[15:00] <sil2100> o/
[15:00] <barry> \o
[15:00] <cyphermox> o/
[15:01] <infinity> *oontz oontz oontz*
[15:01]  * slangasek waves
[15:02] <slangasek> #startmeeting
[15:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Sep 17 15:02:05 2015 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:02] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[15:02] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx)
[15:02] <slangasek> barry tdaitx sil2100 doko caribou robru cyphermox bdmurray pitti infinity slangasek
[15:02] <barry> \o/
[15:02] <barry> more py35 stuff. cmd2 0.6.8-0ubuntu1; LP: #1491888; LP: #1488175; LP: #1491620 & Debian bug #797840; pycparser 2.14+dfsg-2; pytest 2.7.3-1; mugshot -.3.0-0ubuntu4; python-future 0.15.2-1; LP: #1491878 & python-babel 1.3+dfsg.1-6; genshi 0.7-5; investigated pyke ftbfs (it's dead upstream afaict).
[15:02] <barry> investigated LP: #1495688 & LP: #1495207
[15:02] <barry> interviews
[15:02] <barry> --done--
[15:02] <tdaitx> Current/Past
[15:02] <tdaitx> - fixed JDK 7 TLS 1.2 and JDK 6 TLS 1.1 regressions; new webrevs are available
[15:02] <tdaitx> - setup UMT locally; investigating sbuild charm to maybe try umt on canonistack
[15:02] <tdaitx> - created MIR request for bats (LP: #1496050)
[15:02] <tdaitx> - refactored JRuby 3310 PR (now closed), new PR 3331 has been proposed
[15:02] <tdaitx> - squid3 FTBFS: fixed 2 of 3 issues (LP: #1496223); updated glibc to 2.22 for testing and then realized that the PPA would not use it
[15:02] <tdaitx> - moving TCK to canonistack, learning and investigating how to create a charm to run it
[15:03] <tdaitx> Next steps
[15:03] <tdaitx> - complete moving TCK to canonistack and run the full suite
[15:03] <tdaitx> - FTBFS fixes and triaging
[15:03] <tdaitx> Waiting/On hold
[15:03] <tdaitx> - waiting OCA to submit webrevs for 7093640 backport (set TLS 1.1 as default for JDK 6 and TLS 1.2 as default for JDK 7); not blocking anything for now, just waiting
[15:03] <tdaitx> - headers mismatch between linux-libc-dev_4.2.0-10.11 and libc6-dev_2.21-0ubuntu4 causes squid3 to FTBFS (LP: #1496223); how to proceed?
[15:03] <tdaitx> (done)
[15:03] <tdaitx> Current/Past
[15:03] <pitti> tdaitx: UMT?
[15:03] <tdaitx> - fixed JDK 7 TLS 1.2 and JDK 6 TLS 1.1 regressions; new webrevs are available
[15:03] <tdaitx> - setup UMT locally; investigating sbuild charm to maybe try umt on canonistack
[15:03] <tdaitx> - created MIR request for bats (LP: #1496050)
[15:03] <tdaitx> - refactored JRuby 3310 PR (now closed), new PR 3331 has been proposed
[15:03] <tdaitx> - squid3 FTBFS: fixed 2 of 3 issues (LP: #1496223); updated glibc to 2.22 for testing and then realized that the PPA would not use it
[15:03] <tdaitx> - moving TCK to canonistack, learning and investigating how to create a charm to run it
[15:03] <tdaitx> Next steps
[15:03] <tdaitx> - complete moving TCK to canonistack and run the full suite
[15:03] <tdaitx> - FTBFS fixes and triaging
[15:03] <sil2100> ugh, double paste!
[15:03] <tdaitx> Waiting/On hold
[15:03] <tdaitx> - waiting OCA to submit webrevs for 7093640 backport (set TLS 1.1 as default for JDK 6 and TLS 1.2 as default for JDK 7); not blocking anything for now, just waiting
[15:03] <tdaitx> - headers mismatch between linux-libc-dev_4.2.0-10.11 and libc6-dev_2.21-0ubuntu4 causes squid3 to FTBFS (LP: #1496223); how to proceed?
[15:03] <tdaitx> (done)
[15:03] <tdaitx> ops, double post, sorry
[15:03] <tdaitx> twice done I would say
[15:03] <tdaitx> pitti, this -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/BuildEnvironment#Setting_up_and_using_UMT
[15:04] <sil2100> - First week after holidays!
[15:04] <sil2100> - Landing team work, silo coordination, preparing landing e-mails
[15:04] <sil2100> - Preparing meizu.zh re-releases for OTA-6
[15:04] <sil2100> - Ubuntu-PD:
[15:04] <sil2100>   * Adding the pocket-desktop seed
[15:04] <sil2100>   * Releasing the new ubuntu-touch-meta with ubuntu-pocket-desktop
[15:04] <sil2100>   * Preparing livecd-rootfs for building ubuntu-pd images
[15:04] <sil2100> - appmenu-qt5:
[15:04] <sil2100>   * Preparing and testing initial version of Qt5 platformmenu shortcuts fix
[15:04] <sil2100> - RTM Status meetings
[15:04] <sil2100> - Updating seeds as per various requests
[15:04] <sil2100> - CI Train:
[15:04] <sil2100>   * Preparing quick-fix for archive permissions check
[15:04] <sil2100>   * Quick-fix for small issue with certain cases of merge & clean
[15:04] <sil2100> - Investigating strange build failures in the CI Train
[15:04] <sil2100> (done)
[15:05] <slangasek> no doko here; caribou
[15:05] <caribou> Bugfix:
[15:05] <caribou>  - Bug #1434684 : not a bug
[15:05] <caribou>  - CVE work with Pitti
[15:05] <caribou>  - Bug #1494141 - haproxy 1.5 does not terminate
[15:05] <caribou>  - Bug #1496317 Wily failed kdump crash
[15:05] <caribou>  - Bug #1469054 - SRUed fix for warning msg on Trusty
[15:05] <caribou> ☑ Done
[15:06] <bdmurray> robru is out right?
[15:06] <slangasek> robru is on vacation this week
[15:06] <slangasek> cyphermox:
[15:08] <cyphermox>  - still working on fwupdate.
[15:08] <cyphermox>  - reviewed, sponsored packages for Ubuntu-MATE
[15:08] <cyphermox>  - debugging + fix for LP: #1479213 in grub-installer (> 26 disk installs)
[15:08] <cyphermox>    - also the SRUs of the fix to trusty and vivid (in the queue now)
[15:08] <cyphermox>  - SRU for network-manager LP: #1436330
[15:08] <slangasek> tdaitx: bug #1496223 - a header mismatch between libc6 and linux-libc-dev is a bug in those packages; open tasks against glibc and linux on that bug?
[15:08] <cyphermox>  - debugging unity-control-center issue
[15:08] <cyphermox>  - ubiquity:
[15:08] <cyphermox>    - fix crasher bug LP: #1495017 due to bad GetDevices() call.
[15:08] <cyphermox>    - merged multiple fixes to autopilot tests from Dan Chapman
[15:08] <cyphermox>    - merged icon-theme fix for tests from Laney.
[15:08] <cyphermox>  - sponsored kbd fix for wily LP: #869017
[15:08] <cyphermox>  - debugging grub-install issue in LP: #1487365
[15:08] <cyphermox>  - reviewing LP: #1469143, LP: #1482851
[15:08] <tdaitx> infinity, relatime since 8.04? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab#line-84
[15:08] <cyphermox>  - continuing on fixing up ibmpmlinux upload.
[15:08] <cyphermox> (done)
[15:08] <pitti> cyphermox: ah, so NM didn't actually change API in GetDevices(), but the call in ubiquity was wrong all along?
[15:08] <tdaitx> slangasek, will do, thanks =)
[15:09] <cyphermox> oh, and I forgot, some citrain babysitting
[15:09] <infinity> tdaitx: Yeah, I came to the same conclusion, so my issue is elsewhere. :P
[15:09] <bdmurray> updated retracer.py not to log the swift token as it is noisy in the logs
[15:09] <cyphermox> pitti: nah, it didn't change, the call was wrong all along (or incomplete, at lest)
[15:09] <bdmurray> investigation into lcy01 incident and retracers disappearing
[15:09] <bdmurray> research into how to debug rabbitmq
[15:09] <bdmurray> documented issue with rabbitmq, emailed people about it
[15:09] <bdmurray> create a flow chart of retracer actions
[15:09] <bdmurray> investigation into / fix of retraces being stuck on old core files (RT 84666)
[15:09] <bdmurray> found out the issue was with the retracers double ack'ing cores in some cases :-|
[15:09] <bdmurray> tested / fixing retracing of the failed_queues (adding retracers on hold until lcy01 back)
[15:09] <bdmurray> resolved (r677) issues with retracer's handling of old core files that don't exist in swift
[15:09] <bdmurray> submitted RT regarding updating apport on staging (fixing LP: #1487174)
[15:09] <bdmurray> set up retracer and charm to use a command line option for the location to store core files
[15:09] <bdmurray> spent time trying to square away my canonistack retracers (seems like a juju failure)
[15:09] <bdmurray> added an apport hook for shim signed (LP: #1490030)
[15:10] <bdmurray> research into supporting Trusty to Vivid upgrades (found LP: #1258639)
[15:10] <bdmurray> sponsored live-build upload for sil2100
[15:10] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[15:10] <sil2100> bdmurray: \o/ thanks!
[15:10] <pitti> autopkgtest: Teach britney and autopkgtest about supporting running kernel-related tests (DKMS, LXC, etc.) on multiple kernels. This requires keeping track of test triggers, calculating/triggering reverse dependencies on supported architectures only, some rewiring of britney's logic, exposing runtime kernel information in the results, etc. We are 90% there, then we have fully automatic regression
[15:10] <pitti> testing on all supported releases and kernels. While painful, this also led to some much more robust concepts and code in britney.
[15:10] <pitti> apport: Work on yet undisclosed security issue
[15:10] <pitti> misc:
[15:10] <pitti>  - fix broken chef, puppet, and crash autopkgtests
[15:10] <pitti>  - python-dbusmock: Review/merge pete-wood's NetworkManager template improvement, land it in all places
[15:10] <pitti>  - Update SRU policy proposals, send new proposals to TB list
[15:10] <pitti> ^D
[15:10] <sil2100> I now need to get the livecd-rootfs hack back for the overlay...
[15:10] <infinity> - Kernel SRU wrangling
[15:10] <infinity> - Planning release sprint
[15:10] <infinity> - Hunting glibc test regressions
[15:10] <infinity> - Fixed a dpkg trigger loop in software-center
[15:10] <infinity> - More s390x meetings, planning, and bootstrapping
[15:10] <infinity> (done)
[15:12] <slangasek>  * interviews
[15:12] <slangasek>  * s390 recruiting attempts
[15:12] <slangasek>  * a bit of cdimage handholding for a snappy image release
[15:12] <slangasek>  * discussions about how to help get juju-core into main for 15.10
[15:12] <slangasek>  * minor consulting on the pocket desktop seed
[15:12] <slangasek>  * next week:
[15:12] <slangasek>   * out on vacation
[15:12] <slangasek> (done)
[15:12] <slangasek> questions on status?
[15:14] <slangasek> [TOPIC] team sprint
[15:14] <slangasek> just a quick status update for everyone
[15:14] <slangasek> planning on this is still in progress.. we are still targeting the first week in November
[15:15] <caribou> during UOS ?
[15:15] <slangasek> however it looks like we'll probably move continents, Bluefin is already booked up that week
[15:15] <slangasek> caribou: correct
[15:15] <barry> slangasek: awesome, i've never been to antartica!
[15:15] <infinity> slangasek: Asia? :)
[15:15] <slangasek> trolls, I'm surrounded by trolls
[15:15] <sil2100> Asia would be nice
[15:15] <slangasek> so, we're looking at locations in the US
[15:15]  * bdmurray weeps
[15:15] <infinity> Boourns.
[15:16] <caribou> yep was a good Rock group
[15:16] <slangasek> as soon as we have something locked in, you'll get an email
[15:16] <cyphermox> :/
[15:16] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[15:16] <slangasek> anything else today?
[15:17] <infinity> I suppose I should have done the stgraber thing and announced my upcoming travel.
[15:17] <infinity> I'll be in SF for Connect next week, and in Detroit for $reasons the week after (working, though).
[15:17] <pitti> US> bummer for conf overlap with Berlin :/
[15:17] <bdmurray> I'll be out at a conference a couple of days (W, Th) next week.
[15:18] <slangasek> infinity: yeah, doko is there next week too
[15:18] <infinity> slangasek: Connect, I hope, not Detroit.  The latter could get awakward.
[15:18] <infinity> awkward, too.
[15:18]  * slangasek gives infinity an awk award
[15:19]  * infinity goes awakward toward all the waks.
[15:19] <cyphermox> are there sed awards too?
[15:19] <infinity> cyphermox: The sed award is usually "you should have used awk".
[15:19] <slangasek> infinity: heresy
[15:19] <infinity> I stand by it.
[15:20] <slangasek> right, anything else?
[15:21] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[15:21] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Sep 17 15:21:14 2015 UTC.
[15:21] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-09-17-15.02.moin.txt
[15:21] <barry> thanks!
[15:21] <slangasek> thanks!
[15:21] <infinity> *wave*
[15:21] <tdaitx> thanks =)
[15:21] <caribou> thanks!
[15:21] <pitti> thanks everyone
[15:22] <sil2100> o/
[17:04]  * popey looks around for a community council
[17:04]  * mhall119 is here
[17:04] <mhall119> #startmeeting CC catchups
[17:04] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Sep 17 17:04:27 2015 UTC.  The chair is mhall119. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[17:04] <cprofitt> hello all
[17:04] <mhall119> today's agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[17:04] <mhall119> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[17:06] <mhall119> so dpm (and I) are in a call right now, so the community team catchup might be short
[17:06] <mhall119> and dholbach is already EOD
[17:06] <popey> uh
[17:06] <popey> i think you are looking at the wrong date
[17:06] <popey> [M#xQKubuntu Council 17:00UTC 17th September / Membership Board 17:30UTC 17th September
[17:07] <mhall119> ah, so I am, need to update the wiki page
[17:07] <mhall119> Kubuntu Council first then
[17:07] <mhall119> yofel: ping
[17:08]  * mhall119 doesn't see anybody else form the KC here
[17:08] <cprofitt> I know we have new KC members
[17:08]  * elacheche  is wondering why there is wrong informations in here → https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda#Membership_candidates
[17:08] <mhall119> I think we've got a hangout scheduled for them sometime soon too
[17:08] <popey> elacheche: its a wiki, fix it :)
[17:09] <yofel> next wednesday I believe
[17:09] <mhall119> yeah, just really outdated info
[17:09] <yofel> you have a meeting now?
[17:09] <mhall119> yofel: we had a regularly scheduled catchup scheduled for today
[17:09] <elacheche> I'll do that :) Just let's finish this meeting :D And it's on my ToDo :)
[17:09] <popey> \o/
[17:09] <mhall119> but we can postpone it since we already have another scheduled
[17:09] <popey> thanks elacheche
[17:10] <elacheche> :)
[17:10] <mhall119> #topic Membership Board catchup
[17:10] <yofel> mhall119: lets do that then, thanks
[17:10] <mhall119> yofel: no problem
[17:10] <mhall119> popey: are you here to represent the membership board?
[17:10] <mhall119> anyone else from the MB here?
[17:10] <popey> me and some others
[17:11] <elacheche> Ok then.. I think that am the only one from MB! As the meeting is supposed to be after 20min :)
[17:11] <pleia2> elacheche as well
[17:11] <popey> Yeah, we sent a reminder to the RMB that it's at 17:30 UTC
[17:11] <mhall119> popey: who many membership applications have you guys had in the past cycle? (estimates okay)
[17:11] <pleia2> ah, we need to fix that on our agendas
[17:11] <popey> Dunno if everyone is available
[17:11] <popey> half a dozen or so
[17:11] <pleia2> it rarely is at :30, usually just goes with the flow of the meeting
[17:12] <pleia2> half dozen for both time slots?
[17:12] <mhall119> popey: how many have been approved? Are you getting good quality applications?
[17:12] <elacheche> mhall119, define "cycle"? → I'm from the new members in the board..
[17:12] <popey> elacheche: 6 months
[17:13] <popey> between releases
[17:13] <popey> (or between now and the last time we spoke to the CC)
[17:13] <elacheche> I don't have that infromation, I can chekc the LP group to have it..
[17:13] <pleia2> elacheche: it's ok, popey told us :)
[17:13]  * wxl wakes up
[17:13] <pleia2> hey wxl
[17:13] <mhall119> hi wxl
[17:13]  * wxl waves
[17:14] <elacheche> I was about to ping you wxl :D
[17:14] <wxl> i don'/t know why i didn't have this in my calendar
[17:14] <cprofitt> elacheche: good to see you are eager to learn all of this. Glad to have you on the board.
[17:14] <mhall119> what areas of the project have the recent applicants been coming from?
[17:14] <wxl> my guess is that this hapepned before i took a place on the board
[17:14] <elacheche> Thx cprofitt :)
[17:14] <wxl> mhall119: kind of all over, but there have been at least a couple canonicals, so you folks at HQ are doing a good job XD
[17:15] <pleia2> that's good to hear
[17:15] <mhall119> wxl: nice :)
[17:15] <popey> 10 since april, 17 since january (better numbers than my 'half a dozen' plucked from the air)
[17:15] <elacheche> mhall119, yeah there was some canonical people applying.. It was good to see them interested to the community
[17:15] <popey> +1
[17:15] <mhall119> elacheche: agreed
[17:15] <wxl> they also seem legitimately engaged with the community, as well, which was good
[17:15] <elacheche> yep
[17:16] <mhall119> any problems or blockers that the CC can help you with?
[17:16] <elacheche> The add of a 3rd slot was a good move as well!
[17:16] <popey> I have noticed a few of the new people are young, which is good to see too.
[17:16] <cprofitt> elacheche: yes, it is good to see Canonical employees taking an interest in the community.
[17:16]  * wxl nods
[17:16] <wxl> actually i've been mentoring a 13 year old who's really fantastic
[17:17] <popey> \o/
[17:17] <wxl> mhall119: off hand, i can't really think of anything we're struggling with currently
[17:17] <wxl> you guys?
[17:17] <popey> No, the process works, people turn up and we do our job.
[17:17]  * wxl nods
[17:17] <pleia2> glad to hear
[17:17] <wxl> applications have been strong, too
[17:17] <popey> The thing we do slip up on sometimes is 1) adding people to ~ubuntumembers and 2) telling the news team
[17:17] <popey> 1) is somewhat more critical than 2)
[17:18] <wxl> "somewhat" XD
[17:18] <popey> I think we just need to nail down who chairs each meeting and they have the responsibility of doing the admin afterwards
[17:18] <pleia2> people really do like seeing their name in the newsletter when they become a member
[17:18] <elacheche> Yeah popey.. Sometimes I see get email notification about 1) and don't know who did that
[17:18] <wxl> perhaps we should work out a rotation, popey ?
[17:18] <mhall119> popey: show is the chair currently selected, just whomever is there?
[17:18] <elacheche> I mean what board did it
[17:18] <popey> wxl: yeah, I'd be up for that
[17:18] <popey> mhall119: yeah, people have basically just put their hand up for it
[17:19] <popey> we haven't forced anyone to chair
[17:19] <popey>  
[17:19] <popey>  
[17:19] <popey> yet
[17:19] <mhall119> rotating is a good idea, people would know ahead of time when it's their turn
[17:19] <popey> be good to have rotation, I agree wxl
[17:19] <popey> they can be responsible for the reminder email too.
[17:19] <wxl> ok let's see if we can set something up by email
[17:19] <wxl> yes!
[17:19] <popey> we could add the chair to the wiki so everyone knows
[17:19] <wxl> yeah that's a great idea
[17:20] <popey> ok, I'll take an action to do that
[17:20] <wxl> thank you
[17:20] <popey> np
[17:20] <wxl> maybe we should include an unlinked wiki page that documents what needs to be done
[17:20] <wxl> for us noobs :)
[17:21] <mhall119> do we have any set goals for the number of new members in the next cycle, and if not what do you think about setting such a goal?
[17:21] <elacheche> Kilos, we started with CC :)
[17:21] <Kilos> sorry for being late all
[17:22] <PabloRubianes> I m late too
[17:22] <wxl> mhall119: i think it may be hard within the council to actually affect progress towards that goal, but it's a great idea. might encourage us to do some outreach and mentor people to be mentors to the people in their community
[17:22] <cprofitt> no problem Kilos and PabloRubianes we know that volunteers and international time zones do not always make it easy to make meetings.
[17:22] <elacheche> mhall119, we never discussed to set a members number as a goal..
[17:22] <popey> Yeah, seems an odd thing to do.
[17:22] <cprofitt> wxl: we need to keep goals attainable
[17:23] <popey> I mean, I can see why we might as a _project_ do that
[17:23] <wxl> +1 popey
[17:23] <popey> and we would obviously help participate in that
[17:23] <elacheche> We have some propostitions about 2 UOS session
[17:23] <mhall119> wxl: it would be just on the membership boards to reach those goals either, but a goal would give us somethign to take to other project teams
[17:23] <cprofitt> attaining a number of new members is not something that should be made a goal.
[17:23] <popey> it could be abused by us
[17:23] <popey> we would go round looking for any flotsam and jetsam to keep our numbers
[17:23] <wxl> true
[17:23] <cprofitt> a better goal would be to set goals with regards to making people aware of membership and all the mechanisms to obtain it
[17:24] <popey> Sounds like the CC should have that goal :)
[17:24] <mhall119> it could be, but it could also help us give membership more focus as a whole, across the Ubuntu project
[17:24] <wxl> and i think we've been working on that cprofitt
[17:24] <cprofitt> wxl: that is measurable and attainable
[17:24] <elacheche> mhall119, popey, belkins suggested 2 sessions during the next UOS → The first one is a "meet and greet" session where we introduce ourselves and answer questions that may come up (and also requests for feedback on their wiki pages, ect).  I don't care if this session is done on IRC only.  It might be the best idea for everyone.
[17:24] <elacheche> The second and final idea is do another session like in the last UOS where we discussed ideas on how to increase Membership within.
[17:24] <wxl> for example, belkinsa and i worked together to brainstorm ideas that lead to changes to the membership wiki about social capital benefits of membership https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership#The_Benefits
[17:24] <PabloRubianes> as we are getting fewer candidates, having a goal is not gonna fix that
[17:25] <wxl> based on feedback we got from contributors that didn't feel motivated to get their membership
[17:25] <mhall119> elacheche: I like that idea
[17:25] <cprofitt> wxl good stuff...
[17:25] <elacheche> We will fix the Ubuntu Members map as well.. It's outdated.. I promised to work on it asap
[17:26] <cprofitt> perhaps setting a goal of producing 'x' number of promotional items - such as creating a Youtube video about membership or something else that reaches out to Ubuntu users who are not members.
[17:26] <cprofitt> those I think are excellent goals and are attainable and measurable.
[17:26] <wxl> cprofitt: again that sounds more like something that would make a nice project, though, rather than a goal, as popey said
[17:26] <cprofitt> elacheche: the sessions at UOS would be valuable too.
[17:27] <cprofitt> the goal would be to produce 'x' resources
[17:27]  * elacheche nods
[17:27] <mhall119> cprofitt: that sounds more like a work item, not a goal
[17:27] <cprofitt> the Youtube was an example of a specific item that would be counted towards reaching the goal.
[17:27] <wxl> thanks for putting my idea into works, mhall119
[17:27] <wxl> s/idea/thought/
[17:27] <popey> Are there any goals else where in the project? Number of MOTU developers? Number of translators?
[17:27] <cprofitt> I do not want to derail this discussion on goals...
[17:27] <popey> Would seem a bit lop-sided to aim for more members, but not look at the other areas too.
[17:28] <cprofitt> http://www.hr.virginia.edu/uploads/documents/media/Writing_SMART_Goals.pdf
[17:28] <mhall119> popey: agreed, I'd like to set more goals across all of those metrics
[17:28] <cprofitt> a good resrouce for goals.
[17:28] <popey> mhall119: set that as a goal for you, "[mhall119] More goals"
[17:28] <mhall119> ok, so it sounds like I should bring this up within the CC first, and then break it down to sub-teams
[17:28] <wxl> HHAHAHAH
[17:28] <popey> +1
[17:28] <wxl> seriously, though, i think that would be wise
[17:29]  * cprofitt nods
[17:29] <cprofitt> I agree.
[17:29] <wxl> i have no reservations about setting goals, but as cprofitt said they need to be both measurable and attainable
[17:31] <mhall119> ok, that's all I have for the membership boards
[17:31] <mhall119> pleia2: cprofitt czajkowski anything else?
[17:31] <cprofitt> Just remind everyone about the upcoming election for the CC
[17:31] <pleia2> all good
[17:31] <pleia2> thanks for coming :)
[17:31] <popey> \o/
[17:31] <elacheche> o/
[17:32] <Kilos> o/
[17:32] <cprofitt> We need people to nominate qualified people to take positions on the CC
[17:32] <mhall119> thanks everyone
[17:32] <mhall119> and we will see the KC next week(?)
[17:32] <yofel> sure, most of us will try to be there if possible
[17:32] <wxl> i wouldn't mind joining the cc, too, but i don't knwo if that's reasonable considering i'm on subboards
[17:32] <PabloRubianes> ohh a notice to the CC, from the LC
[17:32] <mhall119> thanks yofel
[17:32] <wxl> is there an LC catch up upcoming PabloRubianes ?
[17:32] <mhall119> #topic open
[17:33] <PabloRubianes> we are having a call for new members soon (maybe today)
[17:33] <PabloRubianes> as jose and sergio are expiring next month
[17:33] <popey> uh, that's fun, cc and lc expiring together
[17:33] <PabloRubianes> wxl: no, but as we are here I let them know :P
[17:33] <popey> I'd argue if jose and sergio are up for it, extend them for ~3 months so it doesn't overlap with cc election
[17:33] <cprofitt> PabloRubianes: thanks for letting us know
[17:33] <mhall119> thanks PabloRubianes
[17:34] <wxl> i get the feeling jose is done popey
[17:34] <popey> :(
[17:34] <wxl> and i dont' hear/see from sergio much at all
[17:34] <jose> unfortunately, I'm not going to reapply
[17:34] <wxl> popey: just because he's busy with school, you know?
[17:34] <jose> and Sergio is now AWOL
[17:34] <wxl> oh there he is, he can speak for himself :)
[17:34] <jose> hehe :)
[17:34] <mhall119> ok, we'll put out a call for nominations
[17:34] <popey> ok
[17:34] <jose> also, is it possible to get it back to 6 members?
[17:35] <jose> we got it up to 7 because there were too many people away
[17:35] <jose> but I think things are way more stable now
[17:35] <pleia2> that makes sense
[17:35] <pleia2> we can always bump it up again if there's a problem
[17:35] <PabloRubianes> +1 on 6 members
[17:36] <jose> wxl?
[17:36] <mhall119> pleia2: cprofitt: who wants to put out the call for LC nominations?
[17:36] <wxl> jose: +1
[17:36] <popey> jose: thanks for all your work on the LC!
[17:36] <wxl> i agree, jose, thank you
[17:37] <pleia2> I can't commit to doing it today, but we'll see about getting it out
[17:37] <jose> it's my pleasure :)
[17:37] <mhall119> ok, we'll work that out ourselves
[17:37] <mhall119> any other business?
[17:37] <Kilos> one question peeps
[17:38] <Kilos> any of the existing cc members available for the next 2 years
[17:38] <Kilos> ?
[17:38] <mhall119> Kilos: ?
[17:39] <Kilos> i mean does expiring meean they gone or will some reapply
[17:39] <mhall119> Kilos: you'd have to ask us individually
[17:39] <Kilos> ah
[17:39] <popey> They have to be nominated (after being asked if they want to stand again)
[17:40] <wxl> would it be a conflict if i joined the cc while still remaining on a subboard?
[17:40] <popey> No
[17:40] <popey> At one point in the past I was on the LoCo Council, Membership Board and CC at the same time ;)
[17:40] <jose> what do you mean by a subboard?
[17:40] <wxl> yeah well that's kind of how it would be for me popey :)
[17:40] <wxl> jose: MB, LC
[17:40] <popey> the only advice I'd say is don't overcommit and burn out
[17:40]  * wxl nods
[17:41] <wxl> well, as always, thanks CC
[17:41] <wxl> and thanks to all of you wonderful MB folks as well
[17:41] <wxl> and the few of you LC people
[17:41] <wxl> and…
[17:41] <wxl> ☺
[17:41] <mhall119> thanks everyone
[17:42] <Kilos> thank you wxl
[17:42] <mhall119> anything else before I end the meeting?
[17:42] <Kilos> ty mhall119
[17:46] <mhall119> #endmeeting
[17:46] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Sep 17 17:46:27 2015 UTC.
[17:46] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-09-17-17.04.moin.txt
[17:46] <mhall119> thanks again everyone