[04:41] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:46] <TJ-> Morning :)
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: morning mate
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: you know solution for this: <lotuspsychje> im having issues to get wifi working on 14.04.3 for an offline box, lshw shows my ralink 2800pci wifi card but somehow doesnt wanna load:  phy0: rt2800_probe_rt: error invalid RT chipset 0xffff rev ffff detected syslog error
[04:47] <TJ-> Ouch! do we have the PCI ID of the device?
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> dont have a network cable handy on this box, so cant update neither until the ralink card works
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: network controller: ralink corp RT2800 802.11n PCI
[04:48] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: how about the Vendor:Product ID?
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: subsystem: linksys device 0067
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> 1814:0601
[04:50] <TJ-> ok, lets see what the driver thinks of that
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> lshw -C network shows unclaimed card, no driver loaded
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> and module exists here:  /lib/modules/3.19.0-26-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt2x00/rt2800pci.ko
[04:51] <TJ-> So the module claims it: alias:          pci:v00001814d00000601sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> yes
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> same card worked also on my box fully updated with eth0 cable
[04:52] <TJ-> drivers/net/wireless/rt2x00/rt2800lib.c:7712:           rt2x00_err(rt2x00dev, "Invalid RT chipset 0x%04x, rev %04x detected\n"
[04:53] <TJ-> dmesg from boot might reveal a PCI mapping problem. Can you 'pastebinit /var/log/dmesg'
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> not right now sorry
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> its upstairs, i can do it later
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: can bios settings block the pci card somehow?
[04:55] <TJ-> Not usually. PCI devices have the concept of 'mapping' their I/O and memory resources into the CPU address space. They do that via Base Address Registers (BARs). sometimes devices sit behind PCI bridges, which don't create sufficiently large 'windows' for the devices behind them. That can cause some PCI devices not to be able to fully function
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> well i think dmesg spitted out some pci stuff yesterday
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> ill paste in later tnx
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> modprobe rt2800pci also did nothing
[04:57] <TJ-> One of the many reasons I love Linux is the amount of boot-time config info in the logs, makes diagnosing issues so much easier
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> true :p
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: can i bridge my laptop == to the offline box with eth cable to get it connected?
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> both 14.04
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> got wifi working on laptop
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: the card is not meant to work on that box, just to get it updated
[04:59] <TJ-> if the interfaces are gigabit, or fast ethernet and support auto MDI-X, you can use a straight patch cable to connect them. Otherwise you'll need a cross-over cable
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> ok
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> think ill just go buy a 10m network cable for router==offline box
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> and buy me a plug n play wifi dongle for ubuntu :p
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> dont like offline messing
[05:02] <TJ-> that error message is from the rt2800pci driver, so the device isn't 'looking' like it should, which suggests the resource mapping issue
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> weird it doesnt get picked up by default
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> maybe i should report this to devel?
[05:04] <TJ-> "chipset 0xffff rev ffff" suggests the entire memory area it reads is 11111s
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[05:06] <TJ-> Need sudo
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> ok ill try later
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> we better start fixxing bugs lol
[05:33] <lotuspsychje>  http://www.whizzy.org/2015/09/big-bug-bonanza-16-04-lts/
[05:33] <lotuspsychje>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BigDesktopBugScrub
[05:36] <TJ-> Funny how that's all Unity related; says a lot :)
[05:37] <lordievader> The email they sent to the community list exclaimed Unity at the title, lost intrest right there.
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> really curious how 16.04 will look like in few months :p
[05:39] <lordievader> I am not sure if I want to know.
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> well they invented unity, i dont think they will loose it now
[05:40] <lordievader> That is not what I mean. The future of Kubuntu is uncertain, hence I am not sure if I want to know.
[05:44] <TJ-> I wish there was more clarity on it; I'm avoiding commmiting to jumping in on it because it could be wasted effort
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> also smart
[05:53] <TJ-> It's not even clear how many users it has, which doesn't help. The activity on IRC suggests very few.
[06:00] <lordievader> True, but IRC users isn't a very good metric either.
[06:06] <TJ-> I know, but it does give an idea of how many people might be prepared to casually contribute
[06:08] <lordievader> True, true.
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> morning OerHeks
[06:14] <OerHeks> morning lotus
[08:10] <OerHeks> uh oh, .. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/09/intel-graphics-installer-for-linux-adds-support-for-ubuntu-15-04
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> offline box is fixxed by cable, tnx EriC^^ and TJ-
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> corenominal: good afternoon
[10:19] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: great
[10:19] <EriC^^> np
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: ill check later wich module is installed on my desktop upstairs
[10:20] <EriC^^> cool
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> isnt there a way to backup all ubuntu drivers to an usb somehow
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> and install the needed ones from the usb to offline box?
[10:21] <EriC^^> aptoncd i guess
[10:21] <EriC^^> but that'll install everything
[10:22] <EriC^^> *shrug*
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: but default drivers in ubuntu doesnt come in .deb right?
[10:22] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: You mean copy /lib/modules?
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: would that be the reccomended way?
[10:23] <lordievader> Meh, not really.
[10:23] <lordievader> You could mount it over /lib/modules fix your system and remove the mount.
[10:24] <lotuspsychje> lets say a card needs a specific firmware thats not by default in modules
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> there should be a way to make an usb stick with all drivers
[10:26] <lordievader> Ah there should be a linux-firmware package.
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-firmware
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> cool
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> so lets say i install this package to the offline box, it could load modules from there?
[10:27] <lordievader> If the modules exist, I guess. This package just installs firmware.
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> ok
[10:32] <EriC^^> yeah some drivers are in some debs some in different separate debs
[10:32] <EriC^^> i guess it depends which drivers you need, you'd need to hunt down the dependencies and stuff and install all the .debs
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> thats rough
[10:33] <EriC^^> c'est la via
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> i saw broadcom driver on the iso by default
[10:33] <EriC^^> :p
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> they should have collection of all drivers in there
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> oh well, maybe ill just buy cheap wifi dongle work out of the box
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> to avoid situations
[10:34] <EriC^^> try lspci -k and get the driver it's using i guess
[10:34] <EriC^^> if you wanna avoid this for this wifi card
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> ok
[10:35] <EriC^^> but yeah it seems like a good idea if theres a ubuntu iso or something that has all drivers so it'll work out of the box
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> i remember back in the old ubuntu versions, i had to add cdrom source to find a wifi driver offline
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> !info apt-offline
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> oh nice
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> laterz :p