[00:00] <Bashing-om> jcstarken: Confirmed a supported card.  HWE installed ? ' dpkg -l libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-lts-vivid '
[00:01] <jcstarken> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12432029/
[00:02] <jcstarken> Bashing-om: it is APU in the processor no video card
[00:07] <Bashing-om> jcstarken: K; even the APU requires supporting driver. As daftykins asked, is this 14.04 release with HWE ? The above will tell us if HWE installed for 14.04 .
[00:07] <jcstarken> Bashing-om: ok thank you
[00:07] <jcstarken> y
[00:12] <Bashing-om> jcstarken: Then we can take it that HWE is installed. Try: ' sudo apt-get purge fglrx* ; sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic ; sudo apt-get install fglrx ; sudo amdconfig --initial ' .
[00:16] <jcstarken> ok if pipelight is not the way to go then how do i get my amazone video and netflix working with out installing chrome
[00:16] <jcstarken> Bashing-om: it is still installing
[00:17] <reisio> if it doesn't support Flash, or H.264 or the like, you'll need pipelight
[00:17] <jcstarken> Bashing-om: when it is done will I need to update boot loader
[00:18] <Bashing-om> jcstarken: No, has nothing to do with the boot code. When finished installing, reboot the box to see the effect .
[00:22] <jcstarken> Bashing-om: it rebooted
[00:22] <jcstarken> Bashing-om: thank you
[00:23] <Bashing-om> jcstarken: NP; All look good now ?
[00:23] <jcstarken> Bashing-om: Much better, where can I read to learn what you had me do and thank you again
[00:23] <daftykins> jcstarken: you have to use chrome :P
[00:24] <jcstarken> daftykins: ok thank you
[00:27] <Bashing-om> jcstarken: That last, I can not directly advise on "where". All we did was purge the driver, re-install it and initialize the config file . As an aside if that driver work, great . there is later release one could try if there are serious problems with this driver .
[00:27] <jcstarken> Bashing-om:thank you again
[00:28] <Bashing-om> jcstarken: Welcome ! .. Hang in with 'buntu and you will learn .
[00:33] <premnath> hi all
[00:33] <reisio> bye
[00:44] <gshmu> Auto connection  VPN: VPN error ---> network offline, this is bug???
[00:45] <pbx> gshmu, unlikely a bug.  check your settings etc.
[00:45] <gshmu> pbx: when vpn ok, all network it's ok
[00:46] <liquidmetal> I just installed some updates for Ubuntu and that broke the graphics drivers. Is there a way I can avoid doing that?
[00:46] <gshmu> pbx: but vpn error, i'm offline
[00:46] <liquidmetal> Maybe installing nvidia-current-updates every night?
[00:48] <Bashing-om> liquidmetal: Are you installing the graphic's drivers from our repo ? else, broken driver on new kernel is expected .
[00:49] <mekhami> installing node js on ubuntu, how can i correctly upgrade to the latest version? using aptitude gets me 0.10.25, and sometimes uninstalls nodejs-legacy etc and i'm not sure where i need to end up
[00:51] <liquidmetal> Bashing-om, I think I'm using the standard repo for nvidia drivers. It's not a new kernel - just some updates. I tried going back to the previous version of the kernel just to be sure.
[00:51] <liquidmetal> Bashing-om, I'm on 14.04
[00:51] <john__> johnw
[00:53] <Sph3r3> Boom!  Slap mah fro!
[00:53] <Bashing-om> liquidmetal: Nvidia ? Anything relevant in the " /var/lib/dkms/ " file ?
[00:54] <liquidmetal> Bashing-om, I see nvidia-304
[00:55] <liquidmetal> Bashing-om, and kernel-3.19.0-28-generic-x86_64
[00:55] <Bashing-om> liquidmetal: OH, that is a old driver . what card are we worjing with ?
[00:55] <liquidmetal> Bashing-om, I'm using GTX 960m - that's an old card I think
[00:56] <Ahmed90> o.O 960m is old D:?
[00:57] <pressure679> Should ubuntu spin down harddisk or not with tlp? It is pretty noisy starting/stopping but even when idling as well.
[00:57] <Ahmed90> anyone knows how make steam games run with nvidia GPU?? not intel ?
[00:57] <Ahmed90> ubuntu 15.04
[00:57] <Ahmed90> optirun is not working :(
[00:58] <bazhang> try #ubuntu-steam Ahmed90
[00:58] <Ahmed90> hmm
[00:59] <Bashing-om> liquidmetal: Not an old card at all . per Nvidia, you want a late release driver, Nvidia recommends the 352 version . Double check ' lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga ; dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' to see thr hardware and the drivers installed .
[00:59] <Ahmed90> seems sleepy/dead D:
[00:59] <RevertToType> so i have a module that claims to be running but it's not actually working properly it's my wifi card how can i make sure it works ... wpa_supplicant is claiming it's unsupported on one machine but on the other (same exact model and everything) it's running fine
[01:00] <liquidmetal> Bashing-om, I'm actualy seeing 304, 340 and 352 running at the same time. How is that possible?
[01:00] <pressure679> RevertToType: If you use rtlwifi I might be able to help you.
[01:01] <RevertToType> rtlwifi? is that a packge or just mentioning the realtek cards (cause that's what it is)
[01:01] <Bashing-om> liquidmetal: Pastebin the outputs. let us see what is before we comment on "how is this possible" .
[01:02] <RevertToType> apparently laccording to lsmod rtlwifi and the actual driver are there... confirmed also in /proc/modules
[01:02] <RevertToType> but wpa_supplicant is not happy with the -d rtl8192se command pressure679
[01:04] <liquidmetal> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/vNPARkvi
[01:04] <liquidmetal> Bashing-om, any help on understanding what that output means?
[01:04] <Bashing-om> liquidmetal: Look'n at your http://pastebin.com/vNPARkvi .
[01:05] <pressure679> RevertToType: I reinstalled the driver from https://launchpad.net/~hanipouspilot/+archive/ubuntu/rtlwifi , set it to ignore IPv6
[01:06] <pressure679> RevertToType: but my problem was that it disconnected every now and then.
[01:06] <RevertToType> pressure679: mine was that before while using wext
[01:06] <pressure679> Don't know if that will solve your wpa problem as well.
[01:06] <RevertToType> i'd like to use the appropriate dirver seeing as it's working a-ok on the other one (clean install today)
[01:06] <RevertToType> so baffled
[01:07] <knob> Hello everyone.  Some help please.  I connected a second monitor.  I was getting Mirrored Displays.  So I check-marked the "Primary Display" on one of them.  Monitors then went black, and login screen.  Now I am stuck in a login loop - as soon as I login, I get a black screen with: bbswitch: no discrete VGA device found.
[01:07] <knob> Any idea how to fix this?
[01:07] <pressure679> You could use "git clone" command on the lwfingers github rtlwifi repo an "make install" the package yourself.
[01:08] <pressure679> My problem with rtlwifi/rtl8723be have persisted since 12.04.
[01:09] <liquidmetal> Bashing-om, I need to run and get on a bus... will be back in a bit
[01:10] <Bashing-om> liquidmetal: Ouch, Well there is a mess here to clean up . As to what is and understanding, In the 1st colume of the 'dpkg' output is a "status" here we look at 'rc' .. where it is (R)emoved but (C)onfig files remain . I do see several conflicts.
[01:10] <RawShock> hi folks
[01:13] <knob> halp plz
[01:13] <xangua> !ask | knob
[01:18] <RawShock> i'd love to ask an ios questtion, if I can
[01:18] <RawShock> or at least be shown a room on here it is altight to ask it
[01:18] <Bashing-om> RawShock: Define "ios" for me .
[01:20] <RawShock> iOS apple's sort of OS?
[01:20] <RawShock> well mobile os
[01:20] <RawShock> i don't wish to break an in chan rule unintentionally
[01:22] <bazhang>  /msg alis list ios  RawShock
[01:22] <bazhang> search for a channel for ios with that RawShock
[01:23] <Bashing-om> RawShock: Ask the service bot ' /msg alis list * -topic *apple* ' / There are many hits for a channel .
[01:23] <RawShock> sweet thanks guys
[01:23] <nug700> where can i get font "*-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-11-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1"
[01:24] <nug700> getting an error from maya saying it can't be found
[01:45] <delt> Hello
[01:46] <delt> i have just a few files i want to package into a .deb file... but they have to be installed at a specific path. How should i do this?
[01:53] <Geo> Hi, using mdadm to assemble a previously running 12-disk RAID10, I get the error, "mdadm: /dev/md0 assembled from 10 drives and 1 spare - not enough to start the array."
[01:53] <Geo> How can I tell it to use the spare?
[01:53] <BadConnection> Anyone have a how-to on creating packages to install with plasmapkg2 specifically splash screens?
[02:10] <head8debian> What is/was the benchmarking program that came with lubuntu 14.04?
[02:10] <head8debian> I cannot find its name.
[02:10] <head8debian> At least i think it was lubuntu 14.04
[02:19] <RobWilco> for some reason my Dell Vostro 1500 wont boot insto ubuntu 15.04 after installation though the livecd or usb works fine
[02:20] <RobWilco> systemd seems to hang on loading the appropriate module for the integrated graphics (i965)
[02:21] <RobWilco> exit
[02:22] <Bashing-om> 3 minutes < or less and gone .
[02:23] <veXx> how do properly disable avahi-daemon from auto starting on ubuntu 14.04? i have tried using a .override file, update-rc.d avahid-daemon disable. Ive looked through multiple stack exchanges and google.
[02:28] <acelite> hello
[02:29] <reisio> 'lo
[02:29] <reisio> veXx: might start with seeing what even deps it in first
[02:29] <reisio> avahi is not required for anything IME
[02:30] <reisio> time to disable apt recommends, maybe
[02:31] <head8debian> Ah, i found it.
[02:31] <head8debian> hardbench.
[02:34] <reisio> gj
[02:35] <veXx> heh, posted in wrong channel
[02:38] <Geo> Hi, using mdadm to assemble a previously running 12-disk RAID10, I get the error, "mdadm: /dev/md0 assembled from 10 drives and 1 spare - not enough to start the array." How do I tell it to use the spare?
[02:51] <liquidmetal> Bashing-om, you around?
[02:53] <ubuntu> Hello
[02:54] <Thunderguy> Hey, I noticed my system got laggy over the last few months... I found that something is eating 100% CPU, but I can't tell what it is, top shows no processes and everything is always percented into "WA"
[02:54] <elCA> hola
[02:54] <Guest93123> Hello
[02:54] <Thunderguy> My load average is above 3 most of the time
[02:54] <reisio> shalom
[02:54] <Guest93123> Anyone interested in a troubleshooting challenge? :3
[02:55] <Thunderguy> correction: Top shows processes, but nothing accounting for the insane CPU usage
[02:56] <shoot2kill> Hey all i see ubuntu desktops with fire and the windows drop down how do you add that?
[02:57] <bazhang> compiz shoot2kill
[02:57] <Guest93123> I'm having trouble with a 2x4 usb hub on 15.04...
[02:57] <shoot2kill> thats the program i need?
[02:57] <reisio> trouble,!
[02:58] <bazhang> !ccsm
[02:58] <TJ-> Thunderguy: check 'iotop' it may be  disk I/O
[03:00] <Thunderguy> TJ-: Nifty command... hmm nothing big going thru there though, I just updated, maybe I'll try a reboot just to see
[03:01] <shoot2kill> compiz says its installed how do i access it ?
[03:01] <bazhang> compizconfig-settings-manager shoot2kill
[03:02] <Geo> Hi, using mdadm to assemble a previously running 12-disk RAID10, I get the error, "mdadm: /dev/md0 assembled from 10 drives and 1 spare - not enough to start the array." How do I tell it to use the spare?
[03:02] <TJ-> Thunderguy: it could be the platform ACPI settings affecting it
[03:03] <shoot2kill> baz sorry im only new to ubuntu.im not sure what ya telling me to do there.
[03:03] <bazhang> shoot2kill, install it
[03:03] <Guest93123> I'm having trouble with a 2x4 usb hub on 15.04... On initial connection, attached devices are detected but when switching to another machine, devices attached to the usb hub are not detected (happens on both ubuntu machines) Reseating the hub from the PC restores connectivity, as does rebooting the machine the hub is currently pointing to
[03:03] <shoot2kill> it is installed
[03:04] <bazhang> then run it shoot2kill
[03:04] <shoot2kill> thats where im having trouble...lol ....
[03:05] <shoot2kill> its says its installed when i search computer for it its not there
[03:06] <Thunderguy> TJ-: Well this time I started and I didn't start an Xdesktop, so definetly something in the CLI/Main environment or hardware hmmm
[03:07] <netameta> can more then 1 user or group own a folder ?
[03:07] <Guest93123> maybe i can tackle this problem this way... Is there a way to force refresh usb devices similar to reboot in ubuntu?
[03:07] <Guest93123> .. akin to restarting a windows service..
[03:07] <netameta> Or in this case i would add both users into another group and make this group the owner ?
[03:07] <Guest93123> have a look into nesting groups netameta
[03:08] <TJ-> Thunderguy: "cat /proc/cmdline" check if you've got some forgotten additional kernel options set
[03:08] <shoot2kill> sorry baz i think i installed the wrong compiz i got it now ...lol sorry about that mate thanks for your help
[03:08] <Thunderguy> TJ-: ro quiet splash
[03:09] <netameta> Guest93123, where can i read about that ?
[03:09] <Thunderguy> TJ-: Okay something in syslog is turning up something
[03:10] <Thunderguy> TJ-: A lot of " ata6 " errors hmm
[03:10] <Guest93123> this might answer your question netameta http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/47645/group-within-group-file-permissions
[03:13] <shoot2kill> ok so i have install compiz congfig manger how do i start making effects take place
[03:16] <Guest93123> sudo modprobe -r usb-storage   this returns "Fatal: module usb_storage is in use" but sudo lsusb does not show any usb storage devices connected
[03:18] <TJ-> Thunderguy: thought that might be the case; failing drive, or controller/cable interface issues?
[03:20] <Thunderguy> TJ-: I have 4 drives, hmm, 2 optical, 2 hard disks, all sata, 1 of the hard disks is 6 years old, and if it is failing it's okay, hmm how do I know which disk is failing?
[03:21] <Geo> Thunderguy: it should list sd[a, b, c, etc] in the syslog on one of those errors?
[03:22] <Thunderguy> sr 5:0:0:0: CDB <- could this mean anything useful?
[03:23] <Geo> not really, to me anyways
[03:23] <Geo> you dont see a device name? sda? sdb?
[03:23] <Geo> maybe post the log somewhere to look at
[03:23] <TJ-> Thunderguy: look for ata6: "ls -l /sys/class/scsi_disk/ | grep ata6"
[03:23] <shoot2kill> ok guys i installed compiz config manger and plugins but im not sure if the plugins installed under effects people on youtube seem to have alot more options
[03:24] <shoot2kill> i only have 3 options under effects
[03:25] <Thunderguy> TJ-: Interesting, it greps nothing, but when I grep ata by itself, it only sees an ata1 and an ata2
[03:25] <TJ-> Thunderguy: Then it isn't presenting as a SCSI disk
[03:25] <Thunderguy> TJ-: So an optical?
[03:26] <TJ-> Thunderguy: try "ls -l /sys/class/scsi_host/* | grep ata8"
[03:26] <TJ-> Thunderguy: or even ata6 :D
[03:26] <Thunderguy> TJ-: Found something on ata6: /sys/class/scsi_host/host5
[03:29] <Thunderguy> TJ-: ouch, so I have 2 identical dvd-rw's installed, well for being identical when you open and close them one of them makes a different sound ( which it shoudn't make ) unfortunetly...... I don't know which sound is normal
[03:30] <TJ-> Thunderguy: This should help you identify the correct block device: "ls -l /sys/class/scsi_host/host5/device/target5\:0\:0/5\:0\:0\:0/block/"
[03:30] <TJ-> Thunderguy: if that gives a file/directory not found error, we may need widen the scope
[03:31] <genewitch> when i SSH into ubuntu server it seems to take forever for the prompt to show up, compared to other linux on the same hardware
[03:31] <Thunderguy> TJ-: Yeah not found :(
[03:33] <TJ-> Thunderguy: This should help you identify the correct block device: "ls -l /sys/class/scsi_host/host5/device/target[1-9]\:0\:0/[1-9]\:0\:0\:0/block/"
[03:33] <TJ-> Thunderguy: that added ranges for the host numbers
[03:33] <srwood>  /msg NickServ identify chupa1
[03:34] <TJ-> srwood: time to change that password real fast!
[03:36] <liquidmetal> TJ-, are you TJ Holoway chuck?
[03:39] <Thunderguy> TJ-: It didn't... but Im playing with some things to see if it will work, I dont really know what im doing but I did lshw
[03:40] <srwood> join #ubuntu-touch
[03:42] <TJ-> Thunderguy: OK, then you need to manually follow the device path to get to the sdX device. Use 'ls -l' and progressively add the next directory path segment manually. Start from "ls -l /sys/class/scsi_host/host5/device/" - identify the correct "target:/XXXX" and add that to the path, repeat, and identify the raw number, add that, repeat, and you should see the 'block' node, add that, and you'll get the device
[03:42] <TJ-> name
[03:42] <kamal__> hi
[03:44] <TJ-> Thunderguy: also, "lsblk -S" will help match block device to SCSI host number
[03:49] <Thunderguy> TJ-: I opened the case and I saw only 4 SATA ports, but what's bothering me is there are no IDE ports, however in lshw, there are 2 ide ports ( mystery ports, since those ports are not physically on the MB ) but they are referencing the correct driver pata_amd
[03:50] <TJ-> Thunderguy: often controller chips have both SATA/PATA support, but PATA isn't made physically present for devices on the Mobo.
[03:52] <Thunderguy> TJ-: ide 1 and ide 2 use driver sata_nv and ide0 uses pata_amd, and Ive seen pata_amd somewhere in something very recently, like 15 mins recently
[03:52] <Thunderguy> TJ-: IDE0 also said: physical ID: 6
[03:55] <TJ-> Thunderguy: all the info is in the sysfs; you just need to follow the device paths to the block device
[03:56] <Thunderguy> cat /sys/class/scsi_host/host5/proc_name returns: pata_amd
[04:02] <TJ-> Thunderguy: Can you "dmesg | pastebinit" ?
[04:05] <Thunderguy> http://pastebin.com/QMLNYJXp
[04:05] <Thunderguy> TJ-: I don't know why it's saying ata4 on dmesg, hmm perhaps it changed on the reboot
[04:06] <TJ-> Thunderguy: It's a SATA removable-media device; (sr)
[04:06] <Thunderguy> TJ-: removable?
[04:07] <Thunderguy> TJ-: As in, USB?
[04:07] <TJ-> Thunderguy: as in DVD/CD
[04:07] <Thunderguy> TJ-: Okay, so do you think one of them went "bad"?
[04:08] <TJ-> Thunderguy: the failures are the controller trying to negotiate the link protocol/speed, and failing for both DMA and PIO modes. The drive is either fried or that cable is damaged
[04:08] <TJ-> Thunderguy: SATA is hot-plug. monitor the log "tail -f /var/log/dmesg" and pull each DVD/CD cable in turn, see which stops the errors being reported
[04:09] <Thunderguy> TJ-: I figured it out, I did a cd test, one of them recognized a disc the other did not
[04:09] <Thunderguy> TJ-: hmmm, so its not connecting huh? it is ejecting tho
[04:09] <TJ-> Thunderguy: so that constant trying to bring the link up was causing the kernel to pause in I/O wait, which was why 'top' didn't reveal anything
[04:10] <Thunderguy> TJ-: Ah, see that must be why my cpu is hanging all the time then?
[04:11] <Thunderguy> TJ-: BRB, I'm gonna disconnect the cable physically ( I'm ircing from cell phone )
[04:15] <Thunderguy> TJ-: AHA! I have experienced a very fast boot up and cpu is holding 98.5% idle
[04:15] <Thunderguy> TJ-: Thank you! :)
[04:15] <TJ-> Thunderguy: :)
[04:15] <Thunderguy> TJ-: Can you believe I let that go for months?
[04:15] <TJ-> Thunderguy: I can believe anything :D
[04:15] <TJ-> Thunderguy: Windows must have trained you well to expect such behaviour :)
[04:16] <Thunderguy> TJ-: I rarely use the main pc anymore, I have a quiet ARM server and a cell phone im always on, and with so many cores even tho the pc was really slow it still did basic gmail and office functions... lol
[04:16] <Thunderguy> haha
[04:17] <Thunderguy> TJ-: It's time for Netflix functions, you might be aware of this, but netflix runs on ubuntu....
[04:17] <Thunderguy> Not very good though with I/O errors hanging the CPU.
[04:18] <Thunderguy> well not even natively anyway
[04:20] <Geo> Hi, using mdadm to assemble a previously running 12-disk RAID10, I get the error, "mdadm: /dev/md0 assembled from 10 drives and 1 spare - not enough to start the array." How do I tell it to use the spare?
[04:21] <mafrasi2> is it possible to configure NFS so that the server mounts a directory of the client?
[04:21] <mafrasi2> or any other file server except samba?
[04:22] <robert-network> I need some real ubuntu help
[04:22] <robert-network> can anyone help?
[04:22] <TJ-> Geo: 10+1 != 12
[04:25] <robert-network> i have Kali (KDE) reporistories installed into my Ubuntu (GNOME) 15.10 OS and now Kali is starting to screw up a few of my Gnome Services... I would love to re-format and start over but my laptop screen is broken and i cant fresh install on a secondary monitor
[04:26] <Geo> TJ: right, a drive failed
[04:27] <Geo> I can't rebuild without having 11, according to mdadm- the spare would be the 11th
[04:27] <TJ-> Geo: your report suggests the array is actually 10-drives ... did it have 2 spares originally?
[04:28] <Geo> no, its had 12
[04:28] <robert-network> i have Kali (KDE) reporistories installed into my Ubuntu (GNOME) 15.10 OS and now Kali is starting to screw up a few of my Gnome
[04:28] <Geo> after a power failure, one got readded as a spare after rebuilding (mdadm did it, not me). shortly thereafter, another drive failed
[04:29] <Geo> what was 12 turned into 10 active, 1 spare, 1 dead
[04:30] <Foxhoundz> how do I check the system logs
[04:30] <Foxhoundz> with...ugh...systemd
[04:30] <reisio> learn binary
[04:30]  * reisio giggles
[04:30] <rww> ...
[04:30] <Foxhoundz> har har
[04:30] <reisio> c'mon :p
[04:30] <SJr> My pals ubuntu laptop has lost wifi connectivity.
[04:30] <Foxhoundz> I need to do something similar to
[04:30] <Foxhoundz> tail -F /var/log/syslog
[04:30] <Foxhoundz> how do I do this now
[04:30] <rww> no idea if systemd on Ubuntu outputs to syslog by default, but if not, look into journalctl
[04:31] <reisio> journalctl or something
[04:31] <reisio> yeah
[04:31] <SJr> BCM4352 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 03)
[04:31] <Foxhoundz> also, why is systemctl not present
[04:31] <rww> Foxhoundz: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[04:32] <SJr> When I run depmod -a I get an error " /lib/modules/3.19.0-28-generic/updates/dkms/wl.ko: Invalid argument"
[04:32] <Foxhoundz> Ubuntu Server 14.04 LTS
[04:32] <SJr> Running Ubuntu 15.04
[04:32] <rww> Foxhoundz: 14.04 doesn't use systemd.
[04:32] <Foxhoundz> rww: ...
[04:32] <rww> It was in the repositories in 14.10, and was made default in 15.04.
[04:33] <robert-network> ?
[04:33] <robert-network> anyone help
[04:34] <robert-network> ?
[04:34] <rww> robert-network: installing repositories from other distributions into Ubuntu is not supported and (as you've found) is liable to make an unsupportable mess out of things
[04:35] <cfhowlett> robert-network, in other words; do no do that!
[04:37] <Hamled> Is piping a keyboard layout to loadkeys the only way to remap a key (specifically capslock -> control) in ubuntu 14.04 with no X installed?
[04:37] <robert-network> ok thanks... next question... is it possible to do a Fresh install on a secondary External VGA without being able to set any Grub parameters on my "main" screen
[04:37] <Hamled> I tried setting the mapping in /etc/console-setup/remap.inc but it doesn't seem to take
[04:39] <cfhowlett> robert-network, assuming you meant "HDD" and not "VGA" ... yes
[04:39] <robert-network> lol... i meant External VGA
[04:40] <cfhowlett> vga = monitor display.  so far as I know, no way to install ubuntu to a monitor
[04:41] <rww> ...
[04:41] <Hamled> cfhowlett, maybe robert-network means set it up /using/ such a monitor?
[04:41] <rww> cfhowlett: he has a laptop. the built-in screen doesn't work. he wants to use an external screen during setup instead
[04:41] <rww> this is all rather obvious.
[04:41] <cfhowlett> rww, just entered the convo and did not have that essential info ... far from obvious but thank you for clarifying
[04:41] <robert-network> lol... sorry bad grammer, getting tired... yes i mean install the OS onto my hardrive but by using a secondary montitor...
[04:42] <rww> cfhowlett: you had the same info I did.
[04:42] <Hamled> robert-network, should be relatively easy to try it out right? The screen will work/not work long before you actually install anything
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: morning mate
[04:42] <cfhowlett> robert-network, yes, indeed it is possible
[04:42] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, yowza^2!
[04:43] <robert-network> my main laptop monitor is broken and have a monitor plugged into my VGA card.... how would i be able to install using my second montitor without setting up Grub parameters todo so
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> im having issues to get wifi working on 14.04.3 for an offline box, lshw shows my ralink 2800pci wifi card but somehow doesnt wanna load:  phy0: rt2800_probe_rt: error invalid RT chipset 0xffff rev ffff detected syslog error
[04:44] <robert-network> i cannot see the grub menu on my secondary monitor
[04:44] <Lucifer> oi
[04:46] <Hamled> robert-network, if you know the parameters you might be able to take a blind stab at typing in all the commands
[04:46] <Hamled> also what is the installation medium
[04:48] <robert-network> i have tried, and a blind stab wont work... i am reduced to using a Yumi PenDrive... /cdrom just took a crap
[04:49] <cfhowlett> robert-network, will the hardware key switch to the external display?
[04:49] <cfhowlett> e.g. on my dell lappy, f4 = external display
[04:50] <Hamled> robert-network, well with the pendrive you might be able to modify the grub parameters that are in there by default
[04:50] <robert-network> i have a sony vaio... does f4 work during a Boot process though?
[04:50] <Hamled> I have no clue where on the installation filesystem that is (I assume it's part of the packaged filesystem bit)
[04:53] <cfhowlett> robert-network, I seem to recall being able to access externals while live booting, but it's been a while.  also, your key is likely different from mine.
[04:54] <cfhowlett> actually, while in live session, not live booting as that would still be the grub menu.
[04:54] <Hamled> Is piping a keyboard layout to loadkeys the only way to remap a key (specifically capslock -> control) in ubuntu 14.04 with no X installed?
[04:56] <robert-network> i used to be able to view boot on Externalsm, but since installing Kali repos into my Ubuntu it has changed my bootscreen and now does not appear on my second monitor even during cryptsetup
[04:57] <shooter2kill> hey all im trying to install steam on my computer and getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/12434903/
[04:59] <rritoch> Hi, has anyone successfully updated to kubuntu werewolf?
[05:01] <rritoch> I've run into the following problem : http://pastebin.com/r9Ey5s7U
[05:01] <rritoch> Can anyone advise how to fix the problem or where to report the problem to?
[05:04] <TJ-> rritoch: best to ask in #kubuntu - the release-upgrader has some KDE specific changes.
[05:04] <rritoch> TJ-: Ok thanks.
[05:06] <rritoch> I just found a bug report on this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1464330
[05:06] <shooter2kill> just so everyone knows its a bug that has been listed you dont seem able to install it from software centre of steam website sudo get-apt steam works though
[05:06] <shooter2kill> go old sudo
[05:07] <robert-network> thanks guys.. i really appreciate the help i will give it a shot!
[05:08] <TJ-> rritoch: that's a dupe. the original indicates the fixed package should be available from the main archive, and the mirrors should see it shortly after.
[05:10] <rritoch> TJ-: Well, I'm going to try the suggested patch. This poor system needs a legitimate upgrade. It's been through about 4 versions of debian and 3 versions of ubuntu, all via dirty updates by just changing the sources list.
[05:10] <TJ-> rritoch: just pull in the fixed packaged directly
[05:11] <ghao> how can i do hotspot from my lap
[05:16] <rritoch> TJ-: Ok, so Ineed to update to vivid-proposed and then run the update to wily. Seems a bit convoluted.
[05:32] <anotherlinuxnoob> Is anyone here knowledgeable about ipmi on >10 year old server hardware?
[05:41] <ubuntu> hello
[05:41] <JohnQ> Can anyone give me a hand with debugging some inneternet connectivity issues?  "ping raw.githubusercontent.com" works great... but "wget -O speedtest-cli https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sivel/speedtest-cli/master/speedtest_cli.py" gives me a "failed: Connection refused.".  I CAN access the same URL from a web browser on a different machine on the network.
[05:41] <JohnQ> Similarly, about half the time when I do an "apt-get update" I get: "Could not connect to http.us.debian.org:80 (68.87.91.199). - connect (110: Connection timed out)"  The other half of the time it works, but says ": GPG error: http://http.us.debian.org stable Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2"
[05:41] <Guest40358> JohnQ
[05:41] <JohnQ> Yep?
[05:43] <TJ-> JohnQ: Looks like the connection is going through a proxy
[05:44] <JohnQ> Hm.  It shoudln't be.  Just connected directly to a cable modem.
[05:44] <JohnQ> Comcast
[05:56] <anotherlinuxnoob> I have a motherboard that will return temperature values when using "ipmi-sensors", but it will not return values when using "ipmitool sensor".  Thoughts?
[06:11] <ubuntu__> hi
[06:15] <ThomasB> test
[06:18] <Sandy> hi
[06:18] <Matt_teni> hello everyone, does anyone know how to check intel hd graphic are working on ubuntu machine?
[06:19] <Matt_teni> I think they are considering how smooth firefox runs but i'm not sure if its cpu usage or intel hd workin
[06:21] <PCatinean> Could someone please help me setup vsftpd?
[06:23] <OerHeks> Matt_teni, intel GPUs are supported by the kernel for some time now, so it is hardware.
[06:25] <OerHeks> PCatinean, there is a wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/vsftpd and a simple setup https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-vsftpd-on-ubuntu-12-04
[06:27] <b4mz> quit
[06:39] <sachin_a> I am using ubuntu 14.04.3 on my acer aspire. When I open file manager or other , only half of text are displayed. How can i solve this?
[06:39] <penos> other?
[06:39] <penos> text?
[06:40] <sachin_a> terminal , fire fox etc
[06:40] <penos> wut text?
[06:40] <sachin_a> like name of folders..
[06:46] <shooter2kill> hey all im have trouble installing mediatomb
[06:47] <XeroXer> .
[06:47] <shooter2kill> mediatomb keeps saying check your internet connection ?
[06:48] <PCatinean> Could someone tell me, because I have been using google for this problem until yesterday, if vsftpd does not allow the chroot directory to not be writeable, how can the user login and write to his directory/upload?
[06:53] <wileee> PCatinean, not familiar but the chroot reference here has a permissions,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/vsftpd
[07:01] <gox39> hi people, I just did an "apt-get upgrade" and I got this message all of the sudden: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! gitlab-ce
[07:01] <gox39> how do I fix that?
[07:03] <PCatinean> wileee, I've been through that and still loads of problems
[07:03] <OerHeks> !info gitlab-ce
[07:04] <OerHeks> gox39, how did you install it? added a source without key?
[07:05] <gox39> OerHeks: I installed gitlab from gitlab.com
[07:05] <sachin_a> The names of my folders and the menus are not displayed correctly . It was working fine before. How can I solve this?
[07:06] <OerHeks> gox39, i see this, https://about.gitlab.com/downloads/#ubuntu1404 , nice tutorial, but no key to make sure the package are authentic.
[07:06] <gox39> ture
[07:08] <gox39> *true
[07:10] <OerHeks> gox39, hmm looking @ https://packages.gitlab.com/gitlab/gitlab-ce/install i see " curl https://packages.gitlab.com/gpg.key 2> /dev/null | apt-key add - &>/dev/null    "  did you add this key ?
[07:11] <gox39> OerHeks: can you give me the link?
[07:11] <OerHeks> you can check in softwarecenter > edit > sources > authentication
[07:11] <OerHeks> ??
[07:12] <OerHeks> i gave you the link
[07:12] <OerHeks> it is the deb script
[07:12] <gox39> OerHeks: I mean from where did you  copied it from
[07:13] <OerHeks> see the deb script, scroll down to the end
[07:20] <shooter2kill> hey all i have install samba on ubuntu 14 is there anything else i have to do to get it to share
[07:20] <shooter2kill> thanks
[07:21] <Fod_> Morning guys... i done a pretty stupid thing yesterday. i think i deleted a key out of my server. Now i cant log into it via putty. i know all the passwords, root is disabled. anyway of re-adding that key?
[07:22] <Fod_> all putty is saying is - no supported authentication methods available server sent publickey
[07:22] <OerHeks> shooter2kill, there is a nice wiki >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba >>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaServerGuide
[07:22] <TJ-> Fod_: if passwords are disabled for SSH you'll need console access
[07:23] <StathisA> I got some problems with a usb wifi dongle - TL-722WN using the ath9k driver afaik - It starts the connection the the AP then after some time (usually sooner rather than later) I get disconected or crashed. Any ideas on how can this be fixed?
[07:24] <Fod_> TJ: i'm using Linode. would that be lish?
[07:24] <TJ-> Fod_: Yes
[07:25] <Fod_> TJ- i love you! just logged in, now i've forgotten how to add my public key
[07:27] <shooter2kill> yep all is good
[07:27] <shooter2kill> working fine
[07:28] <icedwater> Is there a way to check what caused a lag spike after it's done? I mean, top doesn't show history, right?
[07:29] <hateball> icedwater: what "lag" are you talking about?
[07:29] <TJ-> Fod_: best workaround is enable Passwords for a minute, then on the client do 'ssh-copy-id ...' to put the public key in place, test, then disable Password auth again
[07:29] <hateball> network latency would not show in top to begin with
[07:31] <icedwater> hateball: as it turns out the system was unresponsive because of some JS running in one browser tab. A dialog popped up informing me of this. But I was going to go to top to see where it came from.
[07:33] <icedwater> Yeah, I probably shouldn't have used the word lag. But I was going to see if there was anything hogging the processor.
[07:34] <hateball> icedwater: you could use something like nmon
[07:34] <hateball> perhaps there are better apps for logging
[07:37] <medfly> hey. how do I edit the hosts file so it works on Ubuntu? it seems to not like the normal syntax. I'm trying to redirect a domain to localhost.
[07:38] <medfly> I can just access the non-local site normally for some reason
[07:41] <teks> Hi. I have 7 yr old laptop w/2GB ram its CPU supports 64-bit. Should I install 32-bit or 64-bit ubuntu?
[07:41] <guest435345> 32-bit. No need for 64-bit on low-end machines with little ram.
[07:43] <OerHeks> teks, 64 bit is no problem, 2 gb is minimum, i think
[07:44] <OerHeks> in fact: 32 bit will run slower on that machine, maybe .5%, but slower.
[07:44] <icedwater> hateball: thanks.
[07:44] <ngarcia_v2> hi to all
[07:44] <magnolia> what is "Processor microcode firmware for Intel CPUs from intel-microcode" in system settings > software & updates > additional drivers ? do I need to check and use it ? i3 2.2 ghz processor
[07:44] <ngarcia_v2> i'm new in this world
[07:45] <ngarcia_v2> :)
[07:45] <ngarcia_v2> i have a small problem i need help
[07:45] <TJ-> magnolia: it is patches for bugs in the Intel CPUs
[07:45] <ngarcia_v2> anybody can help me ?
[07:45] <ngarcia_v2> i'm noob in linux
[07:46] <magnolia> TJ-: do I need this firmware ? i3 2.2 ghz processor
[07:46] <Lyze> !ask
[07:46] <TJ-> magnolia: it wouldn't be offered if it wasn't appropriate
[07:46] <OerHeks> magnolia, it is an update for newer CPUs, check https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24661/Linux-Processor-Microcode-Data-File
[07:48] <Lyze> !ask | ngarcia_v2
[07:49] <medfly> hi, I'd liek to edit my hosts file, but it doesn't work the same as it does in other systems. how do I make it work in Ubuntu?
[07:50] <medfly> oh, hm. it just does now
[07:51] <ngarcia_v2> i have too many questions i need support please and if is possible in english
[07:51] <ngarcia_v2> sorry in spanish
[07:51] <ngarcia_v2> i need help in spanish
[07:51] <icedwater> Try #ubuntu_es
[07:51] <OerHeks> !es
[07:51] <magnolia> TJ-: OerHeks ok, I get it but its kinda mandatory like some major bux fix or just few performance updates ?
[07:52] <Organicanarchy> hey can I install Ubuntu on an external drive
[07:52] <Organicanarchy> and be able to boot into windows without it?
[07:52] <somsip> Organicanarchy: yes
[07:52] <Organicanarchy> somsip, will I be able to boot into windows on my main drive withoout it?
[07:52] <somsip> Organicanarchy: yes
[07:53] <Organicanarchy> somsip, do I have to installl grub to my main disk or the external?
[07:53] <somsip> Organicanarchy: external
[07:53] <Organicanarchy> ok so then if the external isnt connected it just boots to the main drive like normal?
[07:53] <somsip> Organicanarchy: it would probably easier to keep it separate from what you say you need
[07:54] <somsip> Organicanarchy: yes
[07:54] <Twirl> hello, anyone knows an alternative to gnome or w/e that has rename/delete feature from the open file dialog or save file dialog?
[07:54] <icedwater> ngarcia_v2: ir a #ubuntu-es para ayuda en español
[07:54] <Organicanarchy> somsip, thanks a ton!
[07:54] <somsip> Organicanarchy: np
[07:55] <twstxgha> hey
[07:55] <TJ-> magnolia: microcode updates are for processor bugs
[07:56] <twstxgha> how do i found out if i usebr on windows
[07:56] <twstxgha> and is windows on hd0 gpt1
[07:56] <twstxgha> my grub loader doesnt work fork windows im editing custom_40 now..
[07:57] <twstxgha> mbr on windows*
[07:58] <twstxgha> tj-
[07:58] <twstxgha> are u seeing my msgs?
[07:58] <Wug> twstxgha: windows is wherever you installed it
[07:58] <twstxgha> ok how to check it
[07:58] <twstxgha> i forgot where i installed it
[07:58] <Wug> if you're not sure, mount the partitions and look for the windows install until you find it
[07:58] <twstxgha> df h shows me nothing
[07:59] <Wug> you'll probably have to manually mount them
[07:59] <Wug> another thing you can do is run sudo fdisk -l
[07:59] <twstxgha> ok i see one and only partition in ubuntu
[07:59] <twstxgha> 500gb where win is
[08:00] <Wug> fdisk doesn't work with gpt disks so if you can see the windows partition in its output then it's definitely mbr
[08:00] <twstxgha> i camt see it
[08:00] <twstxgha> df h doesnt sh9w me any 419gh drive
[08:01] <twstxgha> but i see it in nautilus
[08:01] <Wug> that's because it's not mounted
[08:01] <twstxgha> it is
[08:01] <twstxgha> i mounted it when i clicked on it
[08:01] <Wug> find it in df -h by mount point
[08:02] <Wug> it's probably in /media/something
[08:02] <twstxgha> ok its sda2
[08:02] <twstxgha> its showing it
[08:02] <twstxgha> what does thay mean
[08:02] <twstxgha> im on mbr?
[08:02] <Wug> it's kind of scary that you're messing around with partitions if you don't know which ones are which
[08:02] <Wug> :/
[08:02] <Wug> anyway run sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[08:03] <twstxgha> 1 or l
[08:03] <twstxgha> and dev sda or sda2?
[08:03] <Lyze> lowercase L
[08:03] <Wug> just copy and paste it
[08:03] <twstxgha> im on phone
[08:03] <twstxgha> got no net :(
[08:03] <shooter2kill> hey all how do i get the taskbar on the bottom
[08:03] <Wug> ok. yes it's a lowecase L
[08:04] <Wug> if it lists one GPT partition, then it's gpt. if it lists anything else, it's mbr
[08:04] <twstxgha> oj bunch of stuff for sda
[08:04] <Wug> sounds like mbr then
[08:04] <twstxgha> sda1 is boot
[08:05] <twstxgha> sda2 is ntfs/exfat
[08:05] <twstxgha> same goes for sda1 too
[08:05] <twstxgha> hpfs/ntfs/exfat
[08:05] <samgranger> Hey guys - I need to do a find and replace on an sql file (8gb) - what's the best method? sed?
[08:05] <Wug> why don't you have network
[08:05] <OerHeks> shooter2kill, not, unity sidepanel is hardcoded.
[08:05] <twstxgha> does that mean win is main boot loader not grub?
[08:05] <Wug> it would be really convenient if you could just pastebin the output of fdisk
[08:06] <twstxgha> i cant in on phone
[08:06] <Lyze> twstxgha:hotspot? … or make a photo
[08:06] <twstxgha> ok photo made
[08:07] <Wug> /dev/sda2 is, I think, hd0 mbr1
[08:07] <bijan_> When I enter "hostname –fqdn" it outputs "hostname: the specified hostname is invalid" what to do?
[08:07] <bijan_> sendmail is throwing errors
[08:07] <twstxgha> not gpt1?
[08:07] <UNIm95> Hi 2 all. I think kernel 3.13-64-generic has bug. I'm getting kernel panic with this kernel on 2 different PC's.
[08:07] <UNIm95> One Desktop with Athlon x2 4800+, other toshiba tecra laptop.
[08:07] <Wug> twstxgha: no, its not a gpt disk
[08:08] <Wug> UNIm95: are you doing something in particular that triggers it or is it happening randomly
[08:08] <Wug> anything in the logs?
[08:08] <bigsmall> ZFS support linux by default now !
[08:09] <twstxgha> osec uploading
[08:09] <twstxgha> to imgur
[08:09] <teks> samgranger: sed is for text file
[08:09] <UNIm95> The strangest thing is that desktop has 32 bit kernel and laptop 64 bit.
[08:09] <UNIm95> Wug Randomly.
[08:10] <samgranger> teks, i could essentially rename sql file to txt
[08:10] <samgranger> it's all plaintext at the end of the day (sql)
[08:10] <hassanwhizkid> hey
[08:11] <hassanwhizkid> :D
[08:11] <teks> samgranger: 8gb of sql in text? dont get it, sorry
[08:11] <UNIm95> Wug each time i get other error message.
[08:11] <twstxgha> hd1,msdos1 should work to load windows?
[08:11] <twstxgha>  ive got unknown folesystem now when itried to load 2in8
[08:12] <twstxgha> win8
[08:12] <Wug> twstxgha: I think probably. if it doesn't work try msdos2
[08:12] <Wug> I'm pretty sure partitions are zero indexed but not 100% sure
[08:12] <twstxgha> i tried hd0,msdos1
[08:12] <twstxgha> now hd1,msdos2?
[08:12] <Wug> UNIm95: correct me if I'm wrong but arent odd numbered minor versions development ones?
[08:12] <twstxgha> or hd0,msdos2
[08:12] <teks> samgranger: anyway, if that's just text file, anything that has pattern patching will do
[08:13] <Wug> twstxgha: well, you could just try all of them until either you find one that works or none of them work
[08:13] <Wug> and then move on to a different approach
[08:13] <samgranger> teks: sed -i -e 's/CREATE\s=\TABLE/CREATE\s=\TABLE\s=\IF\s=\NOT\s=\EXISTS/' dump.sql
[08:13] <Wug> I'm really tired and need to go to sleep.
[08:13] <samgranger> teks: is something like that correct?
[08:13] <Wug> sorry I can't finish helping
[08:14] <UNIm95> Wug nope. 3.13 -- means that it is 3.13 kernel. 3.13-64 means that this kernel gets update №64
[08:14] <samgranger> replace CREATE TABLE with CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXIStS
[08:14] <UNIm95> Wug:  this №64 is cannonical patch version.
[08:14] <twstxgha> ok hd0msdos1 hd1msdos1
[08:14] <Twirl> Hi, anyone knows a window manager that has rename/delete file feature from the open file dialog or save file dialog?
[08:14] <twstxgha> hd1 disk not found ao
[08:15] <twstxgha> hd0 is disk
[08:15] <Wug> UNIm95: I guess not. I know other software uses that convention
[08:15] <twstxgha> and msdos2 is filetype system right?
[08:15] <samgranger> teks: because I keep getting "sed: RE error: illegal byte sequence"
[08:15] <Wug> twstxgha: it's the partition number
[08:15] <samgranger> after 800mb or so is processed
[08:15] <twstxgha> whata filesystem then
[08:15] <Wug> twstxgha: one filesystem per partition
[08:16] <Wug> so it basically corresponds to a filesystem
[08:16] <OerHeks> Twirl, never seen that option, if you need to rename a file, while saving, open an extra nautilus instance and do so..
[08:16] <Wug> UNIm95: well, pastebin anything you can about it. I can't speculate what might be causing it randomly, except maybe it's bad interaction with some device. a stack trace will probably clarify that
[08:16] <Twirl> OerHeks: man i've been using computers for over 20 years, i know how to rename a file
[08:16] <Twirl> OerHeks: im asking for a feature
[08:17] <OerHeks> Twirl, no such feature.
[08:17] <twstxgha> hd1 msdos1 hd0 msdos1 no work
[08:17] <twstxgha> hd0 msdos2
[08:17] <twstxgha> trying now
[08:17] <teks> samgranger: I've never used sed -i with such big file, and my sed is rusty
[08:17] <twstxgha> nope not work
[08:17] <Twirl> OerHeks: i know, that's why im asking for it, windows has it, so i assume some other window manager probably has it
[08:17] <twstxgha> but now i get error unknown filesystem
[08:17] <twstxgha> when i add msdos2 or 0
[08:17] <magnolia> TJ-: any command to install microcode from terminal ?
[08:18] <hateball> Twirl: KDE 4.x and KDE Plasma both do
[08:18] <twstxgha> for msdos1 no filesystem error
[08:18] <twstxgha> but hd0 complains no disk
[08:18] <Twirl> hateball: cool
[08:18] <twstxgha> wtf is going on
[08:18] <Twirl> hateball: is it too complicated to make the switch?
[08:18] <magnolia> TJ-: any command to install microcode from terminal ? OerHeks
[08:18] <hateball> Twirl: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, pick plasma session when you log in, done ;)
[08:18] <twstxgha> any idea wug?
[08:18] <Twirl> hateball: i only have lightdm and cairo-dock instead of default
[08:19] <Wug> twstxgha: nope, sorry
[08:19] <hateball> Twirl: Are you on 15.04? You'll want to use SDDM then, and the meta-package should offer to configure that for you iirc
[08:19] <Twirl> hateball: yea im in 15.04
[08:19] <Wug> it's too late, im too tired, and not being able to have the device in front of me is too much of a challenge right now
[08:20] <Wug> im gonna tap out and let someone else give it a try
[08:20] <magnolia> any command to install intel cpu microcode firmware from command line ?
[08:20] <Wug> magnolia: there's like a 0% chance of that being a thing
[08:20] <hateball> magnolia: ubuntu-drivers might let you
[08:20] <Wug> if it does exist it's probably proprietary
[08:20] <teks> samgranger: could be corrupt file. specify line ranges to detect where that is. inplace update could also be problematic, so try w/o it with output redirection
[08:21] <UNIm95> Wug:  You are wrong with kernel numbering. See here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/FAQ
[08:21] <twstxgha> eh...
[08:21] <OerHeks> magnolia, sudo apt-get install microcode.ctl intel-microcode
[08:21] <Wug> UNIm95: I figured, since I'm also running 3.13
[08:21] <Twirl> hateball: will i lose cairo-dock?
[08:21] <Wug> and I didn't go for any dev kernels
[08:21] <magnolia> Wug: theres also proprietry driver of broadcom wireless which an be installed from cli
[08:22] <Wug> drivers are to microcode what java is to drivers
[08:22] <UNIm95> Wug this 3.31-64-generic kernel comes as update after simple installation.
[08:22] <magnolia> OerHeks: whats ctl stands for in your command ?
[08:22] <hateball> Twirl: well it wont uninstall it, I just have no idea how it works in plasma as I dont use it
[08:23] <Wug> and proprietary means many things but in this case I mean proprietary as in "if you take it out of the building in which it was developed, you will be sued"
[08:23] <magnolia> control ? OerHeks
[08:23] <OerHeks> magnolia,  it is part of that microcode patch
[08:23] <hateball> Twirl: you wont lose anything but storage space by trying, can always pick your old session on login if it doesnt suit you
[08:24] <Twirl> hateball: okay will give it a try, i really need this feature, its the only thing i miss from windows
[08:24] <OerHeks> magnolia, " sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall " will do all drivers and microcode available
[08:25] <magnolia> OerHeks: hmm ok lemme try
[08:27] <Twirl> hateball: man, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-dekstop is almost 1gb
[08:27] <Twirl> hateball: i dont need anything besides the window manager
[08:28] <trijntje> Twirl: even the window manager won't help, you'll need to tell the gtk apps to use a different file dialog
[08:29] <Twirl> hateball: what about kde-plasma-desktop?
[08:29] <Twirl> trijntje: can't i just do that?
[08:30] <Volund> HELLO all you happy people.
[08:30] <Lyze> o/
[08:30] <Twirl> trijntje: u know how to do it?
[08:36] <magnolia> OerHeks: "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" works but it only install bcmwl-kernel-source iucode-tools intel-microcode while you in previous command also suggested microcode.ctl
[08:37] <magnolia> btw, thnx OerHeks
[08:37] <hateball> Twirl: sure you can install just the DE, but without various apps the experience wont be so great. like using SDDM and having kwallet unlocked by pam and so on
[08:37] <hateball> Twirl: and yeah, like trijntje said. so dont use GTK apps :p
[08:37] <akshay_> Hi guys, can someone check this question for auto-mount raid-array at boot : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2295250&p=13357693#post13357693
[08:38] <trijntje> Twirl: no, thats something the programmers implement, not something the user can change, as far as I know
[08:38] <trijntje> Twirl: do you really need that option that much?
[08:38] <Twirl> hateball: i only use the following apps: chrome, ff, guake, gedit, suiblime text, filezilla, pidgin, inkscape, gimp, libreoffice, mysql workbench, sqlite, deluge, skype and tomahawk
[08:39] <Twirl> hateball: and android development studio
[08:39] <Twirl> trijntje: yep
[08:40] <trijntje> Twirl: in that case I think you have to switch to kde/kubuntu, and also switch all your apps to kde versions
[08:40] <hateball> Twirl: some of those have qt versions, others you'd need to switch to alternatives
[08:40] <Volund> So guys. I'm feeling rather disgusted at Microsoft at the moment and wanting to take more control of my PC life. Figure it's about time to switch to hard mode one of these days and I'm looking at Ubuntu.
[08:40] <Volund> since I am, in fact, wanting to learn Linux and don't thik I ever will until I just dive off a cliff into it.
[08:41]  * Volund does know some things, just isn't any kind of expert.
[08:41] <akshay_> You can always try Linux in a VM
[08:41] <Volund> yeah I have been.
[08:41] <Twirl> trijntje: why do i need to change the application if its using an enviroment call to the file dialog, shouldnt that being the only thing changing?
[08:41] <Volund> Using it as a Dev environment for my #evennia work.
[08:42] <Twirl> hateball: which ones need alternatives?
[08:42] <trijntje> Twirl: those apps are calling the gtk file dialog, and the gtk file dialog doesnt have the options you want. So unless you find a way to enable or add those options to gtk, you'll have to switch
[08:43] <Twirl> hateball: chrome, ff, sublime text, inkscape, gimp, libreoffice, mysql workbench, android studio and deluge are the only ones i care about the file dialog
[08:43] <trijntje> or just not rename files so often ;)
[08:43] <Twirl> trijntje: rename/delete
[08:43] <Twirl> man cant they just add the feature
[08:44] <Twirl> it should be easy as right click -> delete or f2 or click or right click -> rename
[08:44] <trijntje> Twirl: you can ask in #ubuntu-dev, maybe they know if gtk has that option. Or maybe have a look at gsettings manager
[08:45] <Twirl> last time i asked for it here they told me to do it myself, i dont have enough time for that
[08:45] <hateball> Twirl: you could also use the Qt versions of the apps when running under Unity or whatever you run now
[08:45] <trijntje> Twirl: you just said it should be easy ;)
[08:45] <Twirl> besides the guys doing the development should have thought about it?
[08:46] <Lyze> Volund: go ahead c: The best way to learn is to simply google after problems you encounter after installing it c:
[08:46] <ubuntu> hi
[08:46] <Twirl> hateball: i'm not sure about what you are saying, which apps i need to reinstall and how?
[08:46] <Twirl> i thought all these apps only had one version, the one i'm using?
[08:47] <Volund> I'm currently pondering making an image of my current setup then installing Ubuntu... thing is, I was hoping to gather some opinions about how effective Wine is at running things. I'm going to be able to test it with some programs, but I'm not so sure about others. as a gamer, I keep hearing about how Linux is left high and dry and support for everything is shakey? (I'm not hardcore gamer who likes crazy super-real FPSes, but like,
[08:47] <Volund> Can Recettear? etc)...
[08:47] <Volund> anyone have directions to point me in for things that I just cannot reall y test in a VM
[08:47] <Volund> ?
[08:47] <shooter2kill> hi everyone can i please get help with a program i installed conky theme manager then added 2 theme packs the theme packs say they have been added but there not showing up
[08:47] <Lyze> Volund: https://appdb.winehq.org/  ... there you can go and check c:
[08:47] <Volund> --oh, cool
[08:48] <Volund> I'm still hoping to hear about personal experiences though. :)
[08:48] <akshay_> Steam has quite some good games, I don't think that Linux is left out
[08:48] <akshay_> There are some other good games available as well. Sure, nothing like Gta5 or so...
[08:48] <Lyze> Volund: I had games which run perfectly fine and some crashed directly at startup. Also I'd suggest using a wrapper e.g. https://www.playonlinux.com/en/ which provides wine version management and installation setup for games
[08:49] <hateball> Volund: For gaming, #steamlug is a decent place to ask around
[08:49] <shooter2kill> Please can anyone help with above question
[08:50]  * Volund nodnods! Thank you
[08:50] <Lyze> !patience | shooter2kill
[08:51]  * shooter2kill settles back in chair and takes a chill pill 
[08:53] <teks> Volund: most VM don't support 3D well. Wine is pretty much experimental, but you'll learn a lot about internals if you have patience,time, will...
[08:54] <stress> any Indonesian people in here?
[08:54] <jrmiah> anyone in here have particularly good luck with a specific bran of USB WIFI dongle? They all seem to pretty well suck ... might be drivers but running 15.04 + 4.2.x
[08:54] <fritz4fun> any COMPLETE tutorial of setting up a crontab job
[08:55] <stress> any Indonesian people in here?
[08:55] <brothersome> fritz4fun, look at linuxdie
[08:55] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: whats the question?
[08:55] <Lyze> !id | stress
[08:56] <stress> okok, thx you very much, ubottu
[08:57] <fritz4fun> jrmiah, I've watched 5 crontab youtube videos. Know the basics, but noone addresses certain issues like why is the cronjob not been executing if the command itself works fine in the shell
[08:57] <llutz> fritz4fun: most likely wrong environment, check $PATH etc
[08:57] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: so it runs it but then it doesnt work?
[08:57] <sikio> you'll try the ubuntu thing and realize it won't do the things you want and go back to microsoft products
[08:57] <jrmiah> whats the error your getting
[08:58] <teks> I installed 14.04 on laptop, connected second display, now looking for a slider thing to adjust screen brightness, can't find any on panel. any help?
[08:58] <fritz4fun> jrmiah, no error
[08:58] <jrmiah> teks: highly doubt youll find it
[08:58] <Lyze> teks monitor should have one?
[08:58] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: you know the '* * * * *' trick right?
[08:59] <jrmiah> where it'll run the command every minute with that ?
[08:59] <teks> Lyze: yeah it does, but that slider thing was nice, I saw it on Xubuntu
[08:59] <fritz4fun> php installed: checked, file permisssion set,
[08:59] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: what?
[09:00] <jrmiah> oh i see your installing a php app with some mailer thing in it?
[09:00] <jrmiah> (this is why I love php or python or whatever.. they never have their own facilities and make you setup system level crap heh)
[09:00] <fritz4fun> i execute the php script in the shell, works fine.
[09:01] <jrmiah> well theres a few things
[09:01] <fritz4fun> Successfully added it to crontab.
[09:01] <fritz4fun> Not beeing executed.
[09:01] <jrmiah> 1) what user cron runs as versus your shell
[09:01] <jrmiah> 2) what env your script is running within
[09:01] <jrmiah> 3) capturing all the output to a file
[09:02] <Lyze> teks: System Settings → Personal → Brightness and Lock
[09:03] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: try this - sh -c 'your_command' > your_stdout.log 2>&1
[09:03] <fritz4fun> jrmiah: I'm looking for a COMPLETE tutorial. I hate it when you watch 5 videos, you do exactly what they say, they say its easy, but dam* it still doesn work
[09:03] <jrmiah> in your crontab
[09:03] <teks> replay
[09:03] <teks> replay
[09:03] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: oh, I know. Been dealing with that for 20 years in linux :)
[09:03] <magnolia> any way to transfer files faster between ubuntu and android ? ftp is very slow for large files
[09:03] <teks> damn wrong tab
[09:04] <jrmiah> magnolia: ftp should be the fastest available, really
[09:04] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: understand what I meant there above?
[09:04] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16842014/linux-bash-redirect-all-output-to-file
[09:04] <magnolia> jrmiah: ftp is only 4-5MB's over wifi
[09:04] <Lyze> teks: If that doesn't work then you should be able to do it alsow ith "xrandr --output <output> -- brightness <brightness>" But I can't test it since I#m currently at work where I'm running a Windows machine
[09:04] <jrmiah> crontab is pretty easy but it has those 3 considerations when uusing it
[09:05] <jrmiah> magnolia: its the wifi not the protocol
[09:05] <jrmiah> magnolia: sounds like your stuck on 802.11n which is 150MBs
[09:05] <fritz4fun> jrmiah: It's not that I dont put time in. But I freak out when people say things are super-easy and don't refuse to name all the small little details. These details almost anytime make the difference.
[09:05] <jrmiah> err 150Mbps
[09:05] <magnolia> jrmiah: wifi is 150 Mbps so 4-5 MB's is to slow
[09:05] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: did you try the 'sh' style above?
[09:05] <magnolia> yes
[09:05] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: relax and try it
[09:05] <fritz4fun> just a sec please
[09:06] <jrmiah> magnolia: not really
[09:06] <jrmiah> magnolia: its about what i get over 150 here
[09:06] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16842014/linux-bash-redirect-all-output-to-file
[09:06] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: stackoverflow is your friend.
[09:07] <jrmiah> wish we had that back when I was doing linux crap in 1996 heh
[09:07] <magnolia> jrmiah: but using internet over 802.11n is good speed so ftp should also be but in reality its not which signifies something else and not wifi
[09:07] <jrmiah> magnolia: hmmm thats true. DIdnt know what you were contrastig it with.
[09:07] <jrmiah> magnolia: what are you seeing between other machines?
[09:08] <magnolia> jrmiah: I dont know, I usually transfer files between ubuntu and android over wifi, its handy ad its not more than 5 MBps so its too slow for large files
[09:09] <fritz4fun> jrmiah, crontab: installing new crontab
[09:09] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: no idea what that means heh
[09:10] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: so dudde... not tough here ok. The first 5 entries in a line of a crontab entry are the timings.. I forget how its organized but its like month day hour minute second .. I think
[09:11] <fritz4fun> jrmiah: bpaste.net/show/966a7d8d1efc
[09:11] <magnolia> jrmiah: any better ways for transfer
[09:12] <jrmiah> * * * * * sh -c '/usr/bin/php /vagrant/cron.php' >> /vagrant/cron.log  2>&1
[09:12] <jrmiah> try that
[09:13] <teks> Lyze: thanks, but that slider only works for primary display. Windows cannot natively adjust secondary display's brightness either, but Intel driver install a control panel that allows to adjust it
[09:13] <jrmiah> magnolia: why dont you use your cable? :)
[09:13] <magnolia> whose website this bpaste is ? there is no creators name or contact info
[09:13] <Lyze> teks: and the xrandr version? there you can select the output ... or do you specifically need a slider?
[09:14] <magnolia> jrmiah: like I said a cable is lengthy problem on a small table but wifi is always handy anywhere in any situation
[09:14] <teks> Lyze: haven't tried command line.
[09:14] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: if there is an error with running your script via cron then its being lost since you arent using the 2>&1
[09:14] <jrmiah> jrib: sorry Im not following the details of your needs heh
[09:14] <jrmiah> err mag
[09:15] <jrmiah> magnolia: the thing is that yeah like .. its your network connection somehow
[09:15] <jrmiah> I mean you could like I dunno.. use google drive and just do everything async
[09:15] <jrmiah> or dropbox
[09:16] <jrmiah> but that doesnt get you point to point for things like movies any faster, just saves you having to manage it yourself
[09:16] <jrmiah> i say buy the google drice 100GB plan for the $2 a month or whatever and call it a day heh
[09:16] <magnolia> jrmiah: so lets say its my network problem but apart from that how fast ftp can be ? over wifi or cable ?
[09:17] <jrmiah> basically as fast as everything else :)
[09:17] <magnolia> for my ubuntu to android and vise-versa
[09:17] <jrmiah> computers are all about input/output right (I/O)
[09:17] <jrmiah> if you transfer a large file to a linux box right ...
[09:17] <magnolia> correct
[09:18] <jrmiah> its hard to utilize the whole CPU with ftpd but you can actually transfer so much so fast that the fact you have a slow drive limits the transfer speeds
[09:18] <jrmiah> over gigabit ether and a heavily fragmented 5400 rpm drive youc an definitely get a really fast 70MB/sec transfer to the system until it fills up RAM ... and then when it tries to flush to disk itll pause
[09:19] <CrowX-> I have an old laptop with ubuntu 10.04 on it, and to enable wlan0 scanning, I have to manually do "ifconfig wlan0 up"
[09:19] <CrowX-> why?
[09:19] <CrowX-> why isn't it up by default/
[09:20] <jrmiah> magnolia: in fact .. Im talking to you on a server clear across the country and it feels 'good' as far as lag goes via ssh.
[09:20] <jrmiah> magnolia: I have a computer cluster sitting next to an access point 1 foot away and its laggy haha
[09:20] <teks> Lyze: yes command line works. thanks. i'll read man pages to learn more
[09:21] <jrmiah> over wifi. I'm pretty sure in my case there is somethign at the ethernet level screwing things up but its hard to say what.
[09:21] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: did you figure out the error?
[09:21] <Lyze> teks: Awesome great! xrandr is basically the command line version to setup your monitors c:
[09:22] <jrmiah> that kid took off. Funny he's on the Sofia server... was just there a few weeks ago heh
[09:22] <fritz4fun> jrmiah: looks like a permission problem. Do you know vagrant
[09:22] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: a bit
[09:22] <jrmiah> are you in sofia?
[09:23] <magnolia> sounds like its ftp protocol only which has its speed limits jrmiah
[09:23] <jrmiah> magnolia: absolutely not. Its nearly no overhead
[09:23] <magnolia> jrmiah: than, the ftp server is on android and ubuntu client, is that a problem ?
[09:24] <jrmiah> magnolia: to answer your other questions though, you could run a simple web server on your system and use HTTP right
[09:24] <jrmiah> magnolia: why not try it out? easiest way I know of would be to use webmin or something
[09:24] <fritz4fun> jrmiah, I'm not in Sofia. But happy for you that you liked it there.
[09:25] <magnolia> jrmiah: I dont know much about it
[09:25] <magnolia> although I wanna setup a home server for backup. email, etc
[09:26] <jrmiah> to my server over wifi Im getting bout 3-4 MB/sec over HTTP
[09:26] <magnolia> lol, its slow
[09:26] <jrmiah> ts connected via AC I think too heh
[09:27] <magnolia> haha
[09:27] <jrmiah> yeah wifi is slow
[09:27] <jrmiah> its not conclusive at all btw
[09:27] <jrmiah> I can get up to 60MB/sec if Linux isnt involves
[09:27] <magnolia> true but then whats wrong ?
[09:27] <jrmiah> involved
[09:27] <Lyze> Sorry :
[09:27] <jrmiah> personally I think its Linux wifi support
[09:27] <magnolia> microsoft ?
[09:27] <magnolia> maybe
[09:28] <jrmiah> I dont think Ive seen a linux wifi system transfer over 5MB/sec
[09:28] <magnolia> but for that also its broadcom proprietry wifi driver currently installed so it should not be the problem on my side
[09:28] <jrmiah> now, I have used my macbook to transfer at 60MB/sec over a Asus AC access point to my computer cluster ... no linux involved though for wifi.
[09:28] <fritz4fun> jrmiah, cron.log says Could not open input file: /vagrant/cron.php
[09:28] <fritz4fun> Its this a file permission problem
[09:29] <fritz4fun> jrmiah, I'm on a standard vagrant box with Virtualbox
[09:29] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: /last fritz
[09:30] <fritz4fun> jrmiah: ?
[09:30] <jrmiah> heh mstype
[09:30] <jrmiah> was looking for the sh command
[09:31] <magnolia> jrmiah: anyways, after all this interesting chat I see no solution to slow transfer problem
[09:31] <jrmiah> there may not be a solution between the 2
[09:31] <jrmiah> eg, there isnt a trivial solution
[09:31] <jrmiah> if your on your phone and transferring 5MB/sec .
[09:32] <jrmiah> you could test transfering to like .. a different OS
[09:32] <magnolia> jrmiah: I've other issues also, concerning ram, care for them
[09:32] <jrmiah> if i sat here with you we could figure out the weak link in the chain. Fix it? Who knows
[09:32] <magnolia> ?
[09:32] <brothersome> Is the wifi powered with USB?
[09:32] <jrmiah> brollypop: if so are there limits ?
[09:33] <jrmiah> brothersome: meaning you :)
[09:33] <brollypop> :)
[09:33] <brothersome> USB sticks are performing slow if they are not fully powered, I have that with my linux distro
[09:34] <ZuZuD> Hello everybody
[09:34] <brothersome> Ask ZuZuD
[09:35] <ZuZuD> i've got some difficulties with Install of Ubuntu in UEFI with PXE Boot
[09:35] <magnolia> jrmiah: well, good to hear that from you
[09:35] <ZuZuD> First, Should I boot with UEFI PXE ?
[09:35] <magnolia> jrmiah: maybe on my side, its android link to ubuntu which is responsible
[09:35] <jrmiah> magnolia: its always something. heh.
[09:36] <magnolia> furthermore, the ftp server is on android, maybe its not good and powerful enough jrmiah
[09:36] <brothersome> ZuZuD, depends on how big your drive is
[09:36] <jrmiah> magnolia: the thing is you need to write down / clearly explain what is hooked up to what and what you expect
[09:36] <jrmiah> magnolia: are both systems on wifi?
[09:36] <ZuZuD> brothersome: it's huger than 2?2 TB :/
[09:36] <Destros> #XChat_FirstTime Start XChat First Time
[09:36] <jrmiah> magnolia: which systems are what.. ubuntu over wifi to a router + AP and then the phone / android is on that too
[09:36] <magnolia> jrmiah: yes, both connected to single router single AC
[09:37] <jrmiah> ok
[09:37] <jrmiah> try using ethernet from the laptop
[09:37] <jrmiah> see what your speeds are then
[09:37] <jrmiah> if it improves, its because the full duplex transfer over AC are limited (I guess) ..
[09:37] <jrmiah> if its the same its not. etc :)
[09:38] <jrmiah> magnolia: I just tested 5 different USB WIFI dongles on my linux machine.. all with different results and some had the same chipset! heh
[09:38] <magnolia> jrmiah: my internet connection is 20Mbps and I'm getting 19.7Mbps over wifi so wifi link is good
[09:38] <jrmiah> but one thing I noticed was that they all hovered around 5MB/sec
[09:38] <brothersome> ZuZuD, You must use UEFI
[09:38] <jrmiah> magnolia: thats not what I said to do though
[09:38] <magnolia> jrmiah: lol, then whats the difference
[09:39] <jrmiah> magnolia: I said to hardwire the laptop to the router and test it again
[09:39] <EriC^^> brothersome: ZuZuD not necessarily, gpt can use larger than 2tb partitions and works with legacy too
[09:39] <ZuZuD> OK, to install via PXE, i must boot UEFI PXE and not BIOS PXE, right?
[09:39] <magnolia> jrmiah: ok
[09:39] <cfhowlett> !pxe | ZuZuD
[09:39] <EriC^^> brothersome: ZuZuD if you use legacy + gpt you need to make a 1mb bios-boot partition for grub
[09:39] <jrmiah> magnolia: when I just tested webmin for you to test file uploads... guess what happened... an unrelated wifi connection started being gimp. just now.
[09:40] <magnolia> hmm
[09:40] <brothersome> Eric^^, thanks  for the new info for mw
[09:40] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: so I ran '/usr/bin/whoami' just fine with that line
[09:40] <brothersome> me
[09:40] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: and it says root
[09:40] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: which means its not perms if it runs fine outside of crontab
[09:40] <EriC^^> brothersome: :)
[09:41] <ZuZuD> OK EriC^^ so GPT + legacy not  working with /boot on LVM ?
[09:41] <EriC^^> ZuZuD: you already installed in legacy?
[09:41] <ZuZuD> Yes no problem with legacy
[09:41] <ZuZuD> but i should reinstall in UEFI
[09:42] <EriC^^> ZuZuD: as you wish, it can work in legacy if that's an issue for you, uefi boots quicker though and is newer
[09:42] <ZuZuD> And i realised that grub won't install in GPT with legacy
[09:42] <ZuZuD> on a LVM partition
[09:42] <EriC^^> ZuZuD: it will, but you need to have a bios-boot partition for it to install to
[09:43] <ZuZuD> ok so no LVM on /boot :(
[09:43] <magnolia> jrmiah: its marginal increase in speed to 6MB/s
[09:43] <jrmiah> magnolia: ok ..
[09:43] <EriC^^> ZuZuD: do you want it to work on legacy?
[09:43] <EriC^^> or you'd rather use uefi?
[09:44] <ZuZuD> I'm studying on the different possibilities
[09:44] <jrmiah> magnolia: we are expecting like .. what ... 600AC should be eh .. 60MB/sec theoretical but I never see more than 60MB/sec on 1Gbit ..
[09:44] <jrmiah> magnolia: frame overhead yada yada ..
[09:44] <fritz4fun> jrimah: could you explain your last (3) sentences for someone with less IQ please
[09:45] <magnolia> jrmiah: its strange, there should be major increase but its not
[09:45] <ZuZuD> EriC^^: For GPT + legacy it's clear in my mind, i need a new bios-partition and it will work
[09:45] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: heh which ones?
[09:45] <fritz4fun> fritz4fun: so I ran '/usr/bin/whoami' just fine  >>>>with that line<<<
[09:45] <ZuZuD> EriC^^: but for UEFI + GPT, that's not obvious...
[09:45] <fritz4fun> which means its not perms if it runs fine outside of crontab
[09:46] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: I put this in my own crontab -e  -- * * * * * sh -c '/usr/bin/whoami' >> /vagrant/cron.log  2>&1
[09:46] <jrmiah> and now my cron.log says 'root'
[09:46] <jrmiah> so its running your scripts as root.
[09:46] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: Im unsure why root is getting permissions problems if your able to run your same command in a shell ok
[09:47] <ZuZuD> I need to boot with UEFI-PXE, then I need and ESP partition with boot flag, and finally a grub compatible with ESP ?
[09:47] <EriC^^> ZuZuD: for uefi you need to create a fat32 partition with the type ef00, it will mount at /boot/efi and grub will install the .efi file there, and you're pc boots the file
[09:47] <jrmiah> fritz4fun: but the mention of PATH and other env vars being set might be true too
[09:48] <EriC^^> ZuZuD: yeah, the fat32 should have the hex code ef00, ( it's type ), no need for boot flag, and you can install the grub-efi-amd64-signed package if you're using a 64bit machine, it should work with secure boot as well
[09:50] <ZuZuD> Should I use UEFI-PXE ?
[09:50] <ZuZuD> Or Legacy PXE could do the job ?
[09:51] <EriC^^> i don't know about PXE honestly, uefi is sometimes a littel troublesome on bioses that are hardcoded to boot only windows files, there are workarounds that work for the majority of cases, uefi boots quicker as i said and is newer
[09:51] <EriC^^> i guess legacy should work too, it's entirely up to you
[09:52] <ZuZuD> Question is : Is it mandatory to Boot UEFI PXE to install UEFI system ?
[09:52] <EriC^^> ZuZuD: you could convert an install to use uefi, if that's what you mean
[09:53] <ZuZuD> That's not what i mean
[09:54] <EriC^^> i don't know much about pxe, what did you mean and maybe somebody more knowledgeable can help
[09:54] <jrmiah> magnolia: I think your phone is simply on 802.11n then
[09:54] <ZuZuD> EriC^^: thanks a lot, my last question : You know maybe about Preseed using UEFI ?
[09:55] <jrmiah> jrmiah: which has a theoretical of 15MB/sec ... but probably wont get it
[09:55] <EriC^^> ZuZuD: nope
[09:55] <magnolia> jrmiah: yes
[09:55] <ZuZuD> Thank you EriC^^ ;)
[09:56] <EriC^^> ZuZuD: np
[09:59] <shooter2kill> hey all i have installed a program called conky manager its not working right i would like to COMPLETELY uninstall it how would i do that
[09:59] <EriC^^> shooter2kill: how did you install it?
[10:00] <zetheroo> at what point in boot/login is rc.local executed?
[10:00] <ZuZuD> shooter2kill: apt-get remove --purge conky-manager
[10:02] <DrGrov> Hi. Running 14.04 and trying to upgrade kernel but afraid of breaking nVidia drivers 340.76 which are perfect at the moment. Any similar problems to kernel upgrades than before the 340.76 drivers?
[10:03] <cfhowlett> DrGrov, I do sudo apt full-upgrade daily and nvidia-prime flies straight and true
[10:04] <DrGrov> cfhowlett: So, there is no risk as before the 340.76 drivers to break the kernel?
[10:04] <cfhowlett> DrGrov, did not state "no risk" merely that kernel upgrades have not broken nvidia functionality
[10:05] <EriC^^> DrGrov: you could always just boot the older kernel if i'm not mistaken
[10:05] <cfhowlett> true ^^
[10:05] <DrGrov> cfhowlett: Okay, I just remembered the bug that was quite a troublesome thing for many users with the 330.xx drivers.
[10:05] <DrGrov> Sorry, the 331.xx drivers that is.
[10:06] <cfhowlett> DrGrov, you could partially simulate the upgrade via apt-get -s dist-upgrade
[10:06] <DrGrov> cfhowlett: Okay, that I will do to test.
[10:07] <DrGrov> cfhowlett: That did not cause any issues, so I will just install them. Thank you :)
[10:07] <zetheroo> how do I get something to start on boot only after the network is up ?
[10:11] <DrGrov> cfhowlett: Thank you for your kind help. Much appreciated :)
[10:11] <cfhowlett> happy2help! DrGrov
[10:11] <DrGrov> EriC^^: And thank you also for the kind help :)
[10:11] <sachin_a> What is the reason behind disappearing of names of folders and menus?  They are partially visible
[10:14] <ktechmidas> jumi: One of our engineers was trying to figure out why their script wasn't working... turns out they ran a command on the hour every hour that would bail if the previous one was still running. Rather than using a find or something sensible to clean old files, they just did a $(date --date='7 days ago') and assumed it was the correct file
[10:14] <ktechmidas> obviously missed a shitload of them and filled the disk -.-
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> sachin_a: can you tinypic whats happening exactly
[10:16] <ktechmidas> sorry wrong chat :|
[10:16] <sachin_a> when I open nautilus names of folder are visble partially
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> sachin_a: can you make a screenshot of that and share with us?
[10:18] <sachin_a> well.. problem got solved after reboot. I just wanted to know the reason behind it
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> sachin_a: sounds like a graphics driver bug glitch
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> sachin_a: wich card + driver please?
[10:19] <sachin_a> Intel® Ironlake Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> sachin_a: sudo lshw -C video and check whats behind driver= please
[10:20] <sachin_a> ok
[10:21] <zetheroo> is it possible that the network connection only occurs on user login and not before?
[10:21] <sachin_a> product: Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller     vendor: Intel Corporation
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> sachin_a: driver= ?
[10:22] <hateball> zetheroo: you could make a script that tests if it can ping say... your default gateway, if not loop until it can, then execute what you want
[10:22] <hateball> zetheroo: Is it a wifi connection?
[10:22] <sachin_a> driver=i915 latency=0
[10:23] <zetheroo> hateball: but it seems like the network only connects after login
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> sachin_a: ok looks good
[10:23] <zetheroo> hateball: no - ethernet
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> sachin_a: maybe check your syslog or dmesg for any errors
[10:23] <hateball> zetheroo: That is strange, it should not do that by default
[10:24] <zetheroo> hateball: working with PBIS domain service here ... and once logged into a local user I can restart the PBIS service and voila I can login as a domain user
[10:24] <zetheroo> hateball: but after a reboot domain users no longer work
[10:24] <sachin_a> ok thanks budy
[10:25] <zetheroo> hateball: I found in syslog something about authentication of the domain failure ... and then a few lines down the completion of the eth0 connection ..
[10:25] <zetheroo> hateball: so that got me thinking it's an issue with the PBIS service trying to resolve the domain before any network connection is established
[10:26] <zetheroo> hateball: I tried removing the service from running in rc*.d and placed it in rc.local but that didn't solve it
[10:26] <magnolia> jrmiah: /msg you there ?
[10:26] <magnolia> lol
[10:27] <zetheroo> hateball: then I tried placing the script in the if-up.d folder and that too didn't solve the issue
[10:28] <Jakey2> whats the best way of transferring information between virtual machines?
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> Jakey2: what kinf of information?
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> kind
[10:29] <Jakey2> files
[10:29] <zetheroo> hateball: I am going to start again with a fresh install ... I have done quite a bit of testing with this test-run :P
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> Jakey2: ssh perhaps?
[10:30] <Jakey2> ye
[10:34] <hateball> zetheroo: at which point did the script run? 99-whatever.sh ?
[10:35] <zetheroo>  hateball: not sure - I am installing Ubuntu 14.04.3 fresh to test this issue specifically.
[10:36] <zetheroo>  hateball: I know it was in every rc*.d but I am not sure at what stage of boot it was executed
[10:36] <hateball> zetheroo: well if you tried rc.local and that failed as well I dunno, it runs at 99
[10:37] <hateball> but upstart/init aint so great at making sure things run in a certain order
[10:37] <zetheroo>  hateball: so network is supposed to connect before user login ... is that correct?
[10:37] <aeroraver> could someone help me with a keyboard issue i have?
[10:37] <aeroraver> my keyboard layout is buggy, i can only select text with shift-HOME/END if i enable numlock
[10:38] <bet0x> Can i use LightDM or GDM with CAS or SSO?
[10:39] <J__O__S__H__U__A>  no your honor, I only hacked the Popes Email Address last year for Ethical Obs
[10:41] <hateball> zetheroo: yea
[10:42] <zetheroo>  hateball: ok, I thought Network Manager only initiates on user login
[10:42] <hateball> zetheroo: nah, just the gui bit, it's still a background service
[10:42] <zetheroo> ok
[10:43] <hateball> zetheroo: but I am not sure what happens in the running order if you have an old sysvinit script. maybe it needs to be converted to upstart so you can make it depend on some other service being alive
[10:45] <k1l> zetheroo: NM starts on the login screen lightdm, due to let remote login happen
[10:45] <zetheroo>  k1l: ok - and that happens by default with a fresh install too?
[10:47] <k1l> zetheroo: that is standard since 14.04, iirc. but that depends on what setup you install exactly.
[10:47] <zetheroo>  k1l: what do you mean by "what setup you install exactly"?
[10:47] <k1l> and the connection must be set to be available for all users in the NM settings
[10:48] <zetheroo> ok
[10:48] <k1l> zetheroo: a miniml install with dwm and wicd is most likely not to work that way
[10:48] <jarnos> Is this the same for Ubuntu? : "The Linux swap code will issue TRIM commands to TRIM-enabled devices, and there is no option to control this behaviour."  https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/14/html/Storage_Administration_Guide/newmds-ssdtuning.html
[10:49] <zetheroo> I have just installed Ubuntu 14.04.3 (64bit Desktop) and did update and dist-upgrade
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> !trim | jarnos
[10:49] <zetheroo> Now I installed the PBIS package from http://download.beyondtrust.com/PBISO/8.3/pbis-open-8.3.0.3287.linux.x86_64.deb.sh
[10:49] <k1l> zetheroo: then network should be available in the lightdm if its setup properly and given access systemwide.
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> jarnos: can you explain what your trying to do?
[10:50] <zetheroo> k1l: I have not touched the network setting on the system - but I checked if it's available to all users and it is - so that on by default it seems
[10:50] <jarnos> lotuspsychje, I want to know, if my (encrypted) swap is performing optimally on my SSD drive.
[10:50] <k1l> jarnos: swap got a lot of write triggers, so if you worry about the ssd you might not want to use swap.
[10:51] <zetheroo> k1l: DHCP network connection - all automatic - going to join to domain now ..
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> ssd performance relies on many other factors, you can tweak it, firmware update,..
[10:52] <zetheroo> joined to domain successfully and now rebooting ...
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> jarnos: wich ssd you have?
[10:53] <jarnos> lotuspsychje, Kingston SSDNow V300 60GB, half of the drive is unpartitioned.
[10:53] <k1l> jarnos: discard should work in crypttab and fstab for the encrypted swap
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> jarnos: you can check firmware updates for your device on the official site, also tweaks like k1l says
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> jarnos: here some ssd tips: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[10:55] <niser> #Niclas
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> jarnos: there is also opinions about leaving half of ssd unpartitioned would be faster nor not, check ##hardware if its myth or not
[10:56] <zetheroo> set domain login template variables ... edit sudoers ... edit 50-unity-greeter.conf ... and reboot
[10:56] <zetheroo> login screen shows only username of local user and I cannot login manually
[10:57] <jarnos> lotuspsychje, I have checked the firmware updates, but not applied them, yet: The update process requires that the SSD is run in AHCI mode, which my hardware does not suport, and the process may require Windows OS; there is a bootable media for Apple Mac, but I am not sure, if it can be run for other machines, nor the manufacturer guarantees it can.
[10:58] <zetheroo> reboot once more than can now login manually - but domain user not logging in
[11:01] <hateball> jarnos: usually those "bootable for mac" loads a freedos or linux shell and applies the firmware
[11:01] <flashingpumpkin> hi there. I've just done an update on 15.04 and now my external screen can't stop flickering. sometimes even just turns black / off for a couple of seconds. any ideas what this could be? (laptop: xps 13, screen: asus, some weird model number)
[11:01] <hateball> flashingpumpkin: what GPU and driver are you using?
[11:02] <flashingpumpkin> hateball, nothing special. whatever ubuntu gave me when installing. no proprietary / additional drivers
[11:02] <zetheroo> I can stop the lwsmd service and start it again, and then logout of the local user and login as domain user with no issue
[11:02] <flashingpumpkin> hateball, https://gist.github.com/flashingpumpkin/9f2a8f53521f001874ab
[11:03] <zetheroo> so something is definitely up with the lwsmd service not running at the right time during boot ... I am guessing before there is any network connection established
[11:04] <jarnos> hateball, this one loads some gui linux. But can you be sure the firmware upgrade works with non-apple hardware?
[11:05] <jarnos> hateball, I mean I don
[11:08] <zetheroo> k1l: is NM initiated once the login screen is loaded and with it the network connection established?
[11:08] <jarnos> hateball, 't know, if other than Apple Mac hardware is somehow different that it affects the ability of the bootable system to upgrade the firmware. I have tested that I can boot the .iso anyway.
[11:08] <zetheroo> k1l: or is the network connection established already before NM is running?
[11:09] <k1l> zetheroo: iirc the lightdm initiiates the NM.
[11:10] <zetheroo> k1l: ok, and with NM the network connection is established? - or is the connection already there before NM is initiated?
[11:10] <k1l> there cant be a networkconnection when the NM is set  to use it and its not started yet.
[11:11] <k1l> zetheroo: you can try if the network/interfaces approach and if that is running prior to the NM
[11:12] <k1l> zetheroo: the regular run is: lightdm -> NM -> network connection. so there cant be a connection before lightdm is done starting
[11:12] <jarnos> hateball, "Please note that we cannot guarantee that it will work on a Non-Mac system, even though there are Linux components in the updater ", said Kingston support.
[11:12] <zetheroo> k1l: would adding something like "auto eth0" in the interfaces file do the trick?
[11:13] <zetheroo> k1l: or maybe the auto-hotplug option ... ?
[11:13] <hateball> jarnos: Well that's up to you. Of course "they" cant guarantee since they dont officially support it
[11:13] <hateball> jarnos: I'd be surprised if it somehow would break tho
[11:13] <zetheroo> k1l: I mean allow-hotplug ..
[11:19] <zetheroo> ok, that was successful :)
[11:20] <zetheroo> worked after first reboot ... second reboot fails :P
[11:21] <zetheroo> I added "auto eth0" in the interfaces file
[11:28] <zetheroo> is 14.04.3 using upstart or systemd?
[11:30] <k1l> upstart
[11:30] <k1l> systemd is standard since 15.04
[11:32] <zetheroo> ok
[11:34] <zetheroo> but it seems like systemd is used in 14.04.3 ... at least for some things!?
[11:34] <zetheroo> I see here /lib/systemd/systems with number of *.service files
[11:36] <k1l> zetheroo: no. the thing is that a lot of programs/processes were merged into systemd. so until 15.04 the maintainer needed to make that systemd parts work with upstart since there are no non-systemd stuff left that works.
[11:36] <sad> hi
[11:37] <zetheroo> k1l: oh
[11:37] <k1l> zetheroo: in the end that burden got so big that ubuntu switched to systemd completly.
[11:37] <zetheroo> so then I guess this is not going to help me .. http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1277071
[11:37] <zetheroo> :P
[11:37] <sad> i have a problem with installation of owncloud
[11:37] <sad> please help
[11:37] <zetheroo> sad: what's the problem?
[11:38] <sad> i dont know wat should i type on https....
[11:38] <sad> in begin
[11:38] <zetheroo> sad: so you have installed the openvpn client ok?
[11:39] <sad> no
[11:39] <zetheroo> sad: you said you had a problem with the installation ...
[11:39] <sad> owncloud
[11:39] <sad> after download i can not install it
[11:40] <zetheroo> sudo apt-get install owncloud-client
[11:40] <MonkeyDust_> !find owncloud
[11:40] <zetheroo> sad: it's in the Ubuntu repos ;)
[11:40] <sad> i dit but how can i stat to use ?
[11:40] <k1l> the one in the official ubuntu repo is too old
[11:41] <k1l> sad: see http://software.opensuse.org/download/package?project=isv:ownCloud:community&package=owncloud
[11:41] <zetheroo> sad: look for it in the dash
[11:41] <sad> thanks!
[11:41] <aeroraver> anyone know how to fix keyboard layout problems?
[11:41] <k1l> sad: you are talking about the server service of owncloud?
[11:41] <sad> server
[11:42] <MonkeyDust_> sad  type /j #owncloud and ask there for assistance
[11:42] <zetheroo> sad: ^
[11:42] <k1l> sad: ok, then see the link i gave you
[11:42] <sad> i ll do it
[11:42] <sad> ok
[11:42] <webera> sad, and think about using a linuxcontainer for that
[11:42] <webera> lxc
[11:43] <MonkeyDust_> i'm in a lxcontainer, as we speak
[11:44] <sad> i got it , thanks guys!
[11:44] <pragomer1> hi. since one day I cannot connect to my synology-nas via nfs. get this error: mount.nfs: requested NFS version or transport protocol is not supported    Any ideas?
[11:45] <zetheroo> when during boot is rc.local executed?
[11:45] <kyr0> pragomer1: You doing the mount via fstab?
[11:46] <pragomer1> via fstab... but now for debugging also manual in terminal:    mount -t nfs 192.168.0.101:/volume1/share /mnt
[11:47] <kyr0> pragomer1: Just to be sure, Did you change anything in the synology settings regarding nfs?
[11:47] <pragomer1> normally this is my fstab: http://pastebin.com/LNktLhzb
[11:47] <pragomer1> no, no changes regarding nfs
[11:48] <kyr0> pragomer1: Try: sudo showmount -e <synology ip>
[11:49] <pragomer1> showmount:    rpc mount export: RPC: Unable to receive; errno = Connection refused
[11:49] <Mion> zetheroo: you should not use rc.local
[11:49] <zetheroo> ok, I may have found the solution ... 2 reboots and able to login as domain user immediately
[11:49] <zetheroo> Mion: why?
[11:49] <kyr0> pragomer1: Did you run the command as root?
[11:50] <Mion> zetheroo: because it will just cause you grief
[11:50] <pragomer1> yes, as root
[11:50] <Mion> zetheroo: what are you *actually* trying to do?
[11:50] <zetheroo> Mion: I have been explaining what I am doing for a while now :)
[11:50] <Mion> zetheroo: not really
[11:51] <pragomer1> mm.. what I did.. I installed nfs-utils with ipkg...
[11:51] <pragomer1> but did not do any manual changes to any file.. just installed this package.
[11:51] <kyr0> pragomer1: It looks like the rpc service might not be running on your system
[11:52] <pragomer1> on the nas or on my system?
[11:52] <zetheroo> Mion: bascially getting PBIS to join system to domain - works  - but after reboot PBIS daemon doesn't connect with domain because it seems the network connection is not up when it tries to connect.
[11:52] <kyr0> pragomer1: also called the portmap service sometimes. On your system.
[11:53] <Mion> zetheroo: so write a init script that runs if after your network service, or hook into whatever you use to setup up your network
[11:53] <kyr0> pragomer1: are you running 15.04?
[11:53] <Mion> zetheroo: you can even add in a loop in your script to check that you can contact the remote before you start the service
[11:54] <zetheroo> Mion: adding /etc/init.d/lwsmd restart into rc.local works like a charm :)
[11:54] <pragomer1> 14.04
[11:54] <ioria> !info nfs-common
[11:54] <Mion> zetheroo: not reliably
[11:54] <Mion> and that is horrible
[11:55] <zetheroo> Mion: why isn't it reliable?
[11:55] <Mion> zetheroo: doesn't actually take care of the race condition
[11:55] <zetheroo> Mion: sorry that's all a but over my head
[11:55] <Mion> zetheroo: just doing "sleep 5" in your script would achieve the same
[11:55] <Mion> (and actually be saner than restarting it in rc.local)
[11:56] <kyr0> pragomer1: try: sudo service portmap start
[11:57] <pragomer1> portmap: unrecognized service
[11:57] <zetheroo> Mion: if rc.local is so unreliable why is it there?
[11:57] <kyr0> pragomer1: difficult to guess what the service name is... sorry.
[11:57] <pragomer1> n.p... wait a few minutes.. going to check some things.. will be back
[11:57] <Mion> zetheroo: because 1972
[11:58] <Mion> zetheroo: and "back when I was young...."
[11:58] <Mion> zetheroo: sidenote, even in the "good old days" is was highly discouraged to use rc.local
[11:59] <zetheroo> Mion: ok, but why is it discouraged?
[11:59] <Mion> zetheroo: but then the internet was invented and people who didn't know better posted "guides"
[11:59] <Mion> so the usage spread
[11:59] <zetheroo> Mion: it's seems like a simple solution ...
[11:59] <ioria> pragomer1 i think now portmap is rpcbind...
[12:00] <Mion> zetheroo: it is monolitich, it doesn't do any form of dependency handeling, you can't really know when it is run, it is not really portable at all
[12:00] <vooze> Hi, i'm currently at school, and they tell us we need to use Visual Studio desktop tomorrow. Can someone tell me is there is a huge difference in that and visual studio code (cross platform) ? :)
[12:00] <zetheroo> Mion: and what the official way to make a script execute only once the network connection is established?
[12:00] <vooze> oops, wrong channel :D
[12:00] <Mion> zetheroo: say you put something in there that makes your system hang at boot
[12:01] <Mion> zetheroo: if you actually used a propper init script then you could just say init.disable=whatever or similar
[12:01] <Mion> zetheroo: but you can't do that for the command you just trew in rc.local
[12:01] <Mion> zetheroo: also you can't take advantage of runlevels
[12:01] <zetheroo> Mion: not sure what is a "proper init script"
[12:01] <kyr0> pragomer1: Please look into ioria's comment. your problem is that the rpc service is not running on your local machine. Google has a lot of answers as well for this particular issue.
[12:02] <Mion> zetheroo: writing a init script in init.d
[12:02] <Mion> zetheroo: or a systemd .service
[12:02] <zetheroo> Mion: so are you saying that the script is faulty?
[12:02] <Mion> I'm saying that the concept of rc.local is faulty
[12:02] <zetheroo> Mion: I was told 14.04 doesn't use systemd :P
[12:02] <Mion> zetheroo: sadly
[12:03] <llutz> zetheroo: use an upstart script in /etc/init then
[12:03] <zetheroo> Mion: ok, but I am looking for a solution to this ... and if that means either putting that string in rc.local or re-writing the init script ... well I don't know how to write init scripts
[12:03] <Mion> zetheroo: also if you just trow random commands in rc.local, then you are not handeling shutdown at all
[12:04] <Mion> zetheroo: and they will just be sigterm/killed
[12:04] <zetheroo> Mion: there is already the default init script in /etc/init.d/
[12:04] <Mion> with no cleanup done etc
[12:04] <Mion> zetheroo: which you can edit to your hart content, or override
[12:05] <zetheroo> Mion: right - but again, I don't know how to
[12:05] <MonkeyDust_> Mion  what was your initial question?
[12:06] <zetheroo> llutz: upstart script? is that the same as init script?
[12:06] <llutz> zetheroo: yes, for upstart, used in 14.04 as init-system
[12:06] <Mion> MonkeyDust_: what zetheroos actual problem was
[12:06] <Mion> MonkeyDust_: since there was a lot of xyproblem going on
[12:06] <zetheroo> llutz: ok, well there has always been a script in there from PBIS
[12:06] <MonkeyDust_> Mion  yes, apparentally, i addressed the wrong person
[12:07] <llutz> zetheroo: upstart uses /etc/init, not /etc/init.d. it just has  handler for old sysv-init scripts in /etc/init.d
[12:08] <llutz> zetheroo: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[12:09] <zetheroo> this is the script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12437650/
[12:10] <zetheroo> and thats the default script in the default location
[12:12] <zetheroo> so I cannot copy this script into the init directory? :D
[12:13] <pragomer1> I think the problem is with synology.. I just tried the same on my debian-pc.. same thing.. impossible that there is the issue on both pcs
[12:15] <ioria> pragomer1,   nfs-common is installed ?
[12:15] <pragomer1> yes it is installed on ubuntu and debian
[12:16] <ioria> pragomer1,   do you have a Control Panel on synology ?
[12:16] <pragomer1> yes, of course
[12:16] <pragomer1> there are not much settings.. you can en/disable nfs in general.. then set nfs-permissions for a shared folder..
[12:17] <pragomer1> but these are correct
[12:17] <ioria> pragomer1,  click on shared Folders and the Privileges
[12:17] <ioria> *then
[12:17] <pragomer1> yes
[12:18] <ioria> pragomer1,  then NFS Privileges”.
[12:19] <ioria> pragomer1,  "Create" , insert ip of you ubuntu machine ....
[12:19] <ioria> *r
[12:20] <pragomer1> my ip is in there :-(
[12:20] <di48l069> wondering if someone can help with this usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lboost_thread-mt
[12:20] <ioria> pragomer1,  and you can't acces your NAS ?
[12:21] <pragomer1> I can access it via ssh, via browser.. but cannot mount nfs
[12:21] <ioria> pragomer1,  did you tick read/write ?
[12:21] <ioria> pragomer1, and Map to admin ?
[12:22] <pragomer1> wait a second.. just rebooting the nas..
[12:22] <webera> good idea ;)
[12:23] <webera> No change -> Problem = Reboot
[12:24] <pragomer1> ok I see.. after a reboot my ip in nfs-permissions is deleted automatically
[12:24] <ioria> pragomer1, are you using a router or a direct cable .... are you using automtic or static ip ?
[12:25] <ioria> pragomer1, think static ip  is better....
[12:25] <pragomer1> all static ip... router... as I said I installed nfs-utils via ipkg on the synology..  because I wanted to nfs-mount another nas on the synology.. this works.. but I think its the problem
[12:26] <ioria> pragomer1, don't think you have to install nothing on the nas ... you install nfs-common on your ubuntu ... m ' i right ?
[12:27] <Guest40816> Hi guys, I'm a new Ubuntu user. My former OS was a Mac OS X. I'm looking now for a good alternative for iTunes. I prefer to choose a specific location where the music library is maintained.
[12:27] <pragomer1> no... I wanted to mount a Qnap-NAS on the Synology-NAS.. without using a PC
[12:28] <ioria> pragomer1, you're getting complicated .... ^_^
[12:28] <pragomer1> :-) Sorry...
[12:28] <bazhang> !players | Guest40816
[12:28] <pragomer1> the nfs-mount on synology works.. that for I installed the ipkg package nfs-utils...
[12:28] <MonkeyDust_> Guest40816  is this useful http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/itunes
[12:28] <bazhang> how does fit into that pragomer1
[12:29] <bazhang> plus ubuntu
[12:29] <pragomer1> but this caused (I think so) that I cannot moutn the synology on my pc anymore
[12:29] <ioria> pragomer1, type mount and see if the nas fs shows up
[12:30] <pragomer1> you mean mount on my pc?
[12:30] <ioria> pragomer1, yup
[12:30] <pragomer1> no.. there is no entry with my nas
[12:30] <houst0n> Hi guys, does anyone know how mini.iso is generated?
[12:31] <ioria> pragomer1, you can try    sudo mount -a    ... but not sure of the outcome
[12:32] <pragomer1> mount -a gives of course the same error: mount.nfs: requested NFS version or transport protocol is not supported
[12:35] <llutz> pragomer1: mount manually, use "mount -v -t nfs ....." to get more verbose output
[12:35] <ioria> pragomer1, maybe you have some port conflicts....
[12:35] <pragomer1> manually it's the same error message
[12:36] <llutz> pragomer1: used the -v ?
[12:36] <pragomer1> mounting does not work from any of my (5!)  computers.. yesterday it did
[12:36] <pragomer1> thats why I think nfs is broken on the synology
[12:36] <kyr0> pragomer1: And the only thing you installed is that nfs package?
[12:36] <pragomer1> yes
[12:37] <pragomer1> nfs-utils and nfs-server...
[12:37] <kyr0> pragomer1: Sounds like that package caused the builtin nfs on the synology to go beserk
[12:37] <pragomer1> I uninstalled both meanwhile
[12:37] <pragomer1> yes thats what I think too now
[12:38] <kyr0> pragomer1: You get free support with synology when you purchase the device, perhaps its a smart thing to create a ticket with them and ask if they can instruct you how to restore the original nfs
[12:38] <kyr0> the one that came with the synology firmware
[12:41] <ioria> !info nfs-kernel-server
[12:45] <pragomer1> even if I installed ipkg?
[12:46] <llutz> pragomer1: backup your settings, reset the synology to factory defaults and start again. ask for support at synology-forums
[12:46] <ioria> pragomer1,  which command are you using to mount ?
[12:47] <kyr0> pragomer1: sinds its a problem with the synology, those guys are way better at assessing the situation
[12:47] <pragomer1> mount -t nfs ip:/share /mnt
[12:47] <pragomer1> yes I think so.. talking to synology people :-(
[12:47] <pragomer1> but thank you very much for your help
[12:47] <lapinozz> hello, i want to maximize a window when the window key is pressed, is it possible?
[12:47] <ioria> try sudo mount -t nfs4
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:52] <lee_> hi
[12:52] <lee_> any one can help me
[12:53] <k1l> !details | lee_
[12:54] <lee_> #版本限制
[12:54] <lee_> CMAKE_MINIMUM_REQUIRED(VERSION 2.8)
[12:54] <lee_> #工程名称
[12:54] <lee_> PROJECT(test_datetime)
[12:54] <lee_> #Debug
[12:54] <lee_> SET(CMAKE_BUILE_TYPE DEBUG)                      #指定编译类型
[12:55] <lukastheblack> Pragomer1: worth a shot, I had nsf issues recently because the "rpcbind" service was not running
[12:56] <vooze> Have anyone found a numix-blue theme for ubuntu 15.04? Just like the original, I just dont like red :/
[12:56] <lee_> 	MESSAGE("Boost_LIBRARY_DIRS: ${Boost_LIBRARY_DIRS}")
[12:56] <lee_> 	MESSAGE("Boost Libraries: ${Boost_LIBRARIES}")
[12:56] <lee_> 	INCLUDE_DIRECTORIES(${Boost_INCLUDE_DIRS})
[12:56] <lee_> 	LINK_DIRECTORIES(${Boost_LIBRARY_DIRS})
[12:56] <lee_> endif()
[12:56] <lee_> #程序依赖库设置
[12:56] <pragomer1> lukastheblack: rpcbind on nas or client?
[12:56] <lukastheblack> Nas
[12:56] <lukastheblack> Or server
[12:56] <lukastheblack> Mine was a server environment
[12:57] <lee_> Boost information
[12:57] <boodllebat> i want to update my Java
[12:57] <lee_> Boost_INCLUDE_DIRS: /usr/local/include
[12:57] <lee_> Boost_LIBRARY_DIRS: /usr/local/lib
[12:57] <lee_> Boost Libraries: /usr/local/lib/libboost_system.a;/usr/local/lib/libboost_date_time.a;/usr/local/lib/libboost_filesystem.a;/usr/local/lib/libboost_chrono.a;/usr/local/lib/libboost_program_options.a;/usr/local/lib/libboost_log.a;/usr/local/lib/libboost_log_setup.a
[12:57] <lee_> CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:62 (TARGET_LINK_LIBRARIES):
[12:57] <lee_>   Cannot specify link libraries for target "/usr/local/lib/libboost_system.a"
[12:58] <ioria> pragomer1,   try sudo   /etc/init.d/rpcbind  status on your ubuntu
[12:58] <k1l> !paste | Lee1`
[12:59] <k1l> erm, sorry Lee1` tabfail form me :/
[12:59] <pragomer1> "rpcbind is running"
[12:59] <ioria> pragomer1,   restart it and mount
[13:00] <magnolia> had several kernel panics, someone here suggested memtest. ran memtest and results - 1st 2gb ram --> http://pasteboard.co/HUNgQAR.jpg it gave error 2 times and then afterwards tried 5-6 times but it says passed, ran ubuntu with it and it got freezed after some time with a little load on firefox, 2nd 4gb ram --> http://pasteboard.co/HV1hZeT.jpg its contantly giving the same error but it is currently inside my this very own laptop a
[13:02] <pragomer1> same problem after restart of rpcbind
[13:02] <llutz> pragomer1: use "sudo mount -v -t nfs ....." to get more verbose output
[13:03] <pragomer1> verbose output: http://pastebin.com/7V9yT6af
[13:04] <llutz> pragomer1: do you have ssh/telnet access to the nas? check portmap running there.
[13:04] <magnolia> had several kernel panics, someone here suggested memtest. ran memtest and results - 1st 2gb ram --> http://pasteboard.co/HUNgQAR.jpg it gave error 2 times and then afterwards tried 5-6 times but it says passed, ran ubuntu with it and it got freezed after some time with a little load on firefox, 2nd 4gb ram --> http://pasteboard.co/HV1hZeT.jpg its contantly giving the same error but it is currently inside my this very own laptop a
[13:05] <ioria> pragomer1,   yep, usually rpcbind should run on both sides
[13:06] <llutz> pragomer1:and as i said before: backup your settings, reset the synology to factory defaults and start again. ask for support at synology, forums, wherever. it's not a *buntu problem
[13:07] <zetheroo> is there a way to convert a init.d script to upstart script? - or does it have to be re-written ?
[13:09] <pragomer1> ok.. thanks
[13:10] <zetheroo> but wait a sec, Ubuntu 16.04 will be using systemd ... correct?
[13:11] <k1l> zetheroo: yes.
[13:11] <k1l> but its not available yet
[13:12] <zetheroo> ok, so I should not be bothering with getting this working on 14.04 ;P
[13:12] <zetheroo> is 15.04 using systemd ?
[13:12] <k1l> i already told you today that since 15.04 ubuntu is using systemd.
[13:12] <zetheroo> I think someone said earlier it was ...
[13:12] <zetheroo> yes, sorry ...
[13:12] <k1l> but 15.04 is not a lts. 14.04 and 16.04 are
[13:12] <zetheroo> right
[13:13] <zetheroo> but shouldn't I be getting stuff to work in systemd rather than in something that is already fazed out!?
[13:14] <k1l> if you go for 15.04 you need to upgrade every 6 months until 16.04 is released. (15.04 -> 15.10 -> 16.04). 14.04 is LTS and got 5 years support so you can upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 on the lts path then.
[13:15] <k1l> so that is what you should consider, not where you can safe 5 minutes now.
[13:15] <zetheroo> it's only for testing - not to roll out. The idea for me it to see how this PBIS solution will work on 16.04, and it seems the only way to test that is to use 15.04
[13:16] <k1l> 16.04 development is not even started yet.
[13:16] <zetheroo> or is there potentially so much changing between 15.04 and 16.04 that it would be a waste to assume that because it works in 15.04 that it would work in 16.04 ...?
[13:16] <cfhowlett> exactly!
[13:16] <zetheroo> hmm ...
[13:17] <zetheroo> just feels like a waste of time getting this working on upstart which is already out of use in 16.04 ...
[13:17] <zetheroo> or?
[13:19] <zetheroo> well what it comes down to is that I don't know how to convert/re-write this script from an init.d script into an upstart init script ... so rc.local will just have to do for now :P
[13:19] <MonkeyDust_> zetheroo  just read: even 15.10 will be the last "boring" release, 16.04 will be more exciting and worth while
[13:19] <zetheroo> :)
[13:28] <DJJeff> my game is crashing due to sound issues I ran gdb and did a backtrace
[13:28] <DJJeff> https://bpaste.net/show/c36e1b016578
 had several kernel panics, someone here suggested memtest. ran memtest and results - 1st 2gb ram --> http://pasteboard.co/HUNgQAR.jpg it gave error 2 times and then afterwards tried 5-6 times but it says passed, ran ubuntu with it and it got freezed after some time with a little load on firefox, 2nd 4gb ram --> http://pasteboard.co/HV1hZeT.jpg its contantly giving the same error but it is currently inside my this very o
[13:37] <magnolia> suggest something
[13:38] <temp> hi
[13:38] <EriC^^> hello
[13:38] <temp> where you are
[13:38] <temp> 我是中国人
[13:39] <ratrace> magnolia: seems like your RAM is broken, hardware.
[13:39] <magnolia> ratrace: which one ?
[13:39] <ratrace> magnolia: no idea
[13:40] <ratrace> magnolia: could be you just need to re-seat the sticks
[13:40] <cfhowlett> !cn | temp,
[13:40] <magnolia> ratrace: I've uploaded screenshots...
[13:40] <temp> thanks
[13:40] <magnolia> ratrace: re-seatted them several times
[13:40] <ratrace> magnolia: well do you see on any of those screenshots which RAM stick it is?
[13:41] <magnolia> ratrace: yes
[13:41] <ratrace> magnolia: there's your answer then
[13:42] <magnolia> ratrace: my question is different, 1st 2gb ram stick showed error 2 times but after that it got passed with no errors for 5-6 times, ran ubuntu and opened few tabs including video in firefox and system got freezed up
[13:43] <jeaye> Does the clang-3.6 package not offer scan-build? The scan-build online manpage says it's in clang-3.4
[13:43] <temp> 我进了ubuntu-cn,里面没人说话
[13:43] <nabn> hi. I think I have a broken disk.  the 'disks' program shows a 'Self-test failed' message on red. what do i do? is wiping out the disk a good idea? is there any other way to fix this? I'm booting from a live disk. There's some data on a partition that i'd like to backup, but it's not mounting. I tried a ntfsfix, but it says i should run a chkdsk from windows cli. Any suggestions on this?
[13:43] <magnolia> ratrace: 2nd 4gb ram is showing same error at same location again and again but its currently inserted into this laptop I'm chating from and its working perfectly fine
[13:43] <ratrace> magnolia: I'm not sure if there's anything this channel can help you with. You ran tests, found HW issues. If they're inconsistent when you exchange the sticks, maybe the MB is affected. Ain't software fault.
[13:44] <ratrace> (motherboard)
[13:44] <magnolia> any harware specific channel ?
[13:46] <ratrace> nabn: Is that Ubuntu or Windows?
[13:46] <magnolia> any harware specific channel ?
[13:46] <ratrace> magnolia: no idea
[13:46] <nabn> ratrace: it had windows previously. i am currently booting from a ubuntu live disk
[13:46] <temp> 有关于html5的中文频道吗?
[13:47] <cfhowlett> temp, English only in this channel.
[13:47] <temp> oh
[13:47] <k1l> temp: this channel is english only. so do a "/j #ubuntu-cn" if you want to write in chinese
[13:47] <temp> thinls
[13:47] <temp> thinls
[13:48] <temp> thanks
[13:48] <ratrace> nabn: 'had' windows? No more windows on that disk, just an NTFS partition with data?
[13:50] <nabn> ratrace: (it has windows)
[13:50] <ratrace> nabn: well reboot into windows and make sure you've shut it down properly, I think that problem appears when NTFS is not shut down properly. Don't know how to fix it otherwise. Maybe someone does, but that's a #windows issue then.
[13:57] <Jacob_> hello everyone
[13:57] <Guest97499> I have an ubuntu problem i need help with
[13:58] <cfhowlett> !ask | Guest97499
[13:58] <home_> 1
[13:58] <Guest97499> I am wondering if I install ubuntu to a fresh drive, will windows still be able to use the drive as storage
[13:59] <Guest97499> I am wondering if I install ubuntu to a fresh drive, will windows still be able to use the drive as storage
[13:59] <pv2b> You'll have to leave some disk space unpartitioned, so that Windows can use the remaining space for its own partitions
[13:59] <cfhowlett> Guest97499, depends on how you set it up.  my advice: follow the dual boot instructions
[13:59] <cfhowlett> !dualboot | Guest97499
[13:59] <k1l> Guest97499: you can make several partitions
[14:00] <mastranios> Hello all, Would anyone happen to know if there are any applications available for linux like tapatalk? Like a one in all for forums?
[14:00] <Guest97499> im trying to not dual boot as my OS is on my SSD, im trying to install ubuntu to a fresh drive... IF I leave part of the drive partioned off can i use it in windows that way?
[14:01] <Guest97499> and how is that done with the ubuntu installation ?
[14:01] <k1l> Guest97499: if you make a seperate ntfs partition on that hdd, yes.
[14:01] <Guest97499> Can i do that through the ubuntu setup interface
[14:01] <k1l> yes
[14:01] <Guest97499> ok
[14:02] <Guest97499> so go to install and fresh drive (which says it will wipe everything) and ill get the option to leave some partition space left?
[14:02] <k1l> choose manual partitioning in the installer and do it like you want to have it
[14:02] <lukastheblack> If you install Windows AFTER linux, Windows will overwrite the boot loader
[14:03] <Guest97499> not trying to install windows just need the extra storage space within windows
[14:03] <Guest97499> So I need to go to custom setup then?
[14:03] <lukastheblack> Then yes
[14:03] <Guest97499> ok thanks for you time
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> mastranios: tapatalk is for mobile right, what does this app do exactly, what you want to do on ubuntu?
[14:04] <home_> ciao a tutti
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> !it | home
[14:07] <ras__> what is this
[14:07] <rpiuser> hi everyone. i need a help regarding Ubuntu mate on Arm platform.
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> ras__: an ubuntu support channel
[14:07] <noiben> if my irc client crashes, is there any way i can check the logs to reply who replied me in the meantime?
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> !logs | noiben
[14:08] <k1l> rpiuser: #ubuntu-arm
[14:08] <rpiuser> k1l, thanks
[14:08] <noiben> !logs
[14:08] <k1l> noiben: use a real irc client
[14:08] <nabn_> !logs
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> noiben: what are you using for to connect to the IRC service?
[14:11] <noiben> ActionParsnip: webchat. i have irssi open too
[14:11] <noiben> ActionParsnip: webchat.freenode.net
[14:14] <MonkeyDust_> noiben  it's either irssi *or* webchat... i guess you mean irc, not irssi
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> noiben: same, the new look is great
[14:15] <noiben> MonkeyDust_: no. i have both open (with different nicks obv.). i'm googling how to view logs, not getting anything. i see nothing at irclogs.ubuntu.com
[14:15] <mastranios> Hello all, Would anyone happen to know if there are any applications available for linux like tapatalk? Like a one in all for forums?
[14:15] <noiben> ActionParsnip: do i type `!logs` at the bottom bar? coz i get nothing
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> mastranios: tell us what it does exactly first, what do you want to obtain on ubuntu?
[14:16] <mastranios> A one in all app for forums. Sort of like a forum RSS reader, you can plug in forum credentials and all of your updates are in the app
[14:16] <home_> !list
[14:19] <mastranios> lotuspsychje: Specifically something that works similar to tapatalk on mobile. An all in one forum reader/application
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> mastranios: didnt came up to something like that yet, you can use several rss viewers for ubuntu
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> mastranios: apt-cache and software centre doesnt show anything usefull neither for forum
[14:20] <mastranios> lotuspsychje: Yup I have an RSS viewer already, I too couldn't come up with anything for a forum reader. Thank you
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> mastranios: maybe the #ubuntu-touch guys know an alternative for ubuntu-touch app?
[14:24] <mastranios> lotuspsychje: thank you for your help, i will check
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> mastranios: or maybe if you find out with format these forums post to tapatalk, you could find anything usefull on ubuntu also?
[14:25] <noiben> so anyone knows how i can view channel logs on webchat.freenode.net?
[14:26] <bazhang> !1984 | noiben
[14:26] <cfhowlett> bazhang, wait, what?  they named it 1984?!
[14:26] <noiben> !1984
[14:26] <ratrace> kinda cute
[14:26] <bazhang> cfhowlett, we did, yeah
[14:27] <bazhang> noiben, go to that website
[14:27] <noiben> what time zone are the logs in? i see nothing under today's date
[14:27] <MonkeyDust_> 1984... logs, privacy, big brother... bit far fetched, tho
[14:27] <ioria> noiben, you mean this http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/09/ ?
[14:28] <mcphail> noiben: remember, only the #ubuntu channels are logged at that website. If you're trying to find a lof from a non-#ubuntu channel, you'll need to ask in that channel whether they keep logs
[14:28] <noiben> ioria: sorry if i'm too dumb. i want the logs for the last hour. in this website, i see no '#ubuntu' http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/09/17/
[14:29] <ioria> noiben, last hour ? maybe not loaded yes .... idk
[14:29] <ioria> *yet
[14:29] <bazhang> noiben, wait for the update then
[14:29] <noiben> mcphail: aaaah! now it makes sense. :D thanks!
[14:29] <noiben> bazhang: thanks! :)
[14:38] <tzar> Hi! could someone tell me how to mount a hot-plugged SATA HDD?
[14:38] <noiben> ratrace: hi. sorry to bother you again. i give up looking at the logs. my irc client disconnected after this and i didn't get your reply. please have a look: http://imgur.com/k9ZDau9
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> tzar: you will need to determine the file system first
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> tzar: sudo parted -l       will show you
[14:48] <tzar> ActionParsnip, it doesn't see this disk.
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> tzar: does the output of:   dmesg     give any clues why?
[14:50] <jackhum>  I am trying to edit document using gummi latex editor and i am getting flowfram.sty not found
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> !find flowfram.sty
[14:50] <jackhum> solutions?
[14:51] <cfhowlett> jackhum, download + install http://www.ctan.org/pkg/flowfram
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> jackhum: do you see the error when the application opens?
[14:51] <tzar> ActionParsnip, it isn't present there.
[14:52] <SchrodingersScat> !info texlive-latex-extra | jackhum
[14:53] <jackhum> ActionParsnip: I see it when i open my latex file
[14:53] <SchrodingersScat> jackhum: apt-file search flowfram.sty brought up that package, says it gives you /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/flowfram/flowfram.sty
[14:54] <cfhowlett> jackhum, confirmed: flowfram is part of the extras package
[14:54] <jackhum> cfhowlett: can you tell me what command should i run in my termiunak
[14:54] <jackhum> terminal
[14:55] <cfhowlett> jackhum, apt show texlive-latex-extra | grep flowfram                to display the flowfram part of the package
[14:56] <ioria> tzar, see if it helps  : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XyVYuApuOI
[14:57] <jackhum> should i run sudo apt-get install textlive-latex-extra?
[14:58] <jpds> jackhum: Yes
[14:58] <cfhowlett> jackhum, yep.  that will get you a nice collection of latex goodies
[14:58] <jackhum> cfhowlett: ?
[14:59] <ab123> hi
[14:59] <cfhowlett> jackhum, yep.  that will get you a nice collection of latex goodies
[14:59] <ab123> pip install psycopg2 giives me ./psycopg/psycopg.h:31:22: fatal error: libpq-fe.h: No such file or directory on 15.04
[14:59] <ab123> help
[14:59] <tzar> ioria, thanks. But lshw doesn't show this disk.
[15:00] <ioria> tzar, i think hotplug shoul be supported or enables in bios...
[15:00] <tzar> ioria, thanks, I'll check.
[15:02] <tzar> ioria, you were right.
[15:02]  * Nelson1 wonders why linux is much faster than windows
[15:02] <ioria> tzar, it's working ?
[15:03] <tzar> ioria, hot plug was disabled. Now I've rebooted it and we'll see.
[15:04] <ioria> tzar, ok ...
[15:05] <abhijit> hi
[15:05] <tzar> ioria, okay, lshw shows it. Now it should be a piece of cake. At least I hope so. Thanks.
[15:05] <abhijit> whats the postgresql dev package called in ubuntu?
[15:05] <ioria> tzar, good luck
[15:10] <sudormrf> has anyone else in here experienced network-manager instability with ubuntu gnome 15.04?  Network manager seems to crash 70% of the time I put the computer to sleep and bring it back up.
[15:10] <magnolia> how to run local paste service ? for text or pictures
[15:11] <cfhowlett> !paste | magnolia
[15:11] <SummerRain> Is it possible to install Screen Locally ?
[15:11] <SummerRain> without running sudo?
[15:12] <magnolia> cfhowlett: not on net but locally as service on own system
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> SummerRain: its the same as any install, you can ssh to the remote PC and run the usual install command
[15:13] <SummerRain> i dont have access to /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[15:13] <SummerRain> so it would need to be installed in my personal folder
[15:14] <abhijit> how to install libpq-fe.h
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> !find libpq-fe.h
[15:14] <abhijit> thats already nstalled
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: run:  sudo updatedb; locate libpq-fe.h     what is the output?
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> SummerRain: did you prefix the command with sudo?
[15:14] <SummerRain> yes
[15:14] <rhino_crash> Hello, trying to connect to my running session on another PC using X2Go client. Getting this: "Failed to restore all the required visuals. Can t resume the NX session on this dislpay" What can I do?
[15:15] <SummerRain> i dont have sudo access
[15:15] <SummerRain> its not MY server
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> SummerRain: then you cant perform admin tasks, like install packages
[15:15] <SummerRain> cant i build from source
[15:15] <SummerRain> and install on afolder?
[15:15] <SummerRain> and just run from there?
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> SummerRain: sure, you have write access to $HOME
[15:16] <jackhum> so i was trying to install texlive-latex-extra but my internet disconnected , and now i am getting "Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing"
[15:17] <abhijit> ActionParsnip, /usr/include/postgres-xc/server/gtm/libpq-fe.h and /usr/include/postgresql/libpq-fe.h
[15:18] <magnolia> how to run local paste service ? not on net but on local system for text and pictures
[15:18] <zaggynl> so my kde restart button does nothing, how should I diagnose?
[15:18] <daftykins> with a new user account
[15:18] <abhijit> ActionParsnip, u thr i was diisconnected
[15:18] <abhijit> ActionParsnip, /usr/include/postgres-xc/server/gtm/libpq-fe.h and /usr/include/postgresql/libpq-fe.h
[15:18] <jackhum> i am getting size mismatch when instaling a packeage
[15:19] <daftykins> jackhum: "sudo apt-get clean" then try again
[15:19] <abhijit> zaggynl, assign them actions in keyboard settings
[15:19] <zaggynl> abhijit: I mean the restart button from the KDE menu
[15:20] <abhijit> oh
[15:20] <abhijit> better try n #kde then
[15:20] <zaggynl> rgr
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: then its available and installed
[15:21] <abhijit> magnolia, just the regular paste server but limited to listen only on LAN card and not from internet
[15:21] <abhijit> ActionParsnip, but pip not finding it.
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: try pointing it absolutely to the file
[15:21] <abhijit> how?
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: is there a config file, or GUI setting to let you put the path to the file?
[15:22] <abhijit> no idea much about pip.
[15:22] <abhijit> pip configuration
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: time to find out
[15:22] <abhijit> tryng on python
[15:22] <abhijit> yaeoh
[15:22] <SummerRain> configure: error: !!! no tgetent - no screen
[15:22] <SummerRain> what does that mean?
[15:22] <jackhum> E: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/texlive-extra/texlive-latex-extra-doc_2013.20140215-2_all.deb  Size mismatchE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[15:23] <jackhum> got it .  it is blocked on my network
[15:23] <abhijit> jackhum, did you tried what its suggesting?
[15:23] <abhijit> :-/
[15:24] <jackhum> abhijit: yeah , well it is blocked in my college network
[15:24] <abhijit> ok
[15:24] <jackhum> can i install this , by downloading .deb package from windows ?
[15:25] <abhijit> sure. but if it has its hown 100 dependencies you will have to get them too!
[15:25] <jackhum> anyone knows how to set proxy on ubuntu ? i use proxifier on windows , but on ubuntu i have no idea
[15:26] <abhijit> !proxy
[15:26] <home_> !list
[15:26] <abhijit> :(
[15:28] <fritz4fun> crond is not running, although I did "service cron restart"
[15:28] <abhijit> ActionParsnip, thanks. bye.
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> jackhum: I use bash vars, but network manager may be able to do it
[15:29] <boodllebat> sorry internet problem
[15:32] <fritz4fun> crond is not running, although I did "service cron restart"
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> fritz4fun: any messages in the cron log ?
[15:34] <ren0v0> Ramdisk is part of system memory. Ubuntu by default uses a half of physical memory (RAM) as ramdisk    <           is this true?
[15:34] <ioria> fritz4fun, sudo service cron status ?
[15:37] <fritz4fun> ioria, cron is running, but I not crond according to ps aux
[15:37] <ioria> fritz4fun, ps -A | grep cron
[15:37] <fritz4fun> ActionParsnip, what you mean with log. >> did not create any file
[15:38] <ioria> fritz4fun, i don't know any cron(d), only cron.... :(
[15:38] <fritz4fun> ioria, crontab running, cron running
[15:38] <fritz4fun> but not crond
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> fritz4fun: no, cron has a log file in /var/log somewhere
[15:44] <magnolia> how to run local paste service ? not on net but on local system for text and pictures
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> jackhum: this is how I do it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12438830/
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> jackhum: that is in /etc/environment
[15:45] <EriC^^> magnolia: download an open source service
[15:46] <EriC^^> magnolia: for text you can fork termbin.com
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> magnolia: could just run a file server and users can dump stuff there. Have a cron'd job to wipe it before your backups run
[15:48] <bbert> anyone successfully using a thunderbolt connection (not thunderbolt to hdmi/dvi/dp/etc...) between their non-Apple motherboard (or card) and a compatible display?
[15:49] <magnolia> EriC^^: ActionParsnip my purpose was to keep my pastes with me only, anything thats uploaded on net is there forever, just wanna reduce digital footprint
[15:49] <fritz4fun> ActionParsnip, thanks for your help.
[15:49] <SummerRain> how do i tell make where ncurses package is?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> fritz4fun: I try
[15:50] <fritz4fun> ioria, appreciate your help. really
[15:50] <SummerRain> when i type ./configure? but how?
[15:50] <EriC^^> magnolia: you can put a time limit to the pastes in pastebin.com
[15:50] <ioria> fritz4fun, no problem ...
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> SummerRain: how do you mean where it is?
[15:50] <SummerRain> i installed ncurses in a different folder from source
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> SummerRain: the packages install all over your file system, he deb that was installed is in /var/cache/apt/archives
[15:51] <magnolia> EriC^^: but do pastes on pastebin are really deleted ? and dont go to backup or research team, legal agencies, etc
[15:51] <fritz4fun> is there a way to retrieve a list of all the command that somebody has used in a terminal session
[15:51] <EriC^^> magnolia: i dunno
[15:51] <EriC^^> magnolia: fork termbin.com if you want, it's pretty easy to set it up
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> c0ncealed: just read their ~/.bash_history   file
[15:52] <magnolia> EriC^^: thats what I'm pointing to... yes will try termbin but what about pictures ?
[15:52] <EriC^^> i dunno, look for something similar that's open source
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> c0ncealed: if you can use sudo then you can extract all commands to your home someplace, or if you know their passwd, then su to them and read away
[15:53] <SummerRain> make install from screen is trying to write on /usr/bin/screen-4.3.1
[15:53] <SummerRain> is there anyway to change it to a different folder?
[15:53] <SummerRain> for example /home/summerrain/blabla
[15:55] <magnolia> ActionParsnip: for ex. if I have a vsftpd server running and I wanna share a link to file to you then how will I do it ? ftp server has some local address 192.168.x.x and is behind my router which has some different ip address EriC^^
[15:55] <sudormrf> has anyone else in here experienced network-manager instability with ubuntu gnome 15.04?  Network manager seems to crash 70% of the time I put the computer to sleep and bring it back up.
[15:55] <sudormrf> I have considered setting up watchdog to automatically restart the process if it dies, but that is a hack
[15:56] <ioria> SummerRain, you should tell it in ./configure ... but why are you building from source ?
[15:56] <SummerRain> how do i tell it in ./configure ?
[15:56] <ioria> SummerRain, ./configure --prefix=$HOME
[15:56] <SummerRain> i tried this : ./configure --prefix=/home/andrelopes/private/ms and it didnt work
[15:58] <akik_> --prefix is correct
[15:59] <imp7> Just did a apt-get dist-upgrade on 14.04.03 server. It generated a new ssh key, what's the deal with that? I can't find anything in the release notes.
[16:00] <SummerRain> ioria thank you so much!
[16:00] <SummerRain> it works now
[16:01] <ioria> SummerRain, good ... but why are building from source ? there are pre-build packages ...
[16:01] <SummerRain> because i dont have root
[16:01] <SummerRain> its the uni server
[16:01] <ioria> SummerRain, ok... smart guy !
[16:02] <SummerRain> i doubt im smart but lol
[16:02] <SummerRain> ty :P ioria
[16:02] <ioria> SummerRain, no problem
[16:03] <ioria> SummerRain, remember , anyway, that you can use the binary from its folder ... you don't nedd always the 'install'
[16:03] <ioria> *need
[16:03] <SummerRain> got it
[16:04] <SummerRain> erm
[16:04] <SummerRain> g++ not detected
[16:05] <ioria> SummerRain, this is more diffisult to install without sudo
[16:05] <SummerRain> i have to install it no matter what
[16:06] <akik_> SummerRain: ask your sys admin to do that
[16:06] <SummerRain> that will take days
[16:06] <akik_> get used to it :)
[16:06] <SummerRain> cant i install it from source?
[16:07] <akik_> SummerRain: yes you can
[16:07] <akik_> SummerRain: but it takes time and effort
[16:08] <akik_> and this is off-topic for #ubuntu
[16:09] <SummerRain> but im installing on ubuntu
[16:09] <SummerRain> but i get it
[16:10] <ioria> SummerRain, try this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/build-essential
[16:11] <mmturk> i tried to boot ubuntu minimal iso but it gave me an error: "invalid boot signature"
[16:11] <mmturk> is there a way to boot minimal iso without disabling secure boot?
[16:12] <imp7> Just did an apt-get dist-upgrade on 14.04.3, and it installed cloud-init.  Never had that installed before and it causes the system to boot slowing cause of errors.  Anyone else getting this?
[16:13] <imp7> Also generated a new ssh key.  I see no release notes.
[16:19] <MonkeyDust_> imp7  sudo apt-get purge cloud-init    to get rid of it
[16:21] <imp7> Sure enough. I'm more concerned about the ssh key being regenerated. Not 100% sure if that is cloud-init related.
[16:22] <magnolia> how to record screen ?
[16:23] <jackhum> i am getting this error while using gummi , for editing latex http://pastebin.com/e7XHt5L3
[16:23] <MonkeyDust_> magnolia  byzanz is one way
[16:23] <joeman1> magnolia: Try this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts/RecordMyDesktop
[16:24] <magnolia> !byzanz
[16:25] <joeman1> byzanz does look cool thouhg... Ive never heard of it.. Thanks for the tip ;)
[16:25] <jackhum> it is asking for some flowfram.sty , so i installed texlive - latex -extra,  but i didnt installed it using apt-get beacuse it was blocked , instead i downloaded the deb file from proxy from another system and then installed the .deb file by software center , can anyone help me
[16:29] <sarink> i keep getting a "bad owner or permissions on .ssh/config" error. i've actually turned off StrictMode (this is just a VM, don't worry) in sshd_config and rebooted the box, and i still get this error. what gives?
[16:31] <lukastheblack> What's the output of "ls -la" in your home directory? Specifically the line about .ssh
[16:33] <Foogledork> sarink: And what is your username
[16:33] <Foogledork> wait
[16:33] <sarink> lukastheblack: i'm assuming something is weird because i have my ~/.ssh folder symlinked to a different directory, that directory is an nfs mounted drive shared between my vm and my mac (the reason for this is so that i can totally destroy my vm at any time, and not lose any configurations). i thought turning strictmode off in sshd would allow this to be fine? keys work, but config doesn't
[16:34] <jackhum> anyone , can please solve my latex problem , my gummi latex editor gives cant find flowfram.sty
[16:34] <sarink> lrwxrwxrwx   1 developer developer     9 Feb 18  2015 .ssh -> /share/.ssh
[16:35] <Foogledork> sarink: what are the perms on the .sshd_config
[16:35] <Foogledork> sarink: or "config" if that is the name of the file
[16:35] <Foogledork> sarink: in .ssh
[16:36] <sarink> Foogledork: 0600       -rw-------  1 501 dialout  647 Sep 17 16:18 config        maybe the problem is it's owned by the "dialout" user (which is some user vagrant makes when it automagically sets up my nfs share, i guess?)
[16:36] <Foogledork> sarink: I think that's our culprit
[16:36] <Foogledork> sarink: but
[16:37] <sarink> either way, doesn't setting "StrictModes no" make it disregard owners/permissions? Isn't that the point
[16:37] <Foogledork> sarink: it's always scary changing permissions on ssh config files
[16:38] <sarink> Foogledork: as I said, this is just a local VM I use on my mac to do some development work on, i'm not worried about leaving the permissions wide open as it's just a local machine
[16:38] <Foogledork> sarink: well then, maybe try changing the perms to 644?
[16:38] <Foogledork> sarink: *0644
[16:38] <akik_> sarink: sync the user id's of osx and ubuntu?
[16:39] <Foogledork> sarink: what Vm software are you running?
[16:39] <sarink> there must be some sshd config option to just disable this security checking? I thought "StrictModes no" would do it, but I guess that's not enough (although it sure seems like it should be from the documentation i've read)
[16:40] <sarink> Foogledork: virtualbox + vagrant
[16:41] <akik_> sarink: strictmodes seems to concern the server side checks
[16:44] <sarink> i *think* the problem is that the file is owned by the "dialout" user, and what i need to do is find a way to disable/ignore this security check. but i can't really find a way?
[16:47] <Foogledork> sarink: did you change the permissions a la chmod to 0644? That should allow read access for everyone
[16:47] <sarink> Foogledork: i did, but no dice
[16:47] <Foogledork> sarink: damn
[16:47] <akik_> sarink: did you think about syncing the user id's?
[16:48] <akik_> because that's what you want when using nfs
[16:48] <Foogledork> sarink: Did you install guest additions or whatever? It's in the Virtualbox documentation, I haven't done it for a while , but you install that from INSIDE the Virtual Machine, and that allows you to share files
[16:49] <sarink> Foogledork: i use vagrant to provision the machine, and it comes with a one-liner to enable nfs mounts/sharing. i'm not sure what implementation it uses behind-the-scenes
[16:49] <sarink> for this reason i also think trying to gain access to vagrant's auto-generated user "dialout" is probably going to be difficult/maybe impossible
[16:50] <sarink> i'm surprised there isn't a way to just disable whichever security check i'm hitting
[16:50] <sarink> surely there is, right?
[16:50] <akik_> it's called telnet
[16:50] <Foogledork> inside the Virtual machine, check /var/log/secure
[16:51] <Foogledork> sarink: does it look like the "dialout" user is trying to open a session?
[16:51] <sarink> Foogledork: i don't know what you mean by that
[16:51] <sarink> (how can i check)
[16:52] <Foogledork> sarink: if you start the virtual machine, ubuntu correct? Open a terminal session, sudo grep dial /var/log/secure
[16:52] <sarink> Foogledork: there's no /var/log/secure
[16:53] <Foogledork> sarink: what IS in /var/log
[16:53] <Foogledork> sarink:(sudo) ls /var/log
[16:53] <akik> sarink: in your paste "dialout" is actually a group. the user is id 501
[16:55] <sarink> do you think i can just add my "developer" user to the "dialout" group?
[16:55] <sarink> i'm not even 100% sure what the error wants me to do
[16:55] <akik> no. you should synchronize the user id's on your nfs server and ubuntu vm
[16:56] <sarink> akik: can you tell me how?
[16:56] <akik> i don't know how to do it on osx but i guess it's a unix system
[16:56] <akik> so maybe look into /etc/passwd
[16:57] <sarink> searched for "501" in /etc/passwd and nothing came up
[16:58] <akik> there must be an owner for the /share/.ssh/config file. look it up on the osx side
[16:58] <Foogledork> !log|sarink
[16:59] <LeoKian> Hi guys, I was wondering if anyone knew a fix for getting the error "ACPI: Unable to load system description tables" when trying to install Ubuntu from a liveUSB. I have tried acpi=off, acpi_osi="Linux", nomodeset, GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768 but it just goes back to that same white screen with the system description tables error.
[16:59] <akik> i have near 0 experience on osx
[16:59] <akik> was able to install xcode and virtualbox though
[16:59] <Foogledork> sarink: So on OSX, your user is developer?
[16:59] <sarink> is there really not a way to just disable this secruity/permissions/owners check entirely?
[17:00] <sarink> Foogledork: no the developer user is on ubuntu
[17:00] <sarink> sshd config provides StrictModes option for disabling/enabling the permissions checking of key files, surely there is an equivalent for the config file?
[17:01] <Foogledork> sarink: I feel like I am lost, what is the original error again? I am sorry to ask you to repeat yourself
[17:01] <sarink> "bad owner or permissions on .ssh/config"
[17:01] <Foogledork> sarink: When you try to ssh to the box?
[17:01] <sarink> no, when i try to ssh from the box to anywhere else
[17:01] <Foogledork> ok
[17:02] <sarink> i can get into the box just fine, once i'm there i can't ssh out of it
[17:02] <Foogledork> sarink: So you're logged into the ubuntu box as "developer" ?
[17:02] <sarink> yes
[17:02] <Foogledork> and the permissions of /home/developer/.ssh are 777 developer developer?
[17:03] <akik> come on 777 are you serious?
[17:03] <sarink> no
[17:03] <akik> you should never do that
[17:03] <Foogledork> arik ,check the history
[17:03] <Foogledork> ari__: I think thats what his output said
[17:03] <akik> 777 is not the answer. i should make a t-shirt
[17:03] <Foogledork> ^^^^
[17:03] <Foogledork> lol
[17:03] <sr4f1> Hi everyone. Is there a recommended way to delete a user where user quota is in effect? I have deleted a user with `userdel -rf` and `repquota` still shows the quota settings for that user (only shown by uid).
[17:03] <sarink> they aren't 777, so.
[17:04] <sarink> the permissions are 0700 for the folder, 0600 for the files in it
[17:04] <mmturk> i can't get minimal iso boot with secure boot on. what if i disable secure boot and complete installation and then turn secure boot back on? will it boot (given that i install shim as bootloader)?
[17:04] <Foogledork> sarink: but the files in the folder have a user of 501 and group of dialout ?
[17:04] <akik> the only paste i see is the 0600 for config
[17:05] <sarink> Foogledork: correct
[17:05] <Foogledork> sarink: Change the owner to developer with chown
[17:05] <sarink> Foogledork: it won't let me
[17:05] <Foogledork> sudo
[17:05] <sarink> still
[17:05] <Foogledork> make me a sandwhich
[17:05] <akik> i am talking to the wind
[17:05] <Foogledork> sarink: can you chmod?
[17:05] <sarink> even if i login as root it won't let me
[17:05] <sarink> yes
[17:05] <sarink> but not chown
[17:05] <mmturk> akik: do you know "the name of the wind"?
[17:05] <akik> it's f**king nfs
[17:06] <akik> sync the uid's
[17:06] <sarink> akik i have no clue how to do that
[17:06] <akik> and then automatically the username match too
[17:06] <akik> pastebin osx /etc/passwd
[17:07] <akik> 501 is some user on osx
[17:07] <sarink> akik: it is some auto-generated user created by vagrant or virtualbox
[17:08] <sarink> it's not a user on osx afaict, and it doesn't appear in passwd
[17:08] <akik> ok but then anyway. match the uid's, create a new user, anything
[17:09] <akik> it's a wonder you got nfs working btw
[17:09] <sarink> akik: i'm concerned every time i bring the box up and down that this id could change? are you sure there is no way to simply disable the security check with some sshd config option?
[17:09] <akik> i give up
[17:10] <sarink> ok, i'll match the uid's. how do i do this? sorry, i'm a ruby developer, not really an IT-pro here.
[17:11] <akik> if you open a terminal on osx and use ls -al /share/.ssh what do you get => pastebin
[17:12] <sarink> akik: http://pastie.org/10426290
[17:12] <akik> this is why devops is not easy if you don't know the basics
[17:13] <akik> sarink: and this is the contents of the nfs share?
[17:13] <sarink> this is share/.ssh
[17:13] <akik> what about id sarink
[17:15] <sarink> akik: where do i find that?
[17:15] <akik> in the terminal
[17:15] <akik> (macbook)
[17:16] <NGC3982> I'm cross-channeling a bit here, but i'm trying to figure out why i can't use motion web server without root. I can't seem to google it, and the issue is that i simply do not get the "[1] Started stream webcam server in port 8081" message without root.
[17:16] <NGC3982> What can i do?
[17:16] <sarink> akik: looks like i am 501
[17:16] <sarink> (which i assume is good news)
[17:17] <sarink> (and also means that that 501 will never change so you were right all along)
[17:17] <salomon> slt
[17:17] <sarink> ok, now what?
[17:17] <akik> sarink: so on the ubuntu vm is you "grep 501 /etc/passwd" i guess you don't get anything back?
[17:17] <akik> if you
[17:18] <salomon> slt akik
[17:18] <akik> the system does not know about the uid 501
[17:18] <sarink> akik: right, there's no 501 in passwd on the ubuntu side
[17:18] <wiko> hi
[17:18] <salomon> good afternoon
[17:18] <Hypnotoad90> hi?
[17:18] <salomon> wiko
[17:18] <wiko> good afternoon to all here too
[17:19] <akik> sarink: it's up to you how you want to sync the uid's between your nfs server (macbook) and nfs client (ubuntu vm)
[17:19] <akik> sarink: /etc/passwd is the most simplest way
[17:19] <wiko> xubuntu user
[17:19] <Hypnotoad90> is anyone here free to walk me through some basic unix server stuff?
[17:19] <Hypnotoad90> err
[17:19] <Hypnotoad90> linux*
[17:19] <salomon> i speak small english
[17:20] <wiko> hey someone here know.... how to installing popcorntime??
[17:20] <sarink> akik: i'm fine with /etc/passwd. so on the ubuntu side inside passwd i see this:   developer:x:1002:1002::/home/developer:/bin/bash
[17:20] <sarink> do i just change 1002 to 501?
[17:20] <akik> sarink: the first number is uid, the second is gid
[17:20] <salomon> you speak french
[17:20] <akik> sarink: i would make them match what you have on the macbook side
[17:21] <ioria> salomon, what you need exactly ?
[17:21] <akik> sarink: you can find the gid for staff group in /etc/group
[17:21] <sarink> akik: make the gid and the uid match?
[17:21] <Foogledork> sarink: Just my two cents but you might be better off adding a new user
[17:21] <Foogledork> and specifying the Uid and gid during creation
[17:21] <salomon> ioria, i search friend
[17:23] <sarink> akik: omg it worked
[17:23] <sarink> thank youuuuuuu!
[17:23] <akik> :)
[17:24] <akik> sarink: i did this for nokia back in the day
[17:24] <azwar> hello good night
[17:24] <akik> sarink: we used nis to provide the uid/gid information but otherwise the same concept
[17:25] <Hypnotoad90> do ubuntu servers package manager have much less access to packages than normal ubuntu?
[17:25] <akik> nowadays it's ldap if you need a centralized service for user information
[17:25] <tgm4883> Hypnotoad90: no, they have the same repos available
[17:25] <tgm4883> Hypnotoad90: you might need to enable them though
[17:25] <Hypnotoad90> tgm4883, my current situation is that i have access to an ubuntu server for a few weeks just to mess about with
[17:26] <Hypnotoad90> i'm attempting to use it to host a sauerbraten server
[17:26] <Hypnotoad90> however i cannot retrieve it from the package manager
[17:26] <Hypnotoad90> if i do  sudo apt-get install sauerbraten
[17:26] <Hypnotoad90> i get E: Unable to locate package sauerbraten
[17:27] <tgm4883> !info sauerbraten
[17:27] <tgm4883> Hypnotoad90: you probably need to edit sources.list and enable multiverse
[17:28] <Hypnotoad90> what is multiverse exactly?
[17:28] <tgm4883> Hypnotoad90: also, you probably want sauerbraten-server instead
[17:28] <tgm4883> Hypnotoad90: it's another repo
[17:28] <Hypnotoad90> E: Unable to locate package sauerbraten-server
[17:28] <tgm4883> Hypnotoad90: It's the repo of unfree software https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[17:28] <Hypnotoad90> hmm
[17:28] <tgm4883> Hypnotoad90: did you enable the repo?
[17:28] <wiko> hi  friends..
[17:29] <Hypnotoad90> not yet
[17:29] <Hypnotoad90> why is sauerbraten considered unfree?
[17:29] <wiko> someone know  how  to isntall popcorn time??
[17:30] <tgm4883> Hypnotoad90: IDK, that sounds like a question for the packagers. If I had to guess, there is some license issue with some library
[17:31] <Hypnotoad90> so is the multiverse disabled by default in ubuntu server, or is it disabled by default on standard unbutu too?
[17:31] <tgm4883> Hypnotoad90: IDK, probably just server
[17:33] <schmop> wiko: webupd8 has a pps up you can use
[17:34] <schmop> oof, missed him
[17:35] <schmop> has anyone been playing with mir?
[17:35] <Hypnotoad90> strange i couldnt find that info online anywhere
[17:36] <OerHeks> schmop, popcorn is gone, violates laws. so don't advise to use it please (webupd8 removed that stuff, yay \o/)
[17:36] <OerHeks> Hypnotoad90, multivers is disabled standard, AFAIK
[17:37] <Hypnotoad90> whats strange is that none of the guides to installing sauerbraten mentioned this
[17:38] <OerHeks> !info sauerbraten
[17:38] <SummerRain> i installed gmp in this folder : Libraries have been installed in:
[17:38] <SummerRain>    /home/andrelopes/lib
[17:39] <SummerRain> now im trying to install gcc with make , but i need to tell make where gmp is
[17:39] <SummerRain> how do i do that?
[17:41] <OerHeks> SummerRain, gmp is in our repos, ( trusty has not the latest, vivid does)
[17:42] <sleezio> hello, trying to figure out how to keep google earth from trying to open a new instance when you click on a kml/kmz link in web browser...is there a way to force it to use currently open google earth? i'm aware google earth isn't an 'ubuntu' issue, but thought maybe there's a tweak in ubuntu to fix it
[17:44] <akik> SummerRain: this is still off-topic but you can use CPPFLAGS (for header files) and LDFLAGS (for library files)
[17:47] <NGC3982> I have a monitor connected, and the monitor is showing TTY terminal. If i go to monitor settings in X and set the monitor to never sleep, it works as long as i'm in the X view, but it still turns the monitor off after a few minutes when in terminal mode. What can i do?
[17:47] <user24> I upgraded from 14.04 to 15.04 and need to install packages only available for 14.04. I have added the ppas, but now sudo apt-get update fails to fetch, because it looks up /dists/wily/main/. I assume I have to manually configure this, but how?
[17:48] <rpm_33> Regulars will know me and my WIFI woes - problems after having fresh installed over my Dell factory-installed Ubuntu. Problems connecting to WIFI and sometimes ethernet at home. Today, used laptop at work and WIFI connected perfectly. Also when I got home, it connected perfectly too. Very strange - has this problem cured itself?
[17:48] <auronandace> user24: you don't mix packages designed for different releases
[17:49] <cina> is there a maintained aleternative to sshuttle? (I want to tunnel all my net traffic to a server via SSH)
[17:49] <Hypnotoad90> if i install a package as root user, where are its configuration files located?
[17:49]  * NGC3982 managed.
[17:50] <user24> auronandace: There aren't packages for this release yet, and downgrading isn't possible either
[17:50] <auronandace> user24: you need a ppa then contact the ppa maintainer to support your release
[17:51] <user24> Will do. Is it possible to force the installation anyway (as it may take a long time)?
[17:51] <OerHeks> user24, last resort: build the source yourself?
[17:51] <rpm_33> How can I check whether I have nvidia drivers installed? Searching my computer reveals nothing for "nvidia". I would like to be able to switch from the intel integrated graphics to the separate nvidia card.
[17:52] <user24> OerHeks: Not sure if I could do that, but I will try. Thank you all!
[17:52] <auronandace> user24: if it is designed for a different release then trying to install it could cause you problems especially with the dependencies
[17:53] <schmop> Hypnotoad90: it's be in /local/bin no?
[17:54] <schmop> Hypnotoad90: check /usr/root/bin
[17:55] <Hypnotoad90> theres no root folder in usr
[17:56] <tgm4883> Hypnotoad90: what package?
[17:56] <schmop> install teh package and then type
[17:56] <schmop> Hypnotoad90: $ which package_name
[17:56] <schmop> it will tell you the location
[17:57] <schmop> ffor example
[17:57] <schmop> $which cp
[17:57] <schmop> will give
[17:57] <schmop> /bin/cp
[17:57] <Hypnotoad90> it seems to just run the program when i do that
[17:57] <MonkeyDust_> schmop  don't hit enter too often, it's getting a headache
[17:58] <user24> OerHeks: I just tried to compile it, but the compilation itself depends on sources that are only available in 14.04. I guess I will prefer a new installation to entering dependency hell.
[17:58] <tgm4883> Hypnotoad90: what package?
[17:58] <Hypnotoad90> sauerbraten-server
[17:58] <Hypnotoad90> ive found its folder
[17:58] <schmop> what is it?
[17:58] <tgm4883> Hypnotoad90: it's going to be in a bunch of directories probably
[17:59] <tgm4883> Hypnotoad90: but generally, 'dpkg -L <PACKAGENAME>' will show you all the file locations
[17:59] <schmop> the libs to support it will be in other directories, you probably just found the executable
[17:59] <Hypnotoad90> im just trying to work out where to put the server-init.cfg
[17:59] <schmop> TIL
[17:59] <tgm4883> Hypnotoad90: probably wherever the documentation says
[18:00] <tgm4883> I would guess in /etc
[18:00] <Hypnotoad90> it says "in the root Sauerbraten directory"
[18:00] <tgm4883> lol
[18:00] <tgm4883> Hypnotoad90: look in /etc
[18:04] <Hypnotoad90> in the guide im using, it says that it will be hidden inside my home directory, since i am root i assume this directory is /root
[18:04] <Hypnotoad90> however its not there
[18:05] <rpm_33> is there a command to see a list of installed drivers?
[18:06] <schmop> does /root/home exist?
[18:07] <OerHeks> rpm_33, to see available drivers: sudo ubuntu-drivers list  # to see driver in use: lshw -c video # or: lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[18:07] <schmop> Hypnotoad90: do # ls -l ~/
[18:08] <tgm4883> schmop: why would.... root is just /root
[18:08] <tgm4883> Hypnotoad90: also, not sure you should be running that as root
[18:08] <schmop> root is just a user, it will have a home directory
[18:08] <schmop> ~/ will be aliased to this directory
[18:08] <tgm4883> schmop: and it's home directory is /root
[18:09] <schmop> ok
[18:09] <tgm4883> schmop: also, if it's supposedly a hidden directory, he'll need 'ls -la'
[18:09] <Hypnotoad90> all i can find is the main executable which is at usr/lib/games/sauerbraten
[18:09] <schmop> rpm_33: lsmod
[18:10] <schmop> it says the root saurbraten direcotyr he's right
[18:10] <schmop> tgm4883: ty, got a little rusty
[18:11] <schmop> Hypnotoad90: did you get the output of dpkg -l or w/e?
[18:12] <schmop> also you can try just dropping the config in /usr/lib/games/sauerbraten
[18:12] <rpm_33> OerHeks lshw shows a "3d controller" (My nvidia card, with driver=nouveau) and a "VGA compatible controller" (The intel with driver=i915). Does this mean my computer has recognied the fact that it has an nvidia card, I just lack software to turn it on etc.?
[18:12] <schmop> yes
[18:12] <Hypnotoad90> thats what im doing for now schmop
[18:12] <ioria> !info nvidia-prime
[18:12] <schmop> there could  be two nvidia entries because there is an audio controller on the card as well
[18:13] <rpm_33> schomp my audio is intel too.
[18:13] <schmop> rpm_33: using the graphics drivers ppa was by far the easiest way to get nvidia, nvidia-prime and bumblebee working for me
[18:13] <nemith> Any clue on how i can get this dev package installed.  It looks like stale dependencies. I apt updated. https://gist.github.com/nemith/b66d9582982f8d93e979
[18:14] <schmop> rpm_33: i just reconnected after break, are you trying to get optimus working?'
[18:14] <rpm_33> i don't knwo what optimus and prime are.
[18:15] <schmop> rmc3_: optimus lets your computer turn off the nvidia card when it isn't  doing anything graphically intensive to save power
[18:15] <NicholasCage> My Banshee isn't starting.. I've tried all within my range of knowledge and also some googling but to no avail. Anyone want a shot at it? http://sprunge.us/NBaJ
[18:16] <rpm_33>  schomp, i don't even know how to turn it on yet! I'm used to having an nvidia thing in my system preferences or control panel or whatever.
[18:16] <Hypnotoad90> looks like i managed to connect to it
[18:16] <ioria> nemith, are you fully updated ?
[18:16] <Hypnotoad90> i guess it worked
[18:17] <Hypnotoad90> i just dont understand how a user is supposed to know all this stuff
[18:17]  * Hypnotoad90 shrugged
[18:17] <rpm_33> you see my laptop came installed from the factory with ubuntu, I stupidly wiped it and reinstalled fresh.
[18:17] <OerHeks> rpm_33, yes, Open "Nvidia x-server settings" and you will see 'prime ' there
[18:17] <tgm4883> Hypnotoad90: well looking at it, it seems to be a terribly documented program
[18:17] <Hypnotoad90> hmm
[18:17] <Hypnotoad90> its one of the more popular open source fps games out there tho
[18:18] <rpm_33> How do i get nvidia x-server settings?
[18:19] <schmop> i guess modify the config in a way that you know your changes applied?
[18:19] <ioria> rpm_33, if you are using nouveau , you don't have it probably
[18:20] <schmop> rpm_33: yea, it's very different on linux, as there isn't much official support
[18:20] <schmop> rpm_33: what version are you on? 14.04.2?
[18:20] <esseks> hi folks! I just installed 14.04.3 on an old laptop (BIOS) and I am experiencing a weird issue. If I make the grub boot menu appear and choose the first entry I can boot just fine, but if I wait the hidden timeout, I get a blank screen.
[18:23] <rpm_33> In my "additional drivers" tab of software & updates, it says: "Nvidia Corporation: unknown  This device is using an alternative driver." Then there are 4 radio buttons *Using Nvidia Binary Driver 346.82, 340.76, 346.82, 340.76. But the 5th radio button that's switched on says * Using X.Org X-Server Nouveau Display Driver from xserver-xorg...
[18:23] <rpm_33> I'm on 14.04LTS
[18:24]  * schmop has no clue how to pm a user
[18:25] <rpm_33> Actually the hell with it, here's what the menu looks like: http://pasteboard.co/IguDlkr.png
[18:25] <nemith> ioria: yes i just did an update
[18:26] <ioria> nemith, apt-cache policy libgtk-3-dev
[18:27] <nemith> ioria: https://gist.github.com/nemith/72a3f29ad40946149cf8
[18:27] <nemith> oh
[18:27] <nemith> i am i missed deb-src from proposed?
[18:28] <schmop> rpm_33:
[18:28] <nemith> i don't want proposed on this box anyway
[18:28] <nemith> whoops :)
[18:28] <schmop> rpm_33: the easiest way is to follow the directions in this article http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/08/ubuntu-nvidia-graphics-drivers-ppa-is-ready-for-action
[18:28] <ioria> nemith, are you 15.04 ?
[18:29] <ImperiousRooster> Ποιες θεωρειτε οτι ειναι οι σημαντικοτερες συνεπειες σε ατομικο και κοινωνικο επιπεδο απο τη μαζοποίηση και τι μπορει να κανει το σχολειο σρην αντιμετωωπιση του φαινομενου..
[18:29] <nemith> ioria: yes
[18:29] <pbx> !gr| ImperiousRooster
[18:30] <ImperiousRooster> Thank you
[18:30] <rpm_33> schmop, ok I understand adding ppas, but how do I know which driver to install? the give the example of nvidia-355, how do I know which one is for me?
[18:31] <rpm_33> schmop my card is Nvidia Quadro K1100M
[18:33] <ioria> nemith, well, i really don't get it... but you have 3 ver... and is trying to install  3.14.15  but you need  3.14.13 ... where this 'proposed' comes from ?
[18:33] <esseks> further investigating: actually the hidden timeout doesn't change, what happens is boot -> fail, switch off, boot -> success. Weird :\
[18:34] <boris> are X settings on topic here?
[18:34] <ratrace> esseks: that happens to me too, every other boot failing, and I'm on 15.04.
[18:36] <ioria> nemith, have you edited sources.list or add repos ?
[18:36] <NicholasCage> What can I do to sort Banshee out ? http://sprunge.us/NBaJ
[18:37] <rpm_33> schmop I read that someone couldn't get 319.72 drivers to install on his laptop (same as mine)https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/676494/linux/is-there-a-driver-even-a-beta-for-the-quadro-k1100m-solved-/, but it's listed as a supported product on the Nvidia site http://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/69378/en-us.
[18:38] <rpm_33> The "propriatary tested" one listed on my "additional drivers tab" is called 346.82 - and my laptop is also lsited as "supported product" on the Nvidia page too http://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/69378/en-us
[18:40] <nemith> ioria: somewhat.  I just removed proposed and downgraded the packages
[18:40] <nemith> I am ok now
[18:40] <nemith> ioria: thanks!
[18:41] <ioria> nemith, working ?
[18:41] <rpm_33> Is there something like an Nvidia control panel for Ubuntu that I can get once my new driver is finished downloading and enabled?
[18:41] <akik> rpm_33: did you figure out the way to reinstall your laptop from scratch?
[18:42] <rpm_33> akik no, strangely the WIFI hasn't acted up at all today (touch wood), so I'm holding on for the time being. Therefore I'm interested in getting the most oout of my GPU right now.
[18:42] <subterfuge> I had a full /boot directory, I deleted all the old ones, left the newest, reboot and i killed it, all the gubs listed in advanced options are the ones I deleted, 63 the newest isn't listed, I am at 'grub>' how do I fix this... thanks in advance
[18:43] <akik> rpm_33: ok so do you think it has something to do with ubuntu version 14.04, 14.04.1, 14.04.2 ? that dell made their support package for some certain version
[18:43] <wileee> subterfuge, Had you done an update-grub in the install after this?
[18:44] <subterfuge> wileee, no I know I should have, I have done it before, but I forgot
[18:45] <wileee> subterfuge, if a kernel is there you can can manually boot, or use a live to fix this, or use supergrub to get in and fix.
[18:45] <rpm_33> akik I have no basis for comparison - this is my first ubuntu computer, and it came preinstalled (14.0.4LTS)
[18:46] <subterfuge> wileee, encrypted system...
[18:46] <subterfuge> wileee, I can decrypt just fine, I mean that as a question to how it affects the fix
[18:47] <wileee> subterfuge, Ah, no clue here, give a full outline of where you're at though, how you removed, the partitions and uefi or msdos and any other OS;s to the channel.
[18:47] <wileee> subterfuge, I never encrypt myself is all.
[18:47] <rpm_33> Can I ask - there's a deep learning library I'm using at the moment, it has support for CPU matrix operations and GPU matrix operations. When I write code that makes calls to the GPU-based methods, how does python access the graphics card and do my matrix oprations on it?
[18:48] <rpm_33> I heard I might need to install some "cuda" thing?
[18:49] <MonkeyDust_> rpm_33  there's also #python
[18:50] <rpm_33> Well I don't mean python specifically, I'm talking generally.
[18:50] <rpm_33> I guess what I'm saying is how do you write code that accesses specific hardware like that?
[18:51] <ioria> rpm_33, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5957554/python-gpu-programming
[18:51] <Knight80> Hello everyone
[18:51] <subterfuge> wileee, only OS is Ubuntu, I manually all the files related with the older grub installs, whatever.whatever.x-x.x-63 was the newest.  I left those alone.  I then rebooted before updating which I know was wrong.  on reboot it ask for PW to decrypt which works fine then it takes me to a GNU GRUB  menu to pick 'Ubuntu' or 'Advanced options for Ubuntu" the first option just loops back all the grubs listed in advanced loop back to...
[18:52] <Knight80> Excuse me... How can I install Ubuntu's updates from the terminal?
[18:52] <subterfuge> wileee, ***manually deleted***
[18:52] <MonkeyDust_> Knight80  sudo apt update;sudo apt upgrade
[18:52] <Knight80> MonkeyDust_ Thank you very much
[18:53] <bipul> Knight80, Or try to update from Ubuntu Software centre
[18:53] <Knight80> Thank you
[18:53] <bipul> Knight80, Your welcome :)
[18:58] <wileee> subterfuge, look in advanced for kernels and or the recovery boot. From here it is hard to really tell what has happened and what is still there. If it were me and I new the kernel was there, I would just boot in with supergrub, however I know nothing about encryption so the channel is a better resource.
[18:58] <wileee> knew*
[18:59] <subterfuge> wileee, other than knowing the name I don't know about supergrub should I just google?  do you have a link? or is it something you can explain with ease?
[19:01] <wileee> subterfuge, I would just wait for more help here, my first post has three options, before knowing of the encrypt, in the end you want help that knows. This is exactly why I don't encrypt, seems cool but a good way to brick the install past you're fixing it yourself.
[19:02] <bipul> wileee, What are you talking about? Do you mind share with us?
[19:02] <wileee> bipul, What is your actual question?
[19:03] <bipul> lol
[19:03] <bipul> My actual question is what is your question :)
[19:03] <wileee> bipul, I don;t have one, moron.
[19:03] <subterfuge> wileee, yes it complicates days like this, but I travel a lot, I would rather have to do a clean install because i messed up than risk my data on the open market when the "airline losses my bag" or other situation...
[19:05] <bipul> wileee, I hope  i did not hurt you? And i am sorry again.
[19:05] <souvik> is it possible to install itunes in ubuntu??
[19:06] <Knight80> souvik I'm afraid you can't
[19:06] <souvik> really?
[19:06] <Knight80> souvik But you have Banshee and Rhythmbox
[19:06] <souvik> den how am i going to use my ipod? :(
[19:07] <Knight80> souvik Try Banshee
[19:07] <souvik> is it possible to access apple ipod with dose ??
[19:07] <souvik> ok i will try
[19:07] <souvik> thanx bro
[19:07] <Knight80> souvik You're welcome
[19:08] <ioria> http://sourcedigit.com/13095-install-itunes-ubuntu-14-10-ubuntu-14-04/     don't sure about this ...
[19:09] <souvik> is it possible to connect windows phone with ubuntu?
[19:09] <souvik> when i connecting my windows phone...with my pc...im getting no response
[19:11] <bipul> souvik, Check whether your Window phone is being deducted by Ubuntu.
[19:11] <ioria> !info qlix
[19:12] <souvik> im sorry..dint get u
[19:12] <bipul> souvik, dmesg | grep -i usb
[19:13] <souvik> ok i will try this...thanx for ur help
[19:13] <bipul> Are you trying to connect with USB port? souvik
[19:13] <souvik> yes
[19:13] <souvik> usb
[19:15] <bipul> dmesg | grep -i usb | grep <Mobile-Device-Name>
[19:16] <bipul> souvik,   dmesg | grep -i usb | grep <Mobile-Device-Name>
[19:16] <souvik> like my device name is microsoft lumia 535
[19:16] <souvik> so i will write dat as my device name right?
[19:17] <bipul> souvik, Yes, try it. I have just now tried with my android set :) it works to me.
[19:17] <souvik> ok i will try now
[19:18] <bipul> souvik, Yes, try and let me know :)
[19:18] <souvik> sure :)
[19:20] <bipul> souvik, Did you try googling ? since i  found few articles on that :) I hope it will productive for you. :)
[19:20] <bipul> http://askubuntu.com/questions/367927/how-to-connect-nokia-lumia-520-to-ubuntu-12-04
[19:21] <souvik> no i dint try....ok i will try those
[19:21] <souvik> thanks for ur concern :)
[19:21] <Knight80> souvik Did you try Banshee?
[19:22] <souvik> yes installing dat actually
[19:24] <souvik> hey bipul....its saying no such file or directory
[19:25] <bipul> It means your lumia is Unable to get deducted by your ubuntu.
[19:25] <souvik> yup :(
[19:29] <bipul> souvik, Try this dpkg -s gvfs-mtp
[19:30] <souvik> i will try dis code after connecting my phone with the pc right?
[19:30] <bipul> no
[19:30] <souvik> thanks Knight!!...it worked...my ipod is connected!!
[19:31] <bipul> I am just wanted to see whether you have this package installed or not.
[19:32] <souvik> 'gvfs-mtp' is not installed and no information is available
[19:32] <souvik> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[19:32] <souvik> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[19:32] <souvik> i get dis response...after typing dat
[19:34] <bipul> souvik, PM?
[19:34] <souvik> what?
[19:35] <bipul> souvik, Am i allow to send you message in Personally?
[19:35] <souvik> yes y not
[19:35] <bipul> :)
[19:35] <NicholasCage> What can I do to sort Banshee out ? http://sprunge.us/NBaJ
[19:36] <meinRTL> How secure is Ubuntu's 'EncryptedHome'? Can I just turn it on and stop worrying?
[19:37] <souvik> whats ur problem with banshee??
[19:42] <nug700> how do I disable the "alt+click" to move application window thing?
[19:43] <nug700> it's interfering with the application's hotkeys
[19:44] <hydra-man3343> hi
[19:48] <Norbin> he came to say hi
[19:48] <Norbin> ^_^
[19:50] <souvik> lol :D
[19:51] <nug700> how do I change my keyboard shutcuts in ubuntu 15.04?
[19:51] <Volund> SO I'm pondering switching to LXLE to replace my Windows OS but since #lxle is pretty much empty I'll ask here instead
[19:52] <Volund> I've been using Remote Desktop obviously because that's what Windows gives me. My previous attempts to use VNC and its offshoots didn't come close to what Remote Desktop did. RDP gave me a much smoother experience in WINDOWS but I cannot really say what Linux will do. However, it's a dealbreaker if I can't get a good remote control session going and use my MUSHclient (running in WINE) on the laptop via remote control.
[19:52] <akik> Volund: x2go is what you want
[19:53] <Volund> x2go, huh. *investigates*
[19:53] <nug700> how do I change the keyboard shutcuts. Settings>Keyboard>shortcuts list doesn't have all of them in it.
[19:53] <nug700> Application shortcuts*
[19:53] <natury> hey
[19:53] <MrVoltz>  Hi, I'm using ubuntu trusty-based distro and I need to run some command before mounting drives in fstab. Where I can put that command?
[19:54] <MonkeyDust_> MrVoltz  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[19:55] <Volund> so my LXLE will work with x2go...
[19:55] <kostkon> MrVoltz, which one
[19:55] <MrVoltz> eOS freya
[19:55] <MrVoltz> but that doesn't matter
[19:55] <MrVoltz> it is all the same
[19:55] <kostkon> MrVoltz, we only support Ubuntu here
[19:55] <MrVoltz> i could guess it
[19:56] <MrVoltz> so I'm using ubunt uthen
[19:56] <kostkon> MrVoltz, Ubuntu and its official derivatives
[19:56] <MrVoltz> Pretend that I am using ubuntu
[19:56] <akik> Volund: i haven't tested lxle (thanks for mentioning it) but in the x2go client you can specify the command to start on login
[19:56] <MonkeyDust_> MrVoltz  no, give us the output of   cat /etc/issue
[19:57]  * Volund is doing all kinds of googly-fu
[19:57] <souvik> MonkeyDust please run that code in the terminal
[19:57] <MrVoltz> already found some folk on ##linux, that isn't like you
[19:58] <Norbin> hello tast kiasd foood /script install spell_correction.py
[19:58] <Norbin> sorry
[19:58] <Inoki> hey all, if I'm on k3.16 Ubuntu 14.04.2, how do I upgrade so I get k3.19 Ubuntu 14.04.3? Which package do I need?
[20:00] <akik> Volund: it's also cross platform so you can access the same session from place A with linux and from place B with windows
[20:00] <akik> not at the same time though i think
[20:00] <nug700> How do I remove the alt+left mouse, alt+middle mouse, and alt+right mouse hotkeys from ubuntu 15.04?
[20:02] <kro2488> So went to run sudo apt-get update today and it gets stuck and will just say 100% working at the bottom left, what would cause this?
[20:03] <kro2488> Actualy im watching it while im typing this and it is going just very very very slow
[20:03] <bekks> kro2488: Just wait for it to finish.
[20:03] <wileee> kro2488, change the repo and see if this continues.
[20:04] <kro2488> ah ok
[20:04] <kro2488> its mainly the tox repos it deems
[20:04] <wileee> finish wait is good however
[20:04] <kro2488> when it gets there in the list its like wtf? lol
[20:06] <Volund> so I have USB headphones.
[20:06] <Volund> will Linux handle USB headphones?
[20:06] <Foogledork> Volund: I have a logitech G930 and it works great
[20:07] <wileee> Volund, run a live and see, should not be an issue.
[20:07] <Volund> I suppose that's the point where I'm at
[20:07] <Foogledork> Volund: Caveat: I have only really tested on Fedora and Mint, but if it works on Mint, I would think you are in business
[20:10] <Volund> okay, I'm switching to LXLE LiveUSB now
[20:16] <Volund> greetings from LXLE LiveUSB.
[20:17] <deper29> Volund: I have no issues with my USB headphones
[20:17] <Foogledork> Volund: Welcome back
[20:17] <Foogledork> Volund: And the verdict is?
[20:17] <deper29> Razer Megalodon
[20:18] <Volund> grandma's poking me, gimme a moment
[20:20] <Volund> my headphones work :D
[20:25] <Volund> but my volume slider does not >_<
[20:34] <ominds> Hello all, I moved my HD to a new laptop. Booting is fine, but when I shutdown the laptop freezes. I wonder what I can do to reconfigure acpi and power configs
[20:41] <Volund> AUGH
[20:41] <MonkeyDust_> ominds  start here ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI
[20:41] <Volund> I drag Seamonkey window -entirely- over to the other monitor and it snaps to the right side of the first monitor. WHAT
[20:42] <MonkeyDust_> Volund  drag it to right side, but don't let the mouse cursor hit the side ... then switch to the other monitor and drag further
[20:42] <Volund> once I find it. I think I just put it on an alternate desktop
[20:43] <Volund> there we go
[20:43] <Volund> ... is there a way to change that behavior? because that is unintuitive...
[20:43] <MonkeyDust_> Volund  and explore unity-tweak-tool ... for this case: Window snapping
[20:43] <Volund> MonkeyDust: I'm using LXLE so LXDE. @_@
[20:44] <MonkeyDust_> is that even supported here?
[20:45] <Volund> this is the only place I can really go for it. D:
[20:45] <Volund> I'm currently investigating things to see if I can customize my work environment to my liking similar to Windows
[20:46] <OerHeks> LXLE is a remastered version of Ubuntu/Lubuntu LTS release, so a FORK.
[20:48] <OerHeks> Volund, according to their website http://www.lxle.net/support-options/ seek help in #lxle here on #freenode
[20:49] <MonkeyDust_> yes, 3 people there, probably bots
[20:49] <akik> so.. what is the difference between lubuntu and lxle?
[20:49] <OerHeks> akik,  see that site, i hate copy pasting
[20:50] <Volund> the #lxle channel has 4 people in it. You try finding help there. :(
[20:50] <akik> i just don't see the point
[20:50] <Volund> :(
[20:50] <Volund> gah why is my text not showing
[20:50] <nikos> Hi, I have xubuntu 14.04 and facing a problem with abiword not opening, any help?
[20:50] <akik> Volund: i can see you :)
[20:51] <bekks> Volund: That small channel doesnt make lxle being supported in here ;)
[20:51] <nikos> the terminal gives me: abiword: error while loading shared libraries: libwayland-egl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:51] <Volund> hrmngh. maybe Is hould try just straight Ubuntu instead. I like the LXLE desktop environment but...
[20:51] <bekks> nikos: AS you asked in xubuntu already: you are trying to use a package for raring in your trusty release. Thats not going to work.
[20:51] <Volund> yeah I'm gonna switch
[20:51] <Volund> brb
[20:51] <k1l> we cant know what LXLE did change so if that behaviour is intended or not. so please use the distros support (channel) for questions regarding that.
[20:52] <akik> Volund: you might like kubuntu (kde) better than the stock ubuntu with unity
[20:52] <k1l> if he likes lxde why doesnt he use Lubuntu in the first place....
[20:54] <nikos> I don't want to keep any invalid package, I want to fix abiword, is it so difficult to understand?can you actually help???
[20:55] <k1l> nikos: so what is the issue? what raring repos come in to play there?
[20:56] <bekks> k1l: http://repo.acestream.org/ubuntu
[20:58] <nikos> tried to install libwayland-egl1-mesa_10.1.0-4ubuntu5_i386.deb, but it has conflict with xserver-xorg-lts-vivid.
[20:59] <bekks> nikos: Why are you manually trying to install packages which arent in the repo for your release?
[20:59] <bekks> nikos: Thats one of the questions you didnt answer in #xubuntu
[21:00] <k1l> nikos: does "sudo update-alternatives --config  x86_64-linux-gnu_egl_conf" give you more than one option?
[21:01] <nikos> because I was mistaken as it is obvious ,how does your question help???
[21:02] <ominds> MonkeyDust_, will do, but the point is that I'm sure it has something to do with my HD having been on a different laptop before. So some stored configs from previous machine are wrong. Is there a way I can purge all configs related to ACPI so that they can re-constructed?
[21:02] <nikos> kill: sudo update-alternatives --config  x86_64-linux-gnu_egl_conf
[21:03] <nikos> error: no alternatives for x86_64-linux-gnu_egl_conf
[21:04] <Volund> well I'm now on Ubuntu LiveUSB
[21:04] <k1l> ok, so why does that software want wayland then? it doesnt seem like its libhybris
[21:05] <k1l> Volund: you are aware that there is Lubuntu which is an official ubuntu with the lxde desktop?
[21:05] <nikos> actually it's ace player,based on vlc
[21:06] <Volund> hrmngh
[21:06] <nikos> I removed with synaptics any ''acestream'' I found
[21:07] <Volund> I did try Lubuntu but my problem was largely with finding it difficult to configure some of the basics to my liking in a reasonable amount of time. I might switch to that next if I can't configure a workspace to my liking in Unity
[21:07] <k1l> abiword should not load any wayland stuff at all.
[21:07] <akik> Volund: after you hang up -> you might like kubuntu (kde) better than the stock ubuntu with unity
[21:08] <Volund> I might. @_@
[21:08] <nikos> the terminal gives me: abiword: error while loading shared libraries: libwayland-egl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:08] <Volund> I'm using LiveUSBs right now to see which feels most favorable to me.
[21:08] <NicholasCage> I need help debugging this error report from dbg
[21:09] <NicholasCage> http://sprunge.us/NBaJ
[21:09] <Jordan_U> nikos: Please pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy abiword".
[21:10] <Volund> okay Ubuntu LIKES my headphones
[21:10] <Volund> it even picks up on the volume controls physically on them. SWANKY
[21:11] <Volund> okay so here's a few things I want/need to be able to do if I switch to Ubuntu fully
[21:13] <Volund> first I need to be able to use my laptop to take remote control of it and access files. the latter I know can be done with Samba shares. but can I get a smooth remote control to Ubuntu that lets me access my instant messengers, MUSHclient running in WINE, etc?
[21:13] <k1l> nikos: "apt-cache policy libwayland-egl1-mesa" in a pastebin please
[21:13] <Volund> I know x2go worked with LXDE but I'm not sure what options I have with Unity
[21:14] <compdoc> Volund, dont think any remote desktop software works with Unity
[21:14] <Volund> >_<
[21:14] <compdoc> maybe teamviewer
[21:14] <Volund> ewwwww
[21:14] <liquidmetal> Bashing-om, hey!
[21:14] <compdoc> but thats widely reported to be hacked
[21:15] <compdoc> I install a minimal Ubuntu Server (no bluetooth or libreoffice) and install mate on that, with x2go
[21:15] <compdoc> I love x2go
[21:16] <nikos> Jordan_U http://pastebin.com/Xh0PAgFF
[21:16] <Volund> Lubuntu runs LXDE which is compatible with x2go IIRC.
[21:16] <akik> Volund: you're right
[21:16] <compdoc> Im sure many 2d desktops work
[21:17] <Volund> looks like Lubuntu it is
[21:18]  * Volund restarts into Windows again...
[21:18] <nikos> Kill: http://pastebin.com/MXkFNuhR
[21:18] <k1l> nikos: sudo apt-get install libwayland-egl1-mesa
[21:21] <rpm_33> how do you know if your hardware is supported with correct drivers? Is there a list of drivers that ubuntu comes pre-loaded with, or can download on demand?
[21:21] <nikos> Kill: http://pastebin.com/yBt5JgKW
[21:22] <rpm_33> Do drivers ever get updated through the regular "software updates" program?
[21:22] <k1l> rpm_33: depends
[21:22] <rpm_33> ??
[21:22] <k1l> nikos: where you here the last days?
[21:22] <crayolarx> If they are in a package then sure
[21:23] <OerHeks> rpm_33, to see available drivers: sudo ubuntu-drivers list
[21:23] <k1l> rpm_33: generally there are only updates while a release is already released for heavy bugs and security issues. but for LTS there is the HWE (hardware enablement stack)
[21:24] <k1l> nikos: sudo apt-get install unity-control-center
[21:24] <nikos> Kill: what do you mean,I first came here today
[21:25] <rpm_33> sudo ubuntu-drivers list only displays a list of nvidia drivers (i only use the most up to date one).
[21:25] <nikos> Kill: http://pastebin.com/Dvstvnbw
[21:26] <rpm_33> i want to know if my network card has the right drivers
[21:26] <fornax> I ordered a new server with Ubuntu 15.04 and have several messages like " *BAD*gran_size: 1M         chunk_size: 512M         num_reg: 10          lose cover RAM: -16M" in dmesg. They already changed the RAM since I thought this might be a memory error. Can this be a hardware problem or is this some kernel related problem?
[21:26] <k1l> nikos: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[21:26] <k1l> rpm_33: ok, so now we come to the real question. are there any issues with that card?
[21:28] <rpm_33> there are various threads about the intel 7260 card not having great performance on ubuntu. but my laptop came from the factory with ubuntu installed.
[21:28] <rpm_33> however I stupidly wiped it with a fresh install
[21:28] <Foogledork> !log | fornax
[21:28] <rpm_33> so i'm trying to see if ive got the right driver for it
[21:28] <rpm_33> but i dont know how?
[21:29] <Volund> okay dinner time for me but
[21:29] <Volund> I'm now looking between Kubuntu and Lubuntu
[21:30] <akik> rpm_33: modinfo queries the information about a kernel module. you can find device lists in the output of that command
[21:31] <fornax> ubottu I'm a little bit confused, what do you want to say with this link? I cannot even search them?
[21:32] <naftilos76> Hi, i am trying to compress a file with zip without storing path data for that file in the zip but it does not work. I am using flag-D to prevent path from being stored in the zip. Let's consider this: zip -D ~/test.zip /home/naftilos76/test.txt . Can anybody help?
[21:32] <Volund> so last time I tried using Lubuntu I had to do some really weird stuff to choose my sound card to use for output and other things... not sure what will happen on my desktop PC though
[21:32] <akik> rpm_33: if your device is working right, why do you question it?
[21:32] <Volund> last time I tried Lubuntu it was on my laptop
[21:32] <k1l> fornax: it was the wrong factoid from Foogledork
[21:32] <Volund> does Kubuntu and x2go get along?
[21:32] <Foogledork> sporry
[21:33] <fornax> Foogledork Okay, so I was really confused ;-)
[21:33] <Foogledork> This is like, my first day using irssi, and like 2.5th using IRC
[21:33] <akik> Volund: i've tested x2go with kde 4 and it works
[21:33] <k1l> Volund: so what is your issue now in just testing Lubuntu?
[21:33] <fornax> Foogledork No problem, this is the first day I did not realize and  spoke to a bot ;-)
[21:33] <naftilos76> Please disregard my question, i did it with flag -j
[21:34] <Volund> k11: haven't started yet, currently eating dinner
[21:34] <Foogledork> fornax: I was trying to filter out all your messages to further help with your issue
[21:35] <Volund> I'm just assuming (possibly wrongly) that Kubuntu might be friendlier than Lubuntu's really lightweight approach based on how much was involved in setting up my sound last time.
[21:35] <nikos> kill: http://pastebin.com/R9RgMntj
[21:35] <k1l> Volund: just test it. we cant know what your issues where last time and if it was due to the special hardware
[21:36] <fornax> Foogledork No problem. Do you probably have an idea if this is a hardware error?
[21:36] <Foogledork> fornax: unfortunately my initial thought is "i don't know"
[21:36] <Volund> k11: What I'm saying is that Lubuntu didn't even have a menu to pick which sound card to use for my output :P
[21:36] <Volund> but righto
[21:36] <fornax> I have the problem that the new server behaves very very strange. When I install lxc on the fresh server, I have some glitches where I have no idea what the reason is.
[21:37] <Foogledork> fornax: but give me moment, I am kind of trying to parse throguh it
[21:37] <fornax> I created a video at http://jacksonmobile.de/error.mp4 where you can have a look what happens when I try to enter the password in a newly created lxc container
[21:37] <k1l> nikos: so does it work now?
[21:38] <bekks> fornax: How about describing it instead?
[21:38] <bekks> fornax: Is it those dmesg entries from above?
[21:38] <k1l> nikos: what is "uname -a"?
[21:39] <fornax> bekks When I could simply describe it, I would not have taken the time to make a video ;-) Yes, it is the same server. i thought it might be a hardware problem. uname -a shows the kernel and some server info
[21:39] <k1l> nikos: and please show a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/" in a pastebin
[21:39] <Ben64> if you're going to make a 46MB video, you should put it on a server faster than 200K/s
[21:40] <akik> fornax: have you tried lxc-attach ?
[21:40] <bekks> fornax: so what does the support of your VPS hoster say? :)
[21:40] <nikos> kill: I'm afraid no: abiword: error while loading shared libraries: libwayland-egl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:40] <fornax> one moment, preparing the pastebin. My hoster already changed the memory
[21:40] <Ben64> fornax: you took a video of text? use a pastebin
[21:41] <nikos> kill: http://pastebin.com/eVUA3RPa
[21:42] <fornax> Ben64 You cannot show a race condition with a text, the problem are the latencies and that the password or username is not accepted etc. Look exactly what happens while entering my credentials
[21:42] <Ben64> yep you show text in a 46MB video that could have easily been a pastebin
[21:42]  * Volund finishes downloading Kubuntu, finishes setting up Live USB, will reboot to Lubuntu in a moent
[21:43] <Knuckle> can someone help me figure out what is going on with my pc?
[21:43] <Knuckle> I'm running ubuntu gnome, and for SOME obscure reason
[21:43] <nikos> kill: I'm not sure what you mean with "uname -a"
[21:43] <Knuckle> visiting certain websites in firefox
[21:43] <Knuckle> causes xorg to crash
[21:43] <OerHeks> Knuckle, easy on the enter, please
[21:43] <k1l> nikos: enter that commmand and show the line in here please
[21:44] <Knuckle> OerHeks, I'll try, but no promises, I'm already having enough trouble not sticking my fist through my monitor
[21:44] <fornax> Ben64 And concerning the server, I would really like to put it on a faster server, but this is unfortunately the server that does not work. However, I can access the video with approx 8 MBit
[21:45] <Knuckle> it's reproducible by the way, pretty much every time I visit vine (happens accidentally because I randomly click something on reddit) I have to go grab something to drink because my screen goes black and it takes a few minutes before it restarts xorg
[21:46] <nikos> kill: Linux X-ACER 3.19.0-28-generic #30~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 1 09:33:32 UTC 2015 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[21:46] <Knuckle> as a sidenote, it's really annoying that the virtual TTY's don't work in ubuntu gnome 15.04 (or is that just me?)
[21:47] <k1l> nikos: "sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-trusty"
[21:47] <fornax> But I can describe my problem in text again. When I for example start a new and fresh lxc container and want to enter my password I can not correcly enter the password because the system stops reading the password after a few seconds, asks again, says timeout, hangs while entering the username or password etc. And this after a few milliseconds, after a few seconds or after a few minutes...
[21:48] <akik> fornax: have you tried using lxc-attach to enter your container?
[21:48] <Volund> almost done with dinner. soon to try again
[21:48] <fornax> akik Good idea, I will try it
[21:49] <rpm_33> what is iwlwifi?
[21:49] <k1l> rpm_33: a wifi driver
[21:49] <nikos> kill: http://pastebin.com/RJdQA4D8
[21:49] <k1l> rpm_33: do you have an issue with that card or not? or are you just hunting a ghost here?
[21:49] <rww> for a few Intel wifi cards
[21:49] <fornax> akik lxc-attach works without problems, but why does lxc-console has a problem?
[21:50] <rpm_33> are there lots of different versions? how do i know whether mine is the right one? chasing a ghost - possibly?
[21:50] <k1l> nikos: does it work now?
[21:50] <rww> rpm_33: does it work? if so, it's the right one
[21:50] <rpm_33> it works so-so.
[21:50] <akik> fornax: i don't know
[21:50] <rpm_33> erratic
[21:50] <rww> sounds about right for hardware using non-free software drivers
[21:51] <rww> slash firmware
[21:51] <k1l> rpm_33: its a package stuffed with drivers for several cards. so if it works its the right one. if you have issues get the details of what ubuntu exactly, what hardware exactly etc and see if that is a known issue.
[21:51] <nikos> kill: No,still: error while loading shared libraries: libwayland-egl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:51] <fornax> akik I have nearly the same server setup on an other machin (hard and software) and there is no problem. So I thought it might be a hardware problem but want to check it, before I call the support
[21:51] <Ben64> nikos: its k1l not kill
[21:52] <k1l> nikos: ok, so my last idea now: "sudo apt-get install libegl1-mesa-drivers"
[21:53] <k1l> nikos: after that: "cd /etc/alternatives" then "sudo update-alternatives --set *-gnu_egl_conf /usr/lib/*/mesa-egl/ld.so.conf" and last: "sudo ldconfig"
[21:54] <akik> fornax: i'm just running one centos container under ubuntu
[21:56] <fornax> Okay, then I'm probably lost. Strange thing
[21:57] <ibouvousaime> Hey guys how can I put a linux install iso in a usb drive without formatting the drive ?
[21:58] <akik> ibouvousaime: with dd. it will overwrite the drive
[21:58] <rww> so... not what they want then :\
[21:58] <Bashing-om> ibouvousaime: IF you are on an ubuntu distro, and the .iso is 'buntu, then 'dd' will do that .
[21:58] <rww> except it'll also wipe out the drive
[21:58] <k1l> ibouvousaime: yes, it will wipe the usb pen drive.
[21:58] <ibouvousaime> I dont want to wipe it lol
[21:58] <ibouvousaime> thats why Im asking
[21:59] <ibouvousaime> because I usually use dd
[21:59] <rww> and incidentally, it's not Ubuntu to Ubuntu, it's anything with dd to any ISOhybrid image
[21:59] <k1l> ibouvousaime: just copying the iso will not work
[21:59] <rww> If this were me, I'd just use another USB stick tbqh
[21:59] <nikos> k1l: at last, IT WORKS after "sudo apt-get install libegl1-mesa-drivers",should I do the rest? "cd /etc/alternatives" then "sudo update-alternatives --set *-gnu_egl_conf /usr/lib/*/mesa-egl/ld.so.conf" and last: "sudo ldconfig"
[21:59] <bprompt> ibouvousaime:   why not wipe it again?
[21:59] <bekks> ibouvousaime: you have to wipe it.
[22:00] <k1l> if there is already a grub running on that system you could try some grub magic and boot the iso form that usb with gtub. but its not worth the effort, imho
[22:00] <akik> ibouvousaime: what do you want to do with the usb drive after copying the iso file on it?
[22:00] <k1l> nikos: then its ok already
[22:00] <ibouvousaime> cant save the contents somewhere
[22:00] <soreau> I'm running trusty and tried to install some (apparently conflicting) packages and now the package manager is broken. When I try apt-get -f install, it fails. Also trying to remove any packages fails as well. I'm googling but haven't run into this in awhile
[22:01] <k1l> soreau: pastebin the output please
[22:01] <nikos> k1l: thank you SO much!
[22:01] <akik> it's 2015 and the person only has one usb storage device. such luck!
[22:02] <bprompt> ibouvousaime:     how about the hdd?
[22:02] <rww> doesn't really help that Ubuntu is too big for 1GB flash drives now, to be fair
[22:02] <soreau> k1l:  http://hastebin.com/raw/ujudalemoy
[22:03] <akik> ibouvousaime: do you have any live/install cd? you could boot off them and copy the contents to your computer's hd
[22:03] <soreau> k1l: and if I try removing libc6-dev-amd64, it fails too http://hastebin.com/raw/qaruyuyene I can't seem to get the package manager to do anything now
[22:03] <rww> soreau: pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy libc6-dev-i386' and 'apt-cache policy libc6-dev-amd64' please
[22:04] <Volund> well Lubuntu proved to be nice for display stuff, volume controls responded but nothing played over my headphones. I'm going to try Kubuntu now and see if I can figure out which I liked most.
[22:04] <soreau> rww: hastebin.com/raw/balipurahe
[22:06] <rww> soreau: someone else had the same problem on AskUbuntu, they solved it by deleting the /var/cache/apt/archives file mentioned in the error and trying again
[22:06] <rww> not sure why/if it'd help, but yeah
[22:06] <rww> ( https://askubuntu.com/questions/611114/im-trying-to-install-programs-apt-upgrade-and-this-group-of-libs-arent-allowin )
[22:07] <rww> (they were going in the other direction, but eh)
[22:07] <akik> /var/cache/apt/archives is a directory if i remember correctly
[22:07] <rww> yes, i meant the file the error message mentions that is in there :)
[22:07] <akik> oh yea, of course
[22:09] <k1l> seems to me like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/1365375    #4 got a solution
[22:10] <soreau> rww: It didn't help.. when I try -f install, it only tries to reinstall the offending package.. despite the fact that it redownloads, nothing has changed
[22:11] <soreau> Oh I think I might have it now
[22:12] <soreau> had to -f remove <all the mixed up packages here>
[22:13] <soreau> rww: k1l: thanks
[22:13] <soreau> looks like things are back to working now
[22:14] <apix> anyone knows why i cannot stop rsyslog ? sudo /etc/init.d/rsyslog stop && sudo /etc/init.d/rsyslog status * rsyslogd is running
[22:15] <Volund> okay whoever recommended Kubuntu needs a medal. I'm rather liking this.
[22:16] <Volund> my headphones are working nicely, I didn't even need to bother configure my monitors, the file manager is swanky
[22:16] <Jordan_U> apix: Use "sudo service foo stop", don't call scripts in /etc/init.d/ directly.
[22:16] <Volund> now the question is, can I get x2go working properly. :)
[22:17] <apix> Jordan_U, its not really my call. Im using ansible and that goes through /etc/init.d
[22:17] <Volund> so a question about x2go for anyone who uses it.
[22:18] <Volund> when I connect to an x2go server am I taking over the existing desktop session and all of the running windows, or making a new session?
[22:18] <Jordan_U> apix: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[22:18] <akik> Volund: no, that doesn't happen
[22:18] <Volund> akik: which doesn't happen?
[22:18] <apix> Jordan_U, 14.04
[22:18] <akik> Volund: the taking over of some session
[22:18] <akik> Volund: on the x2go server you don't even need x11 running
[22:19] <Volund> argh
[22:19] <akik> you need the packages installed though
[22:19] <apix> Jordan_U, i suspect its related to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+bug/1292434
[22:19] <Volund> so x2go is not what I want.
[22:19] <akik> Volund: why do you say that?
[22:20] <Volund> akik: I run most of my big projects and communications from my desktop PC. for instance, copies of MUSHclient and my instant messenging. I'd like to be able to 'take over' that session when I connect remotely and just keep working as I was.
[22:20] <akik> Volund: maybe vnc is better for your use case then
[22:20] <Volund> maybe. what's the fanciest version?
[22:21] <Volund> seems Kubuntu has one built-in...
[22:21] <akik> i'm not sure what comes with ubuntu
[22:21] <akik> realvnc is a commercial version and you might get a version with 1 connection for free
[22:22] <bekks> Volund: Instead of VNC, you should try freenx.
[22:22] <Volund> remember, client has to be Windows. (unless I install Kubuntu on my laptop too.)
[22:22] <Volund> which I might.
[22:22] <akik> bekks: freenx is similar to x2go
[22:23] <bekks> Volund: For VNC, there are various clients. Just RealVNC is kind of tied to windows.
[22:23] <bekks> akik: I never used x2go so far.
[22:23] <Jordan_U> apix: That's pretty aweful (on ansible's part).
[22:23] <akik> nomachine released their technology which became freenx
[22:23] <bekks> akik: Thats not quite true :)
[22:23] <akik> no?
[22:24] <bekks> akik: no.
[22:24] <akik> i'd like to know more
[22:24] <bekks> akik: nomachine did not release their technology.
[22:24] <akik> i'm 99.95% sure they did
[22:24] <Volund> argh, kfrb isn't available from the liveusb...
[22:25] <bekks> akik: 100% they did not :)
[22:25] <akik> Prior to version 4.0, NoMachine used the GNU General Public License for the core NX technology
[22:26] <bekks> akik: Th core technology was never unfree.
[22:26] <bekks> akik: So they  did not release it.
[22:26] <Jordan_U> Volund: You mean "krfb"? You can just install it if you have an internet connection.
[22:26] <akik> what is unfree? they licensed it under the gpl
[22:26] <Doobs> Does anybody know of any tools to customize Unity more extensively than the Unity Tweak Tool?
[22:28] <akik> i.e. without nomachine's gpl licensed technology we wouldn't have neither freenx nor x2go
[22:28] <bekks> akik: GPL code is free, so they did not release it at some point, because it wasnt closed source.
[22:29] <akik> i'm not following
[22:29] <bekks> akik: They took the nx protocol code and built their own product around it.
[22:29] <akik> who took the nx protocol?
[22:32] <Volund> okay trying out x11vnc
[22:32] <Volund> and I'll try krfb yeah I spelled it wrong
[22:35] <hippy_> is it possible to mount and chroot into an llvm device?
[22:35] <Jordan_U> hippy_: llvm or LVM?
[22:35] <Jordan_U> hippy_: Assuming LVM, then yes.
[22:36] <hippy_> this is from my terminal: filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[22:36] <Volund> hrrrrm
[22:36] <Volund> using x11vnc seems to be acceptable so far.
[22:36] <Volund> this is far better than previous weirdness I had to deal with.
[22:37] <apix> Jordan_U, just in case you were interested, i was running an old ansible version. its all good now - cheers for the help
[22:37] <Volund> in fact this is almost as good as remote desktop
[22:37] <Jordan_U> apix: Good to hear. You're welcome.
[22:37] <hippy_> if so how is it different, the normal mount /dev/sda3 /mnt dsoesnt seem to work
[22:37] <hippy_> *doesnt
[22:38] <Volund> okay so I have good remote control options.
[22:38] <Volund> Kubuntu seems like a winner!
[22:38] <Volund> okay so!
[22:38] <Volund> Only one question remains.
[22:38] <coc_towlie> please help im so stuck, how do you make the menu text of lxde bigger?
[22:38] <Volund> I will be able to do the following right: route the LINE IN from my soundcard (which is detected thankfully) to my USB headphones?
[22:39] <Jordan_U> hippy_: Run "sudo vgachange -a y" and a new device should show up in /dev/mapper/ which you can then mount.
[22:39] <Volund> I have this really weird setup where I plug my PS4/Wii U into my second monitor over HDMI, run the audio from it via a headphone cable to my sound card then play it over my PC audio
[22:41] <DanielGR> hi!
[22:41] <NGC3982> Yo!
[22:43] <Volund> google answers say that should be possible if I run a program or two so cool
[22:43] <Volund> okay I'm convinced. It's time to install Kubuntu
[22:48] <Volund> grrrr, why isn't it seeing my main drive...
[22:49] <reisio> it what
[22:51] <Jordan_U> Volund: What do you mean by "not seeing"? Could you please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[22:51] <hippy_> one more thing, the apt equivalent of pacman -Ss? I see apt search, but does that run against the cache or the repos?
[22:52] <Volund> working on it - I just deleted all of my windows partitions on said drive though, maybe it'll see it now.
[22:52] <Volund> yeah here the pastebin
[22:53] <Volund> http://pastebin.com/UZ0jZpbE
[22:53] <Volund> I want to install to /dev/sda (my ssd)
[22:53] <Volund> -oh
[22:53] <Volund> I see what I have to do
[22:54]  * Volund switches to Guided - use entire disk, THEN changes options
[22:54]  * Volund facepalms. sorry, new at this
[22:55] <reisio> hippy_: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman_Rosetta
[22:55] <Volund> okay I'm installing!
[22:56] <Volund> I'm utterly crazy for switching to Linux out of nowhere but I saved my Product Key in case this goes utterly badly
[22:56] <hippy_> [sheepishly]totally missed that. thankyou
[22:57] <Volund> Let there be OPEN SOURCE
[22:57] <NGC3982> Are you new to linux?
[22:58] <Volund> you'd probably say yes, I'd say yes and no. I've been using basic Linux terminal stuff for a few years to run a few programs (MU* servers and etc) and am vaguely familiar with the layout of the OS and its concepts. But I've done nothing in-depth and have litle practical experience.
[22:59] <Volund> my deep familiarity ends with 'I've setup apache2 to run mediawiki once'
[22:59] <Volund> 'in the most basic way possible'
[23:00] <Volund> I've basically decided the only way I'm actually going to become anything close to a guru is if I -stop using Windows-
[23:00] <Volund> gotta get serious y'know - and now it's time to restart, brb
[23:03] <p3rror> when I have to ask for aws ec2 help
[23:04] <reisio> there's an aws channel somewhere, probably #aws
[23:04] <reisio> /msg alis list *aws*
[23:05] <volund> okay so
[23:05]  * Volund fixes that
[23:05] <Volund> okay so, now I'm on Kubuntu!
[23:06] <OerHeks> Volund, there is also a dedicated channel, #kubuntu
[23:06] <reisio> Volund: gj
[23:07] <NGC3982> I just played Sniper Elite V2
[23:07] <NGC3982> And noticed the game bugs out unplayable in the tutorial
[23:07]  * NGC3982 throws.
[23:08] <reisio> neat
[23:10] <Volund> it occurs to me that I have no idea how to install things except from apt-get
[23:10] <bekks> Volund: Thats how things are installed.
[23:11] <Volund> yeah. but I went to download seamonkey and I got a ,.tar.bz2 file :P
[23:11] <bekks> Volund: thats not how you install things... ;)
[23:12] <bekks> Volund: a .tar.bz2 indicates a source code archive which needs to be extracted and compiled.
[23:12] <Volund> yeah. :/
[23:12] <Volund> all this ust to get an IRC client, bah
[23:12] <reisio> going to upstream's site and downloading a file isn't how you deal with packages in Unix land
[23:12] <Volund> oh well, firefox will have to do
[23:12] <reisio> you just say "hey package manager, fetch me this!"
[23:12] <reisio> and it does
[23:12] <Volund> ahhhh.
[23:12] <blowjob> can you help
[23:12] <bekks> Volund: you dont need seamonkey for getting an IRC client.
[23:13] <Volund> I like ChatZilla but I'm irritated at having to run it in Firefox.
[23:13] <bekks> Volund: Just install oneof the gazillion IRC clients in the ubuntu repos.
[23:13] <Volund> yeah I'm trying to find a list
[23:13] <reisio> seamonkey must not have enough interest to warrant being the main repo is all
[23:13] <blowjobATM> I am not sure if I should use ubuntu or mint
[23:13] <reisio> https://www.google.com/search?btnI=&q=launchpad+seamonkey+ppa
[23:13] <NGC3982> What's wrong with Irssi :(
[23:13] <reisio> I think Konversation is the most beloved KDE IRC app
[23:13] <reisio> NGC3982: not much
[23:13] <bekks> Volund: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[23:14] <blowjobATM> I am not sure if I should use ubuntu or mint
[23:14] <reisio> blowjobATM: mint is derivative of ubuntu (which is derivative of debian)
[23:14]  * reisio finds using derivatives pointless
[23:14] <Volund> oh hey there's XChat
[23:14] <Volund> errr Hexchat
[23:14]  * Volund grabs
[23:14] <blowjobATM> reisio: use debisn?=
[23:14] <reisio> Volund: :)
[23:14] <reisio> blowjobATM: your call
[23:14] <bekks> Volund: yeah, just use hexchat :)
[23:14] <reisio> the same logic applies, IMO
[23:14] <reisio> I wouldn't use Mint, because it's really Ubuntu
[23:15] <reisio> I don't use Ubuntu, but the same logic applies :p
[23:15] <reisio> between Ubuntu and Debian :D
[23:15] <Volund> This looks far more awesome on Kubuntu than Windows
[23:15] <Volund> hooray HexChat at full power!
[23:16] <Doobs> I'm using irssi right now. Is there some better alternative?
[23:16] <OerHeks> irssi is fine, in terminal.
[23:16] <Volund> I don't knwo why it's called Google Chrome on Windows and Chromium on Linux.
[23:17] <reisio> irssi is pretty great
[23:17] <Doobs> Volund: I think Chromium is just supposed to be a stripped down version.
[23:17] <reisio> some people like weechat as an alternative to it, but I'm not sure what the draw is
[23:17] <frozenonline> I've been having issues connecting with my wireless Intel card. Intel Centrino 6300 Ultimate in ubuntu 15.04. HP 8440p
[23:17] <reisio> Chromium is all of Google Chrome without Google's intellectual property included
[23:18] <reisio> it does all the same things, except what people wouldn't want it to
[23:18] <Bashing-om> Volund: Both chromium and google-chrome are available . Chromium being google-chrome open source releae .
[23:18] <Doobs> Bashing-om: Which would you recommend?
[23:18] <Volund> ahhhh.
[23:18] <Doobs> Bashing-om: Or does it even matter?
[23:18] <OerHeks> Chromium is behind on v 44
[23:18]  * Volund just installs Chromium for now, will see how well that works
[23:18] <Volund> -- oh it's behind? bah
[23:19] <reisio> behind is incredibly subjective
[23:19] <reisio> especially since Google versions absurdly
[23:19] <Volund> :(
[23:19] <reisio> right now it might be version 45, in 3 seconds it'll be version 48
[23:19] <Volund> I won't worry about it then unless something breaks
[23:19] <reisio> they're clowns with the versioning
[23:19] <coc_towlie> how do i change the DPI on linux?
[23:19] <Bashing-om> Doobs: Can't say ( I do run google-chrome ) Google chrome is what I installed way back before chromium was available and have had no issues with it .
[23:20]  * Volund is still trying to figure out this Muon Discover, the search is kinda meh
[23:20] <coc_towlie> i am so stuck, i windows when i change DPI everything appear bigger on a small laptop screen, but what is the equivalent in linux?'
[23:20] <reisio> Volund: you can use any package manager you like
[23:20] <Doobs> Bashing-om: Yeah. I'll probs stick with Chrome for now.
[23:20] <reisio> Volund: GUI frontend to dpkg/apt, that is
[23:20] <Volund> reisio: got recommendations?
[23:21] <Volund> I'd like one with a straightforward search feature
[23:21]  * Volund installs PlayOnLinux
[23:21] <reisio> Volund: the default 'Ubuntu' one is 'software-center'
[23:21] <reisio> Volund: 'synaptic' is the classic one
[23:21] <reisio> Volund: and you can also just use a terminal
[23:21] <reisio> apt-cache search foo, apt-get install foo, etc.
[23:21] <reisio> or aptitude
[23:22] <Volund> SYNAPTIC, yes
[23:22] <Volund> thakn you that's what I wanted to use
[23:23] <Doobs> reisio: Is aptitude built off of apt-get?
[23:23] <Volund> I believe apt-get is a command OF aptitude
[23:23] <Volund> might be wrong though.
[23:23] <reisio> it's built off apt
[23:23] <Volund> ah
[23:23] <reisio> dunno if it utilizes apt-get itself
[23:23] <reisio> probably not
[23:24] <blowjobATM> i hope my woman will do my nickname tonight
[23:24] <reisio> Debian is very old, so you have lots of apps on top of other apps
[23:24] <Volund> yay synaptic is exactly what I wanted
[23:24] <reisio> dpkg > apt > apt-get/aptitude > synaptic/software center
[23:24] <reisio> Volund: yeah it usually is
[23:24] <reisio> blowjobATM: she's engaged
[23:24] <Bashing-om> Doobs: 'dpkg' see: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_debian_package_management_prerequisites .
[23:25]  * NGC3982 enjoys apt-get.
[23:25] <decherdt> I would like to so thoroughly uninstall Samba that update manager will stop pushing Samba updates
[23:25] <OerHeks> no need for that in this support channel, blowjobATM ( stupid offensive name)
[23:25] <blowjob-lipsCock> okay
[23:26] <Volund> okay got audio configured... now to get MUSHclient going
[23:26] <reisio> decherdt: look into (disabling) apt recommends
[23:26] <reisio> Volund: mushclient?
[23:26] <Volund> reisio: yes. brb, restarting first, system is nagging me
[23:26] <reisio> over what? :p
[23:28] <Volund> wow
[23:28] <Volund> fastest reboot EVER.
[23:29] <Volund> yes, MUSHclient. it's actually a windows program that I use a lot. I've found that PlayOnLinux handles it beautifully.
[23:30] <Volund> http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/mushclient.htm
[23:33] <reisio> ah mud
[23:34] <Volund> I'm not sure I understand quite how WINE works but for right now I'm going to use it so I can get my connections up again. then I'll figure out the optimal route.
[23:36] <reisio> it emulates all the aspects of win32 that a win32 app is looking for, basically
[23:37] <reisio> only not with the hardware emulation overhead use of 'emulate'
[23:37] <reisio> just the plain English word
[23:37] <curiousx> Volund: do you understand POL ?
[23:38] <Volund> curiousx: probably not
[23:39]  * Doobs is booting into Windows to play some dank Fallout
[23:39] <Volund> I do know what WINE does, I'm just not familiar with using it practically.
[23:39]  * Volund works on getting MUSHclient windows configured and layed out properly
[23:39] <francon_> hola
[23:39] <OerHeks> !wine
[23:39] <francon_> hola
[23:40] <Chuck_Norris> Volund: this guy uses POL alot, and teachs you how to use it: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBu5HY4---D2BE2Au8BNz3Q
[23:40] <francon_> todo bien
[23:40] <Chuck_Norris> !es | francon_
[23:40] <reisio> you can say 'Wine'
[23:40] <OerHeks> francon_, english only please
[23:40] <francon_> tienen facebook
[23:40] <francon_> ??
[23:41] <Chuck_Norris> francon_: https://www.facebook.com/ubuntulinux
[23:42] <francon__> hola
[23:42] <francon__> todo bien
[23:42] <francon__> ??
[23:42] <reisio> :p
[23:43] <francon__> jaajaja
[23:43] <francon__> alguien tiene facebook
[23:43] <francon__> ??
[23:44] <Kruppt> (.) (.)
[23:44] <francon__> holaaa
[23:45] <francon__> franco
[23:46] <Volund> So if I want to attempt to use Steam games that run only on Windows, I need to install the Windows Steam in POL?
[23:46] <Volund> or what?
[23:46] <francon__> no entiendo
[23:46] <francon__> ajajajajaja
[23:48] <reisio> Volund: PlayOnLinux is just little preconfigured shortcuts for Wine
[23:48] <Chuck_Norris> Volund: you could do that if you cannot install it with wine or POL
[23:54] <decherdt> reisio: stopping all recommends would be too much, blacklisting Samba from apt would be OK, I still should be able to unistall it so that updates are not an issue
[23:54] <decherdt> apt does not offer to update other programs that are not installed, like Apache
[23:54] <reisio> recommends are pretty absurd, IMO
[23:55] <reisio> you should almost just install all software there is if you leave them on
[23:55] <Volund> hrm. Pidgin doesn't have any default sounds it seems...
[23:55] <Aqui1a> Hey guys... Having a bit of trouble setting up Dropbox on my fresh install of Ubuntu. I'm trying to assign the Dropbox folder to my second hard drive, but in the 'Find Directory' windows, only the drive Ubuntu is installed to is listed. How do I put it on my other drive?
[23:55] <Volund> I like the interface though.
[23:57] <Volund> is there a handy equivalent to this for Linux?
[23:57] <Volund> http://puush.me/
[23:59] <Chuck_Norris> Volund: https://github.com/sunmockyang/puush-linux