[04:50] Good morning [05:10] good morning [05:33] bonjour didrocks ! [05:40] salut pitti, ça va ? [05:41] didrocks: ça va bien ! j'ai joué au basket hier soir pour la première fois après les vacances d'été, je sense mes muscles :) [05:41] c'était grand [05:44] ahah, j'imagine :) [05:44] * didrocks ne peut pas courir à cause du temps… [05:44] beaucoup de vent et de pluie [05:45] didrocks: ah, quelle domage .. aujourd'hui on a du soleil à nouveau [05:45] "dommage", non ? [05:45] "dommage", oui === hikiko-lpt is now known as hikiko [06:01] hello [06:07] good morning desktopers [06:07] hey hikiko [06:07] re seb128, hey hikiko [06:08] desrt, Laney, larsu, could you look if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1495173 is a glib bug? Trevinho seems to think so (though he didn't comment on the bug to say so) [06:08] Ubuntu bug 1495173 in glib2.0 (Ubuntu) "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in g_bit_lock()" [Undecided,Confirmed] [06:13] bonjour seb128, comment vas-tu ? [06:14] pitti, salut, ça va bien ! Et toi ? [06:15] seb128: je vais bien aussi ! je sense mes muscles, jouer au basket hier soir (la première fois après les vacances de l'été) [06:15] il a me manqué [06:16] ^ (is that right for "I missed it"?) [06:16] hehe, moi c'est pareil avec le tennis ;-) [06:16] seb128: ah, très bien ! ♥ sports [06:16] "ça m'a manqué" [06:16] il would be for somebody [06:16] ah [06:16] * TheMuso waves to deskoppers... some of whom are around early it seems. :) [06:17] TheMuso: the early bird .. can bite me .. or so :) [06:17] TheMuso: hey, how are you? [06:18] * pitti retreats again to spend a nice hour or two with his favorite girl britney [06:18] hey TheMuso [06:27] pitti: Well thanks. :) [06:37] hey didrocks seb128 pitti TheMuso etc sorry I was making coffee and missed the handshake :D how are you? [06:37] hikiko: Fine thanks. [06:41] hey hikiko! I'm great, thanks; how about yourself/ [06:42] i am good :) [06:44] hikiko, doing good thanks ;-) [06:44] :D [07:12] good morning! [07:12] seb128: I can have a look [07:12] larsu, hey, thanks [07:12] it's a larsu ! *hug* [07:12] * larsu needs to make a tea first, though [07:13] guten morgen pitti :) [07:33] * seb128 triages some of the unity bugs [07:33] this bug is ... tricky [07:35] larsu, do you see what's going on in there? [07:36] I"m trying to reproduce right now [07:37] it happens while writing the blacklist key [07:37] I wonder if that's a bug in gvariant [07:37] or if the variant that unity passes to dconf is corrupt [07:40] oh wow I can reproduce after trying it 20 times or so === faenil_ is now known as faenil [07:43] ah, got it [07:43] it's using gvariant wrong [07:48] larsu, ah, Trevinho wrongly blaming glib then ;-) [07:52] seems like it [07:52] code looks good to me though [07:52] finding out where all these gvariant warnings are coming from [07:55] hello you lot [07:55] Hey willcooke. [07:55] hello willcooke [07:55] evening TheMuso [07:55] hey hikiko [07:56] what's the name of the ubuntu kylin desktop channel? I didn't save it in my laptop and my desktop is pretty dead to start xchat atm [07:57] hey willcooke [07:57] hikiko, #nudt-canonical [07:57] thanks willcooke :) [07:57] soooooo, back splatter from the Grand Closing.... [07:57] 1 bug [07:58] from Chipaca, which I've added to the rls-w-incoming list [07:58] pretty good so far I think [07:58] seb128, looks like you've run a script to close all the fix released ones too [07:58] willcooke, no, just going through the New ones manually [07:59] ohhh [07:59] started by the oldest ones [07:59] and quite were fix released for unity but not unity (ubuntu) [07:59] thanks for doing that [07:59] why oh why do we have the duplicates upstream/ubuntu component :-/ [07:59] yw! [08:00] seb128, I wonder what our options are for fixing that. Trevinho has a script which can make sure bugs are synced between the two lists, and then we could just blanked close all of one list? [08:00] or remove from the affects list [08:00] willcooke, I was pondering the close, but it would create quite some noise, not sure if that's worth it [08:02] reassign? [08:03] morning [08:03] hey Laney, how are you? [08:03] larsu, reassign what to what? [08:04] seb128: one of the lists to the other [08:04] I think mpt was arguing for always using package bugs [08:04] right, that's what we do for other projects [08:04] the unity/compiz list are just busy enough that it would create quite some spam [08:04] unsure if that's worth it [08:05] fair enough [08:06] hey seb128 & larsu [08:06] doing PRETTY GOOD! [08:06] YOU? [08:06] awesome :) [08:06] * Laney has had two teas already [08:06] so I feel like TALKING IN CAPS A BIT [08:06] * larsu opens a window after building unity [08:07] oh, cool, thx for looking at that one [08:07] you're "welcome" [08:07] hey Laney, good morning! [08:07] Laney, doing good, thanks :-) [08:08] I did a source-only upload to Debian yesterday and it worked [08:08] we live in good times [08:08] hi pitti! [08:10] Laney: +1 [08:14] Trevinho, I can't reproduce the bug with the shadow... how many windows do I need? I opened like 10 firefox windows yesterday :s [08:14] do I need some plugin enabled? [08:14] eg application switcher? [08:15] (I tried with and without tbh) [08:21] * TheMuso -> EOD, night folks. [08:23] cya TheMuso [08:24] late night TheMuso [08:25] actually it's not that late [08:25] interesting === faenil is now known as faenil_ [08:28] hm, the crash I can reproduce has a vastly different stack trace [08:29] corruption? [08:29] oh, you mean compared to the one from the bug [08:30] not between retries [08:30] yes [08:30] willcooke: i back splattered wha? [08:31] Chipaca, you complaining that bugs are still bugs and that we can't just ignore them. sheesh. [08:31] willcooke: if it's about the email i forwarded you, my comment was that you were pointing to "errors.ubutnu.com" [08:31] oh [08:31] crap [08:31] willcooke: which is probably not where you were wanting to point them [08:32] willcooke: i'm fine with killing some bugs with fire :) [08:32] tried to point out a typo, is all [08:32] Oh, got you - in which case, I will kill it [08:32] and fix the typo [08:33] hmmmmm [08:33] ok, unity NEW 620 -> 507, not bad for an hour or so [08:33] time to make some coffee [08:34] seb128, \o/ [08:35] I think I ll fix the cube textures and lighting until marco is back... I can't make that bug appear maybe my gpu is very new [08:40] hm, how do I run unity from inside the source tree? [08:40] * larsu has changes that are not picked up === faenil_ is now known as faenil [08:53] larsu, dunno, maybe hikiko can help you? [08:53] since Trevinho seems not to be around yet [08:54] larsu, [08:54] I would have thought setting some env var to point compiz to libunity-shell.so would be enough [08:54] larsu, I usually build compiz and unity [08:54] and nux [08:55] larsu, here's what I do: [08:55] https://ufuntu.wordpress.com/2015/08/16/part4-build/ [08:55] the 1st time [08:56] then if I need to check something for example in unityshell I only build this directory [08:56] or you can build it and replace the system's unityshell plugin with the build one [08:56] (libunityshell.so) [08:56] if you need to check something quickly [08:56] do I need to copy it over? [08:56] or can I tell compiz to use the one in my ~ [08:57] COMPIZ_PLUGIN_DIR doesn't seem to work :/ [08:58] oh it does ... but now everything crashes [08:58] (the trick is to add $PWD/plugins/unityshell) [08:59] you can use: unity --replace ccp [08:59] and COMPIZ_CONFIG_VERSION=ubuntu [09:01] hikiko: thanks! [09:02] larsu, I hope it works, I usually only build compiz... [09:03] I was hoping to get around that (and it seems to work so far) [09:03] with unity I mean: /bin/unity [09:03] cool :) [09:27] larsu: does this https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity-settings-daemon/lid-power-event/+merge/271383 feel good to you? [09:30] Laney: feels like they problably shouldn't connect to that signal again [09:30] but also feels like it should work and doesn't matter that much [09:31] ya, thanks [09:35] w [09:35] a [09:35] l [09:35] l [09:35] p [09:35] a [09:35] p [09:35] e [09:35] r [09:36] someone messed with willcooke's xmodmap [09:37] lol [09:37] :D [09:38] It's my cunning plan to make sure Phonronix don't spot it :) [09:38] Let's take bets on how long it is before there is a news story after I open a bug with the wp in [09:42] they usually subscribe to the pre-filed bug [09:43] but if there was no one this time [09:43] will see it on wily-changes :) [09:44] Laney, I've added it to my W machine and the dots on the lock screen dont line up with the lines on the wp [09:45] I'm not sure if that is fixable, if the wallpaper is scaled, will it be impossible to line up correctly I wonder [09:45] hahaha [09:46] don't the dots scale too? [09:46] i.e. in the same relative position? [09:46] oh, yeah, good point [09:46] (guessing) [09:46] it's not out by much [09:46] * willcooke speaks to design [09:46] I pointed this out so that it would be checked before handover... [09:47] this doesn't tickle my OCD but it does some people evidently [09:47] like x_no_x [09:48] mean Laney, doing experimentation on hilighting people ;) [09:48] that's the opposite of mean [09:48] deliberately *not* hilighting him [09:48] * Laney is a nice guy [09:50] "but it does some people evidently" [09:50] so, there is still a chance… :p === qengho is now known as CardinalFang === CardinalFang is now known as qengho [10:25] morning qengho [10:48] seb128: one morning, one line of code :/ [10:48] at least I know how to build and test unity now :D [10:49] funnily, nobody seems to ever use this feature, because it was totally broken [11:26] * desrt yawns [11:26] attente: hey. running into some troubles here, but should still be on time === JMulholland_ is now known as JMulholland [11:28] larsu, well, at least you found the bug :-) [11:29] larsu: thanks for making me not have to look at this :) [11:29] desrt: you wouldn't have had fun [11:29] i'd say "you handled it before i even woke up" but that wouldn't be true.... [11:29] wow [11:29] you don't even want to know what i was doing all last night [11:30] I'm glad I can choose "UTC" as per mpt's design in datetime panel [11:30] it doesn't work though.. [11:30] what's the proper timezone name for that? [11:30] desrt: what did you do? [11:30] went to bed at 10... around 2:30, woke up, couldn't sleep further [11:30] ...have you heard of this game called ingress? [11:31] haha [11:31] *cough* [11:31] * desrt walked around east toronto from 3am to 7am [11:32] crazy man [11:32] ya well, i made level 5 [11:32] and you didn't [11:33] who's crazy now, huh?!? [11:33] * desrt twitches [11:33] larsu, "Etc/UTC" I think [11:33] seb128: thanks [11:33] yw [11:33] calling timedated with UTC directly works [11:33] but not from datetime [11:33] don't even get an answer [11:34] Etc/Utc [11:34] oh [11:34] * Laney should read the full scrollback [11:34] anarchy in the UK [11:35] :-) [11:35] what sort of anarchy? [11:35] Laney is piloting, good man! [11:35] * seb128 added items to the sponsoring queue yesterday while reviewing the +patches list... [11:36] ah, it's going through timezonemap, which doesn't accept UTC [11:36] "great" [11:36] it's also writing the gsettings key twice [11:36] and write it on start? ;-) [11:36] * seb128 hides [11:36] nope [11:36] seb128: btw, check it out: https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/unity-control-center/datetime-use-geonames [11:36] (still needs Depends line) [11:37] phwoar [11:37] larsu, rock on, should I build the lib and that and play with it? or do you want to wait a bit before getting user feedback? [11:38] seb128: play!!! [11:38] k :-) [11:38] seb128: if you build from source and --enable-demo, you'll get a small demo app [11:38] otherwise the datetime branch should work as well [11:38] k [11:38] I'm going to try the demo and the panel [11:38] the completion is a bit jumpy because of the long list of matches [11:38] got a gtk patch for that [11:40] going to lunch now though bbiab [11:41] larsu, enjoy! [11:56] chrisccoulson: what's the chance that I can build oxide in ram if I have 32 gigs? ... [11:56] * Laney is obeying the instruction to test build it when updating ninja === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:03] /usr/bin/ld.gold: --push-state: unknown option [12:03] meh [12:05] Laney, other people mentioned that error earlier today, see e.g #ubuntu-devel 7:12 uk time === hikiko is now known as hikiko|ln [12:05] Laney, I've not tried it [12:06] Laney, 8:51 is more useful [12:06] so gold broke in some way [12:06] no, qt did [12:07] it didn't get changed [12:07] cf the second chunck of discussion [12:07] hum [12:07] sounds like a doko issue [12:07] dookkoooo [12:43] who knows about broadcom firmware installation and stuff? [12:43] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/b43-fwcutter/+bug/1490212 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/1490713 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/1491070 [12:43] Ubuntu bug 1490212 in software-properties (Ubuntu) ""Modaliases" field missing from debian control file" [Undecided,New] [12:43] Ubuntu bug 1490713 in bcmwl (Ubuntu) "The Debian control file's "modaliases" is too generic" [Undecided,New] [12:43] Ubuntu bug 1491070 in bcmwl (Ubuntu) "On removal the package should warn a reboot is needed" [Undecided,New] === CrazyMelon is now known as CrazyLemon === hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko [13:04] Laney, I guess pitti does? === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:05] so which out of b43-fwcutter, bcmwl, and brcmfmac is the driver du jour for these cards now? [13:07] (probably a question for the kernel team, though) [13:20] pitti, sorry I don't know, was trying to help Laney , who I think is patch piloting [13:20] correct [13:23] it's really annoying when evolution can't fetch my google emails because UOA's token isn't valid anymore but UOA settings UI won't let you renew it [13:24] xclaesse, it doesn't? do you know if that's reported? [13:26] seb128, not sure exactly what happens tbh, but evolution says: The reported error was "Le délai d'attente est dépassé". [13:26] (/me hates those who half-translate error msg) [13:27] seb128, and if I delete and re-create my gmail account in UOA it works [13:27] it happens often, like once a month... [13:27] unsure if that's reported, it's worth asking to mardy if he knows about it [13:28] he's on #ubuntu-devel [13:31] ruh roh [13:31] Can someone try this: [13:31] Log in 15.10 [13:31] Lock the screen [13:31] from the lock screen click the power indicator [13:31] Choose Shut down [13:32] Click OK? [13:32] what's the expected outcome? [13:32] (besides shutting down) [13:34] well, I don't have the icons to actually shut down [13:34] I just have a box, with the text [13:34] and no buttons [13:34] willcooke, lockscreen shouldn't allow you to shutdown [13:34] that got recently changed [13:34] weird that you get the menu option at all [13:34] yeah, there is no shutdown button on my image. [13:34] erk [13:35] Trevinho, ^^^^^ [13:35] Treeeevvviiinnnnnnnnnhhhooooooooooo! [13:35] willcooke, dpkg -l | grep indicator-session? [13:35] willcooke, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-session/12.10.5+15.10.20150915-0ubuntu1 [13:35] willcooke, when did you restart your session? [13:36] otp, one sec [13:39] * desrt sits beside robert_ancell and attente [13:39] \o/ [13:39] tripled the Canonical presence [13:40] hey robert_ancell desrt [13:40] enjoying the conference? [13:41] seb128, hi, yeah, it's good to meet everyone in person [13:41] willcooke: we had to remove the option to shutdown from lockscreen, but normal one should be fine [13:42] willcooke: maybe for some weird reason you miss the textures? [13:44] Trevinho: did something change about desktop file handling for the launcher lately? [13:44] I've noticed stuff disappearing [13:44] like I just installed a new rhythmbox and the icon is gone now [13:44] put it back, dpkg -i and it is gone again [13:44] Laney: I noticed that. But nothing has changed [13:45] Maybe has changed the way dpkg install desktop files? [13:45] Laney, Trevinho, side effect of the glib inotify work? [13:45] As we've a timed removal monitor [13:45] launcher drops items when the .desktop are removed [13:45] maybe it gets remove/added events? [13:45] That has always been done [13:46] Mh maybe... I'll check in a bit [13:46] Trevinho, maybe what? [13:46] We don't receive the added event [13:46] Trevinho, bts, nice try trying to blame glib for https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/unity/lp1495173/+merge/271446 ;-) [13:47] if you can get a log of the events you see we can get it looked at if necessary [13:48] seb128: I tried :-P [13:48] * desrt shakes finger [13:48] desrt, is there a glib-inotify test binary somewhere? [13:49] gvfs-monitor-dir/file [13:49] ah, I though there was [13:49] thanks [13:57] desrt, Laney, Trevinho, doing a "cp gedit.desktop gedit.desktop.old" and then mv .old gedit.desktop gives with old glib [13:57] File = /usr/share/applications/gedit.desktop.old [13:57] Other = /usr/share/applications/gedit.desktop [13:57] Event = MOVED [13:57] new glib [13:57] File = /usr/share/applications/gedit.desktop [13:57] Event = CREATED [13:57] that's using gvfs-monitor-file [13:57] not sure if that's expected [13:57] but I guess that's what confuses unity [13:58] [13:58] larsu, is the db of your new lib/test demo smaller than the one we had before? it lists less cities, unsure if that's a bug or by design [13:58] Mh irrc they is a flag to get moved or deleted / created pair [14:06] in any case it's a change of behaviour [14:06] so unsure if that's wanted or not [14:06] desrt/Laney probably know better [14:09] Trevinho, so this lock screen thing. I've tried it on my test machine and my test VM - both the same [14:10] Trevinho, upgrading them both now to be sure (last update was a few days ago) [14:17] willcooke, you didn't reply to my question earlier [14:17] dpkg -l output and session restart [14:17] seb128, sorry, missed it - was otp [14:18] willcooke, I landed that indicator-session fix on tuesday [14:18] so you need to have update yesterday or today and restarted since [14:18] upgrading now... [14:18] k [14:24] and now it's fixed. [14:24] * willcooke shuts the hell up [14:24] sethj, looks like an update is needed ^^ [14:25] willcooke, look at this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/91784 [14:25] Ubuntu bug 91784 in One Hundred Papercuts "The modal behavior of "Show Desktop" is confusing" [Low,Triaged] [14:26] 2007 and I can't understand if he refers to the unity desktop [14:26] show desktop just shows the desktop [14:26] 2007!!?! [14:26] yes [14:26] but the posts continue to 2012 [14:26] willcooke, ah, coolio. thanks for the heads up. [14:26] most people use metacity [14:26] should I mark it as opinion [14:27] hikiko: not in ubuntu, we used compiz at the time [14:27] (2007) [14:29] hikiko, willcooke, the icon doesn't seem to reflect the state, but I think there are compiz bugs open about that as well [14:29] I marked it as invalid [14:29] for compiz(ubuntu) [14:29] basically if you use "show desktop", then alt-tab to a window, it shows that window but doesn't unflag the "show desktop" [14:29] ?! [14:29] "unflag" means what? [14:29] or it does nowadays, that might be fixed [14:29] it used to that if you alt-tabbed to e.g xchat [14:30] then picked "show desktop" again [14:30] it would then display all the things the previous "show desktop" set back [14:30] rather than show the desktop [14:30] oh [14:30] now it's fixed [14:30] so I mark it as fix commited [14:30] released* [14:31] yeah, fix released seems righty [14:32] 1 down... [14:33] 2 [14:33] :) [14:33] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/91786 [14:33] Ubuntu bug 91786 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Compiz's Panel shadows show on top of other windows" [Low,Fix released] [14:33] this one is old as well [14:33] those that have fix released [14:33] I found one earlier that duflu logged where he had two launchers, one of top of the other - I've never seen that [14:33] still appear as bugs [14:34] seb128: no, it's exactly the same.... which city are you missing? Kuntzig? [14:34] I delete compiz (not compiz(ubuntu) from those that have status fix released in compiz [14:34] so that they dont appear on the list anymore [14:36] andyrock: ci complains on my merge request, but the crash seems unrelated... is that known? [14:46] larsu, no, but e.g typing "Berl" in the current panel gives a Berl in North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany [14:46] where the demo doesn't [14:47]