't valid anymore but UOA settings UI won't let you renew it
[13:24] <seb128> xclaesse, it doesn't? do you know if that's reported?
[13:26] <xclaesse> seb128, not sure exactly what happens tbh, but evolution says: The reported error was "Le délai d'attente est dépassé".
[13:26] <xclaesse> (/me hates those who half-translate error msg)
[13:27] <xclaesse> seb128, and if I delete and re-create my gmail account in UOA it works
[13:27] <xclaesse> it happens often, like once a month...
[13:27] <seb128> unsure if that's reported, it's worth asking to mardy if he knows about it
[13:28] <seb128> he's on #ubuntu-devel
[13:31] <willcooke> ruh roh
[13:31] <willcooke> Can someone try this:
[13:31] <willcooke> Log in 15.10
[13:31] <willcooke> Lock the screen
[13:31] <willcooke> from the lock screen click the power indicator
[13:31] <willcooke> Choose Shut down
[13:32] <willcooke> Click OK?
[13:32] <sethj> what's the expected outcome?
[13:32] <sethj> (besides shutting down)
[13:34] <willcooke> well, I don't have the icons to actually shut down
[13:34] <willcooke> I just have a box, with the text
[13:34] <willcooke> and no buttons
[13:34] <seb128> willcooke, lockscreen shouldn't allow you to shutdown
[13:34] <seb128> that got recently changed
[13:34] <seb128> weird that you get the menu option at all
[13:34] <sethj> yeah, there is no shutdown button on my image.
[13:34] <willcooke> erk
[13:35] <willcooke> Trevinho, ^^^^^
[13:35] <willcooke> Treeeevvviiinnnnnnnnnhhhooooooooooo!
[13:35] <seb128> willcooke, dpkg -l | grep indicator-session?
[13:35] <seb128> willcooke, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-session/12.10.5+15.10.20150915-0ubuntu1
[13:35] <seb128> willcooke, when did you restart your session?
[13:36] <willcooke> otp, one sec
[13:39]  * desrt sits beside robert_ancell and attente
[13:39] <willcooke> \o/
[13:39] <robert_ancell> tripled the Canonical presence
[13:40] <seb128> hey robert_ancell desrt
[13:40] <seb128> enjoying the conference?
[13:41] <robert_ancell> seb128, hi, yeah, it's good to meet everyone in person
[13:41] <Trevinho> willcooke: we had to remove the option to shutdown from lockscreen, but normal one should be fine
[13:42] <Trevinho> willcooke: maybe for some weird reason you miss the textures?
[13:44] <Laney> Trevinho: did something change about desktop file handling for the launcher lately?
[13:44] <Laney> I've noticed stuff disappearing
[13:44] <Laney> like I just installed a new rhythmbox and the icon is gone now
[13:44] <Laney> put it back, dpkg -i and it is gone again
[13:44] <Trevinho> Laney: I noticed that. But nothing has changed
[13:45] <Trevinho> Maybe has changed the way dpkg install desktop files?
[13:45] <seb128> Laney, Trevinho, side effect of the glib inotify work?
[13:45] <Trevinho> As we've a timed removal monitor
[13:45] <seb128> launcher drops items when the .desktop are removed
[13:45] <seb128> maybe it gets remove/added events?
[13:45] <Trevinho> That has always been done
[13:46] <Trevinho> Mh maybe... I'll check in a bit
[13:46] <seb128> Trevinho, maybe what?
[13:46] <Trevinho> We don't receive the added event
[13:46] <seb128> Trevinho, bts, nice try trying to blame glib for https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/unity/lp1495173/+merge/271446 ;-)
[13:47] <Laney> if you can get a log of the events you see we can get it looked at if necessary
[13:48] <Trevinho> seb128: I tried :-P
[13:48]  * desrt shakes finger
[13:48] <seb128> desrt, is there a glib-inotify test binary somewhere?
[13:49] <desrt> gvfs-monitor-dir/file
[13:49] <seb128> ah, I though there was
[13:49] <seb128> thanks
[13:57] <seb128> desrt, Laney, Trevinho, doing a "cp gedit.desktop gedit.desktop.old" and then mv .old gedit.desktop gives with old glib
[13:57] <seb128> File = /usr/share/applications/gedit.desktop.old
[13:57] <seb128> Other = /usr/share/applications/gedit.desktop
[13:57] <seb128> Event = MOVED
[13:57] <seb128> new glib
[13:57] <seb128> File = /usr/share/applications/gedit.desktop
[13:57] <seb128> Event = CREATED
[13:57] <seb128> that's using gvfs-monitor-file
[13:57] <seb128> not sure if that's expected
[13:57] <seb128> but I guess that's what confuses unity
[13:58] <seb128>  
[13:58] <seb128> larsu, is the db of your new lib/test demo smaller than the one we had before? it lists less cities, unsure if that's a bug or by design
[13:58] <Trevinho> Mh irrc they is a flag to get moved or deleted / created pair
[14:06] <seb128> in any case it's a change of behaviour
[14:06] <seb128> so unsure if that's wanted or not
[14:06] <seb128> desrt/Laney probably know better
[14:09] <willcooke> Trevinho, so this lock screen thing.  I've tried it on my test machine and my test VM - both the same
[14:10] <willcooke> Trevinho, upgrading them both now to be sure (last update was a few days ago)
[14:17] <seb128> willcooke, you didn't reply to my question earlier
[14:17] <seb128> dpkg -l output and session restart
[14:17] <willcooke> seb128, sorry, missed it - was otp
[14:18] <seb128> willcooke, I landed that indicator-session fix on tuesday
[14:18] <seb128> so you need to have update yesterday or today and restarted since
[14:18] <willcooke> upgrading now...
[14:18] <seb128> k
[14:24] <willcooke> and now it's fixed.
[14:24]  * willcooke shuts the hell up
[14:24] <willcooke> sethj, looks like an update is needed ^^
[14:25] <hikiko> willcooke, look at this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/91784
[14:26] <hikiko> 2007 and I can't understand if he refers to the unity desktop
[14:26] <hikiko> show desktop just shows the desktop
[14:26] <willcooke> 2007!!?!
[14:26] <hikiko> yes
[14:26] <hikiko> but the posts continue to 2012
[14:26] <sethj> willcooke, ah, coolio. thanks for the heads up.
[14:26] <hikiko> most people use metacity
[14:26] <hikiko> should I mark it as opinion
[14:27] <didrocks> hikiko: not in ubuntu, we used compiz at the time
[14:27] <didrocks> (2007)
[14:29] <seb128> hikiko, willcooke, the icon doesn't seem to reflect the state, but I think there are compiz bugs open about that as well
[14:29] <hikiko> I marked it as invalid
[14:29] <hikiko> for compiz(ubuntu)
[14:29] <seb128> basically if you use "show desktop", then alt-tab to a window, it shows that window but doesn't unflag the "show desktop"
[14:29] <hikiko> ?!
[14:29] <hikiko> "unflag" means what?
[14:29] <seb128> or it does nowadays, that might be fixed
[14:29] <seb128> it used to that if you alt-tabbed to e.g xchat
[14:30] <seb128> then picked "show desktop" again
[14:30] <seb128> it would then display all the things the previous "show desktop" set back
[14:30] <seb128> rather than show the desktop
[14:30] <hikiko> oh
[14:30] <hikiko> now it's fixed
[14:30] <hikiko> so I mark it as fix commited
[14:30] <hikiko> released*
[14:31] <seb128> yeah, fix released seems righty
[14:32] <willcooke> 1 down...
[14:33] <hikiko> 2
[14:33] <willcooke> :)
[14:33] <hikiko> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/91786
[14:33] <hikiko> this one is old as well
[14:33] <hikiko> those that have fix released
[14:33] <willcooke> I found one earlier that duflu logged where he had two launchers, one of top of the other - I've never seen that
[14:33] <hikiko> still appear as bugs
[14:34] <larsu> seb128: no, it's exactly the same.... which city are you missing? Kuntzig?
[14:34] <hikiko> I delete compiz (not compiz(ubuntu) from those that have status fix released in compiz
[14:34] <hikiko> so that they dont appear on the list anymore
[14:36] <larsu> andyrock: ci complains on my merge request, but the crash seems unrelated... is that known?
[14:46] <seb128> larsu, no, but e.g typing "Berl" in the current panel gives a Berl in North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany
[14:46] <seb128> where the demo doesn't
[14:47] <larsu> seb128: the current code doesn't give Berlin for that....
[14:48] <larsu> weird, wikipedia doesn't know that town
[14:48] <larsu> google maps doesn't, either
[14:51] <larsu> seb128: according to geomaps, it's "an area similar to a locality but with a small group of dwellings or other buildings"
[14:51] <seb128> oh ok, so one case of the panel listing things that it shouldn't
[14:51] <larsu> ya...
[14:52] <larsu> seb128: we can always talk about including the larger dataset
[14:52] <larsu> we're compressing it now, so that shouldn't be a problem
[14:52] <seb128> well, we should only list cities
[14:52] <larsu> but at some point, offering too many useless suggestions becomes less good of an experience
[14:53] <larsu> right, that's what we're doing now (I hope)
[14:53] <seb128> that was part of mpt's bug to exclude some of the ppld or whatever they are called
[14:53] <seb128> larsu, the other issue is that it doesn't include translations, where the current version does
[14:53] <seb128> like I can type "Londres "in the current panel
[14:53] <seb128> but not in your demo
[14:53] <seb128> for London
[14:54] <larsu> yes, this is next on my list
[14:54] <seb128> I didn't try your updated panel yet though
[14:54] <seb128> so maybe it's a demo limitation
[14:54] <seb128> k
[14:54] <seb128> larsu, good work otherwise, works fine and doesn't feel slow ;-)
[14:54] <larsu> thanks
[14:54] <larsu> ya... that was kind of what I was going for ;)
[14:54] <seb128> btw you might want to rebase your packaging branch on trunk, I first built that before nothing it was outdated
[14:55] <larsu> oh?
[14:55] <larsu> ah, I did but didn't push it
[14:55] <larsu> sorry
[14:55] <seb128> no worry
[14:56] <larsu> I'll push overwrite it, so please do a new checkout of that branch
[14:56] <seb128> k
[14:57]  * larsu is not a big fan of the packaging branch model
[14:59] <seb128> just include the debian dir in trunk?
[15:01] <larsu> also not a fan :)
[15:03] <Trevinho> are there other solutions? :)
[15:04] <larsu> separate repository, like we do for gnome
[15:04] <larsu> Trevinho: I already asked andyrock above - is the ci failure of my unity branch a known issue?
[15:04] <larsu> it crashes some test, but that seems totally unrelated
[15:05] <andyrock> larsu: sorry i missed the ping
[15:05] <andyrock> yeah it's known
[15:05] <Trevinho> larsu: it's a randome test failure
[15:05] <Trevinho> larsu: it generally doesn't ever happen on ppa landings..
[15:05] <Trevinho> so don't worry too much about that failure
[15:05] <Trevinho> Not sure we should disable that est... As we already tried multiple times to get it stronger
[15:06] <seb128> larsu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12438586/ btw
[15:06] <Trevinho> larsu: however, since IIRC it has to do with gio stuff, if you can check it.... :)
[15:06] <Trevinho> larsu: as you know are an unity builder pro :)
[15:07] <Trevinho> larsu: also I don't know how you ended up doing for building, but this (https://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity/) is updated now
[15:07] <Trevinho> so, basically just install it in your home and... that's it
[15:07] <davmor2> cyphermox: start running I'll give you a 3 second head start.......wily ubiquity seems a bit hmmmmm completely broken
[15:08] <Laney> larsu: when it's released the packager will just merge the upstream tags into that branch
[15:14] <cyphermox> davmor2: does it?
[15:14] <larsu> Trevinho: ah, thanks
[15:15] <larsu> Laney: I understand, it's just a bit hard to get bootstrapped now that stuff is changing so quickly
[15:15] <davmor2> cyphermox: wily 64bit uefi mode on dell xps 13, set it to install on the latest daily it just crashes
[15:15] <larsu> seb128: thanks!
[15:15] <Laney> sure
[15:15] <cyphermox> davmor2: crash because NM?
[15:15] <larsu> seb128: please don't upload yet, I want a review from desrt before committing on the api
[15:15] <larsu> he PROMISED next week
[15:15] <andyrock> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1260653
[15:16] <andyrock> nic, we have bugs about unity3d
[15:16] <andyrock> :D
[15:16] <seb128> larsu, yeah, I was not going to, just playing with it for the moment
[15:16] <seb128> larsu, if we want that in wily we need a ffe
[15:16] <Laney> probably just wait until next release opens...
[15:16] <davmor2> cyphermox: not sure couldn't get it to tell me anything useful was about to try it from desktop instead
[15:16] <larsu> seb128: your decision
[15:16] <seb128> larsu, what Laney just said
[15:16] <cyphermox> davmor2: waiting for zsync then I'll try it too
[15:17] <larsu> Laney: what seb128 said
[15:17] <Trevinho> willcooke: as for the lockscreen bug, I see that it's fixed... But really not fully. I mean, in unity there's a code that ensures that the dialog is closed if no buttons have added (because it's pretty modular, depending on the situation)... And that didn't work in your case apparently
[15:17]  * Laney waggles
[15:17] <seb128> lol
[15:17] <larsu> Laney: close the circle!
[15:18] <Laney> seb128: just do what larsu says at all times, ok?
[15:18] <larsu> uh oh
[15:18]  * Laney strengthened it
[15:18]  * larsu goes mute, just in case
[15:18] <larsu> seb128: I think Laney would like some tea...
[15:18] <Laney> omg
[15:18] <larsu> haha
[15:18] <Laney> can we go to the cat cafe in london?
[15:19] <larsu> are there cats in there?
[15:19] <Laney> YEP
[15:19] <larsu> then no
[15:19] <larsu> wait. A lot?
[15:19]  * Trevinho wants to go there
[15:19] <larsu> Trevinho: and fix your test suite?
[15:19] <Laney> http://ladydinahs.com/our-cats/
[15:19] <Trevinho> maybe :)
[15:20] <Trevinho> I've already spent one night on nux tests... Not sure I want to see them for some hours
[15:20] <Trevinho> although.... London's cats, well they're fu**ing aggressive!
[15:20] <Trevinho> Londoncatteners...
[15:23] <davmor2> cyphermox: tis the network manager issue bug it has taken me to is #bug 1495017
[15:24] <davmor2> cyphermox: might just not of made the morning's image
[15:24] <cyphermox> no, it should have. it made it in yesterday's xubuntu
[15:24] <davmor2> cyphermox: hmmm let me check the image then
[15:24] <cyphermox> maybe it's that the fixed autopilot tests block promotion?
[15:25] <cyphermox> nope
[15:25] <cyphermox> today's image should have the right ubiquity version
[15:26] <cyphermox> (I mean, *has* according to manifest)
[15:28] <davmor2> cyphermox: meh looks like my cronjob beat the cdimage server I'm a day behind by the look of it updating and trying again will confirm shortly if it is fixed
[15:30] <cyphermox> looks good here
[15:30] <cyphermox> thanks for reminding me, I really need to cron all my image updates and such
[15:33] <seb128> hikiko, Trevinho, does https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1470097 ring a bell?
[15:34] <Trevinho> seb128: loook weird
[15:35] <Trevinho> I don't think we go that low level in our code... :o
[15:36] <Trevinho> seb128: is there a way to fake available CPU instructions?
[15:39] <seb128> Trevinho, dunno, don't bother much, I was asking in case that was known
[15:41] <larsu> err, shouldn't this be a ubuntu-wide thing?
[15:41] <larsu> which cpus we support should reflect in compiler switches
[15:44] <Trevinho> larsu: yeah, in fact that's the same thing I thought
[15:44] <Trevinho> larsu: although, maybe there's some low level component that uses cpu calls
[15:44] <Trevinho> but it would be weird if it used these kinds of calls
[15:45] <larsu> ya
[15:56] <larsu> hm, git doesn't like seb128's patch
[15:57] <seb128> larsu, oh?
[15:57] <seb128> patch -p1 it?
[15:58] <larsu> also doens't like
[15:58] <seb128> weiiird, what's the error?
[15:58] <larsu> fatal: git apply: bad git-diff - expected /dev/null on line 33
[15:59] <larsu> ah, line ending madnes
[15:59] <larsu> *madness
[16:00] <larsu> seb128: seb128@ubuntu.com?
[16:01] <seb128> larsu, if you want, but don't bother with credit
[16:01] <seb128> that's a trivial change
[16:02] <larsu> pushed
[16:03] <seb128> thanks
[16:24] <Laney> hmm
[16:25] <Laney> https://paste.debian.net/312215/
[16:25] <Laney> that's a program which does basically what unity does
[16:26] <Laney> is file = g_file_new_for_path(path); delete(path); create(path); g_file_query_exists(path) a sane thing to do?
[16:27] <larsu> this program looks much simpler than unity to me
[16:28] <larsu> Laney: yes. GFile is only a url
[16:28] <Laney> indeed
[16:28] <Laney> but it's getting false
[16:29] <larsu> create() failed?
[16:29] <Laney> woah
[16:30] <larsu> ?
[16:30] <Laney> I made it print the filename
[16:30] <Laney> /usr/share/applications/rhythmbox.desktop.dpkg-new doesn't exist
[16:32] <larsu> hm?
[16:32] <Laney> well I had done       file = g_file_new_for_path("/usr/share/applications/rhythmbox.desktop");
[16:32] <larsu> can you link the source as well please? I don't really know what this is about :)
[16:36] <seb128> larsu, also http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/09/17/%23ubuntu-desktop.html#t13:57
[16:36] <Laney> larsu: https://paste.debian.net/312217/ sorry!
[16:36] <seb128> desrt didn't reply
[16:37] <Laney> unity doesn't pass the flag to get MOVED
[16:37] <seb128> new glib/old glib give different events
[16:37] <Laney> I guess this tool does
[16:37] <Laney> maybe it has a way to tell it not to
[16:37] <seb128> -N
[16:37] <seb128>   -N, --no-pair     Don't send single MOVED events
[16:37] <seb128> ?
[16:38] <Laney> ya, give that
[16:39] <seb128> well
[16:39] <larsu> this is straight in desrt's current territory, no?
[16:39] <seb128> old glib
[16:39] <seb128> File Monitor Event:
[16:39] <seb128> File = /usr/share/applications/gedit.desktop.old
[16:39] <seb128> Event = DELETED
[16:39] <seb128> File Monitor Event:
[16:39] <seb128> File = /usr/share/applications/gedit.desktop
[16:39] <seb128> Event = CREATED
[16:39] <seb128> new glib
[16:39] <seb128> sorry that was new
[16:39] <seb128> old
[16:39] <seb128> File Monitor Event:
[16:39] <seb128> File = /usr/share/applications/gedit.desktop
[16:39] <seb128> Event = CREATED
[16:39] <seb128> so glib behaviour changed in any case
[16:39] <seb128> unsure if that's wanted
[16:41] <Laney> I don't understand why the deleted event sees .dpkg-new
[16:42] <seb128> same as in the gvfs-monitor log
[16:43] <seb128> the moved is transformed on a delete on the old name (but that name is not monitored) + a created
[16:43] <Laney> yeah
[16:58] <davmor2> cyphermox: looks to be good dude both the latest image and the slide show
[16:59] <Laney> holy crap it's 6pm
[16:59]  * Laney feeds hamsters to the computer
[17:00] <davmor2> Laney: no it isn't
[17:00] <Laney> stop trying to psyops me into working longer
[17:00] <davmor2> cyphermox: meh might of spoken too soon no bootable device :(  retrying
[17:00] <Laney> there's CHEESE waiting to be eaten
[17:02] <cyphermox> heh?
[17:04] <Laney> I probably have a fix for that unity bug
[17:04] <Laney> but no time to wait for it to build, for now it is cheesezeit
[17:04] <Laney> bye!
[17:08] <davmor2> cyphermox: meh I know what it is that stupid bios bug where it only looks for the one specific file
[17:09] <cyphermox> I have no idea what you're talking about?
[17:16] <chrisccoulson> Laney, did you manage to build oxide?
[17:22] <willcooke> hikiko, script says 708 Compiz bugs > 2 years old, and of those only 64 have had any comments in the last year
[17:29] <willcooke> g'night
[17:47] <tkamppeter> hi, I have a problem with bug 1449875. I could fix it by adding a dependency to Ghostscript but the new dependency recommends tons of unneeded packages. Do all these get installed then, too?
[18:10] <davmor2> cyphermox: dells bios only see efi entries if /efi/boot/bootx64.efi exists otherwise it ignores the drive
[18:13] <davmor2> cyphermox: and now after adding the entry it boots
[18:47] <cyphermox> davmor2: ah, is that documented somewhere?
[18:48] <davmor2> cyphermox: I think so fourdollars pointed me at it when I hit it the first time round it just threw me for a minute or two till I remembered it